Guild Wars 2

Vin.7514:

It’s fun seeing SFR saying piken only attack them, because when vizunah control SM and piken and vizunah fight somewhere and there would be opportunity to take SM from vz instead taking it SFR runs to cap anza and mendon.

Here is some stats of how long each server hold Stonemist.

PS, 2d 5h 17m
Vizunah, 2d 16h 27m
SFR, 0d 16h 38m

Piken hold it over 3 times longer and vizunah 4 times than SFR, because SFR rather focus on Piken and cap Anza and Mendon instead of going for SM, so they have missed lot of good opportunities to cap SM.

Also in this match-up
number of times SFR asked to double team against VZ: 1
number of times VZ asked to double team against SFR: 0

Anyways carry on finding more excuses, some of these are hilarious to read.

You know watt is hilarious? It’s seeing PS running to SM, don’t you even know that when you have paper towers the best thing it’s not to have SM, because the upgrades will take longer?

My god you guys a relay bad in EB map, your comments just show it.

For the last time it’s no need any kind of agreement to have double team. If Piken had chosen VS to attack they will be double teamed, in the past this had happen to us and to VS. This spoils the fun of the game even if you get the benefits from hit, that’s watt I felt in the past. For Piken it’s a victory to come in front from SFR, nothing new, I have seen Deso and Elona doing the same.

SFR got wins in the past in situations like this one now, VS has done the same.

The core players from SFR don’t cry about anything, we have tried our best to win the match = be first. No stress, no excuses. We simple have to do better in the future, and I think that we will do it.

I see many good things happening now in SFR, yes I’m a little sad because we are not going to achieve our goal, but we must look to the future, and work for a better one.

You refer something here very import, contacts to double team the other server. If that it’s true those people really deserve a ban. It’s very hard to prove anything I think, but still remain something that I really hate, for me it’s like cheating. If I know my server does that, I simply will not play. If you have any kind of proof please send it to Anet, you are doing a favour to all WWW players.

@Troma
Please stop feeding the trolls/ignorant, this isn’t funny. Someone already post the info about the number of times Piken had flipped Durios (the weakest tower in Blue map), the number? A ridiculous 6.

stjf.7180:

It’s been an interesting week, coming from a SFR member. We’ve certainly lost, so kudos to PS and VS for that. I’m not going to cry conspiracy, there certainly has been a lot of pressure put on us but that’s just shrewd strategic thinking from PS and VS commanders.

What’s really shown up for me this week is how broken the SFR community seems to be. We get a bit of pressure from the other servers, have a bad week as all servers do, and suddenly fingers start pointing. I’ve seen so many people blame pve achievement hunters for our failure – I’ve never seen another server complain of more people getting involved. Certainly VS for one seem to have the right idea, get them involved. I’ve never seen such well coordinated or large groups as those from VS, and the only way that happens is through involving all players from the hardcore wvw to the achievement hunting pve.

I’ve had some fun in small groups this week, especially on Tuesday morning where a small group of us fought bravely against huge VS numbers and came out with some victories. Frankly, though, I feel that the SFR community is broken beyond repair to the stage that I’m now looking for another server.

Funniest part is that players who actually try force some community thing are first ones who flee. Make guild, go fight and communicate other guilds maybe even PUGs. It’s just so simple.

thiste.2845:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

look for a comment from someone that matters from VS side saying that

If you treat people like that on your own server no wonder no one wants to follow you.

@Kingface.
HEEEEEELP.
Au socour?

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

Please stop feeding the trolls/ignorant, this isn’t funny. Someone already post the info about the number of times Piken had flipped Durios (the weakest tower in Blue map), the number? A ridiculous 6.

But do you have the info about how many time they tried it and have been succesfuly repelled ?

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

thiste.2845:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

look for a comment from someone that matters from VS side saying that

If you treat people like that on your own server no wonder no one wants to follow you.

@Kingface.
HEEEEEELP.
Au socour?

Thought you were mighty…

romainette.2369:

to sfr :
-we have huge waiting lists on vizunah (monday more than 4 hours on piken and i did not manage to get in . so same as you

Nope, not the same, SFR/Piken don’t have queues late past midnight, when Viz is winning the matchup. What is your point?

Of course you need to double team national server if you wanna win. Piken didn’t win because they double teamed wrong server.

12 pages later, still people crying about an imaginary double-team thing.

Junkpile.7439:

Of course you need to double team national server if you wanna win. Piken didn’t win because they double teamed wrong server.

National Servers only have a Advantage during holidays, all other times International Servers have the Advantage – at least in the first 12 ranked Servers.

National server is like one big guild. Can’t lose without slacking.

I’m going just to drop this here
SFR as Loki

Well Piken i guess you are pretty piissed because we sneaked your garri with 15 ppl (nobody thought that kitten would work xD)
but now you get the revenge in bay^^

and btw i’m rly surprised that Piken copied vizunahs “place-ac-everywhere-we-go”-Tactic … where is the old Spirit like “we are only playing for good fights” ?
Taken by the Que warriors?

Entenkommando.5208:

and btw i’m rly surprised that Piken copied vizunahs “place-ac-everywhere-we-go”-Tactic … where is the old Spirit like “we are only playing for good fights” ?
Taken by the Que warriors?

taken by skill lag ?

srsly i liked roaming around alone with my guardian and fighting small scale, but now…i cant rly get bothered with it anymore if 80% of the time the only key that works is 1 ^^
so i just chill in a tower or run with a zerg ^^

Entenkommando.5208:

Well Piken i guess you are pretty piissed because we sneaked your garri with 15 ppl (nobody thought that kitten would work xD)
but now you get the revenge in bay^^

Sometimes there is 1 or 2 players who mourn over lost keep, but most Pikens don’t care. In few hours most Pikens will go to sleep and it doesn’t matter if we have whole map T3, but instead defending it whole night players go to sleep and if its lost we start rebuilding it in the morning. I think if there was any stat of servers that have lost most T3 because there wasn’t any defenders that Piken would be quite high on that list.

Anyways, well played and its always satisfying to pull off such sneak attack.

But still you can only blame ANet for not doing anything…

Everyone that participated in viz garri fight yesterday will know…
2 hours mapwide lags, Dollys took like 10x longer because they stood still, a tower we capped took 2(!) minutes to take with a constantly clear circle and Stargrove which i tried to upgrade had 11-12 minutes buff.

Thank you ANet for making WvW unplayable

I don’t care about waiting 1hour in que, imagined double teaming (which just means bags from 2 sides) if i could play in wvw….
I especially hate that guilds can almost do nothing because they are almost always wiped by autoattack-lololol-roflstomp-blobs and can’t cast anything…

Junkpile.7439:

stjf.7180:

It’s been an interesting week, coming from a SFR member. We’ve certainly lost, so kudos to PS and VS for that. I’m not going to cry conspiracy, there certainly has been a lot of pressure put on us but that’s just shrewd strategic thinking from PS and VS commanders.

What’s really shown up for me this week is how broken the SFR community seems to be. We get a bit of pressure from the other servers, have a bad week as all servers do, and suddenly fingers start pointing. I’ve seen so many people blame pve achievement hunters for our failure – I’ve never seen another server complain of more people getting involved. Certainly VS for one seem to have the right idea, get them involved. I’ve never seen such well coordinated or large groups as those from VS, and the only way that happens is through involving all players from the hardcore wvw to the achievement hunting pve.

I’ve had some fun in small groups this week, especially on Tuesday morning where a small group of us fought bravely against huge VS numbers and came out with some victories. Frankly, though, I feel that the SFR community is broken beyond repair to the stage that I’m now looking for another server.

Funniest part is that players who actually try force some community thing are first ones who flee. Make guild, go fight and communicate other guilds maybe even PUGs. It’s just so simple.

I have a guild and we do try and fight. Most of my members have now given up on wvw though, not because of the losing, but because of the attitude of other players. I have tried communicating with other guilds, but generally they haven’t wanted to know when I offer a cross-guild partnership to coordinate together. We seem to have a real problem with guild elitism on SFR, which fosters the kind of divisive community spirit that ruins the server for me.

Its left me with the only option of trying to get random PUGs into a group to fight, but that’s difficult even when you’re not against the finely tuned fighting machine of VS. I enjoy it, but its not going to get us victories against our current rivals.

lmcvann.4781:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268

With 3 sides its normal that 2 sides attack one, WATT IT’S NOT NORMAL IT’S THAT PIKEN ALLWAYS ATTACK SFR.

PS have attacked SFR 67% of the time
SFR have attacked PS 72% of the time

So you could say: WATT IT’S NOT NORMAL IT’S THAT SFR ALLWAYS ATTACK PIKEN.

as SFR are doing it the most

can you give any hard evidence on your numbers please?

also, me looking back on the week:

boring, loads of queue, loads of QQ on the forums, loads of blobs and not much solo roaming guild groups, not to forget the lagg (most likely caused by the blobs)

SFR, mind me ask you to please act a bit adult on the forums, stuff like the post up here (the quote) make me feel like bashing my head against a wall.

nice reset by SFR of VS garri. I thought it was impossible.

DarkieDuck.9521:

Illogical.6218:

Fact is also that SFR is an easy target this match-up, which is why they get targeted most
Reason why most of Piken’s caps are on SFR side?
Cuz Vizunah know how to defend a tower/keep, they have dedicated scouts standing behind doors with trebs at all times

For the last months SFR had the same, dedicated scouts on a treb behind each gate.
But you know were those scouts are now? Yup fighting the queue boss!
Kinda sad if u think about it, people beeing scouting for months for the server only to be stuck in a queue, GG AP

Well Vizunah has no dedicated scout, anyone on vocal can take a shift. I’m in no guild (well except IRLs) and I still scout 1/4 of my WvW time (not including the enemy bus-sticking if I solo roam).
Anyone can do it. Vizunah leaders worked a lot on scouting duty awareness.

BTW the heavy-AC defense is known here as a “german bunker”, due to Elona’s, IIRC.
(And the whole french saying about opinions and kittens states that everyone has one, both smell. And educated people know not to shove it in people’s face.)

Wow,
atm i just pull 35+ SFR on Stargrove (VZ BL) with my treb. It’s such an honor to have all of these guys coming for me

The girl with the treb

aelen.5673:

Victory.2879:

It’s still messy as hell, but at least it’s not the blamefest that SFR is.

Sounds like heaven to me, might have to transfer or something. They in need of commanders?

Need night coverage more than anything. At the moment night coverage is one man and his dog- and the dog can’t move. And a thick skin- many a commander can’t hack it and ragequits as the zerg merrily chases down the reminding 10 enemies while the commander cries ‘get on ts’ and ‘stack on me’:-).

Queues are terrible during prime , 8-10.30 at night, outside of that, not too bad- and later on, you might struggle to find a follow player. But no shortage of enemies- plenty of Desolation and AM to go find and kill.

So, even tho skill lag and queues made guild raids hard to do this week we manged to make a couple and we enjoyed it. Thanks to sfr and vizunah!

I really liked how people from SFR spammed /bow (one even pressed /cry) after they killed our greatly outnumbered group outside bay’s doors today (around an hour before this post, if I recall correctly) and I’d like to say “thank you”. It was a rather pleasant surprise.

chriskin.3298:

I really liked how people from SFR spammed /bow (one even pressed /cry) after they killed our greatly outnumbered group outside bay’s doors today (around an hour before this post, if I recall correctly) and I’d like to say “thank you”. It was a rather pleasant surprise.

whe are not al so bad. You just need to skip our forum warriors , they are bored like kitten on the office.

Kudo’s to Ps and Viz , except of the terrible skill lag / queue probs / ap (i can not speak english )hunters. I had a blast. Good fights etc and thats al want. Good fights and fun.

cheerz

chriskin.3298:

I really liked how people from SFR spammed /bow (one even pressed /cry) after they killed our greatly outnumbered group outside bay’s doors today (around an hour before this post, if I recall correctly) and I’d like to say “thank you”. It was a rather pleasant surprise.

y, u where low on numbers there)

lmcvann.4781:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268

With 3 sides its normal that 2 sides attack one, WATT IT’S NOT NORMAL IT’S THAT PIKEN ALLWAYS ATTACK SFR.

PS have attacked SFR 67% of the time
SFR have attacked PS 72% of the time

So you could say: WATT IT’S NOT NORMAL IT’S THAT SFR ALLWAYS ATTACK PIKEN.

as SFR are doing it the most

can you give any hard evidence on your numbers please?

also, me looking back on the week:

boring, loads of queue, loads of QQ on the forums, loads of blobs and not much solo roaming guild groups, not to forget the lagg (most likely caused by the blobs)

SFR, mind me ask you to please act a bit adult on the forums, stuff like the post up here (the quote) make me feel like bashing my head against a wall.

Commander Vayle The Eternal,
Guild Leader Varangian Guard [VG]

Go back 1 or 2 pages, theres an image taken from the GW" wvwvw stats site and a link in another post to show the focu of each side.

Just crying that PS only focus SFR drives me mad when SFR focus PS more. Its good that its Friday, hopefully this lag fest match up will be over and SFR can go back to dominating servers with less coverage. Maybe PS can too.

@Vin
The post was deleted and I had to see it? Do you think I’m here all the time? Just try learn a little bit to play, because you analysis on game just suck and I’m just losing my time to you.
Let me ask you, do you think that it’s impossible to put something like that with your name here, saying horrible things? This is not a court, so will not judge anyone here, like I say send your proof to Anet and the y will judge it.

I feel very hard to believe Kresh doing this, and until proof of the contrary I will believe him.

@Troma
You state here that you are honest. It’s honest to make accusations just because 1 or 2 guys told you something? Or do you have some kind of evidence?
For me you are in my ignore list, until you present public apologies to SFR.

Chmod.4391:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

Please stop feeding the trolls/ignorant, this isn’t funny. Someone already post the info about the number of times Piken had flipped Durios (the weakest tower in Blue map), the number? A ridiculous 6.

But do you have the info about how many time they tried it and have been succesfuly repelled ?

No, I just can teel you that one of them we help, we fought VS so they can reach Durios door. Happy?

romainette.2369:

to sfr :
-we have huge waiting lists on vizunah (monday more than 4 hours on piken and i did not manage to get in . so same as you
- our commanders and leaders in vizunah spent hours to train people, train commanders, every day for several weeks. every one !
they put online a lot of tips, how WvWvW works, even builds !
so even if a lot of usual players like me are not able to get in, we have trained pick up and trained fresh commanders playing, even if they are mainly pve or casual.
and yes we have no choice than to focus on our best ennemy, it is logical, you would do the same, and yes piken is right to do the finishing move, you would do the same (and you did in the past on both situations)
so, right now, vizunah is well prepared, well organized, because a lot of people spent a lot of time and energy for the league.
did you do the same ?

Hi, long time no see.

Yes we have done that, 100% sure in EB map, and we have great results, we also started before the league, the grinders don’t afect us to much in this map.

I think the week point was the BL’s where the flow of grinders, has afected our performance.

Yes I agree with you, in this kind of fight where the numbers count we must be inclusive not exclusive. Some SFR will be surprised to see me talking like this, because I don’t mind to be the “bad cop” in game.

Still learning and improving, like I like it:)

Have fun, congrats for the win.

Cya in game.

azrael.5913:

chriskin.3298:

I really liked how people from SFR spammed /bow (one even pressed /cry) after they killed our greatly outnumbered group outside bay’s doors today (around an hour before this post, if I recall correctly) and I’d like to say “thank you”. It was a rather pleasant surprise.

whe are not al so bad. You just need to skip our forum warriors , they are bored like kitten on the office.

Kudo’s to Ps and Viz , except of the terrible skill lag / queue probs / ap (i can not speak english )hunters. I had a blast. Good fights etc and thats al want. Good fights and fun.

cheerz

You need to decide to do something about those forum people. Maybe their guilds will be able to control them better than you do. SFR becomes a target of other servers due to this very same reason apart from other motives.

Fun fact about next match-ups:

Winners of the match one are together.
Seconds of the match one are together.
Losers of the match one are together.

And it was random

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

@Troma
You state here that you are honest. It’s honest to make accusations just because 1 or 2 guys told you something? Or do you have some kind of evidence?
For me you are in my ignore list, until you present public apologies to SFR.

Lmao. If Troma should apology to SFR, what should do SFR forum warriors to Vizunah for the past year? Delete their accounts?

GameRex.8735:

Fun fact about next match-ups:

Winners of the match one are together.
Seconds of the match one are together.
Losers of the match one are together.

And it was random

For me it seems all this is part of a MASTERPLAN.

Well, the matchup is over by now, so it’s time to congratulate both Vizunah for an impressive showing and Piken for an unexpected (by me at least) strong performance. See you in some weeks!

As for unknownhr post, the flaw is in the fact that if your server is deserving of the first spot it should have no problems facing SFR with a third weak server. Just as we can feast on their points, so can you. Was it that hard to figure out?

@ judaaa sorry man no duels for you, next time show up when estabilished :p

Looking for some nice duels today whisper me in game.

Need coffee first though…..

Muan.1029:

For me it seems all this is part of a MASTERPLAN.

That’s because Anet helps Vizunah, postponing the league so it coincides with the French holidays & providing lagbots !

Leorcyn.1063:

Muan.1029:

For me it seems all this is part of a MASTERPLAN.

That’s because Anet helps Vizunah, postponing the league so it coincides with the French holidays & providing lagbots !

Well wouldn’t be first time when national servers get advantages in mmorpg.

Nice league system. This is no league, its crap. A real league system would be 1v1. Then viz and piken wouldnt have any chance to help each other. so they did, cuz this both server are little chicken without each other.
Nice work everyday inside sm. Vizu is fighting against sfr in front of the lordroom and a small group of that kittened Piken is capture inside. Everyday again and again. I think its vizu style, only to fight, if they are more ppl or getting help by another server. the double attacks at the same time at wildcreek and klovan are nice, too.
But i can understand em. If you are weak or stupid, you have to do that things. I am with you.
I love you both server. Cuz you showed me, sfr is the best server. Look at our points and you will see what i mean. Another server would have the whole time 60 Points.

Just want to chime in and say a nice thanks to some of the Piken I ran into at the BL JP the other day, Instead of attacking (I in turn did not attack them) they used /salute and let me get in with it. Returning the gesture, we all got what we wanted.

Good chaps them individuals.

Kingface.9781:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

@Troma
You state here that you are honest. It’s honest to make accusations just because 1 or 2 guys told you something? Or do you have some kind of evidence?
For me you are in my ignore list, until you present public apologies to SFR.

Lmao. If Troma should apology to SFR, what should do SFR forum warriors to Vizunah for the past year? Delete their accounts?

This guy isn’t a random that come here hand do some troll post, if he wants respect he must respect others, make those acusations based in watt some people say its unfair.

How do you feel if I came here doing acusations to you or to him, simply based in watt someone told me?

You know me. I respect my opponents.

GJ vizunah, and nice spirit this week.
Also your new pet is Kewl

Vin.7514:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

For the last time it’s no need any kind of agreement to have double team. If Piken had chosen VS to attack they will be double teamed, in the past this had happen to us and to VS. This spoils the fun of the game even if you get the benefits from hit, that’s watt I felt in the past. For Piken it’s a victory to come in front from SFR, nothing new, I have seen Deso and Elona doing the same.

It’s funny seeing you going about about double teaming or how it spoils the fun of game when this was posted in this thread before and deleted, but I saved it before. It’s SFR commander (Kresh) admitting that SFR planned to double team Vizunah.

Humm, u completely misunderstand what i said.
We planned the PS + VZ double teaming us the first time we saw the matchups shedule, since was pretty obvius.

What we didn t planned to handle was the french school holydays since there is nothing on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_France

(yes i check if the national servers we fight has some holydays since it makes huge difference)

plus, this is personal, haven t u mentioned i was in that party to help a couple of guys FROM VS AND PS to get to end of the EBG JP since they had no idea where to go.

Im very disappointed to see the use done of this conversation, specially cutting off parts in order to change the sense of what i said.

End of the Matchup. Thanks a lot to SFR and Piken for the good fight this week.
It was really great. Keep in mind that GW2 is just a game and it is ridiculous to fight on the forum about who is the best, the blob, the zerg bla bla, “qui a la plus grosse”= “who has the biggest one” (may be, bad translation).
The only important point is to spend good time, if it was the case, you have won, if it was not the case, play Sim online or at tea parties with your sister.

In any case, well done !!

Steahan (GANG)
Motto: Pick up is beautifull

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

How do you feel if I came here doing acusations to you or to him, simply based in watt someone told me?

I feel a normal forum day for VS.

Troma has nothing to apology, especially in here.

Kingface.9781:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

How do you feel if I came here doing acusations to you or to him, simply based in watt someone told me?

I feel a normal forum day for VS.

Troma has nothing to apology, especially in here.

OK. Lets make this a jungle? Nah. I refuse that.

Writing in forums its a great responsabilty. Yersterday I spoted some guys outside WWW saying that we are losing because of 2v1, and because VS uses ilegal ways to play, I just told them that its simply not true, we lost because of us, and next time wen they go to WWW just try to stick with commander and do watever he asks.

It’s time to get only inside (the game) and try to do my best there. Nothing more to do here.

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

@Vin
The post was deleted and I had to see it? Do you think I’m here all the time? Just try learn a little bit to play, because you analysis on game just suck and I’m just losing my time to you.
Let me ask you, do you think that it’s impossible to put something like that with your name here, saying horrible things? This is not a court, so will not judge anyone here, like I say send your proof to Anet and the y will judge it.

I feel very hard to believe Kresh doing this, and until proof of the contrary I will believe him.

And OFC you are right, check ur private messages u v got a mail

Well this is the end my friends, nice match up and congratz to everyone involved

To SFR: you did well despite internal drama (as i heard) and in front of two good server obviously not liking you, and proove one more time that you’re a force to be reckoned.

To Piken: impressive presence and strategy that (i think it’s safe to say right now) secured you 3 points for the start of the league. congratz on that

To Viz: well, what to say, it’s been a blast to witness one more time the ugly beast awoken, craving for enemy’s blood. And to all the vizunians crying before league even started that viz was gonna crumble under pressure, this is the real face of Viz, so next time, less talking more pewpewing !

ilmau.9781:

Humm, u completely misunderstand what i said.
We planned the PS + VZ double teaming us the first time we saw the matchups shedule, since was pretty obvius.

In that case I am sorry and deleted it. It was easy to misunderstand you when you said you planned instead of saying you expected (which would have made more sense in that context then).

Vin.7514:

ilmau.9781:

Humm, u completely misunderstand what i said.
We planned the PS + VZ double teaming us the first time we saw the matchups shedule, since was pretty obvius.

In that case I am sorry and deleted it. It was easy to misunderstand you when you said you planned instead of saying you expected (which would have made more sense in that context then).

omg, no prob! i m not native english and never studied a lot at school ^^

just learned from video games and playing online so probably my fault there

c u in game laters!

Well , first round is over . Kudos from OSC to both Viz and Piken for keeping us pretty busy during this week . Even though we prefer smaller scale fight ( and possibly against one server at time ! ) we managed to have lots of fun out there .
Despite queues , lag ,blob , zerg , double teaming , or wathewer is the fotm reason to complain about, cya next on the battlefield that is where OSC seeks challenge ^^