Who knew so fast we will get faced with new progression content. It goes to show you atleast the company listens. I have never complained because its far too eary for that. But I did know the game needed some sort of I did this feeling thats not cosmetic. And here we are 3 days from it.
Are you ready for it? Did you grind enough money? Are you full exotic or just gonna say F it and head into the dungeon? I did a little break down and mentality to have for it in the link above. But as always i like a good convo here.
This isn’t new content. This is the rest of the game you already payed for. How do you guys not know this…
Just look at the company history. Five years dark, then three games in under 18 months, one that was scrapped and turned into an expansion… six more years dark, and you thought GW2 was released as a finished product with it’s whopping 25 zones?
I’m starting to think you post only to get a kick out of reading your own insane ranting.
Yeah, lets do the same dungeons forever. Meanwhile you lose just as many players due to pure boredom to other games. You may not like this, but they have your money, so -shrug-
noone is forceing you to do the dungeon. wvw can get the gear also. and really can anyone honestly tell me they would play the game for years with all the current items being it? A few maybe but the rest i doubt it. I wouldve played for awhile and got bored seeing as currently after ur exotic set theres map complete and farming orr to get a legendary, how is that different from running the same dungeon over and over again?
noone is forceing you to do the dungeon. wvw can get the gear also. and really can anyone honestly tell me they would play the game for years with all the current items being it? A few maybe but the rest i doubt it. I wouldve played for awhile and got bored seeing as currently after ur exotic set theres map complete and farming orr to get a legendary, how is that different from running the same dungeon over and over again?
I can honestly tell you I would play the game for years with just the current tier of items. I did that for years with Guild Wars 1. I don’t know how many played GW1, but I’m pretty sure that’s more than a few.
Farming Orr to get a legendary is different, that was an optional cosmetic grind. We’re talking about stats changes now. This is a whole different league.
Wouldn’t it be comical if Ascended item armor pieces don’t have rune slots so the stats are out classed by exotic with runes. Would make sense no?
Infusion slots in every piece.
I came to the same conclusion. Now i’m just watching how far the doom and gloom train can go. Best part is it was one ring to rule them all.
@silentstorm I’ll be ready for what ever challenge Anet throws at me. Since i have some faith in them.
Wouldn’t it be comical if Ascended item armor pieces don’t have rune slots so the stats are out classed by exotic with runes. Would make sense no?
Infusion slots in every piece.
I came to the same conclusion. Now i’m just watching how far the doom and gloom train can go. Best part is it was one ring to rule them all.
Then why would they even have Ascended items in the first place? To bridge the gap between rares and exotics I suppose.
Here’s how i see it, might not be true, might not be perfect, but it’s a better guess than jumping on the bandwagon.
If there are no rune slots in the ascended gear and if the ascended gear had the same exact stats as exotics then the new gear would be inferior because of the lack of runes and sigils. So the stats appear higher to make up for the loss of runes.
Also it is probably a lot easier to create maybe 32 or 48 armor pieces then go through every single dungeon, wvw, karma, and crafted piece to change them all. Plus creates new gear which is 2 birds with a funny shaped stone.
Edit: but lets wait and see what happens for now, i’m getting pumped up and getting ready for this content.
Wouldn’t it be comical if Ascended item armor pieces don’t have rune slots so the stats are out classed by exotic with runes. Would make sense no?
Infusion slots in every piece.
They don’t have rune slots. Look at the ring. The slot that normally would contain a gem? Those stats are included in the item’s base stats. There is also a slot of an Infusion.
It wouldn’t be comical if that were the case, it would be good. It’s not gonna be like that, though. Get ready to salvage all your exotics, kids, the treadmill is starting up.
Am I ready for it? Yea, I came to terms with what’s going to happen, and what I’m going to do during the event is stand in LA and /cry like there’s no tomorrow, which funnily enough holds some metaphorical truth for me and my time with this franchise.
Am I ready for it? Yea, I came to terms with what’s going to happen, and what I’m going to do during the event is stand in LA and /cry like there’s no tomorrow, which funnily enough holds some metaphorical truth for me and my time with this franchise.
Now there’s an idea. I may do that as well.
“Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games.”
-Mike Obrien, President of Arenanet
Wouldn’t it be comical if Ascended item armor pieces don’t have rune slots so the stats are out classed by exotic with runes. Would make sense no?
Infusion slots in every piece.
They don’t have rune slots. Look at the ring. The slot that normally would contain a gem? Those stats are included in the item’s base stats. There is also a slot of an Infusion.
It wouldn’t be comical if that were the case, it would be good. It’s not gonna be like that, though. Get ready to salvage all your exotics, kids, the treadmill is starting up.
Kid? Getting personal, really mate? really? lol. Sorry, but I’m rich enough in game and wouldn’t mind the challenge, enjoy going elsewhere because you don’t like change in an MMO. <3
Uhh… I don’t think the “kids” was directed to you. It’s for players who now have to change their entire take on the game, their entire set of gear because of a turnaround in game principles.
Well I’m part of those kids, so uhh, yeah I find that personal. But as I said, I’m more then happy to spend the lots of gold I have. Bring it ^^;
Well, sudden boast of wealth, that killed the discussion. I’m happy for your riches.
Lovely, because it wasn’t going anywhere anyway, thanks for the mediating though, no english good much. <3
Wouldn’t it be comical if Ascended item armor pieces don’t have rune slots so the stats are out classed by exotic with runes. Would make sense no?
Infusion slots in every piece.
They don’t have rune slots. Look at the ring. The slot that normally would contain a gem? Those stats are included in the item’s base stats. There is also a slot of an Infusion.
It wouldn’t be comical if that were the case, it would be good. It’s not gonna be like that, though. Get ready to salvage all your exotics, kids, the treadmill is starting up.
Kid? Getting personal, really mate? really? lol. Sorry, but I’m rich enough in game and wouldn’t mind the challenge, enjoy going elsewhere because you don’t like change in an MMO. <3
I wasn’t getting personal at all, but now I will. Your reading comprehension is quite sub-par.
I would have loved a change in an MMO, unfortunately that was GW2 prior to this anouncement. THAT WAS the change. Now? This? This is not a change. This is just something unique and different getting gussied up and turning itself into every other single MMO on the market (none of which are doing phenomenal, except for WoW, which isn’t growing but shrinking and has been in the NA/EU market for quite some time).
If I wanted to play this sort of game, I would already be playing this sort of game. I didn’t want to and so I was not. I DID want to play a game that wouldn’t tell me that I can do anything but the only meaningful thing to do is run the newest dungeons for the newest gear, forever, eternally — and I had that game for 3 months, but I guess it’s now gone and there’s no MMO on the market (gw1 and daoc aside; they aren’t dead yet) that is NOT a gear treadmill, mudflation, stinkfest of things I do not enjoy doing.
Whatever. There’s other games for me to play that actually understand that playing the game itself is what should be fun, and that if you need to dangle carrots — it’s not fun.
Look around at the environment that SilentStorm is running around in. That’s just a small sample of the enormous GW2 world, and people want to give it up because of Ascended armor? You were spot on SilentStorm, when you said that people complain when there’s “not enough to do” in end game but then complain when there’s additional content.
Please everyone, just give this a shot. Relax and play, and don’t worry about where you’re at because you’ll get the ascended armor soon enough.
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when you said that people complain when there’s “not enough to do” in end game but then complain when there’s additional content..
I’ve got a max level character with exotics in every slot save backpack, last count I had 175 dyes unlocked but that was a month ago, I’ve got enough gold I grabbed a scythe staff skin, and have numerous superior siege in bank and many many more that have been crunched in WvW.
If you really think you play any game where you won’t go vertical you won’t play many games my friend.
Can you please point me to the verticle progression in Street Fighter? I’ve been playing for years and I have never once seen a bonus to my stats no matter how many victories.
Games don’t near verticle stat progression. It needs content that holds attention.
LOL@raid dungeons I think they should do something not sure it should be raid dungeons. I mean who said they haved to follow convention. Why not be original and come up with a entirely new way of raiding. I can think of 10 ways to make up new raiding. I’m sure whoever on the content team with all they’re experience can make some magic happen.
Creating fun for some while ruining it for others. Interesting strategy there, Arenanet.
Are you currently having fun ingame? Because as far as I have seen not a single thing that is ingame now is going away. So just keep doing what your doing and ignore the new stuff its that simple.
I really dont get all the negative at all. Trust me I understand not liking the gear treadmill, but no one is forcing you to do it either. Just continue to do exactly what you were doing 2 weeks ago for the next 2 or so years it will all still be there.
Creating fun for some while ruining it for others. Interesting strategy there, Arenanet.
Are you currently having fun ingame? Because as far as I have seen not a single thing that is ingame now is going away. So just keep doing what your doing and ignore the new stuff its that simple.
I really dont get all the negative at all. Trust me I understand not liking the gear treadmill, but no one is forcing you to do it either. Just continue to do exactly what you were doing 2 weeks ago for the next 2 or so years it will all still be there.
With this update, I will get demoted from top geared to second class. That is not my idea of fun. No sir.
“Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games.”
-Mike Obrien, President of Arenanet
Creating fun for some while ruining it for others. Interesting strategy there, Arenanet.
Are you currently having fun ingame? Because as far as I have seen not a single thing that is ingame now is going away. So just keep doing what your doing and ignore the new stuff its that simple.
I really dont get all the negative at all. Trust me I understand not liking the gear treadmill, but no one is forcing you to do it either. Just continue to do exactly what you were doing 2 weeks ago for the next 2 or so years it will all still be there.
you could do that in wow, too, you know.
you’d just have the same problems you will have here. if you don’t follow their progression, you don’t have access to all content. you are not on par with all other max level characters. you do what THEY want, or you fall behind.
falling behind was never supposed to happen here. you proceed to exotics and then you are done — you move forward, and the finish line doesn’t ever move, the race never gets any longer.
I’m giving the whole gear thing the benefit of the doubt for now. It won’t affect me enjoying this event this weekend though. In the future may it affect me? maybe (I’m full exotic in a couple of sets, and do dungeons and plan on getting as far in this dungeon as I can – I’ll hit a wall eventually maybe). But I’m just going to hope this is the only time they do this, and maybe it won’t be so bad.
The event in itself and the dungeon sounds interesting though.
I look forward to playing with some friends I invited in for this weekend though. They have been asking for it. Sadly I can’t say its all rainbows and sunshine in the whole “gear doesn’t progress further then x” anymore, but I’ll be glad to play with friends.
Edit: Wow, I feel like I need to go with the pitchfork crowd here. But my discontent has died down and its too much effort to be angry at a game I still enjoy playing atm. >.<
Yeah, lets do the same dungeons forever. Meanwhile you lose just as many players due to pure boredom to other games. You may not like this, but they have your money, so -shrug-
Creating fun for some while ruining it for others. Interesting strategy there, Arenanet.
Are you currently having fun ingame? Because as far as I have seen not a single thing that is ingame now is going away. So just keep doing what your doing and ignore the new stuff its that simple.
I really dont get all the negative at all. Trust me I understand not liking the gear treadmill, but no one is forcing you to do it either. Just continue to do exactly what you were doing 2 weeks ago for the next 2 or so years it will all still be there.
With this update, I will get demoted from top geared to second class. That is not my idea of fun. No sir.
Bro that happens in every game no matter what. You have to regain your dominance thats par for the course.
Creating fun for some while ruining it for others. Interesting strategy there, Arenanet.
Are you currently having fun ingame? Because as far as I have seen not a single thing that is ingame now is going away. So just keep doing what your doing and ignore the new stuff its that simple.
I really dont get all the negative at all. Trust me I understand not liking the gear treadmill, but no one is forcing you to do it either. Just continue to do exactly what you were doing 2 weeks ago for the next 2 or so years it will all still be there.
With this update, I will get demoted from top geared to second class. That is not my idea of fun. No sir.
Bro that happens in every game no matter what. You have to regain your dominance thats par for the course.
I’ve played plenty of games like that and will again in the future. But I bought this one only because it promised to be different. So this is a deal breaker for me, not even going to debate it.
“Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games.”
-Mike Obrien, President of Arenanet
One of the reasons people play such games (and in general) is so that they can strive to achieve set goals/tasks – which ends with a feeling of fullfilment and joy. Whether be it reaching lv80, getting best armor stats/looks or completing all of the achievement challenges.
At some point, however, a person(s) may feel that the conent is running dry. IMO the introduction of ‘ascended’ quality items just adds a fresh perspective to this game.
I really would like to hear someone give legitimate reason(s) on ‘How can this have a negative impact on the persons gameplay experience?’
One of the reasons people play such games (and in general) is so that they can strive to achieve set goals/tasks – which ends with a feeling of fullfilment and joy. Whether be it reaching lv80, getting best armor stats/looks or completing all of the achievement challenges.
At some point, however, a person(s) may feel that the conent is running dry. IMO the introduction of ‘ascended’ quality items just adds a fresh perspective to this game.
I really would like to hear someone give legitimate reason(s) on ‘How can this have a negative impact on the persons gameplay experience?’
I’m just curious…
Why do you ask for “legitimate” reasons, rather than personal ones? Is a legitimate reason only one that you agree with?
“Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games.”
-Mike Obrien, President of Arenanet
Guys this update is going to be epic. Get ready for it and enjoy it, because let’s be honest – there’s not much else to do in Orr right about now hahahaha
Bring on the Fractal of the Mists dungeon I’m pumped up for it!
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The game promised to be different but nowhere in all of that. Did they say they were getting rid of the base function of mmorpg. They said questing they said pvp even social. But nowhere did they promise that the game wouldn’t have pve progression. I don’t see what the whining is for. You progressed through gear since the very first mob you killed. I would never want to play a game where I stagnate on gear just pallete swapping it every month. That is basically what your asking for when you complain on progression content.
One of the reasons people play such games (and in general) is so that they can strive to achieve set goals/tasks – which ends with a feeling of fullfilment and joy. Whether be it reaching lv80, getting best armor stats/looks or completing all of the achievement challenges.
At some point, however, a person(s) may feel that the conent is running dry. IMO the introduction of ‘ascended’ quality items just adds a fresh perspective to this game.
I really would like to hear someone give legitimate reason(s) on ‘How can this have a negative impact on the persons gameplay experience?’
I’m just curious…
You’ll never consider any answer you hear to be “legitimate”, because you disagree with them.
I would never want to play a game where I stagnate on gear just pallete swapping it every month.
Funny, that’s how GW1 operates, and that’s what we were told GW2 would be like. Why did you buy this game again? It wasn’t hidden. They didn’t wait 3 months to spring that design decision on you, like they’ve done with this. They were upfront and vocal about capping stats and a gear plateau at endgame — protip: plateaus are flat, they don’t continue to rise — and now?
Huh. Now we’ve been lied to, and you’re gloating because you bought a game you knew nothing about, walked in, told everyone who had been supporting the game previously based on what it was that they’re idiots and the whole thing should conform to you instead and be nothing like what was promised and rather be everything like every other MMO on the market.
Huh. Now we’ve been lied to, and you’re gloating because you bought a game you knew nothing about, walked in, told everyone who had been supporting the game previously based on what it was that they’re idiots and the whole thing should conform to you instead and be nothing like what was promised and rather be everything like every other MMO on the market.
Take your conformity elsewhere, square.
Well i read something on the gw2 guru website and if you have a digital copy of the game then you can get a complete refund.
Calm down guys no need to get personal about it. Fact is this isn’t GW1 things need to evolve. The essence of mmorpg is rpg and that base format is to evolve. Also they said keeping stats the same in PVP that doesnt relate to PVE. Quite frankly get over this isn’t the day and age to bore your population.
What was the main knock on the game up to know? The general population in the game was bored. You can google search it right now go on try it. They are addressing that and I applaud them for trying to listen and get better. Don’t chastise a company for trying to do right. You know what happens when you do that? You get pandas on flying mounts. Dont repeat that same mistake because you want to be lazy and not progress.
Why do people cry about gear progression? It’s not like exotics are hard to get… They are only releasing a few pieces of ascended at a time. Enjoy the challenge. The gear isn’t 10 levels higher or anything. Plus the only thing after ascended Armor would be legendary.. Who the kitten would complain about THAT.
Why do people cry about gear progression? It’s not like exotics are hard to get… They are only releasing a few pieces of ascended at a time. Enjoy the challenge. The gear isn’t 10 levels higher or anything. Plus the only thing after ascended Armor would be legendary.. Who the kitten would complain about THAT.
So at this point you’re right. The problem with a gear treadmill is that it never stops. Based on how this. But when they release the next content patch after this one there could be another class off gear added and they will proudly say: “We’re releasing a new armor class to bridge the gap between ascended and legendary armor.” Next thing you know there will be a new armor class released with every major content patch and we’ll have 10+ different armor classes between exotic and legendary.
What gear grind do you see coming?
This month trinkets, next month armor, then weapons. That’s 3 months for you to get that gear if you really want it…
Took me few weeks to get best gear on my main and that includes leveling to 80. At the moment I have 2 chars lvl 80 and both have 3 sets of best gear there is in game. All my weapons have skins I want.
Time spent grinding = 0!
Only thing I have to grind for is Legendary and I’m half way to precursor.
So you see I have all skins I like on end game gear with exception of Legendary and achievements I have nothing to do in this game. So this new stuff coming is what will get half of my guild back to game and give them stuff to do. Yes I’m glad Anet saw it and got the content ready before most ppl I like to play with forgot about this game.
The real QQ in this is people thought they could just be strong all the time in this game and do nothing. Now you have to start working again they are complaining. The company never said they were giving out free rides people only ASSUMED they were. And hell you don’t even HAVED to do it to remain relavant.
As far as the treadmill thing again just get over that. You gotta have progression if you don’t have any this game will die in 6 months. Because by then everyone will have earned legendaries or givin up. I’m lazily going after legendaries and almost done on 2 characters. Then what I stand in Lion’s Arche and look shiny? Guys you gotta be more realistic then that and less lazy.
If you want easy non working for it loot play a ps3/xbox game. Where you know at the end of the game its the end of the game. This is a MMORPG it doesn’t end so neither will the progression. Only time one does end is when it’s cancelled.
