Guild Wars 2

Quite disappointed to see an SoR guild participating in a GvG at this time

altosax.4218:

Just reading the chatter about how easy JQ has it in the tournament draw. From my experience, BG and SoR ALWAYS double team JQ. It’s happening in the first round now. But… this has gone on long before any tournament. Seems to me the two ugly step sisters still hate Cinderella. Your just covering the bases bad-mouthing the draw in case it doesn’t work.

Personally I think each server should rely on THEMSELVES to win battles. Alliances are for whiny babies who cannot do it alone. I also seem to remember BG throwing out their chest so proud when they were the 1ST to beat TEQ. Now it’s if JQ wins it’s because of the draw and it won’t mean anything. Pathetic!

If, and I mean if JQ wins it’s because of their use of strategy, it’s because of dedication and proper gameplay. So just play fair and that’s it. Trying to convince yourselves that a server will win because of the draw is childish.

Slim

Your experience of JQ ‘always’ being double teamed is nothing more than hyperbole. For approx 5-6 hours yesterday in EB, BG had SOR hitting Ogres while JQ was rampaging on our western flank. This was a double team but – guess what? – in a 3 sided conflict that’s both strategy and math.

I’m struggling to make any sense of your bizarre statement about Teq. If Anet had made Teq 30% easier for BG then you’d have a point. JQ has a demonstrably easier draw than its potential competitors – this isn’t spin, it’s a fact.

I had hoped that JQ posters would be at the forefront of posters asking for the draw to be redone, for it to be as competitive as it could be given coverage disparities.

But no, it appears that the desire for welfare wins in WvW runs strong in some.

Hey mates, cant play gw2 because of work and crap. Got A few questions

1)Are the ques still bad 24/7 ?
2)Will it get better in the next few days?
3)Do the JQ,BG and SoR fights feel fair and balanced
4)whats all this complain about pve players taking wvw slots? will be short lived?
-Fuzz

Fuzzion.2504:

Hey mates, cant play gw2 because of work and crap. Got A few questions

1)Are the ques still bad 24/7 ?
2)Will it get better in the next few days?
3)Do the JQ,BG and SoR fights feel fair and balanced
4)whats all this complain about pve players taking wvw slots? will be short lived?
-Fuzz

Playing this afternoon I had maybe 10 minute queue to get into BG BL and maybe just 5 mins to get into SoR BL. Didn’t try EB. So they already seem to be petering out now that achievement hunters seem to realize they actually will have to WvW regularly to get the achievement.

^That’s the reason for big PvE influx. Season 1 achievements.

Fuzzion.2504:

Hey mates, cant play gw2 because of work and crap. Got A few questions

1)Are the ques still bad 24/7 ?
2)Will it get better in the next few days?
3)Do the JQ,BG and SoR fights feel fair and balanced
4)whats all this complain about pve players taking wvw slots? will be short lived?
-Fuzz

1) Always a queue..time in queue varies from 10-40 mins.
2) No
3) When its not not 2v1 SoR seems to come out on top a little more than BG(just a little from my experience) and JQ feels like they lost a few steps.
4. PVE players wants the new WvW achievements and the 15 achievement chest.

Thanks for the open field fights tonight NS, always fun testing our skill against another skilled opponent.

BTW – to the poster above ^ it was only a couple open field engagements between north hills and BG garri, not a GvG – don’t get your panties in a bunch

On a positive note, ran with a [FOO] pin today for the first time and had a blast. Having a commander be both competent and excited (or is excitable the better word? :P ) was really fun, and hope to get to run with our Far East brothers and sisters again!

Fuzzion.2504:

Hey mates, cant play gw2 because of work and crap. Got A few questions

1)Are the ques still bad 24/7 ?
2)Will it get better in the next few days?
3)Do the JQ,BG and SoR fights feel fair and balanced
4)whats all this complain about pve players taking wvw slots? will be short lived?
-Fuzz

1) During Oceanic and Sea queues havent been too bad, seeing about a 20-30 minute queue on all maps with exception to EB, during NA prime as high as 2 hours for some maps. (atleast for JQ)
2) I’d imagine during SEA and Oceanic times will get shorter queue’s as week goes on.
3)Tons of fighting going on. Have to be on toes or fall victim to 2v1’s.
4) This one requires more explanation. PvE’ers arent doing everything they could be doing to help the group. I heard rumour’s of 20+ people doing the jumping puzzle on JQ BL for instance, while garri was being slammed by a 2v1.
They also tend to solo roam more, and have a hard time following simple instructions, such as, don’t PvD .
Most PvE’er’s also are mostly glass, and aren’t built for pvp/zergs, leading to a lot of wipes in zerg vs zerg fights.
Also getting them to come of TS is almost impossible…
On top of that, they hog up a spot for more seasoned WvWers. My guild leader and commander cant even get on due to long queues.
Atleast thats my perspective.

GG to SoR and JQ for the awesome Garrison fight on SoRBL that seemed to have lasted hours. We kept trying to let JQ cap but we finally realized they weren’t capable so we did it ourselves, mad respect to SoR for not folding under the pressure and really dragging out the fight. Lag like no other but still fun stuff

Seemed hours and lasted hours, at least 4h we fought on garri many many loot bags GG to all the guilds on that fight, but in the end it was to much, we were just overrun. Anyways, tomorow is another day, keep up the fighting

meanwhile at the hotm, the Q it’s starting to affect some players…..

Perceptor.7189:

meanwhile at the hotm, the Q it’s starting to affect some players…..

Lol thats part of my guild, waiting in line for EB lol
Im the naked white haired norn.

Naked dance party!
Woooohooo!

Last week there was almost a 36 hour long Karma train on BG BL. Countless towers were pvdoored by 60+ people pretty much the entire time. I think I was in the train for about 12 hours out of that entire time. Also, in that entire time, I did not see a single person lag through the gate on accident. Just sayin.

celeron.3469:

@HzH guy: I found 1 ranger who didn’t run from me today. I found 1 guard who ported as soon as he saw me go towards him, 1 ele who ran but couldn’t get away, and a thief who upon me running up to him used blinding powder and ran to bay. I was solo in every situation. So maybe try getting your 1 ranger to train your guildies to not run, he’s a cool guy.

As i am probably the ele you are referring to here i think i can explain why we ‘run away’ from you instead of fight you.
oPP is a guild build to roam and 1v1 , 2v1 people. PvP players pur sang and you’re good, if not great, at what you do.
[HzH] is a map leading guild, almost 95% of the players you’ll encounter with an [HzH] tag are built to support the guild in open field fights, support and siege warfare. We have roamers, but they are few and far between. The ones we have though, tend to kitten people up in 1v1, i hope you’ll encounter them once, i think it’s going to be a good match.

As for why i tend to ‘run away’, instead of fight an oPP player 1v1. Well, first, i’m a friggin ele…last thing i need to do is 1v1-ing mesmers and thieves :p
Secondly, my entire gear, weaponset, traitset, build…is made to support a guild group in group fights. I know my build, i don’t deal a lot of dmg, but i heal the kitten out of people and make sure my commander is alive and at full health even during the largest fights. Do you honestly want me, a staff ele (even switching to daggers won’t do much for me) with 0 points in fire, and fully geared to heal instead of doing dmg, fight you who are fully decked out to 1v1 people. I don’t see the use in that, to me is it’s as usefull as a can of alcoholfree beer in a bachelorsparty. I honnestly think it makes more sense for me to try to kite you and go help my own guild. And this goes for almost all of our members.
So yeah, you’ll probably see us trying to dodge your guild in order to get to our own, not because we suck, but because we’re simply not sporting the build to 1v1 at that time.

That being said. Few HzH will be able to win from an oPP player in a 1v1. On the other hand, oPP is less likely to capture/defend a keep being defended/assaulted by HzH.
Both guilds have their strengths and weaknesses, no use in chest thumping on forums on how you can use your strong point vs another guilds weak point.

Signed
An [HzH] ele that will always run away from a 1v1.

Ps: To everyone else in this thread……You’re not 2v1-ing us…it’s a delusion….it’s us who are 1v2-ing you.

Rhaegus.8924:

celeron.3469:

@HzH guy: I found 1 ranger who didn’t run from me today. I found 1 guard who ported as soon as he saw me go towards him, 1 ele who ran but couldn’t get away, and a thief who upon me running up to him used blinding powder and ran to bay. I was solo in every situation. So maybe try getting your 1 ranger to train your guildies to not run, he’s a cool guy.

As i am probably the ele you are referring to here i think i can explain why we ‘run away’ from you instead of fight you.
oPP is a guild build to roam and 1v1 , 2v1 people. PvP players pur sang and you’re good, if not great, at what you do.
[HzH] is a map leading guild, almost 95% of the players you’ll encounter with an [HzH] tag are built to support the guild in open field fights, support and siege warfare. We have roamers, but they are few and far between. The ones we have though, tend to kitten people up in 1v1, i hope you’ll encounter them once, i think it’s going to be a good match.

As for why i tend to ‘run away’, instead of fight an oPP player 1v1. Well, first, i’m a friggin ele…last thing i need to do is 1v1-ing mesmers and thieves :p
Secondly, my entire gear, weaponset, traitset, build…is made to support a guild group in group fights. I know my build, i don’t deal a lot of dmg, but i heal the kitten out of people and make sure my commander is alive and at full health even during the largest fights. Do you honestly want me, a staff ele (even switching to daggers won’t do much for me) with 0 points in fire, and fully geared to heal instead of doing dmg, fight you who are fully decked out to 1v1 people. I don’t see the use in that, to me is it’s as usefull as a can of alcoholfree beer in a bachelorsparty. I honnestly think it makes more sense for me to try to kite you and go help my own guild. And this goes for almost all of our members.
So yeah, you’ll probably see us trying to dodge your guild in order to get to our own, not because we suck, but because we’re simply not sporting the build to 1v1 at that time.

That being said. Few HzH will be able to win from an oPP player in a 1v1. On the other hand, oPP is less likely to capture/defend a keep being defended/assaulted by HzH.
Both guilds have their strengths and weaknesses, no use in chest thumping on forums on how you can use your strong point vs another guilds weak point.

Signed
An [HzH] ele that will always run away from a 1v1.

Ps: To everyone else in this thread……You’re not 2v1-ing us…it’s a delusion….it’s us who are 1v2-ing you.

Refreshing to read somebody who understands what’s going on.

Rhaegus.8924:

celeron.3469:

@HzH guy: I found 1 ranger who didn’t run from me today. I found 1 guard who ported as soon as he saw me go towards him, 1 ele who ran but couldn’t get away, and a thief who upon me running up to him used blinding powder and ran to bay. I was solo in every situation. So maybe try getting your 1 ranger to train your guildies to not run, he’s a cool guy.

As i am probably the ele you are referring to here i think i can explain why we ‘run away’ from you instead of fight you.
oPP is a guild build to roam and 1v1 , 2v1 people. PvP players pur sang and you’re good, if not great, at what you do.
[HzH] is a map leading guild, almost 95% of the players you’ll encounter with an [HzH] tag are built to support the guild in open field fights, support and siege warfare. We have roamers, but they are few and far between. The ones we have though, tend to kitten people up in 1v1, i hope you’ll encounter them once, i think it’s going to be a good match.

As for why i tend to ‘run away’, instead of fight an oPP player 1v1. Well, first, i’m a friggin ele…last thing i need to do is 1v1-ing mesmers and thieves :p
Secondly, my entire gear, weaponset, traitset, build…is made to support a guild group in group fights. I know my build, i don’t deal a lot of dmg, but i heal the kitten out of people and make sure my commander is alive and at full health even during the largest fights. Do you honestly want me, a staff ele (even switching to daggers won’t do much for me) with 0 points in fire, and fully geared to heal instead of doing dmg, fight you who are fully decked out to 1v1 people. I don’t see the use in that, to me is it’s as usefull as a can of alcoholfree beer in a bachelorsparty. I honnestly think it makes more sense for me to try to kite you and go help my own guild. And this goes for almost all of our members.
So yeah, you’ll probably see us trying to dodge your guild in order to get to our own, not because we suck, but because we’re simply not sporting the build to 1v1 at that time.

That being said. Few HzH will be able to win from an oPP player in a 1v1. On the other hand, oPP is less likely to capture/defend a keep being defended/assaulted by HzH.
Both guilds have their strengths and weaknesses, no use in chest thumping on forums on how you can use your strong point vs another guilds weak point.

Signed
An [HzH] ele that will always run away from a 1v1.

Ps: To everyone else in this thread……You’re not 2v1-ing us…it’s a delusion….it’s us who are 1v2-ing you.

./salute. Good post, well put.

Now, where were we? Oh yeah, I challenge everyone to a duel, nu uh. I am better. Nu uh.

altosax.4218:

From my experience, BG and SoR ALWAYS double team JQ.

If JQ wins it’s because of their use of strategy, it’s because of dedication and proper gameplay.

Good one Slim!

Rhaegus.8924:

Signed
An [HzH] ele that will always run away from a 1v1.

Lol exactly how I feel on my healbot guardian. Granted she’s still upleveled right now but I don’t anticipate my philosophy changing much at 80. I feel ya. It’s either pointless death or pointless stalemate.

!http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5254/7qz8.jpg!

SOR/JQ camping BG Ogrewatch yesterday. So many hours of the same. Weren’t you getting as bored of this as we were?

SoR nearly lost Bay T3 keep on JQ BL.

We knew JQ was there the whole time but we were actively taking Garri and were relying on using the Bay WP. Unfortunately the WP never popped and we almost lost it, circle went up to 50%.

Avenge.1478:

KeeZee.7312:

AvengerCap.7983:

“It was the hacking of our bay back in T2 on a repeated basis by a certain BG guild which started the BG/SoR rivalry. Since then BG has become a server which not only manages its members well but is quite apologetic for any type of hacking or exploiting. I have a lot of respect for that server to be quite frank. What is happening now with certain guilds is disheartening from a competitors viewpoint. Doing certain shady moves and using the rivalry between BG and SoR in the hopes the historic bias of our server will not change. But as far as I’m concerned, there is no more BG/SoR rivalry, let it officially be put to bed. And let the games begin fresh with the new season”

- Indo

SoR knows about guilds that hack. Can you say Fear and HL.

HL…Ya, it was an accident that we hacked into NW tower on JQBL 5 times in less than an hour.

If you were smart enough to form a valid opinion/argument, then youd realize your claim of us ‘hacking’ into your tower is just plain stupid. Sure dude, a few of us lagged through the gate and took your tower.. oh wait lol nevermind we jumped right out as we do not tolerate “hacking”. Morons.

Please explain how you “accidentally lagged” into the tower 4 or 5 times yet no JQ or BG “accidentally lagged” in the tower. In fact, no other SoR “accidentally lagged” into the tower.

You would think SOMEONE would have the same problem at some point. No, just you. I would just love to hear your theory of how you are the only guild effected by this.

I thought this thread would be more interesting now that it’s League time.

While I don’t want to join the complaining about queues and PvE players- I do want to say that it gets irritating fighting every engagement in the borderlands with skill lag as if we were in a 3 server SM fight.

Lol.

Slayer Lord.5023:

Avenge.1478:

KeeZee.7312:

AvengerCap.7983:

“It was the hacking of our bay back in T2 on a repeated basis by a certain BG guild which started the BG/SoR rivalry. Since then BG has become a server which not only manages its members well but is quite apologetic for any type of hacking or exploiting. I have a lot of respect for that server to be quite frank. What is happening now with certain guilds is disheartening from a competitors viewpoint. Doing certain shady moves and using the rivalry between BG and SoR in the hopes the historic bias of our server will not change. But as far as I’m concerned, there is no more BG/SoR rivalry, let it officially be put to bed. And let the games begin fresh with the new season”

- Indo

SoR knows about guilds that hack. Can you say Fear and HL.

HL…Ya, it was an accident that we hacked into NW tower on JQBL 5 times in less than an hour.

If you were smart enough to form a valid opinion/argument, then youd realize your claim of us ‘hacking’ into your tower is just plain stupid. Sure dude, a few of us lagged through the gate and took your tower.. oh wait lol nevermind we jumped right out as we do not tolerate “hacking”. Morons.

Please explain how you “accidentally lagged” into the tower 4 or 5 times yet no JQ or BG “accidentally lagged” in the tower. In fact, no other SoR “accidentally lagged” into the tower.

You would think SOMEONE would have the same problem at some point. No, just you. I would just love to hear your theory of how you are the only guild effected by this.

Our guild leader has explained the issue at hand and gave you/everyone an explanation on how it happened. The fact you’re unable to comprehend that explanation makes you a moron.

It was a simple mistake due to lag. The guardian it happened to repeatedly jumped out of the tower. The fact the only screenshots shown have showed our member entering/leaving the tower only supports our claims.

I still am confused as to why you’re all worked up with an event that happened a full 24 hours ago. We even had a GM running on the BL. So…

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

I thought this thread would be more interesting now that it’s League time.

Welcome to t1!

Queues are on the right, Lag is on the left. Please help yourself to some cookies while you wait.

Plays elevator music

Stealth.8150:

KeeZee.7312:

JQ should just focus BG to help give SoR the win.

rofl sor little desperate to win they coming up with all the random idea’s. i guess they don’t want all the gold wasted on buying guilds not go to waste.

tactics getting cheaper day by day first you guys initiate 2v1 v jq and now you want a 2v1 v bg.

hmm…you might not like what I’m going to say but I really have this weird urge to tell you that, I don’t see how someone who himself was bought could be so impudently discussing about buying guilds. Did you ever see any murderer say to another murderer “You kitten kitten. I wish you don’t get jailed for murdering.” eh?

Great work tonight in NA prime BG. All ’dem Garrisons.

P.S. Oh yeah, we had Miss SMC on our side as well. Can’t forget about her <3

pot.6805:

Great work tonight in NA prime BG. All ’dem Garrisons.

P.S. Oh yeah, we had Miss SMC on our side as well. Can’t forget about her <3

In b4 stacked accusations come out Nah was fun during NA prime lots of fights all over good job everyone.

Thanks to the SoR Mesmer with the guild tag [BaD] wearing the charr t3 armor with a arah helmet and a ascalonian greatsword, we fought by the centaurs and it was magical, made me feel like a unicorn on heroin

Slayer Lord.5023:

Please explain how you “accidentally lagged” into the tower 4 or 5 times yet no JQ or BG “accidentally lagged” in the tower. In fact, no other SoR “accidentally lagged” into the tower.

You would think SOMEONE would have the same problem at some point. No, just you. I would just love to hear your theory of how you are the only guild effected by this.

They have, this is a well known issue.

TheJewpacabro.2907:

Thanks to the SoR Mesmer with the guild tag [BaD] wearing the charr t3 armor with a arah helmet and a ascalonian greatsword, we fought by the centaurs and it was magical, made me feel like a unicorn on heroin

lol that sounds amazing. i want fights like that.

wtb lag fix. i has lots of broken picks or whatever you get from bags to trade.

and oh, random, but i REALLY really wanted to make Glacial Heart on the Guardian work, as much as i knew it wouldn’t.. and it didn’t. : ((

and i broke the thread. here is a try to fixing it.

DJM.1450:

P.S. BTW only one poster was accurate with my account name, could there be another player with a similar character name, special letters, etc?

It’s not you and there is another mesmer with a similar toon name to your own and people here have blamed the wrong person.

I play on BG but I have played on JQ in the past and I know this poster DJM.1450 (I’ve had him on my friends list for months) and seen him in action.
He is one of the best mesmers I have ever seen in regards hiding, portaling in people etc., He doesn’t nor has he ever hacked – he really is just very good.

There is another mesmer with a similar spelled in game character name and he DOES hack, he has been seen floating/flying through the air, up and over walls etc.,
BG had a similar mesmer at one stage recently a few weeks back and tons of people on BG reported him along with posting details in war council public notes for all to see and named the person to stay away from.

I would suggest people from JQ do the same, nobody benefits in the long run from taking advantage of others exploiting/hacking in WvW – it ruins the game for everyone.

So anyway, DJM, it’s not you that has been seen hacking, people have wrongly identified and wrongly blamed you because of the other hacking kitteners in-game character name.

People haven’t realized yet that 1v1 in this game is build wars?

Ghoulina.2976:

LostBalloon.6423:

I never believe to ever say that after the weeks of rivalry with BG starting all the way from the lower tiers, but, props and respect for calling out against your own hackers.

Unlike JQ currently trying to accuse its competition of hacking (on a known issue caused by server lag) when they take the portals laid by hacking mesmers.

Well, I could post things like this thief from October the 8th at 10:59pm EST who was also with a mesmer friend portaling people into the walls of SM, from SoR. Not pointing fingers or anything.

We all have dumb dumbs that do dumb things. Report them and move on. Not like anet does anything about anything. They never have (unless it was a mistake on their own end then they ban over 1000 accounts).

As someone who was there with that thief on teamspeak. He got stuck in the wall, and he couldnt port out because you guys kept putting him into combat. There was no mesmer involved in that situation, and any ports were done by mesmers who had gotten inside during any of the numerous flips SMC went through that day.

Kirito.8796:

People haven’t realized yet that 1v1 in this game is build wars?

Please, people in WvW don’t know how to 1v1! That would require pressing more than just the autoattack button.

… actually, depending on the build, perhaps not.

Zenyatoo.4059:

Ghoulina.2976:

LostBalloon.6423:

I never believe to ever say that after the weeks of rivalry with BG starting all the way from the lower tiers, but, props and respect for calling out against your own hackers.

Unlike JQ currently trying to accuse its competition of hacking (on a known issue caused by server lag) when they take the portals laid by hacking mesmers.

Well, I could post things like this thief from October the 8th at 10:59pm EST who was also with a mesmer friend portaling people into the walls of SM, from SoR. Not pointing fingers or anything.

We all have dumb dumbs that do dumb things. Report them and move on. Not like anet does anything about anything. They never have (unless it was a mistake on their own end then they ban over 1000 accounts).

As someone who was there with that thief on teamspeak. He got stuck in the wall, and he couldnt port out because you guys kept putting him into combat. There was no mesmer involved in that situation, and any ports were done by mesmers who had gotten inside during any of the numerous flips SMC went through that they.

There was a a mesmer, it as an uplevel human female with the level 40ish karma gear skin (the skull and horns helm), different guild though, and there was lots of time while we were trying to figure out how to get to him (a group of us were there for a good hour) for him to get out of combat. So sure, he got “stuck” there.

You see how that sounds?

I’ve been glitched through gates due to lag (only twice since pre-launch) and had a friend get stuck underground once. Only time I’ve seen people stuck in walls is from repairs/troll mes portals. I’m not saying it can’t happen, but the reality of someone getting “stuck” in an interior wall in SMC and staying there for ages is unlikely, not utterly impossible, just unlikely.

Great stuff tonight on EBG, keep it coming!

Tarkus.4109:

Keep in mind that calls by only one server to try and institute a 2v1 on another usually backfires in that it kitten es off the people targeted and also makes the second party to want to spite you. We’ll try and show respect if you do – keep the vitriol to the minimum please.

I don’t even.
(Excuse my pr0 ninja paint skills to block out top secret name)

Uric.3280:

Tarkus.4109:

Keep in mind that calls by only one server to try and institute a 2v1 on another usually backfires in that it kitten es off the people targeted and also makes the second party to want to spite you. We’ll try and show respect if you do – keep the vitriol to the minimum please.

I don’t even.
(Excuse my pr0 ninja paint skills to block out top secret name)

Not the first time. Not.

Hello small mans and roamer types of T1.

On Thursdays [SG] hosts our 5man nights. If you see [SG] on a bl Thurs, come and have fun old school roamer style, and we will take it to the streets! All 5mans will be in seperate coms running around. We’ve been doing this for about a month now on Thurs. JQ if you’re a 5manner feel free to yell at us on Thurs and grab a group, then hop in your own TS channel.

We are an old school “serious bizness” wvw guild, so if you see this PARTICULAR 5-whoaman pvp group, please terminate with extreme prejudice:

http://youtu.be/PiMLGD0oGVg

M

Ghoulina.2976:

Zenyatoo.4059:

Ghoulina.2976:

LostBalloon.6423:

I never believe to ever say that after the weeks of rivalry with BG starting all the way from the lower tiers, but, props and respect for calling out against your own hackers.

Unlike JQ currently trying to accuse its competition of hacking (on a known issue caused by server lag) when they take the portals laid by hacking mesmers.

Well, I could post things like this thief from October the 8th at 10:59pm EST who was also with a mesmer friend portaling people into the walls of SM, from SoR. Not pointing fingers or anything.

We all have dumb dumbs that do dumb things. Report them and move on. Not like anet does anything about anything. They never have (unless it was a mistake on their own end then they ban over 1000 accounts).

As someone who was there with that thief on teamspeak. He got stuck in the wall, and he couldnt port out because you guys kept putting him into combat. There was no mesmer involved in that situation, and any ports were done by mesmers who had gotten inside during any of the numerous flips SMC went through that they.

There was a a mesmer, it as an uplevel human female with the level 40ish karma gear skin (the skull and horns helm), different guild though, and there was lots of time while we were trying to figure out how to get to him (a group of us were there for a good hour) for him to get out of combat. So sure, he got “stuck” there.

You see how that sounds?

I’ve been glitched through gates due to lag (only twice since pre-launch) and had a friend get stuck underground once. Only time I’ve seen people stuck in walls is from repairs/troll mes portals. I’m not saying it can’t happen, but the reality of someone getting “stuck” in an interior wall in SMC and staying there for ages is unlikely, not utterly impossible, just unlikely.

“So sure, he got “stuck” there. "
Thieves have a shadowstep, smc was flipping constantly, and there were 3 way lagfests going on inside. The idea that someone would get stuck in there isnt far-fetched at all.

Also you can see the damage he has on him because YOU guys kept hitting him. He got stuck, and despite his best efforts it was YOU who kept him there. Not him.

You say its unlikely, but which seems more likely.
A hacker, chooses thief instead of mesmer. Goes inside a wall rather than under the map, and sits there for a half hour while tons of people can look at him, rather than do anything with his hacks. OR, during an incredibly laggy smc flip, a thief got stuck in a wall, and couldnt port out because the enemy server kept putting him into combat?

Uric.3280:

Tarkus.4109:

Keep in mind that calls by only one server to try and institute a 2v1 on another usually backfires in that it kitten es off the people targeted and also makes the second party to want to spite you. We’ll try and show respect if you do – keep the vitriol to the minimum please.

I don’t even.
(Excuse my pr0 ninja paint skills to block out top secret name)

Dat hypocrisy….

Rhaegus.8924:

As i am probably the ele you are referring to here i think i can explain why we ‘run away’ from you instead of fight you.
oPP is a guild build to roam and 1v1 , 2v1 people. PvP players pur sang and you’re good, if not great, at what you do.
[HzH] is a map leading guild, almost 95% of the players you’ll encounter with an [HzH] tag are built to support the guild in open field fights, support and siege warfare. We have roamers, but they are few and far between. The ones we have though, tend to kitten people up in 1v1, i hope you’ll encounter them once, i think it’s going to be a good match.

As for why i tend to ‘run away’, instead of fight an oPP player 1v1. Well, first, i’m a friggin ele…last thing i need to do is 1v1-ing mesmers and thieves :p
Secondly, my entire gear, weaponset, traitset, build…is made to support a guild group in group fights. I know my build, i don’t deal a lot of dmg, but i heal the kitten out of people and make sure my commander is alive and at full health even during the largest fights. Do you honestly want me, a staff ele (even switching to daggers won’t do much for me) with 0 points in fire, and fully geared to heal instead of doing dmg, fight you who are fully decked out to 1v1 people. I don’t see the use in that, to me is it’s as usefull as a can of alcoholfree beer in a bachelorsparty. I honnestly think it makes more sense for me to try to kite you and go help my own guild. And this goes for almost all of our members.
So yeah, you’ll probably see us trying to dodge your guild in order to get to our own, not because we suck, but because we’re simply not sporting the build to 1v1 at that time.

That being said. Few HzH will be able to win from an oPP player in a 1v1. On the other hand, oPP is less likely to capture/defend a keep being defended/assaulted by HzH.
Both guilds have their strengths and weaknesses, no use in chest thumping on forums on how you can use your strong point vs another guilds weak point.

Signed
An [HzH] ele that will always run away from a 1v1.

Ps: To everyone else in this thread……You’re not 2v1-ing us…it’s a delusion….it’s us who are 1v2-ing you.

I know, I was just giving that other HzH guy crap for randomly insulting somebody else. My build isn’t exactly meant for 1v1s either. It’s extremly strong in small group play however. So if a condition/phantasm mesmer fights me (scepter 2 all day), I’m probably going to lose. But if that mesmer finds us in a 3v3 he will probably lose. I still fight those 1v1s though, because I’m a roamer, sometimes even 1v2s if I’m confident vs the classes.

Props to Rydia, he’s a cool guy.

Wow, asking OCX for help Tarkus? Whatever happened to that neverending stream of trash talk about them we heard from you on BG TS?

celeron.3469:

Rhaegus.8924:

As i am probably the ele you are referring to here i think i can explain why we ‘run away’ from you instead of fight you.
oPP is a guild build to roam and 1v1 , 2v1 people. PvP players pur sang and you’re good, if not great, at what you do.
[HzH] is a map leading guild, almost 95% of the players you’ll encounter with an [HzH] tag are built to support the guild in open field fights, support and siege warfare. We have roamers, but they are few and far between. The ones we have though, tend to kitten people up in 1v1, i hope you’ll encounter them once, i think it’s going to be a good match.

As for why i tend to ‘run away’, instead of fight an oPP player 1v1. Well, first, i’m a friggin ele…last thing i need to do is 1v1-ing mesmers and thieves :p
Secondly, my entire gear, weaponset, traitset, build…is made to support a guild group in group fights. I know my build, i don’t deal a lot of dmg, but i heal the kitten out of people and make sure my commander is alive and at full health even during the largest fights. Do you honestly want me, a staff ele (even switching to daggers won’t do much for me) with 0 points in fire, and fully geared to heal instead of doing dmg, fight you who are fully decked out to 1v1 people. I don’t see the use in that, to me is it’s as usefull as a can of alcoholfree beer in a bachelorsparty. I honnestly think it makes more sense for me to try to kite you and go help my own guild. And this goes for almost all of our members.
So yeah, you’ll probably see us trying to dodge your guild in order to get to our own, not because we suck, but because we’re simply not sporting the build to 1v1 at that time.

That being said. Few HzH will be able to win from an oPP player in a 1v1. On the other hand, oPP is less likely to capture/defend a keep being defended/assaulted by HzH.
Both guilds have their strengths and weaknesses, no use in chest thumping on forums on how you can use your strong point vs another guilds weak point.

Signed
An [HzH] ele that will always run away from a 1v1.

Ps: To everyone else in this thread……You’re not 2v1-ing us…it’s a delusion….it’s us who are 1v2-ing you.

I know, I was just giving that other HzH guy crap for randomly insulting somebody else. My build isn’t exactly meant for 1v1s either. It’s extremly strong in small group play however. So if a condition/phantasm mesmer fights me (scepter 2 all day), I’m probably going to lose. But if that mesmer finds us in a 3v3 he will probably lose. I still fight those 1v1s though, because I’m a roamer, sometimes even 1v2s if I’m confident vs the classes.

Props to Rydia, he’s a cool guy.

Lol it is not random at all. I was calling someone out that was trying to rally a 2 v 1 on the official forums as it is pretty clkitten. At least message leaders in game or something….

“Oh, lets work together to keep JQ in third place. JQ is so stronk and they have such an easy season. The least we could do it help SoR win league because we’re so weak and puny.”

- SoR accepts the invitation. They begin to gain a 9k point lead over JQ and only a 1k point lead over BG. BG then realizes they got what they needed of SoR and screws them over approximately 10.315 times. SoR still clueless to all the screwings they’ve undergone ignorantly continue to attack JQ. All of the sudden the weak and puny BG gains the lead over SoR.

To Be Continued…

BG or SoR winning this week, won’t matter, as long as JQ finishes 3rd.

BG and SoR will play for the #1 in a best out of 3 heads-up.

Hammerguard.9834:

“Oh, lets work together to keep JQ in third place. JQ is so stronk and they have such an easy season. The least we could do it help SoR win league because we’re so weak and puny.”

- SoR accepts the invitation. They begin to gain a 9k point lead over JQ and only a 1k point lead over BG. BG then realizes they got what they needed of SoR and screws them over approximately 10.315 times. SoR still clueless to all the screwings they’ve undergone ignorantly continue to attack JQ. All of the sudden the weak and puny BG gains the lead over SoR.

To Be Continued…

You should probably take a break. All this worrying about whether or not you’re getting double teamed cannot be good for your health.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/33/115

I’m writing a fictional novel, good sir. Now if you would please…

PS: It’s not fiction.