Guild Wars 2

Now that we’re coming down to the final few months of this Living Story (season 1), allow me to submit my idea on how things turn out.

Scarlet is bad, we can all agree to that. But what caused her to turn from a knowledge seeking being, to a pirate leading villain? Behind every story, there needs to be a purpose. It goes beyond the typical “good guy saves the world” and “bad guy wants to rule the world”. Why is Scarlet doing what she’s doing? Anet has dropped hints along the way that there’s more to her story than we currently know.

The idea that Scarlet went mad when she saw something in the Dream, or somehow touched the fabric of the Eternal Alchemy, doesn’t fly. Anet writers are more devious than that. I feel she’s attacking the world because… she wants to save it! /gasp

The Elder Dragons are the main enemy of the GW2 world. But maybe, just maybe Scarlet’s visions showed that the Elder Dragons are necessary? Lore has it that the dragons wake up to bring balance to the force world, then go back to sleep. If we kill them all, will that unleash a torrent of uncontrolled magic? If that happens, would that empower Abaddon to break free from his prison (again)? Going with this idea, Scarlet might just want to protect Tyria from a potential future.

/ending wall of text

So basically, I could see her turning into an ally at the end of this arc. The story could unfold and enlighten players to her true motives. At that point, instead of killing her off, we would befriend her, and form a new alliance to fight not the dragons, but the real villain: Ellen Kiel.

Many players me included want to see her DEAD

The ‘evil guys become permanent allies’ bit only works if they’ve done things that the hero can forgive. The amount of damage caused by Scarlet is too great for that to be believable. Unless she was controlled by outside forces, I’d not see that happen in any believable way.

Latinkuro.9420:

Many players me included want to see her DEAD

She can’t die, as she’s Trahearne 2.0! I can only hope that she ends up as an ally, and an integral part of future Living Stories.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Latinkuro.9420:

Many players me included want to see her DEAD

She can’t die, as she’s Trahearne 2.0! I can only hope that she ends up as an ally, and an integral part of future Living Stories.

oh DUDE I so hope you’re mistaken.

Dunno. I’d like to chop her head off. Then she can be my dead ally

ThiBash.5634:

The ‘evil guys become permanent allies’ bit only works if they’ve done things that the hero can forgive. The amount of damage caused by Scarlet is too great for that to be believable. Unless she was controlled by outside forces, I’d not see that happen in any believable way.

Pretty much this. If she became a permanent ally, I’d be sorely disappointed not only because I couldn’t enjoy killing her, but also because it’d make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Scarlet is bad, we can all agree to that. But what caused her to turn from a knowledge seeking being, to a pirate leading villain?

But what we see of Ceara’s knowledge seeking, she always was dismissive of people, and tended to use people to further her studies rather than care about them. The change to “Scarlet Briar” just amplified all that from “quirky genius with no respect for authority” to “maniac who doesn’t care who she hurts in her efforts”.

She’s the same character at the root (heh) as she was before, just slightly twisted.

So basically, I could see her turning into an ally at the end of this arc. The story could unfold and enlighten players to her true motives. At that point, instead of killing her off, we would befriend her, and form a new alliance to fight not the dragons, but the real villain: Ellen Kiel.

See I knew this was going to get political at the end. Typical Gnashblade supporters . . . let’s just knock him out and take his keys. And then we can put an end to the evils of the Black Lion Trading Company gem exchange, share the wealth for all of Tyria, break open the vaults and let the precursors out.

(Oh stop complaining about the unicorns, someone had to get the Dreamer.)

After that’s finished, and the stalwart champions of Tyria are no longer denied the best possible gear they need to face the threats of the Dragons and their minions. After we reduce Jormag to snowcones, make sashimi out of Bubbles, and tie down Primordius and use him to light the biggest barbecue Tyria has ever seen . . .

After we shatter Kralkatorrik and use his crystals for a chandelier over a monument to Glint and Snaff.

Then Evon has my permission to die, and be literally dead broke.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Scarlet is bad, we can all agree to that. But what caused her to turn from a knowledge seeking being, to a pirate leading villain?

But what we see of Ceara’s knowledge seeking, she always was dismissive of people, and tended to use people to further her studies rather than care about them. The change to “Scarlet Briar” just amplified all that from “quirky genius with no respect for authority” to “maniac who doesn’t care who she hurts in her efforts”.

She’s the same character at the root (heh) as she was before, just slightly twisted.

So basically, I could see her turning into an ally at the end of this arc. The story could unfold and enlighten players to her true motives. At that point, instead of killing her off, we would befriend her, and form a new alliance to fight not the dragons, but the real villain: Ellen Kiel.

See I knew this was going to get political at the end. Typical Gnashblade supporters . . . let’s just knock him out and take his keys. And then we can put an end to the evils of the Black Lion Trading Company gem exchange, share the wealth for all of Tyria, break open the vaults and let the precursors out.

(Oh stop complaining about the unicorns, someone had to get the Dreamer.)

After that’s finished, and the stalwart champions of Tyria are no longer denied the best possible gear they need to face the threats of the Dragons and their minions. After we reduce Jormag to snowcones, make sashimi out of Bubbles, and tie down Primordius and use him to light the biggest barbecue Tyria has ever seen . . .

After we shatter Kralkatorrik and use his crystals for a chandelier over a monument to Glint and Snaff.

Then Evon has my permission to die, and be literally dead broke.

That´s the best post regarding this update what so ever!

Abaddon is dead. He is not imprisoned.

I like the idea of Scarlet being the Sylvari representative to the New Destiny’s Edge, but I don’t think that’s where her story is heading. Just going off what the Pale Tree has said about Scarlet, it seems to me that the only possible conclusion is her death.

simple answer, no
she kills people, on a large scale to the extent at which 1) she could never be trusted 2) nor could she be controlled

the only possible way she could be utilized as a story element in future installments would be for her to Literally be chained down 24/7 ultimately serving as cliche {moderately helpful/entertaining} passive aggressive villainous commentary

oh, wait.. we’re watching dragonball z? and it’s vegeta oops i mean scarlet, who will later be reluctantly joining our forces to defeat frieza oops i mean jormag…
solved, you’re welcome tyrians

I still like the idea that all the forces she’s been combining are really her version of the Pact and that her giant marionette is a weapon to fight the dragons.

All of this is a build up to wipe out the dragons so that the natural cycle of the world can be destroyed.

I’m just trying to put myself in the writers’ shoes, where it would be mind boggling to have a twist like this. I can imagine the forums will rage over being thrown a villain, only to have her become an ally. But good storytelling is where one cannot predict the outcome. Scarlet’s death, at this point, is so predictable that it would be fun to see how they could pull off the old “bad guy turns good” arc.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

I’m just trying to put myself in the writers’ shoes, where it would be mind boggling to have a twist like this. I can imagine the forums will rage over being thrown a villain, only to have her become an ally. But good storytelling is where one cannot predict the outcome. Scarlet’s death, at this point, is so predictable that it would be fun to see how they could pull off the old “bad guy turns good” arc.

Good storytelling is where one can predict the outcome, but didn’t focus on what there was in the story to see it coming. See: “Chekov’s Gun”; you are shown the gun in act one, and it is not mentioned or seen again until it is used in act three.

Bad storytelling is where you can’t predict the outcome because it turns out the dog was behind it the whole time, so it could pave the way for its alien overlords. And nowhere in the story was this ever a possibility.

Naturally, these aren’t the only forms of “good” or “bad”, and Chekov’s Gun can be done poorly enough to warrant facepalming or even an application of head to wall at high velocity.

The player base mostly hates Scarlet. However, the writing staff loves her. Guess who wins? (spoilers: not the player base)

Becka Williams.4978:

The player base mostly hates Scarlet. However, the writing staff loves her. Guess who wins? (spoilers: not the player base)

No, the players win all right.

. . . they get to kill her. And her asura collaborators.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

…So basically, I could see her turning into an ally at the end of this arc. The story could unfold and enlighten players to her true motives. At that point, instead of killing her off, we would befriend her, and form a new alliance to fight not the dragons, but the real villain: Ellen Kiel.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

I’m just trying to put myself in the writers’ shoes, where it would be mind boggling to have a twist like this. I can imagine the forums will rage over being thrown a villain, only to have her become an ally. But good storytelling is where one cannot predict the outcome. Scarlet’s death, at this point, is so predictable that it would be fun to see how they could pull off the old “bad guy turns good” arc.

Good storytelling is where one can predict the outcome, but didn’t focus on what there was in the story to see it coming. See: “Chekov’s Gun”; you are shown the gun in act one, and it is not mentioned or seen again until it is used in act three.

Bad storytelling is where you can’t predict the outcome because it turns out the dog was behind it the whole time, so it could pave the way for its alien overlords. And nowhere in the story was this ever a possibility.

Naturally, these aren’t the only forms of “good” or “bad”, and Chekov’s Gun can be done poorly enough to warrant facepalming or even an application of head to wall at high velocity.

If one could predict the outcome of the story (maybe I should have said a story with a mystery), then what’s the point of following? Look at Star Wars. When I was younger, I would have never guessed Darth Vader would sacrifice himself to save his son. He was the embodiment of pure evil, yet I found a new respect for him at the end.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

I’m just trying to put myself in the writers’ shoes, where it would be mind boggling to have a twist like this. I can imagine the forums will rage over being thrown a villain, only to have her become an ally. But good storytelling is where one cannot predict the outcome. Scarlet’s death, at this point, is so predictable that it would be fun to see how they could pull off the old “bad guy turns good” arc.

Good storytelling is where one can predict the outcome, but didn’t focus on what there was in the story to see it coming. See: “Chekov’s Gun”; you are shown the gun in act one, and it is not mentioned or seen again until it is used in act three.

Bad storytelling is where you can’t predict the outcome because it turns out the dog was behind it the whole time, so it could pave the way for its alien overlords. And nowhere in the story was this ever a possibility.

Naturally, these aren’t the only forms of “good” or “bad”, and Chekov’s Gun can be done poorly enough to warrant facepalming or even an application of head to wall at high velocity.

If one could predict the outcome of the story (maybe I should have said a story with a mystery), then what’s the point of following? Look at Star Wars. When I was younger, I would have never guessed Darth Vader would sacrifice himself to save his son. He was the embodiment of pure evil, yet I found a new respect for him at the end.

And these days I would never have guessed Darth Vader was a whiny prima donna either. Though it does explain his haste to start choking people when he didn’t get his way . . .

Anyway. I can predict the outcome of Game of Thrones / A Song of Ice And Fire . . . “everyone dies”. What’s the point in following it? Because somewhere there’s something you’re interested enough in to see what happens to it. Several people I know decided they were done after a certain event I shall not name, because as they asked – “what’s the point in watching any more?”.

I also watch Doctor Who. Another series where one event happened and “well why should I watch this after this?” was said. No spoilers here, it was in response to David Tenant leaving.

The response to both those questions is simple: “Why were you watching at all?” The point to storytelling is threefold: to entertain, to inspire, or to educate. Entertaining is easy, just look at Michael Bay. Education is easier, you’re just showing people what happened in the past or illustrating something to enrich your audience.

Inspiration is the thing which can’t necessarily be done on purpose, but in this case?

If nothing else stick with the Living World to be inspired to do better yourself.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

The response to both those questions is simple: “Why were you watching at all?” The point to storytelling is threefold: to entertain, to inspire, or to educate. Entertaining is easy, just look at Michael Bay. Education is easier, you’re just showing people what happened in the past or illustrating something to enrich your audience.

Inspiration is the thing which can’t necessarily be done on purpose, but in this case?

If nothing else stick with the Living World to be inspired to do better yourself.

I’m confused; what’re you saying? Be inspired to stick with the living story to do what better?

To be a better writer? Fair enough. The Living Story so far is a pretty good demonstration of bad characterization. That seems like it’d fall more under ‘education’.

We should kill all the Sylvari and Asura, to make sure this never happens again.

Sarrs.4831:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

The response to both those questions is simple: “Why were you watching at all?” The point to storytelling is threefold: to entertain, to inspire, or to educate. Entertaining is easy, just look at Michael Bay. Education is easier, you’re just showing people what happened in the past or illustrating something to enrich your audience.

Inspiration is the thing which can’t necessarily be done on purpose, but in this case?

If nothing else stick with the Living World to be inspired to do better yourself.

I’m confused; what’re you saying? Be inspired to stick with the living story to do what better?

To be a better writer? Fair enough. The Living Story so far is a pretty good demonstration of bad characterization. That seems like it’d fall more under ‘education’.

It’s a comment largely made out of frustration.

I see comments along the lines of “anyone could do better than this tripe”, but the thing is . . . I don’t see anyone actually trying. It’s uncommon anymore do I see people doing anything other than just say “Living Story sucks” like it’s a statement of fact which doesn’t need an explanation.

Nowadays, it’s not even a sarcastic “let’s see you do better”, it’s a plea to show me there are people who can do better story work than this with a MMO. And not “were” but “are”. Maybe if there’s some competition for good story content, the publishers will start caring about it as a component.

cheshirefox.7026:

simple answer, no
she kills people, on a large scale to the extent at which 1) she could never be trusted 2) nor could she be controlled

the only possible way she could be utilized as a story element in future installments would be for her to Literally be chained down 24/7 ultimately serving as cliche {moderately helpful/entertaining} passive aggressive villainous commentary

oh, wait.. we’re watching dragonball z? and it’s vegeta oops i mean scarlet, who will later be reluctantly joining our forces to defeat frieza oops i mean jormag…
solved, you’re welcome tyrians

This ‘Scarlet’ cannot even Hope to comprehend the True Power of The Prince of all Saiyans!!!

Personally, I’ve enjoyed the Living Story. But that’s a matter of preference. What I was trying to get at is that an unexpected twist can be a good thing.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Personally, I’ve enjoyed the Living Story. But that’s a matter of preference. What I was trying to get at is that an unexpected twist can be a good thing.

Oh, yes, it can be. But some particular twist ideas . . . are not always a good thing.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

It’s a comment largely made out of frustration.

I see comments along the lines of “anyone could do better than this tripe”, but the thing is . . . I don’t see anyone actually trying. It’s uncommon anymore do I see people doing anything other than just say “Living Story sucks” like it’s a statement of fact which doesn’t need an explanation.

Nowadays, it’s not even a sarcastic “let’s see you do better”, it’s a plea to show me there are people who can do better story work than this with a MMO. And not “were” but “are”. Maybe if there’s some competition for good story content, the publishers will start caring about it as a component.

Two main things here;
1. You make it seem like the problem is fundamentally rooted in the game being an MMO. That is not the case. When you break down the problems in the writing, they’re far from anything that’s a cause of the medium. The same problems would exist if the story were a book or a movie.
2. SWTOR. For all its failings, story isn’t one of them.

Sarrs.4831:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

It’s a comment largely made out of frustration.

I see comments along the lines of “anyone could do better than this tripe”, but the thing is . . . I don’t see anyone actually trying. It’s uncommon anymore do I see people doing anything other than just say “Living Story sucks” like it’s a statement of fact which doesn’t need an explanation.

Nowadays, it’s not even a sarcastic “let’s see you do better”, it’s a plea to show me there are people who can do better story work than this with a MMO. And not “were” but “are”. Maybe if there’s some competition for good story content, the publishers will start caring about it as a component.

Two main things here;
1. You make it seem like the problem is fundamentally rooted in the game being an MMO. That is not the case. When you break down the problems in the writing, they’re far from anything that’s a cause of the medium. The same problems would exist if the story were a book or a movie.
2. SWTOR. For all its failings, story isn’t one of them.

I doubt the same problems would exist if the story were a book or movie – you can spend longer on a book or movie than they have on the Living Story to date.

But you’re correct in one aspect. The problems are not because this is an MMO. The problems are in how it was delivered and how we only got pieces at a time. Frankly, it suffers the same problem as Season One of . . . say, Fringe or Lost, in where there is some idea by the writers what’s going on but only a fraction of it is shown right away.

Or heck, if people are going to compare it to a Saturday Morning Cartoons? Consider Gargoyles . . . especially that second season, or Teen Titans. And if you’re really feeling charitable and stretch the definition of “morning”, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, where you either nod and smile as the plot sails by or you lie and say “I know exactly where this is going, and who the Laughing Man is”. (And it was still good by my estimation – just don’t expect the show to stop and explain things for you.)

Peace with scarlet? Yes, we will have peace. When she answers to the charges of murder, and for attempted assassination. When she hangs from her own puppet, for the sport of her own crows, then we will have peace.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Scarlet is bad, we can all agree to that. But what caused her to turn from a knowledge seeking being, to a pirate leading villain?

Bad storywriting.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Behind every story, there needs to be a purpose. It goes beyond the typical “good guy saves the world” and “bad guy wants to rule the world”. Why is Scarlet doing what she’s doing?

Again, bad storywriting. Or, alternatively, at this point it can be also “who cares?”.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The idea that Scarlet went mad when she saw something in the Dream, or somehow touched the fabric of the Eternal Alchemy, doesn’t fly. Anet writers are more devious than that.

The poor story quality up to this point seems to disagree with you

Smooth Penguin.5294:

So basically, I could see her turning into an ally at the end of this arc. The story could unfold and enlighten players to her true motives. At that point

we’d still kill her for her willingness to massacre completely random, innocent people (remember the bombs placed in the evacuation zones at her first appearance in Divinity’s Reach?) “for the greater good”. And most of the deaths she caused cannot even be explained with that. She seems completely okay with killing and/or torturing random bystanders for no reason at all.

Compared to that Mursaat and the White Mantle were shining beacons of pure goodness.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

But good storytelling is where one cannot predict the outcome.

No. Good storytelling is where we’re satisfied with the path to the outcome. Well-written story with a predictable ending that everyone is okay with is preferable to a surprise at the end that’d make readers disappointed. And quite often it’s not the ending that is important, but the path to that ending.

Take, for example Fate/Zero. As it was a prequel, we have already known how it would end – and yet the author has managed to write it in a way that made the journey really satisfying. In fact, he used the fact we knew the ending to wring from the story some extra juicy parts in ways that would be impossible if we were kept in the dark.

And now, compare this to Star Wars, the prequel trilogy – where they managed to waste all that potential.

No, good storytelling does not require surprises. Good storytelling requires good storytelling. And so far that seems to be missing from the Scarlet story.

Astralporing.1957:

No, good storytelling does not require surprises. Good storytelling requires good storytelling. And so far that seems to be missing from the Scarlet story.

No, it seems to be missing from what they add into the Living Story updates. I’m sure there’s good storytelling . . . it’s just getting buried, or it’s not making it through what we actually see.

As I said earlier – there could be an interesting story under all this. It’s been handled pretty roughly to the point where that’s just potential we didn’t reach out to early on.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Astralporing.1957:

No, good storytelling does not require surprises. Good storytelling requires good storytelling. And so far that seems to be missing from the Scarlet story.

No, it seems to be missing from what they add into the Living Story updates. I’m sure there’s good storytelling . . . it’s just getting buried, or it’s not making it through what we actually see.

What we see is a poor quality writing that doesn’t make sense even if we assume that we lack lot of informations. There can be a ton of good writing hidden from us, but at this point that is not going to save the story. And nothing we have seen so far even suggests there’s something better behind it all (dev comments don’t count).

Astralporing.1957:

There can be a ton of good writing hidden from us, but at this point that is not going to save the story. And nothing we have seen so far even suggests there’s something better behind it all (dev comments don’t count).

“What Scarlet Saw” has me thinking there was a very interesting concept and outline which got mangled somewhere along the way.

they recently admitted that scarlet was good story with poor implementation
the next few updates are supposed to recap and conclude in a manner that whatever happens shouldn’t feel ridiculous

Meh. I, personally, like her, but I would rather see her end in a blaze of glory which opens up the LS to whatever is coming next. There just isn’t really anything redeeming about here, other than her technological advances, but we can simply take her toys after she’s dead.

Kryta, mostly likely the Ministry, would love to get their hands on Scarlet’s added designs to their watchknights. She might have used them for evil, but she did improve them by a great deal though. And, I’m sure, or I at least hope, that the Pact descends on her lab/HQ like a swarm of locusts, and they pick apart and examine all of her tech to modify to use against the Elder Dragons. In a fight for survival, you never turn down any new weapons you might be able to use.

As for her reasoning behind her actions, I’m hoping she is secretly getting manipulating by an entity from the Mists, personally. Or, what she saw in her vision/hallucination/whatever was her taking a deep dive into the Dream, and her brain was scrambled by all the visions of Tyria’s possible futures, hence her making and advancing seemingly random alliances for their tech.

I guess the latter could be used for your “saving the world” speculation, but this is still Scarlet after all. If she was saving the world, it would be only for her benefit.

cheshirefox.7026:

they recently admitted that scarlet was good story with poor implementation
the next few updates are supposed to recap and conclude in a manner that whatever happens shouldn’t feel ridiculous

It’s going to feel like it was crammed into the end much harder than the last third of Prophecies was crammed to make a story fit about the White Mantle and their Unseen Masters being a threat to all of Tyria.

ThiBash.5634:

The ‘evil guys become permanent allies’ bit only works if they’ve done things that the hero can forgive. The amount of damage caused by Scarlet is too great for that to be believable. Unless she was controlled by outside forces, I’d not see that happen in any believable way.

It’s good that she’ll be Ceara again then It seems pretty telling that as soon as she went “insane” her identity changed from Ceara to Scarlet Briar…outside force there you go….she’ll be back to Ceara again by then end of the LS.

Protoavis.9107:

ThiBash.5634:

The ‘evil guys become permanent allies’ bit only works if they’ve done things that the hero can forgive. The amount of damage caused by Scarlet is too great for that to be believable. Unless she was controlled by outside forces, I’d not see that happen in any believable way.

It’s good that she’ll be Ceara again then It seems pretty telling that as soon as she went “insane” her identity changed from Ceara to Scarlet Briar…outside force there you go….she’ll be back to Ceara again by then end of the LS.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We’ve seen that one already. Scarlet Briar/Rose Tyler looks into the heart of the TARDIS and becomes the ‘Bad Wolf’. Oops! Spoilers?

Protoavis.9107:

It’s good that she’ll be Ceara again then It seems pretty telling that as soon as she went “insane” her identity changed from Ceara to Scarlet Briar…outside force there you go….she’ll be back to Ceara again by then end of the LS.

Ceara was still a sociopath though. She cared about nothing but herself, and she only saw other people as tools to further her own knowledge. The only thing she gained from her “transformation” into Scarlet Briar is violent tendencies and a sadistic streak. Which she may or may not already had, since her short story was vague on any details about her life outside her learning.

Just wandering around LA. This speech made by Honestcrest made me wonder whether we will get Tengu allies against Scarlet. Or, not being great with remembering lore at all, is this in relation to something I’ve missed?

“What’s this place?”

" This is our dwelling, the Dominion of Winds. We keep watch from this perch as power shifts and the world is transformed. We must soon determine with whom we will fight and with whom we will ally."

Edit: just added quotation marks

Astralporing.1957:

Take, for example Fate/Zero. As it was a prequel, we have already known how it would end – and yet the author has managed to write it in a way that made the journey really satisfying. In fact, he used the fact we knew the ending to wring from the story some extra juicy parts in ways that would be impossible if we were kept in the dark.

The problem with the FSN anime was the way it was handled. Too much shoved in – being far too convoluted for anyone who hasn’t played the vn. When each branch has it’s own story to tell. Er, no that isn’t impossible – well not if you’re well versed in Nasuverse that is. Hiding Berserker id from Saber was a good twist.

Scoundrel.2139:

Just wandering around LA. This speech made by Honestcrest made me wonder whether we will get Tengu allies against Scarlet. Or, not being great with remembering lore at all, is this in relation to something I’ve missed?

Nope, been there since launch.

I Like her. It’ll be great to have a crazzy ally

dobri.7820:

I Like her. It’ll be great to have a crazzy ally

If she becomes an ally, she will no longer be ‘crazzy’. She will become as boring and sane as Trahearne.

Scarlet deep motives being to save Tyria is kind of a good idea. But she’s definitively at least half insane and did way too much destruction and death to become an ally. Something like that could be nice :

1) Scarlet during her experiment saw the Eternal Alchemy, the destruction of the Tyria by the Elder Dragon, but affected her judgment.
2) Scarlet start her own plan to destroy the dragons, but twisted her experience she don’t mind to destroy a big part of Tyria in order to save at least a part of it. By doing this, she manipulate several alliance that she unleash on Tyria in order to gain something from them (Knowledge, technology, magic, …?)
3) Eventually the hero will catch her, but at this point he will know her real motives. Maybe her method are not forgivable but her knowledge could be a real game changer in the fight against the elder Dragons. For this reason she’s keep in a secret location where she can give vital information to the Pact, even if she will keep manipulating and playing mind game with everybody.
4) With all the destruction she cause, she can’t publicly help the Pact. For this reason, the Pact tell people that she’s been kill. But the presence of Scarlet eventually come out publicly and start a politic fiasco. The Pact success to far against the Elder Dragon had been forget in part of Tyria where the presence of the other Dragons is not that strong. The human in particular see the Pact as manipulative and having maybe its own agenda, while the Queen feel betrayed by the Pact that kept Scarlet (who attempt to the life of the Queen).

Just an idea that could be a nice development. Scarlet could be important in the long term, but not being behind everything. Scarlet is still a nice character, but in the last year she always appear in the end to say : Ah ah it was me all along and then disappear.