Guild Wars 2

So as have had extensive asura GW1 knowledge, leveled a level 80 asura with infinity ball and completed p-story on her, made a 2nd asura dynamics, I cant seem to make sense of Taimi, although everyones instrinct is to love her because how cute she is.

This is why Taimi smells like a rat:

1. She claims to be the WARD of Zoija. Taken from website “It should be interesting, seeing how much trouble Zojja’s ward can get herself into, and what Zojja ends up doing about it”
Ok first of all this is a HUGE disrespect, diss, shame on Zoija if her WARD is unhealthly obsessed with scarlet and looking up to scarlet as a mentor, wanting to learn things. If shes with Zoija, she should not be looking to learn from scarlet and think of scarlet as a genious. This goes against all asura principles. Zoija would not be cool with that. Zoija was either duped into teaching her or this is a lie.

2. Shes too nice to EVERYONE:
ALL asuras have an attitude towards non asuras. aka “Bookah” term. Zoija, Oola all are control freaks and the way Taimi interacts, although cute, has no ties to the asuran norm’s. She is too polite, and she has no ill words or snappy remarks.

3. Her Name:
Asura’s socially accepted norm is to have two of the same letter in your name in a row. Taimi. She only follows the almost mandatory female rule of having her name end in -i sound.(1 of 2 possible sounds). There are seldom, but some asuras have no two same letter in a row, however there are almost no females who disobey the last letter sound

TLDR:
She isnt a purebred innocent asura because if she was a ward of zoija she would not look up to scarlet to learn unless she abandoned zoija aka tricked her somehow and does not adhere to strict asuran norms such as non common name, politeness.

As all your points are valid saying ALL Asura do something is absurd. There are always outliers plus she is a child so she may not have that type of learned behavior yet. Also, if you read the books you’d know that Snaff wasn’t a complete jerk.

Plus I like her and I don’t want her to be up to something unpleasant.

Or maybe Zojja was such a free thinker her ideologies passed on.

I really want to hope that Tiami though is, in fact, a descendant of Vekk. Vekk was quite polite, at least to the hero, and Gadd was so ingenious he turned away from Asuran culture to research Bloodstones (Whoopah, another point for the Awesome Lore) because they seemed better at that point in his life.

Plus, Vekk hasn’t gotten any love except for a Solidified Aether Circuit.

Who whould the self centered Zojia take as a ward…“Snaff’s” Daughter maybe >.>. From book he was clearly a womanizer. Just wondering if the timeline match up 5 years.

Snaff’s Daughter! That would be an awesome. Crosses fingers

I’m actually thinking Cait Sith, but it’s probably just wishful thinking and dose of FFVII nostalgia.

Taimi is so fulsomely cute that she looks like someone taken from a horrormovie to me. And her whole behavior makes her pretty fishy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZGpWWN61Ix0#t=327
Watch from 5:20 onward.

this what Taimi rides it looks close, almost a better version, the final copy. zoija would know how to build this golem due to it being presented.

note: he says “Hop in, and think” similar to what Taimi might do when she rides the golem. He implies by hop in, youd be in a control pit similar to Taimi’s.

She has a new asura look to her plus the golem she’s sitting on is very cool

Maybe there is a reason the kittenpit is empty. Maybe she use to ride on the arms of the golums her father built…

Fafnir.5124:

Maybe there is a reason the kittenpit is empty. Maybe she use to ride on the arms of the golums her father built…

She actually goes in the golem at the start of Mari. There is a cool animation of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bSqWmkXOUI

Actually, I think she does the cute act because she knows it either gets in people’s nerves (Braham) or because it makes them lower their defenses thinking she’s just a cute kid so she can get away with what she wants. She does seem get the classic asura personality come out from time to time, like when Logan asks her if she doesn’t think Scarlet is a big old meanie… and she replies whether he always talks like he was 4 years old, and when you talk to her and she asks whether you realize she’s an asura, when you reply “of course”, she says about you being one of the intelligent (insert your race here), and that since there are so few she wouldn’t be surprised if you didn’t knew what an asura was.

1) And who says Zojja is okay with it? My understanding is that Asura do what they want when it comes to personal ambition; mentors, teachers, and authority figures be kittened. I don’t understand how this goes against Asuran principles either. BTW, acknowledging Scarlet as a genius (which she is) and wanting to learn from her in no way prevents the character from also treating her as a villain. If your enemy knows things you don’t, why not learn from them while you defeat them? I don’t see the problem.

2) She has a few snappy remarks here and there. Also remember that she’s being presented to players as a face for the Asura; making her cute and friendly (while snarky from time to time,) makes her easier to relate to than the typical “I’m too good for everything I see,” attitude of many Asura. See Locoman also ^

3) Not every Asuran follows that name scheme. It’s a guideline, not a rule. If an Asuran parent gives their child a name that doesn’t perfectly follow the guide, does that make that child a rebel, or does it mean her parents know how to name outside of the box?

Do you have any concrete evidence behind your theory? B/c frankly you don’t have much of a case right now.

I think she’s just highly focused for her age and really wants to learn more about Scarlet’s tech. I’m sure she thinks she has all sorts of contingency plans ready for all the ways Scarlet could react to her.

Her name bothers me. Taimi sounds like “Timey” which would indicate that she might be from the future (there was some speculation going on that)…

Invidia.9074:

Her name bothers me. Taimi sounds like “Timey” which would indicate that she might be from the future (there was some speculation going on that)…

Ye gods! Wibbly wobbly timey-wimey…

Crossover!!

If I see a flying blue box, I’m claiming a cheque in the post.

Invidia.9074:

Her name bothers me. Taimi sounds like “Timey” which would indicate that she might be from the future (there was some speculation going on that)…

Actually, I noticed that too. But I dismissed it as a coincidence or a silly pun. I just remembered, though, that she said in one of the dialogs, regarding her friendship with Braham:

“We are good friends, he just doesn’t know it yet.”

or something along those lines. Which would make the time-related argument have at least some basis. This may have been mentioned before, I don’t read all forum posts. :P

Invidia.9074:

Her name bothers me. Taimi sounds like “Timey” which would indicate that she might be from the future (there was some speculation going on that)…

In Finnish that name means ‘sprout’. It is probably irrelevant, but it would be kinda cute if it was not.

Neo.4307:

Invidia.9074:

Her name bothers me. Taimi sounds like “Timey” which would indicate that she might be from the future (there was some speculation going on that)…

Actually, I noticed that too. But I dismissed it as a coincidence or a silly pun. I just remembered, though, that she said in one of the dialogs, regarding her friendship with Braham:

“We are good friends, he just doesn’t know it yet.”

or something along those lines. Which would make the time-related argument have at least some basis. This may have been mentioned before, I don’t read all forum posts. :P

well we do already have 2 (one and two) instances of time travel in Tyria, so I wouldn’t put it completely out of the realm of possibilities.

JJBigs.8456:

3. Her Name:
Asura’s socially accepted norm is to have two of the same letter in your name in a row. Taimi. She only follows the almost mandatory female rule of having her name end in -i sound.(1 of 2 possible sounds). There are seldom, but some asuras have no two same letter in a row, however there are almost no females who disobey the last letter sound

Disagree.

If you look at the official wiki category page which lists pages for characters tagged as asura, you will see that there are tons of characters who do not have double letters. Some prominent examples include Agent Batanga (OOW personal story), Warmaster Efut (Vigil personal story), Tzark (AC explorable), Teyo (Inquest villain), Kudu (Inquest leader), all six members of the Arcane Council … list goes on.

I wouldn’t call that “seldom”.

She seems just…out of nowhere.

She knows about Scarlet, claims to be Zojja’s apprentice (even though we can’t ask Zojja ourselves) knows who Braham is even though they didn’t meet until that story instance, and knows your character if you’re asura too (The Snaff Prize winner.)

Hmm..I think she could be an Arcane Eye Agent, sent to spy on us.

Asura are not all universally “rude” to everyone in GW2. Maybe that was the case in GW1 (never played it, but I have heard comments to that effect) but not so much any more. Plenty of Asura NPC’s act perfectly civil towards all other races. Makes sense both from a lore and a gameplay standpoint, Asura have to interact with other races more frequently and cooperate with them as well, so it would be bad for them to go around insulting everyone constantly.

And Taimi does have some “superiority” to her, anyway. If you talk to her in the instance with a non-Asura character, she makes a comment along the lines of “you do realize I’m an Asura, right?” and once you reply yes, then she further comments that members of your race are often “slow”.

And most of the time she’s talking with Braham and Logan and being polite she’s using a sarcastic / mocking tone, so I don’t really think she’s genuinely like that.

She just robs me the wrong way too
There is some thing about cute little kids in video games that gives me the heebie jeebbies.

I don’t trust her at all

Aww, I like her. XD She’s spunky. My Asura Ele had a whole “you’re smarter than you look” moment while talking to her.

She reminds me of Cait SIth from FF7. As such I expect her to betray us.

Elenire.7306:

She reminds me of Cait SIth from FF7. As such I expect her to betray us.

Aw hell, man. Spoilers.

It’s very unlikely, but I would like it if she was the criminal mastermind behind that mad plant Scarlet. Isn’t she from synergetics? Maybe she manipulated this machine which drove Scarlet crazy.

I wonder if Taimi and “the new voice of Scarlet” are connected…

Her name’s an anagram for “aim it,” so maybe she’s a spotter for Scarlet’s superweapons.
New character out of the blue? Not suspicious at all.

I might just be chasing shadows here but Taimi seems a like it could be a little bit of wordplay/tomfoolery Timey? Longshot of course, but its fun to speculate .

Where do u get all the dialogues with that new NPC? The only 2 encounters i had with it was at the event (1-2 lines about nothing) and in the cutscenes of the living story where all the random NPCs met to talk about random life stuff whatever and we were forced to watch that continue the story. She was hitting on braham there and that’s it.

I am actually interested in her but can’t seem to find more on her then that.

Taimi has snappy remarks, they’re just not mean-spirited. She toys with Braham in an adorable yet clearly manipulative way. Very asura. Heck, Rox is very unlike most charr, but that doesn’t make her a closet watchwork spy.

She has a sweet golem, way better looking than Mr. Sparkles. Wouldn’t surprise me if she were Snaff’s kid. That’d be awesome. And Zojja would DEFINITELY take her under wing if that were the case.

And Taimi doesn’t look up to Scarlet, simply recognizes her genius. This is actually common asuran thought, that just because someone or something is “evil/bad” doesn’t mean it doesn’t have merit. In the conversation you have with Taimi, she says she’s studying Scarlet (which is smart, so is the Durmand Priory) and you say Scarlet’s a “homicidal maniac,” and she says something to the effect of “well yea but she’s still a genius.” Know your enemy and study the work of geniuses.

Taimi’s on the up and up.

Rebound.3409:

Where do u get all the dialogues with that new NPC? The only 2 encounters i had with it was at the event (1-2 lines about nothing) and in the cutscenes of the living story where all the random NPCs met to talk about random life stuff whatever and we were forced to watch that continue the story. She was hitting on braham there and that’s it.

I am actually interested in her but can’t seem to find more on her then that.

In that instance with the characters talking with each other, you can click on them all and have a chat. Actually, the event log updates to say catching up with them is an optional goal.

Will check it out again thx

Rebound.3409:

Where do u get all the dialogues with that new NPC? The only 2 encounters i had with it was at the event (1-2 lines about nothing) and in the cutscenes of the living story where all the random NPCs met to talk about random life stuff whatever and we were forced to watch that continue the story. She was hitting on braham there and that’s it.

I am actually interested in her but can’t seem to find more on her then that.

There are several conversations there, when it comes to Taimi first she talks to Braham and Logan (when she does the little child act), then when Logan goes to talk to Marjorie, she also bumps in (this is when she tells Logan whether he always talk like a 4 years old). Also you can talk to the each character separatedly. When you talk with Taimi is when she tells you whether you realise she’s an asura, as long as your own character isn’t an asura, that is. If you talk to her as an asura, then she tells you instead that she’s studying in the college of synergetics and doing important field experiments, and when you ask whether Zojja aproves of her experiments, she just tells you to ask her yourself.

locoman.1974:

If you talk to her as an asura, then she tells you instead that she’s studying in the college of synergetics and doing important field experiments, and when you ask whether Zojja aproves of her experiments, she just tells you to ask her yourself.

(Even?) if you talk to her as a sylvari, she says something along the lines of “Ah ok, I thought you were one of those slow sylvaris”. I wonder if this is an insult for sylvari characters only, a mere oversight of content team or an alarming point of her not recognizing sylvaris at all.

Lishtenbird.2814:

(Even?) if you talk to her as a sylvari, she says something along the lines of “Ah ok, I thought you were one of those slow sylvaris”. I wonder if this is an insult for sylvari characters only, a mere oversight of content team or an alarming point of her not recognizing sylvaris at all.

Odd that she’d say “one of those slow sylvari” when she knows that Scarlet is such a genius.

Seras.5702:

Odd that she’d say “one of those slow sylvari” when she knows that Scarlet is such a genius.

And this as well. Such “tongue slips” make me think that Scarlet has been a hologram all way long, and some cute little asura genius had been pulling strings right from the start. It makes far more sense for an asura to be an extremely gifted engineer and not a max-25-year-old sylvari girl ^^

Lishtenbird.2814:

Seras.5702:

Odd that she’d say “one of those slow sylvari” when she knows that Scarlet is such a genius.

And this as well. Such “tongue slips” make me think that Scarlet has been a hologram all way long, and some cute little asura genius had been pulling strings right from the start. It makes far more sense for an asura to be an extremely gifted engineer and not a max-25-year-old sylvari girl ^^

As opposed to a 10yr old girl?

Seras.5702:

As opposed to a 10yr old girl?

1. Asura are genii (or at least brought up as such), sylvari are… well, “slow” ^^
2. That might be her cover. A sylvari can’t be older than 25 (if we exclude lore violation or time travel), an asura most probably can toy with genetics/gadgets to look younger.

Well yes, extreme cases of polymorphing, hypnosis and such can also be applied to many different scenarios, but still.

From this bit of dialogue I get the idea that she’s only interested in Scarlet’s work as an engineer:

You know she’s a homicidal maniac, right?

“I know! But that doesn’t make her any less of an engineer. I could learn so much from her. Genius comes in many colors, you know?”

I mean, a lot of people who have done horrible things had something about them that people can take interest in. Them being horrible people doesn’t take away the fact that they are a genius.

Take for example the German general Rommel, he was respected by a lot of allied commanders because of his skill, but he was still the enemy . I wouldn’t say Scarlet’s exactly like that, because she’s more than a soldier following orders, but my point is that even though someone is an enemy, you can still have respect for certain aspects about them.

Compare:

Talented yet creepy creature with hair tied up in a bow – probably on a mad roostertail* of illegal drugs and looking like a Victorian child prostitute.
http://tinyurl.com/own33rs

with a talented yet creepy creature with hair tied up in a bow – probably on a mad roostertail* of illegal drugs and looking like a Victorian child prostitute.

http://tinyurl.com/orklggg

• you know what I mean.

Lishtenbird.2814:

Seras.5702:

Odd that she’d say “one of those slow sylvari” when she knows that Scarlet is such a genius.

And this as well. Such “tongue slips” make me think that Scarlet has been a hologram all way long, and some cute little asura genius had been pulling strings right from the start. It makes far more sense for an asura to be an extremely gifted engineer and not a max-25-year-old sylvari girl ^^

As someone playing an Asura with the Infinity Ball story I found a few even more disturbing elements.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Split_Second (contains Spoilers)

Steam creatures?, Battle for Divinties Reach?,

Is she me? oO Ok, Ill stop here spreading weird ideas.

Regarding her name, taimi means a sapling or seedling.

Hmmm, fishy indeed.

Lishtenbird.2814:

locoman.1974:

If you talk to her as an asura, then she tells you instead that she’s studying in the college of synergetics and doing important field experiments, and when you ask whether Zojja aproves of her experiments, she just tells you to ask her yourself.

(Even?) if you talk to her as a sylvari, she says something along the lines of “Ah ok, I thought you were one of those slow sylvaris”. I wonder if this is an insult for sylvari characters only, a mere oversight of content team or an alarming point of her not recognizing sylvaris at all.

Well, I’ve only tried it on my sylvari guardian (read the other choices on wiki), but if you talk to her as any race except asura, you get the “Ah ok, I though you were one of those slow (your race here)”, so a human should get “one of those slow humans”, a norn “one of those slow norns” and so on…. if you’re an asura, you get a completely different dialog when talking to her.

Well from the one screenshot from this article# it looks like Taimi’s gonna be in some trouble. Thats her golem isn’kitten

http://wac.7725.edgecastcdn.net/807725/website/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Taimis-Broken-Golem-150x150.jpg

UPDATE FROM INFO TODAYS PATCH from an gw2 article:

in this release, Johanson did mention that Zojja has difficulty handling people who think they’re smarter than she is. And since Taimi, who is technically a student of the Asuran colleges, has decided to ditch school completely and take her education into her own hands, we suspect this might be a point of conflict in the future.

Zoija doesnt approve of Taimi, no way. After Taimi would call a non asuran a genious, not be under Zoijas wing learning new things or anything (Zoija has a complex about thinking SHE is the smartest ever), we now we learn she abandoned school. Zoija did have the power to make such a golem as Snaff’s golem research included the type Taimi has and Zoija’s ward (you in personal story), also makes this same golem.

So the question is: How far off the asuran culture did Taimi land as she is now school-less which is a huge deal and looks up to scarlet. Following scarlet everywhere. Will Taimi help us or leave us to die if she gets a chance to meet scarlet?

I haven’t seen Taimi without her golem Scruffy. Maybe she is just a projection or something. Telepathy controlled golems are dangerous, so maybe one of the experiments had gone awry, and Taimi’s consciousness became trapped in the golem’s system.

edit: just played edge of the mists, my theory was wrong, and it seems Taimi has a disease that prevents her from walking by herself, so that explains why she doesn't go down from her golem

“We’ve established that Taimi’s an orphan. The question of Taimi’s guardianship is very much up in the air right now, she’s under the protection of Rata Sum’s Prodigy Protective Services but at the moment she’s a student in the Synergetics college and she’s interested in exploring other options. That creates some friction between her and her mentor Zojja.

“Taimi’s fascination with Scarlet largely is a case of hero worship. She looks at Scarlet and she’s willing to overlook the villainy and the mass murder and the destruction inflicts, for a crack at the kind of freedom she sees Scarlet enjoying. She’s a genius but like all of us at a younger age, she has impulse control problems and sometimes this stirs up trouble. I think players will see that from the very beginning when they follow her into the mists.”

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/8191/Guild-Wars-2-War-Lore-Edge-of-the-Mists-.html

As her name means seedling… I don’t suppose she could be the child of Scarlet and Zoija? :P Now there’s an awkward coupling.
It would also explain a lot of things

Where does she live now? I read somewhere she ran away from Rata Sum.