Guild Wars 2

Poor Waha isn’t going to happy when he logs in , hope he kept his receipt

We made it past the weekend. Good luck everyone to the rest of the week.

Dear Umberglade Police,

We’re watching you.

Love,
The Godfather – Umberglade Mafia

Shawker.9587:

kitten

He may not be completely right, but week 1 you used SoR for your 2v1 with that crying about the easy schedule JQ has and “everything is already decided, grats JQ #1” and after that you received a strong and large guild in a timezone where none of your contenders bring up an opposing force.
By watching the ppt/stomp on timezone it’s really clear the match will be decided in the weakest timezones and thats when SEA logs off and EU isn’t online.
ZDs is hard to fight outnumbered.

Hickeroar.9734:

Dear Umberglade Police,

We’re watching you.

Love,
The Godfather – Umberglade Mafia

The face of an Asura who doesn’t give a kitten

Windler.4815:

As for BG… Every server knows that they bought the guild (ZD) to be on and to be the strongest server during every NA servers (especially SoR and JQ) weakest timezone to sway league their way. Hence, they knew they needed to go shopping for guilds because JQ and SoR beat them week 40 and JQ beat them horribly week 41 leading up to league.

Everyone knows they organized the 2v1 on JQ. SoR played the hand they were dealt because they knew to get second they had to put JQ in 3rd in the first weed and do it again on the last week of league.

As for JQ, you’re the true winners. JQ, since the beginning of GW2, has been T1. That’s the ultimate compliment, because with guild shifts as frequent for a server the fall can too. SBI, SoS, and many others that have been to T1 can preach to that. JQ has won the most times out of any server. (19-1st, 17-2nd, and 19-3rd=55) The closest one to them is BG (14-11-14=39).

So no matter what JQ, you’re still the true, clear winners even if you don’t get 1st or 2nd over this politically manipulative league season. BG can have that win.

Ahh, the temptation to interpret history to suit your own biases.

1. Every server knows that they bought the guild (ZD) to be on and to be the strongest server during every NA servers (especially SoR and JQ) weakest timezone to sway league their way.

<shrug> While ZDs move to BG has been covered in a large number of threads before, the pertinent point is that JQ have done exactly what you’re accusing BG of. JQ paid MERC’s leadership to move from BG to JQ – a double whammy because JQ were strengthening their PPT while denuding that of their competition (there’s a distinction here with ZDs’ move that should be understood). The PPT results can be seen in the mos results for W41.

Your sense of outrage would be more credible if it was warranted.

2. Everyone knows they organized the 2v1 on JQ. SoR played the hand they were dealt because they knew to get second they had to put JQ in 3rd in the first weed and do it again on the last week of league.

BG also played the hand it was dealt with. The ANet S1 draw was seen to have given JQ an easy run to a win. At the time, there was no other option for either BG or SoR than to focus JQ. You can call this a ‘politically manipulative league’, but there’s a meta to this that actually adds complexity and spice to the matchups. Of course, SoR’s inability to be as competitive as most thought has meant that the ‘easy run’ theory is invalid – BG got as much rest as JQ in those weeks. But the second order effects of it are possibly still relevant. Given the results of the three BGvSoRvOther matches, as well as possible pressure on SoR to retain third place, W7 could see a reverse of the 2v1. This would be rational behaviour on both JQ and SoR’s part.

The situation is more basic but complex than you understand. It just also may produce – no thanks to ANet and depending on this week’s results – a cliff hanger of a finish to Gold League S1.

3. As for JQ, you’re the true winners.

I partially agree. JQ deserves tremendous credit for their resilience and presence over a protracted period of time. My opinion (and I’m probably biased as I was in one of the founding guilds of Titan Alliance) is that HoD’s 30 straight wins on release puts them head and shoulders above what’s been achieved since.

Regardless, I agree that if JQ win, they would be more than worthy of it. It would be a fitting reflection of their long, successful history.

gebrechen.5643:

Shawker.9587:

kitten

By watching the ppt/stomp on timezone it’s really clear the match will be decided in the weakest timezones and thats when OCX logs off and EU isn’t online.
FOO is hard to fight outnumbered.

Couple changes and you just described every JQ gold medal and all the forum qq following.
/ironic

This matchup gets sweeter and sweeter. Love it

we’ll get you BG, just you wait!

Cuddlepie.8109:

Ahh, the temptation to interpret history to suit your own biases.

1. Every server knows that they bought the guild (ZD) to be on and to be the strongest server during every NA servers (especially SoR and JQ) weakest timezone to sway league their way.

<shrug> While ZDs move to BG has been covered in a large number of threads before, the pertinent point is that JQ have done exactly what you’re accusing BG of. JQ paid MERC’s leadership to move from BG to JQ – a double whammy because JQ were strengthening their PPT while denuding that of their competition (there’s a distinction here with ZDs’ move that should be understood). The PPT results can be seen in the mos results for W41.

Did you not play oceanic at all on BG and see how many guilds played on JQ at that time? They had none as TKG is technically SEA from the hours that they play (~8pm oceanic). BG recruited more oceanic to counter SoRs OC, which was composed of late NA nightowls, HIRE (who could run a queue zerg themselves) and OCX/TSYM/GC/early SEA. Back then it was justified, now it is not – with OCX going more to the PvE spectrum of PvX and HIRE reforming; us moving meant that we were no longer getting 450+ ppt in oceanic which wasn’t fun for us at all. I get that you’re kitten ed that we moved, but seriously if we wanted to PvE we’d all be playing hello kitty online.

The week before leagues was kinda irrelevant considering it was admitted by a lot of commanders from BG via tells and on this forums that they were taking a break that week. Also in regards to the leadership being paid, well thats kinda misleading; we were given 40-50 gold per core member after after we transferred from our own funds (~110 gold). Moving was because we were dying on server, and I’ve told you this multiple times but you keep on whipping an imaginary dead horse over and over again.

I give ZDs props for being solid on field, but our sitations are not comparable – more similar to legends never [DIE] where thier main motivator was being able to play the freaking game as a guild. Where we differ is that we might not have had a guild much longer if we had stayed.

Hats off to all the enemies we faced today/tonight in EU and NA prime. Fun fights and lots of good ole ninja ops to be had in JQ bl.. DA that SE tower fight with like 5 on 5 was fun as hell! Maybe it was like 5 on 8 in our favor i had 2 pugs on me. but yall had the keep lord. anyways well played guys! Here’s to a strong finish!

And Hi TKG!

Tarkus.4109:

Cuddlepie.8109:

Ahh, the temptation to interpret history to suit your own biases.

1. Every server knows that they bought the guild (ZD) to be on and to be the strongest server during every NA servers (especially SoR and JQ) weakest timezone to sway league their way.

<shrug> While ZDs move to BG has been covered in a large number of threads before, the pertinent point is that JQ have done exactly what you’re accusing BG of. JQ paid MERC’s leadership to move from BG to JQ – a double whammy because JQ were strengthening their PPT while denuding that of their competition (there’s a distinction here with ZDs’ move that should be understood). The PPT results can be seen in the mos results for W41.

Did you not play oceanic at all on BG and see how many guilds played on JQ at that time? They had none as TKG is technically SEA from the hours that they play (~8pm oceanic). BG recruited more oceanic to counter SoRs OC, which was composed of late NA nightowls, HIRE (who could run a queue zerg themselves) and OCX/TSYM/GC/early SEA. Back then it was justified, now it is not – with OCX going more to the PvE spectrum of PvX and HIRE reforming; us moving meant that we were no longer getting 450+ ppt in oceanic which wasn’t fun for us at all. I get that you’re kitten ed that we moved, but seriously if we wanted to PvE we’d all be playing hello kitty online.

The week before leagues was kinda irrelevant considering it was admitted by a lot of commanders from BG via tells and on this forums that they were taking a break that week. Also in regards to the leadership being paid, well thats kinda misleading; we were given 40-50 gold per core member after after we transferred from our own funds (~110 gold). Moving was because we were dying on server, and I’ve told you this multiple times but you keep on whipping an imaginary dead horse over and over again.

Why you so madTarkus ? It’s your server mates that keep bringing up ZD. You broke our heart but we learned to move on and love again

I congratulate JQ on playing in T1 “virtually” every week since launch, a fantastic effort by all those who were on JQ at any stage during the achievement.

The vitriol between servers regarding who recruited who is fairly pointless, please just keep turning out to WvW and bringing the fun.

See you out there!

Gilgamesh.7364:

Avster.1935:

This matchup gets sweeter and sweeter. Love it

we’ll get you BG, just you wait!

BG hasn’t even started playing hard yet, they usually get stronger on the weekdays.

You say it like I’ve we have never faced BG before. Been there, done that, got bags.

Darkjoy.3092:

Why you so madTarkus ? It’s your server mates that keep bringing up ZD. You broke our heart but we learned to move on and love again

Clarifying is not being mad, I personally don’t give much weight to the current situation because I play for the challenge – getting our kitten kicked in by zone blobs in our weakest time is still better than the t2 hell we’ve been in the last month. We got some good fights with ZDs and ND last night where we wiped them just as often as they did us and thats all I really care about in the game, the eventual outcome of the match-up is secondary to doing your best – if its not enough thats fine.

gebrechen.5643:

Shawker.9587:

kitten

He may not be completely right, but week 1 you used SoR for your 2v1 with that crying about the easy schedule JQ has and “everything is already decided, grats JQ #1” and after that you received a strong and large guild in a timezone where none of your contenders bring up an opposing force.
By watching the ppt/stomp on timezone it’s really clear the match will be decided in the weakest timezones and thats when SEA logs off and EU isn’t online.
ZDs is hard to fight outnumbered.

I’m not even trying to say that this guy is right or wrong, but when you point the finger in the nose of another server making accusations about something every server does or did at some point and talking about true winners I can not think of anything else a baby crying lol.

Winning the season is nice, ok!, but its just like a bonus for who wins, nothing more.

Weeks like this one is the real reward, its what makes me keep playing this game yet, not a title or finish or any kind of bullkitten like that but it is obvious that not everyone plays by the same reason: FUN

I have sure many ppl are having lots fun in the field and its very nice to see happenning.

Gilgamesh.7364:

Avster.1935:

This matchup gets sweeter and sweeter. Love it

we’ll get you BG, just you wait!

BG hasn’t even started playing hard yet, they usually get stronger on the weekdays.

That is what the rabbit said to the turtle

Had a lot of fun skirmishes with DA tonight! Look forward to fighting you guys again, was a blast!

- [FA]

Gilgamesh.7364:

BG hasn’t even started playing hard yet, they usually get stronger on the weekdays.

Why? Is it because they master the PVD during weekdays when everyone have to go to work, school, etc?

SleepingDragon.1596:

Gilgamesh.7364:

BG hasn’t even started playing hard yet, they usually get stronger on the weekdays.

Why? Is it because they master the PVD during weekdays when everyone have to go to work, school, etc?

Yeah. It’s easier that way.

Tarkus.4109:

Did you not play oceanic at all on BG and see how many guilds played on JQ at that time? They had none as TKG is technically SEA from the hours that they play (~8pm oceanic). BG recruited more oceanic to counter SoRs OC, which was composed of late NA nightowls, HIRE (who could run a queue zerg themselves) and OCX/TSYM/GC/early SEA. Back then it was justified, now it is not – with OCX going more to the PvE spectrum of PvX and HIRE reforming; us moving meant that we were no longer getting 450+ ppt in oceanic which wasn’t fun for us at all. I get that you’re kitten ed that we moved, but seriously if we wanted to PvE we’d all be playing hello kitty online.

The week before leagues was kinda irrelevant considering it was admitted by a lot of commanders from BG via tells and on this forums that they were taking a break that week. Also in regards to the leadership being paid, well thats kinda misleading; we were given 40-50 gold per core member after after we transferred from our own funds (~110 gold). Moving was because we were dying on server, and I’ve told you this multiple times but you keep on whipping an imaginary dead horse over and over again.

I give ZDs props for being solid on field, but our sitations are not comparable – more similar to legends never [DIE] where thier main motivator was being able to play the freaking game as a guild. Where we differ is that we might not have had a guild much longer if we had stayed.

OK, facts time:

1. Did you not play oceanic at all on BG and see how many guilds played on JQ at that time?

You know the answer to that question. I played Oceanic from the beginnings of TA, through the time you were in the original [DiE] and I helped Mooon train you as a commander, to the present. In a small way, I’ve helped to rebuild BG’s Oceanic community while you were enjoyed ticking 500+ on your new server.

2. I get that you’re kitten ed that we moved. Actually, all I was doing was pointing out that if BG did pay ZD then JQ certainly did the same by paying you. My argument wasn’t a criticism of you nor MERC nor JQ, it was a statement of fact providing a precedent.

I understand that you’re sensitive to perceived criticism, but regardless of any regret on your part over what you said about the MERC who stayed on BG, there’s not necessarily an accusation behind every corner.

If, however, you pick at your scabs they bleed.

3. Moving was because we were dying on server, and I’ve told you this multiple times but you keep on whipping an imaginary dead horse over and over again.

You’ve told me a number of different things about why you moved, including that you didn’t want to but Ralikh made you. I’ll point out, again, that I didn’t criticise MERC moving … I stated it as a fact using neutral language. I’m sorry if this upsets you.

4. I give ZDs props for being solid on field, but our sitations are not comparable.

Agreed. There’s a world of difference.

BTW, if you take time to digest my post, you’ll see that it’s complementary of JQ and their achievements. I’m perplexed why don’t see yourself as part of that community?

Darkjoy.3092:

Couple changes and you just described every JQ gold medal and all the forum qq following.
/ironic

You mean no other server has a SEA force? Yeah, Foo has large numbers and great commanders but they play normal SEA time and except for some of the first matches after GW2 started there were guilds like WM which could field ~even numbers and other SEA guilds on SoR, BG, SoS, SBI.
The ZDs timezone is not covered at all, even RG played EU time because many of their players were GMT+2 and not GMT+3-4.

The problem with timezones is that a gap from 1-2 hours decides matches. That’s the main problem on the big three.
Maybe you should lookup the history of your server.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/66060-the-fate-of-blackgate/page__hl__blackgate#entry1993750

and of course:

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/78435-blackgate-server-need-you-naeuoceanic/page__hl__blackgate

So, now remember that this recruitment thread brought you more SEA coverage, while having the best OCX and EU coverage at the given time.

None of the big three should have those gaps, but they always existed. JQ never had huge OCX or EU over a longer period. SoR solved the EU problem by recruiting IRON and could fight your EU, but they lack coverage in at least two other timezones. Meanwhile BG didn’t show up in the last week before the season and called out “that JQ is even more stacked”. That lie worked until week 2, when you totally rolled SoR with your server finally showing up in full force and bringing ZDs to close the last possible hole in your gap.

I’m really looking forward to season 2 and hoping ZDs is joining SoR or SoS or TC and we will see what happens.

gebrechen.5643:

Darkjoy.3092:

Couple changes and you just described every JQ gold medal and all the forum qq following.
/ironic

You mean no other server has a SEA force? Yeah, Foo has large numbers and great commanders but they play normal SEA time and except for some of the first matches after GW2 started there were guilds like WM which could field ~even numbers and other SEA guilds on SoR, BG, SoS, SBI.
The ZDs timezone is not covered at all, even RG played EU time because many of their players were GMT+2 and not GMT+3-4.

The problem with timezones is that a gap from 1-2 hours decides matches. That’s the main problem on the big three.
Maybe you should lookup the history of your server.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/66060-the-fate-of-blackgate/page__hl__blackgate#entry1993750

and of course:

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/78435-blackgate-server-need-you-naeuoceanic/page__hl__blackgate

So, now remember that this recruitment thread brought you more SEA coverage, while having the best OCX and EU coverage at the given time.

None of the big three should have those gaps, but they always existed. JQ never had huge OCX or EU over a longer period. SoR solved the EU problem by recruiting IRON and could fight your EU, but they lack coverage in at least two other timezones. Meanwhile BG didn’t show up in the last week before the season and called out “that JQ is even more stacked”. That lie worked until week 2, when you totally rolled SoR with your server finally showing up in full force and bringing ZDs to close the last possible hole in your gap.

I’m really looking forward to season 2 and hoping ZDs is joining SoR or SoS or TC and we will see what happens.

Are you KeeZee’s Brother ?

The you cry is the same way he has been doing ….

gebrechen.5643:

Darkjoy.3092:

Couple changes and you just described every JQ gold medal and all the forum qq following.
/ironic

You mean no other server has a SEA force? Yeah, Foo has large numbers and great commanders but they play normal SEA time and except for some of the first matches after GW2 started there were guilds like WM which could field ~even numbers and other SEA guilds on SoR, BG, SoS, SBI.
The ZDs timezone is not covered at all, even RG played EU time because many of their players were GMT+2 and not GMT+3-4.

The problem with timezones is that a gap from 1-2 hours decides matches. That’s the main problem on the big three.
Maybe you should lookup the history of your server.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/66060-the-fate-of-blackgate/page__hl__blackgate#entry1993750

and of course:

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/78435-blackgate-server-need-you-naeuoceanic/page__hl__blackgate

So, now remember that this recruitment thread brought you more SEA coverage, while having the best OCX and EU coverage at the given time.

None of the big three should have those gaps, but they always existed. JQ never had huge OCX or EU over a longer period. SoR solved the EU problem by recruiting IRON and could fight your EU, but they lack coverage in at least two other timezones. Meanwhile BG didn’t show up in the last week before the season and called out “that JQ is even more stacked”. That lie worked until week 2, when you totally rolled SoR with your server finally showing up in full force and bringing ZDs to close the last possible hole in your gap.

I’m really looking forward to season 2 and hoping ZDs is joining SoR or SoS or TC and we will see what happens.

I was actually on Bg playing when FOO use to PVD 500+ ZD’s time zone. I don’t need to Google my memories

gebrechen.5643:

I’m really looking forward to season 2 and hoping ZDs is joining SoR or SoS or TC and we will see what happens.

Relax. ZDs aren’t cheap server hopping guild you normally know. They are dedicated bunch of people who play for the server. They paid well over 2k gold to help recruit guilds to SFR, including a BG NA guild. I guess they transferred due to very long queues (2 hour++) even in their playtime at SFR due to pugs bandwagon.

IMHO they probably will transfer back to SFR if the queue over there reduces rather than go to any other servers.

And about the matchup – JS has some great guilds in SEA time pushing BG hard. Especially EBG JS zerg yesterday farmed us for 4+ hours in SMC. Props to that commander who was able to control the pugs well. We had a huge suspicion that JS is spying our tag. So all the commanders in the map tagged up to confuse the ‘spy’ and take SM at last.

Did you guys really spy?

P.S- I am not in ZDs guild. Just a poor SFR→BG transferred soul looking to get into WvW with less than 1 hour queue

Thanks to the folks @ REND

http://i.imgur.com/wyz6Q7y.jpg

I was wondering if , possibly, “accidentaly” this ele glitched into a tower…….

SFShinigami.2015:

Darknicrofia.2604:

SFShinigami.2015:

Darknicrofia.2604:

SFShinigami.2015:

Hexin.5603:

Why does it feel like … “This thread violates my game mode” all over again.

Okay I’ll play …

infracted

infracted huh

Cuddles

:D

punted

shifty

this seems familiar

vuvuzela

Soccer

Also, I would LOVE to be able to google memories.

Quidditch O_O

SFShinigami.2015:

Darknicrofia.2604:

SFShinigami.2015:

Darknicrofia.2604:

SFShinigami.2015:

Hexin.5603:

Why does it feel like … “This thread violates my game mode” all over again.

Okay I’ll play …

infracted

infracted huh

Cuddles

:D

punted

shifty

this seems familiar

vuvuzela

Soccer

Also, I would LOVE to be able to google memories.

tower

Wonder if it still lives? That tower………… so the score super close? Stuck at work!

^ my friend its JQ, Ha! Missing JADE SEA much?
which bg na guild transferred to SFR? is this like a exchange guild type of thing between bg and sfr?

sielfiel.4692:

^ my friend its JQ, Ha! Missing JADE SEA much?
which bg na guild transferred to SFR? is this like a exchange guild type of thing between bg and sfr?

yeah we gave them RICH. it was a good deal though.

Hockey.2417:

I was wondering if , possibly, “accidentaly” this ele glitched into a tower…….

that dude was high. see the guild tag.

Windler.4815:

Agg and SoS do not care about ppt. They haven’t this whole time during league. They’ve known that they’re not going to place, so they’d rather have good fights where they can find them.

TC and SoS has always put good fights on the table whatever tier they’ve been in. However, SoS just couldn’t keep the coverage during their variable rise and fall to T1.

Mag, kitten on them. They’re the biggest trash talkers and can’t back it up.

As for BG… Every server knows that they bought the guild (ZD) to be on and to be the strongest server during every NA servers (especially SoR and JQ) weakest timezone to sway league their way. Hence, they knew they needed to go shopping for guilds because JQ and SoR beat them week 40 and JQ beat them horribly week 41 leading up to league.

Everyone knows they organized the 2v1 on JQ. SoR played the hand they were dealt because they knew to get second they had to put JQ in 3rd in the first weed and do it again on the last week of league.

As for JQ, you’re the true winners. JQ, since the beginning of GW2, has been T1. That’s the ultimate compliment, because with guild shifts as frequent for a server the fall can too. SBI, SoS, and many others that have been to T1 can preach to that. JQ has won the most times out of any server. (19-1st, 17-2nd, and 19-3rd=55) The closest one to them is BG (14-11-14=39).

So no matter what JQ, you’re still the true, clear winners even if you don’t get 1st or 2nd over this politically manipulative league season. BG can have that win.

I like the part where you claim JQ as the t1 server since the start… when in fact the t1 servers at the start of the game were Henge, Isles of janthir, and stormbluff. May want to research a bit more before making praises to a server that only advanced to t1 after guilds abandoned henge of denravi to balance the fights.

As for the constant remarks about BG buying a guild… its common knowledge that JQ bought guilds in the past. They just did not buy a guild to the extent of ZDs. Not only is BG more efficient at PvE and WvW, were also better investors as well

Great fights in SoS BL all night. Thanks for the lootbags JQ and BG >:D.

Sound like JQ got 80man blobs in all 4BL everyday during SEA time. So BG can’t fight JQ at all. I wonder why our JQ sea prime is only 300ppt v BG 260-280ppt since JQ dominating during SEA timezone. While BG EU hour pushing at 500ppt

sielfiel.4692:

^ my friend its JQ, Ha! Missing JADE SEA much?
which bg na guild transferred to SFR? is this like a exchange guild type of thing between bg and sfr?

Hell yeah I miss Jade Sea lol. Thanks for the heads-up!

No links between the two servers as far as I know. But yeah there were controversies on RICH guild transfer in SFR due to the fact that they didn’t make much of an effect on ppt (the reason why they were transferred).
But surely ZDs got much better reception in BG than RICH ever got from SFR imo.

So my initial question still lingers, did ‘JQ’ had to spy on BG in EBG in their ‘strong’ SEA timing to wipe us?

Fury.6281:

Windler.4815:

Agg and SoS do not care about ppt. They haven’t this whole time during league. They’ve known that they’re not going to place, so they’d rather have good fights where they can find them.

TC and SoS has always put good fights on the table whatever tier they’ve been in. However, SoS just couldn’t keep the coverage during their variable rise and fall to T1.

Mag, kitten on them. They’re the biggest trash talkers and can’t back it up.

As for BG… Every server knows that they bought the guild (ZD) to be on and to be the strongest server during every NA servers (especially SoR and JQ) weakest timezone to sway league their way. Hence, they knew they needed to go shopping for guilds because JQ and SoR beat them week 40 and JQ beat them horribly week 41 leading up to league.

Everyone knows they organized the 2v1 on JQ. SoR played the hand they were dealt because they knew to get second they had to put JQ in 3rd in the first weed and do it again on the last week of league.

As for JQ, you’re the true winners. JQ, since the beginning of GW2, has been T1. That’s the ultimate compliment, because with guild shifts as frequent for a server the fall can too. SBI, SoS, and many others that have been to T1 can preach to that. JQ has won the most times out of any server. (19-1st, 17-2nd, and 19-3rd=55) The closest one to them is BG (14-11-14=39).

So no matter what JQ, you’re still the true, clear winners even if you don’t get 1st or 2nd over this politically manipulative league season. BG can have that win.

I like the part where you claim JQ as the t1 server since the start… when in fact the t1 servers at the start of the game were Henge, Isles of janthir, and stormbluff. May want to research a bit more before making praises to a server that only advanced to t1 after guilds abandoned henge of denravi to balance the fights.

As for the constant remarks about BG buying a guild… its common knowledge that JQ bought guilds in the past. They just did not buy a guild to the extent of ZDs. Not only is BG more efficient at PvE and WvW, were also better investors as well

Umm.. i think you got the wrong info sir. IoJ once hit T1. But it’s always been HoD/SBI/JQ till TA disperse.

CuddleStrike.8215:

SFShinigami.2015:

Darknicrofia.2604:

SFShinigami.2015:

Darknicrofia.2604:

SFShinigami.2015:

Hexin.5603:

Why does it feel like … “This thread violates my game mode” all over again.

Okay I’ll play …

infracted

infracted huh

Cuddles

:D

punted

shifty

this seems familiar

vuvuzela

Soccer

Also, I would LOVE to be able to google memories.

tower

Wonder if it still lives? That tower………… so the score super close? Stuck at work!

Naw it fell during EU.

Love

elkirin.8534:

Each person reacts differently to “interesting” forum posts, for mine, I laughed and then spent the night flipping green camps red for the tick any BL I could manage it.

meh I have no idea if I even made a 100 ppt difference over the 4-5 hrs but I enjoyed it… some good skirmishes from both BG and JQ WvW ers

Bring it whichever way you choose, WvW is the game for me.

See you on the battlefields.

Dubain

DUBAINNNNNNNNNN <3

WHERE YOU BEEN BRO?

:D

sazaw.1347:

Umm.. i think you got the wrong info sir. IoJ once hit T1. But it’s always been HoD/SBI/JQ till TA disperse.

I’m impressed at how often people forget NSP/ET…

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

What even happened in the other thread, lol? It wasn’t nearly as bad as last weeks.

Yea, my thoughts exactly! Mods enjoy reading mag’s masterpiece trolling so they didn’t delete it :P

Fuzzion.2504:

Gilgamesh.7364:

Avster.1935:

This matchup gets sweeter and sweeter. Love it

we’ll get you BG, just you wait!

BG hasn’t even started playing hard yet, they usually get stronger on the weekdays.

That is what the rabbit said to the turtle

You do know the Turtle is BG right?

Also laff at the “BG playing politics better” card :P

>>> Lies to TKG to get them to move to JQ
>>> Pays basically full transfer of half of [MERC]
>>> Pays transfer of [GD] >>> GD gets bored moves back to EU
>>> Buys all of TC’s SEA coverage
>>> Attempts to buy Never Die [ND] >>> ND tells JQ to f-off
>>> ZDs moves to BG, BG community surprised offers to help supplement their members, pays maybe 1/3 of the cost if that through sudden fundraising. > buys guilds and suddenly is buygate.

Please tell me again about our Warchest and politics, to me conning/buying another servers guilds is more politics than BG has ever done.

Xeeron.9254:

You did a good job sieging it up. I was the JQ commander there during that time, and it sure was annoying to break in, clear all your siege, and then, 30 minutes later, there are 2 trebs and 5 ACs up again at all doors. Not to mention that trying to take hills against superior numbers sucks in general … Looking for Queue … :-/

Well, we finally took it, hope our NA can return the favor by sieging up BL garrison ;-)

I wasn’t on BG BL … I was on JQ BL. It certainly wasn’t me putting up 2 Trebs and 5 ACs at all doors either. It takes 2 minutes to make one supply run – that’s assuming we hold Foghaven / Redwater; if not it’s an even longer run to Hero’s Lodge – so after 30 minutes I would have slightly more than 150 supply (since I have supply mastery), enough for 5 superior ACs but definitely not 4 Trebs and 10 ACs.

BG may not be fully queued 24/7, but we certainly are more often than not. If I log on and find there’s no queue, I’m generally pleasantly surprised. So far this week, it’s only happened once.

Perfectblue.6409:

gebrechen.5643:

I’m really looking forward to season 2 and hoping ZDs is joining SoR or SoS or TC and we will see what happens.

Relax. ZDs aren’t cheap server hopping guild you normally know. They are dedicated bunch of people who play for the server. They paid well over 2k gold to help recruit guilds to SFR, including a BG NA guild. I guess they transferred due to very long queues (2 hour++) even in their playtime at SFR due to pugs bandwagon.

IMHO they probably will transfer back to SFR if the queue over there reduces rather than go to any other servers.

And about the matchup – JS has some great guilds in SEA time pushing BG hard. Especially EBG JS zerg yesterday farmed us for 4+ hours in SMC. Props to that commander who was able to control the pugs well. We had a huge suspicion that JS is spying our tag. So all the commanders in the map tagged up to confuse the ‘spy’ and take SM at last.

Did you guys really spy?

P.S- I am not in ZDs guild. Just a poor SFR->BG transferred soul looking to get into WvW with less than 1 hour queue

BG are fighting Jade Quarry this week (JQ) and not Jade Sea (JS). I thought you might like to know that. I appreciate it can get confusing…….

Do the winners of silver league get a silver dolyak?

Seigfried.5938:

Do the winners of silver league get a silver dolyak?

Still more relevant to this thread than anything I’ve posted.

Fury.6281:

I like the part where you claim JQ as the t1 server since the start… when in fact the t1 servers at the start of the game were Henge, Isles of janthir, and stormbluff. May want to research a bit more before making praises to a server that only advanced to t1 after guilds abandoned henge of denravi to balance the fights.

I think it is you who need to learn some history. The truth is out there, off you go and find it. I have been on JQ since beta so I think I can talk with some weight and know my servers placings.

The HoD stuff while fun I really don’t count. 30 straight wins mostly in a much shorter game format that was over in 2 months while impressive and they were no doubt does not really compare to over 1 year of sustain.

Perfectblue.6409:

So my initial question still lingers, did ‘JQ’ had to spy on BG in EBG in their ‘strong’ SEA timing to wipe us?

Not that I am aware of. We often wonder the same of certain other servers when its clear they know where our pins are but most times we put it down to good scouting

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

sazaw.1347:

Umm.. i think you got the wrong info sir. IoJ once hit T1. But it’s always been HoD/SBI/JQ till TA disperse.

I’m impressed at how often people forget NSP/ET…

We don’t forget them but they were forgettable. The whole NSP→ ET server switch did not help them and they had even less sustain than HoD. They can at least beat TA in one regard, that NSP/ET alliance gutted two server communities whereas TA just did one.

MagiKarp.8201:

Also laff at the “BG playing politics better” card :P

>>> Lies to TKG to get them to move to JQ
>>> Pays basically full transfer of half of [MERC]
>>> Pays transfer of [GD] >>> GD gets bored moves back to EU
>>> Buys all of TC’s SEA coverage
>>> Attempts to buy Never Die [ND] >>> ND tells JQ to f-off
>>> ZDs moves to BG, BG community surprised offers to help supplement their members, pays maybe 1/3 of the cost if that through sudden fundraising. > buys guilds and suddenly is buygate.

Please tell me again about our Warchest and politics, to me conning/buying another servers guilds is more politics than BG has ever done.

MagiKarp, no one ever said that you were involved in the BG playing better politics so don’t take it personally. Obviously if you were involved there it would be great for BG opponents I am sure…..

I give you exhibit A above…