Guild Wars 2

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They said that they had technical difficulties about helping others in Mario fight so they removed that possibility.

For Wurm, you can target them just at the beginning of fight without problem.

Mario?? It’s Mari, it’s a girl! Plus it fits my rhyme: Mari, Mari, quite contrary…how do your chains fall? With dps and skillfullness, and little players all on the ball.

OT: great assessment, I agree

Good points there.

I agree, it would be nice for the marionette after a platform broke a regulator to have the option to burn down the wall (yeah takes time, but it’s better than watching things go horribly wrong) to be able to assist (range at least) into another platform. Even if it was just to throw banner in.

Finally, a well-written constructive post. Bravo.

On your note regarding the inconsistent damage during wurm burn phases – that is a bug, and it’s one that is really discouraging people from attempting it.

edit: Also regarding your note on not getting achievements for Mari. You really have to dodge the attacks. If you are a guardian, aegis won’t help you get the achievement even though it blocks a hit.

casuals rewards scale with completion on both bosses. I don’t see how u can complain when you are rewarded for failing and by % completion.

Wurm

Good

1. The fight is really difficult, not pug based
2. Condis are getting little attention
3. Strategies in phase 1 are interesting.

Bad

1. We still don’t know how these fights scale
2. Amber is too hardcore, compared to Cobalt and Crishmond
3. DPS check in third phase. Timer is a bad fail mechanic there. Really bad.
4. Too luck based fight.
5. Ranger hate. Basically you don’t really need thiefs, engineers and rangers. Guardians, elementalists and mesmers are semi-useful. Warriors are superb, again.

Missing

1. Better fail mechanic in the last phase.
2. Rewards from fully killing it. I would love to see account bound ascender gauntlets for killing it. Now you don’t even have to fully kill it to get your title.
3. Trait retrainer in Bloodtide Coast. I used instant trait retrainer, but it’s not a great thing.
4. Information about noutritient. What does it do?!

The Gates Assassin.9827:

1. New fail mechanic. It really brings agency to keeping the event from failing.
2. Puts a lot of agency in the hands of the players.

What the heck is “agency?”?? I can’t figure out a word that makes sense there. Control?

Fluffball.8307:

The Gates Assassin.9827:

1. New fail mechanic. It really brings agency to keeping the event from failing.
2. Puts a lot of agency in the hands of the players.

What the heck is “agency?”?? I can’t figure out a word that makes sense there. Control?

A feeling that your actions effect the outcome of a series of events.

Ah! I have never heard it used that way before.

noun; agency: action or intervention, esp. such as to produce a particular effect.

Wurm
I’ve only been there once, and the whole of map chat was filled with “Just do the _ wurm for the reward and ignore the other two…”

Not really conducive to even attempting the whole of the event.

I do hope that when the Marionette ends, people will pay more attention to the Wurms.

Marionette

The good:
1. Relatively little organization required. Even those who show up at the last minute can get in on the fight with relatively little prep.
2. Challenging fights with fun mechanics requiring more than spamming 11111161111…
3. Great to see other lanes cheering on the lane on the platforms

The bad:
1. Unless someone fails the chain, one can only get to the platforms once (maybe twice if they start in L1.) I understand the sickness timer, but I think it’s a bit long.
2. One platform can’t help another. Sometimes the chain event fails because a platform only has 1 or 2 people in it, while the other 4 platforms can only watch in horror as the players lay dead on the platform.
3. The portals could be open a bit longer to allow more people to make it from the entrance to the lanes up to the portals. It might alleviate some of the problems with empty platforms as well.

The story:
The good:
1. Finally, a reason to not hate Scarlet any more than we already do, and to understand a bit why she was here.
2. The promise of something BIG eventually.

The bad:
1. boooooooooooring execution
2. unclear objectives… “Go to LA and talk to ____” then what? Oh, yeah, it’s on the UI in the corner…if I click on it… Why didn’t (insert NPC) tell me?

All in all, I like this update, but I fear that once people have their meta achievements, it will be empty.

I totally disagree the story was boring. It provided a huge amount of backstory if you wanted it, and if not you could just leave the instance.

The good
The fight mechanics of the Wurm and Marionette fight are awesome.

The bad
Doing these fights un-instanced with a random giant zerg is really frustrating.

The Gates Assassin.9827:

1. Casual content. Many casual players feel really left out of this update. All they really got was the power core farming stuff. Marionette I think is a bit too hard to be call casual content. Especially when so much rides on you during the boss fights.

I think marionette can be completed easily by casual players. The wardens are easy enough, and the event only penalizes entire group fails, not individual fails (except for people kiting warden II away from the mines, argh)

The wurm can also be completed by casuals, but they probably won’t try enough times to beat it. I think we can all agree that carrying toxins to the extractors is not a terribly difficult task.

captainteemo.6537:

Good points there.

I agree, it would be nice for the marionette after a platform broke a regulator to have the option to burn down the wall (yeah takes time, but it’s better than watching things go horribly wrong) to be able to assist (range at least) into another platform. Even if it was just to throw banner in.

With certain skills and weapons, this is possible… however I’ve rarely seen a group so on the ball as to engage the thing within range of a platform that could help. In fact they seem to take delight in staying as far away as possible ;(

From the ranger point of view, barrage and entangle (entangle landing is a BIG deal!) work across platforms. I’m not sure if might and fury do, but I toss those up if someone comes in range. I heard someone say S&R worked if someone was really close, but I have not been able to try that.

Aenesthesia.1697:

The Gates Assassin.9827:

1. Casual content. Many casual players feel really left out of this update. All they really got was the power core farming stuff. Marionette I think is a bit too hard to be call casual content. Especially when so much rides on you during the boss fights.

I think marionette can be completed easily by casual players. The wardens are easy enough, and the event only penalizes entire group fails, not individual fails (except for people kiting warden II away from the mines, argh)

The wurm can also be completed by casuals, but they probably won’t try enough times to beat it. I think we can all agree that carrying toxins to the extractors is not a terribly difficult task.

Shatterer is casual content. There is no chance that will ever ever ever fail. Yes, even with the timer. Marionette fails all the time. It’s not casual content. When people are talking about “Omg my server finally got it once!”, it’s no casual.

The wurms are not casual content. I’m not even going to bother backing that up with facts.

My 2 cents… And it may be less than constructive…

Fix the camera already. I have no idea the technical limitations, but good lordy.

One of the biggest reasons the platforms are even remotely as tough as they are is the freaking camera.

Marionette is a great fight. The randomness of the platform ruins it completly but its better than all other bosses.

The wurm is just one big mess, without a guide to know what you are suppose to do you just have 100 people standing around trying to kill stuff and get either instakilled or dazed for most of the time. One of the worst fights I have ever seen, only to be trumpt by the worst in this game, the battle against zaithan.
Please promote the people who came up with the marionette, and no more of that wurm thing please, it’s just for one or 2 servers without overflows, if you are in an overflow you can better stop, never going to work.

The Gates Assassin.9827:

Aenesthesia.1697:

The Gates Assassin.9827:

1. Casual content. Many casual players feel really left out of this update. All they really got was the power core farming stuff. Marionette I think is a bit too hard to be call casual content. Especially when so much rides on you during the boss fights.

I think marionette can be completed easily by casual players. The wardens are easy enough, and the event only penalizes entire group fails, not individual fails (except for people kiting warden II away from the mines, argh)

The wurm can also be completed by casuals, but they probably won’t try enough times to beat it. I think we can all agree that carrying toxins to the extractors is not a terribly difficult task.

Shatterer is casual content. There is no chance that will ever ever ever fail. Yes, even with the timer. Marionette fails all the time. It’s not casual content. When people are talking about “Omg my server finally got it once!”, it’s no casual.

The wurms are not casual content. I’m not even going to bother backing that up with facts.

NSP has failed Shatterer, hate to say it but it happens pretty regular. Usually just due to numbers though.

NSP has also beaten Teq several times and NSP is a pretty casual server.

We’ve also beaten Mari, several times, again with plenty of casual players taking part.

I think ultimately, if we got the numbers, now that we know the mechanics, we could ultimately add the wurm to our Temple rotation. Which is typically a zerg fest.

I’m not saying it’s casual friendly content right now, but as time goes on, i think these fights will be more casual friendly eventually.

aspirine.6852:

Marionette is a great fight. The randomness of the platform ruins it completly but its better than all other bosses.

The platforms aren’t random.

Stonecaduceus.5638:

aspirine.6852:

Marionette is a great fight. The randomness of the platform ruins it completly but its better than all other bosses.

The platforms aren’t random.

Yes they are. The bosses aren’t, but the platform you get is.