5/24 T7 NSP/DR/GoM
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Tarnished Coast [Crit]
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Daklap Elementalist|Man Crushin Thighs Warrior
XOXO|NSP
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
I tried this once with a party member. Those kitten doors are OP. After a few minutes, I threw a treb down right in front of the gate, figuring it’d do max damage at point blank range. Sadly, the build spot was destroyed by the time we got back with more supply. Finally, we threw a flame ram in front of the wall to see if it was as OP as the gate, but by then people had shown up and killed us while we were trying to build it! PvDoor is really, really hard.
I have a screen shot of genius flame ram placement on my desktop at home, but sadly did not get shots of the auto attacking or the treb.
Daklap Elementalist|Man Crushin Thighs Warrior
XOXO|NSP
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
I tried this once with a party member. Those kitten doors are OP. After a few minutes, I threw a treb down right in front of the gate, figuring it’d do max damage at point blank range. Sadly, the build spot was destroyed by the time we got back with more supply. Finally, we threw a flame ram in front of the wall to see if it was as OP as the gate, but by then people had shown up and killed us while we were trying to build it! PvDoor is really, really hard.
I have a screen shot of genius flame ram placement on my desktop at home, but sadly did not get shots of the auto attacking or the treb.
If you’ve got like 2 people tryin to ninja a location, maybe do like a cata. You don’t have to worry about guards and you can place it out of sight.
I didn’t think XOXO took towers but this mornin I saw the SPCA/tM/XOXO trifecta holdin Lake tower on Gates of Madness. Blew my mind and totally killed me =(
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
What he said.
Tenebrous Fivetree – Guardian
Zelots of Shiverpeaks (ZoS) – Northern Shiverpeaks
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
I tried this once with a party member. Those kitten doors are OP. After a few minutes, I threw a treb down right in front of the gate, figuring it’d do max damage at point blank range. Sadly, the build spot was destroyed by the time we got back with more supply. Finally, we threw a flame ram in front of the wall to see if it was as OP as the gate, but by then people had shown up and killed us while we were trying to build it! PvDoor is really, really hard.
I have a screen shot of genius flame ram placement on my desktop at home, but sadly did not get shots of the auto attacking or the treb.
If you’ve got like 2 people tryin to ninja a location, maybe do like a cata. You don’t have to worry about guards and you can place it out of sight.
I didn’t think XOXO took towers but this mornin I saw the SPCA/tM/XOXO trifecta holdin Lake tower on Gates of Madness. Blew my mind and totally killed me =(
lol, we were just trying to attract attention at first because it was a time of day that the BLs were pretty empty. I then got bored and decided to have a few laughs.
Surprisingly, we do like to actually ninja towers or keeps every once in a while when we need a break from our usual shenanigans or can’t find the PvP action we love so dearly. And the blowing minds part is a big plus to doing so.
Daklap Elementalist|Man Crushin Thighs Warrior
XOXO|NSP
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
I tried this once with a party member. Those kitten doors are OP. After a few minutes, I threw a treb down right in front of the gate, figuring it’d do max damage at point blank range. Sadly, the build spot was destroyed by the time we got back with more supply. Finally, we threw a flame ram in front of the wall to see if it was as OP as the gate, but by then people had shown up and killed us while we were trying to build it! PvDoor is really, really hard.
I have a screen shot of genius flame ram placement on my desktop at home, but sadly did not get shots of the auto attacking or the treb.
I didn’t think XOXO took towers but this mornin I saw the SPCA/tM/XOXO trifecta holdin Lake tower on Gates of Madness. Blew my mind and totally killed me =(
Screenshots, or it didn’t happen! I refuse to believe that XOXO would ever stoop as low as to do some actual WvW’ing.
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
I tried this once with a party member. Those kitten doors are OP. After a few minutes, I threw a treb down right in front of the gate, figuring it’d do max damage at point blank range. Sadly, the build spot was destroyed by the time we got back with more supply. Finally, we threw a flame ram in front of the wall to see if it was as OP as the gate, but by then people had shown up and killed us while we were trying to build it! PvDoor is really, really hard.
I have a screen shot of genius flame ram placement on my desktop at home, but sadly did not get shots of the auto attacking or the treb.
I didn’t think XOXO took towers but this mornin I saw the SPCA/tM/XOXO trifecta holdin Lake tower on Gates of Madness. Blew my mind and totally killed me =(
Screenshots, or it didn’t happen! I refuse to believe that XOXO would ever stoop as low as to do some actual WvW’ing.
Haha, I can at least post the flame ram placement when I get home this evening. With the new random opponents, I’m not too worried about you guys seeing our super leet strategies. You can even surprise other servers with them!
Daklap Elementalist|Man Crushin Thighs Warrior
XOXO|NSP
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
I tried this once with a party member. Those kitten doors are OP. After a few minutes, I threw a treb down right in front of the gate, figuring it’d do max damage at point blank range. Sadly, the build spot was destroyed by the time we got back with more supply. Finally, we threw a flame ram in front of the wall to see if it was as OP as the gate, but by then people had shown up and killed us while we were trying to build it! PvDoor is really, really hard.
I have a screen shot of genius flame ram placement on my desktop at home, but sadly did not get shots of the auto attacking or the treb.
I didn’t think XOXO took towers but this mornin I saw the SPCA/tM/XOXO trifecta holdin Lake tower on Gates of Madness. Blew my mind and totally killed me =(
Screenshots, or it didn’t happen! I refuse to believe that XOXO would ever stoop as low as to do some actual WvW’ing.
Haha, I can at least post the flame ram placement when I get home this evening. With the new random opponents, I’m not too worried about you guys seeing our super leet strategies. You can even surprise other servers with them!
If you guys are the ones who like to leave flame rams pointed at our tower walls, then we took care of smashing them for you. Free WXP is free WXP! Gotta save up for that OP burning oil mastery!
(edited by TeamBattleAxe.3901)
I got killed on the stairs to Hills ‘cause the entire fight I’m like standin there with my mouth open goin “What are they doin attackin the guards at Hills? I mean, they’re not even gonna try to take Hills… for some reason they have a tower.. but.. why would they be takin that tower…” brain melt
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
I tried this once with a party member. Those kitten doors are OP. After a few minutes, I threw a treb down right in front of the gate, figuring it’d do max damage at point blank range. Sadly, the build spot was destroyed by the time we got back with more supply. Finally, we threw a flame ram in front of the wall to see if it was as OP as the gate, but by then people had shown up and killed us while we were trying to build it! PvDoor is really, really hard.
I have a screen shot of genius flame ram placement on my desktop at home, but sadly did not get shots of the auto attacking or the treb.
I didn’t think XOXO took towers but this mornin I saw the SPCA/tM/XOXO trifecta holdin Lake tower on Gates of Madness. Blew my mind and totally killed me =(
Screenshots, or it didn’t happen! I refuse to believe that XOXO would ever stoop as low as to do some actual WvW’ing.
Haha, I can at least post the flame ram placement when I get home this evening. With the new random opponents, I’m not too worried about you guys seeing our super leet strategies. You can even surprise other servers with them!
If you guys are the ones who like to leave flame rams pointed at our tower walls, then we took care of smashing them for you. Free WXP is free WXP! Gotta save up for that OP burning oil mastery!
Well, if people often take walls down with catapults, we figured we’d go the next step and do it with flame rams. It works the same way, right? …Right?!?!?
Daklap Elementalist|Man Crushin Thighs Warrior
XOXO|NSP
I AM EXTREMELY TICKLED WITH THE SONG USED IN THIS VIDEO THAT I MUST TYPE IN ALL CAPS!
Companion of Starlight Honeybuns.
You stole me, and I stole you.
Siegecraft is WvW. The whole game was designed around the taking & holding of property and the maintenance of supply. Siege engines are the tools of the trade. Sure, you can pvp in the meantime for grins. But siegecraft is what wins the game.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Guys… all that matters is PPT…….
Companion of Starlight Honeybuns.
You stole me, and I stole you.
Screenshots, or it didn’t happen! I refuse to believe that XOXO would ever stoop as low as to do some actual WvW’ing.
Say it’s not so XOXO!!!! My heart just sank
PB Officer
NSP
Our GvG fight has fallen through for tonight
PM me in game if you got 15-20 good players that can fight at 8pm EST
/salute
GM of [VP]
Venator Phalanx.
Our GvG fight has fallen through for tonight
PM me in game if you got 15-20 good players that can fight at 8pm EST
/salute
yeh, sorry about that mate. I was looking forward to it :P
/cry
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
I tried this once with a party member. Those kitten doors are OP. After a few minutes, I threw a treb down right in front of the gate, figuring it’d do max damage at point blank range. Sadly, the build spot was destroyed by the time we got back with more supply. Finally, we threw a flame ram in front of the wall to see if it was as OP as the gate, but by then people had shown up and killed us while we were trying to build it! PvDoor is really, really hard.
I have a screen shot of genius flame ram placement on my desktop at home, but sadly did not get shots of the auto attacking or the treb.
THIS IS PRICELESS +1
Doom Strykër [Warr] Doom Ryder [Ranger]
Doomku [Guard] Doom Wrack [Mez]
I don’t have a problem with people coming through accidentally and waiting for the door to come down or jumping out… people that come through accidentally and then attack people siege etc… are exploiting a bug and should be punished.
Devona Borders (DB)
Devonas rest.
That in the picture is me and before you go and complain on the forums becuase something happened which shouldnt of how about you address the problem by talking to the person about it, i wasnt even aware you could even do this ‘glitch’ in, i was fighting a necro outside and he zoned in mid way through my HS, i was as surprised as you when i ended up inside your tower. So much so i died instantly, i was ressed and instead of go around attacking everyone i made my way upstiars and ran over the wall, what you see there is me healing and running to save my own skin. after that happen i questioned people near mean who saw it at the time and they informed me its possible. So Apologies on my behalf, didnt intend to.
That specific tower is famous (or rather, infamous) for this. I’ve ported into that tower unintentionally using guardian sword 2 myself. It’s been like that for months now.
We can totally forgive the glitching-in, I have seen someone do that in the past (they just stood aside so everyone knew it was not intended) but I did not realize what he was saying had happened, until I saw the pic.
What I CAN’T forgive, is that the guy taking the screenie caught me whining about having the Flu, while leading the push to retake the Garrison
Tarnished Coast
Guild Leader, Primal Fury
here’s to hoping for a different matchup tomorrow. as the challenge grinds to a halt the second the weekenders burn themselves out.
a strong suggestion to the Os guild: you would greatly increase the success of your server by splitting your zerg in half and using it more than just friday and saturday. oh and the tunnel vision on hills is beyond predictable now.(although why we over at GoM fail to take advantage of that is a little strange)
again, only a suggestion.You don’t seem to know the difference tween a rush and tunnel vision second oh I wish we could pull more numbers during the week used to be able too before my haitus and our group isn’t that big just seems bigger then it is
well that’s unfortunate. i guess it’s not your fault though. i call it tunnel vision as Os has never failed to attack hills every week
As true as Odin’s spear flies,
There is nowhere to hide.
To the GOM camping the exit of the dark area of the Eternal Battlegrounds JP, REALLY?!
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
I tried this once with a party member. Those kitten doors are OP. After a few minutes, I threw a treb down right in front of the gate, figuring it’d do max damage at point blank range. Sadly, the build spot was destroyed by the time we got back with more supply. Finally, we threw a flame ram in front of the wall to see if it was as OP as the gate, but by then people had shown up and killed us while we were trying to build it! PvDoor is really, really hard.
I have a screen shot of genius flame ram placement on my desktop at home, but sadly did not get shots of the auto attacking or the treb.
I didn’t think XOXO took towers but this mornin I saw the SPCA/tM/XOXO trifecta holdin Lake tower on Gates of Madness. Blew my mind and totally killed me =(
Screenshots, or it didn’t happen! I refuse to believe that XOXO would ever stoop as low as to do some actual WvW’ing.
Haha, I can at least post the flame ram placement when I get home this evening. With the new random opponents, I’m not too worried about you guys seeing our super leet strategies. You can even surprise other servers with them!
If you guys are the ones who like to leave flame rams pointed at our tower walls, then we took care of smashing them for you. Free WXP is free WXP! Gotta save up for that OP burning oil mastery!
Well, if people often take walls down with catapults, we figured we’d go the next step and do it with flame rams. It works the same way, right? …Right?!?!?
It absolutely does.
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
I tried this once with a party member. Those kitten doors are OP. After a few minutes, I threw a treb down right in front of the gate, figuring it’d do max damage at point blank range. Sadly, the build spot was destroyed by the time we got back with more supply. Finally, we threw a flame ram in front of the wall to see if it was as OP as the gate, but by then people had shown up and killed us while we were trying to build it! PvDoor is really, really hard.
I have a screen shot of genius flame ram placement on my desktop at home, but sadly did not get shots of the auto attacking or the treb.
I didn’t think XOXO took towers but this mornin I saw the SPCA/tM/XOXO trifecta holdin Lake tower on Gates of Madness. Blew my mind and totally killed me =(
Screenshots, or it didn’t happen! I refuse to believe that XOXO would ever stoop as low as to do some actual WvW’ing.
Haha, I can at least post the flame ram placement when I get home this evening. With the new random opponents, I’m not too worried about you guys seeing our super leet strategies. You can even surprise other servers with them!
If you guys are the ones who like to leave flame rams pointed at our tower walls, then we took care of smashing them for you. Free WXP is free WXP! Gotta save up for that OP burning oil mastery!
Well, if people often take walls down with catapults, we figured we’d go the next step and do it with flame rams. It works the same way, right? …Right?!?!?
It absolutely does.
Whoa… I think I need to start saving rank points for the inevitable flame ram mastery.
Phoenix Ascendant [ASH] – Gate of Madness
“This space intentionally left blank.” ~ Zork
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
I tried this once with a party member. Those kitten doors are OP. After a few minutes, I threw a treb down right in front of the gate, figuring it’d do max damage at point blank range. Sadly, the build spot was destroyed by the time we got back with more supply. Finally, we threw a flame ram in front of the wall to see if it was as OP as the gate, but by then people had shown up and killed us while we were trying to build it! PvDoor is really, really hard.
I have a screen shot of genius flame ram placement on my desktop at home, but sadly did not get shots of the auto attacking or the treb.
I didn’t think XOXO took towers but this mornin I saw the SPCA/tM/XOXO trifecta holdin Lake tower on Gates of Madness. Blew my mind and totally killed me =(
Screenshots, or it didn’t happen! I refuse to believe that XOXO would ever stoop as low as to do some actual WvW’ing.
Haha, I can at least post the flame ram placement when I get home this evening. With the new random opponents, I’m not too worried about you guys seeing our super leet strategies. You can even surprise other servers with them!
Can confirm some amazing strategies. For example I’ve seen the power of the XOXO wall rams with my own eyes and have been practicing it since. Sadly I have not been able to master it.
Charr Guardian & many alts
I am the donut
Thanks to [PDN] for jumping in at the last minute to GvG us.
Hope to see you out in battle.
/salute
GM of [VP]
Venator Phalanx.
This I do not agree with …… “nothing but bad pvpers”.
I have fought some really good players from both GoM and DR, Won some and lost some. But they have some really good players. In fact wanted to give a shout out to the VP thief I fought yesterday at the ruins in GoM BL (I think). Fought for what seemed like forever, finally got downed (Friggin’ Ranger Heal steal, lol), then a polite bow. Class act, I do the same.
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
And yet…GoM is still winning and has been doing quite well without heavily relying on siege. But, if it makes the pain of watching a server where, as you put it a “…majority of gom are bad in pvp…” easier to deal with…please continue with your dialogue.
Ya make it sound like you are somehow a T1 server not down here with us.
To the GOM camping the exit of the dark area of the Eternal Battlegrounds JP, REALLY?!
Haven’t been WvW in a while. But really. If it’s red it’s dead.
Great fights tonight in NSP and DRB, every time I turned around we were in another 3-way. Good stuff.
To the GOM camping the exit of the dark area of the Eternal Battlegrounds JP, REALLY?!
Haven’t been WvW in a while. But really. If it’s red it’s dead.
There’s no honor among GoM.
Necro movie. Most clips from this matchup, some from previous matchup.
Solo & Roaming Group WvW Movies
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
I literally laughed out loud just now. Which is bad because I’m still at work, but whatever.
1) Seige is a huge part of WvW. In fact, one could argue the entire mode was based around seige. You’re supposed to use it heavily.
2) “maybe this is why you are one of the low servers” – Not sure if you noticed, but we’re all in the same tier here.
3) There are quite a few reasons we’re in one of the lower tiers, but the use of seige is definitely not one of them. I’m not going to get into details, but what a ridiculous statement.
4) From what I’ve seen we have just as many good pvpers out there as any of the other servers we’ve fought. Making blanket statements about the skill level of a server’s players is both incredibly subjective and impossible to prove, but you can believe whatever you like.
Sigh, I just had to give in and feed the troll. Well done on pulling me in sir.
Silly GoM, everyone knows you are supposed to auto attack keep doors down while working in groups of 5 or less.
Agreed, it the best.
I tried this once with a party member. Those kitten doors are OP. After a few minutes, I threw a treb down right in front of the gate, figuring it’d do max damage at point blank range. Sadly, the build spot was destroyed by the time we got back with more supply. Finally, we threw a flame ram in front of the wall to see if it was as OP as the gate, but by then people had shown up and killed us while we were trying to build it! PvDoor is really, really hard.
I have a screen shot of genius flame ram placement on my desktop at home, but sadly did not get shots of the auto attacking or the treb.
I didn’t think XOXO took towers but this mornin I saw the SPCA/tM/XOXO trifecta holdin Lake tower on Gates of Madness. Blew my mind and totally killed me =(
Screenshots, or it didn’t happen! I refuse to believe that XOXO would ever stoop as low as to do some actual WvW’ing.
Haha, I can at least post the flame ram placement when I get home this evening. With the new random opponents, I’m not too worried about you guys seeing our super leet strategies. You can even surprise other servers with them!
Can confirm some amazing strategies. For example I’ve seen the power of the XOXO wall rams with my own eyes and have been practicing it since. Sadly I have not been able to master it.
As promised, here is the screenshot of our wall ram. Sorry, I don’t have a screen shot of the point blank treb build or the auto attack + HS spam on the door.
Neither of these screenshots was edited in any way shape or form. I really think that Anet needs to work on its manners, the battle log in the second is just downright mean.
Hopefully this will help you on your wall flam ram skills. I’ll let you know when I solve the massive damage issue.
Daklap Elementalist|Man Crushin Thighs Warrior
XOXO|NSP
This I do not agree with …… “nothing but bad pvpers”.
I have fought some really good players from both GoM and DR, Won some and lost some. But they have some really good players. In fact wanted to give a shout out to the VP thief I fought yesterday at the ruins in GoM BL (I think). Fought for what seemed like forever, finally got downed (Friggin’ Ranger Heal steal, lol), then a polite bow. Class act, I do the same.
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
And yet…GoM is still winning and has been doing quite well without heavily relying on siege. But, if it makes the pain of watching a server where, as you put it a “…majority of gom are bad in pvp…” easier to deal with…please continue with your dialogue.
Not sure if serious… Your winning because you have more people/better coverage by a pretty wide margin… but go ahead and keep thinking its all skill first time you hit a larger wvw population server a large percentage of your numbers will melt away and then you will see what your made of.
Devona Borders (DB)
Devonas rest.
The last stand at Golanta Clearing tonight was the most fun I’ve had in awhile. Two ballistae, two ac and five NSP players with heads on swivels. I really admire the GoMer tactics of taking cover, moving from wood pile to shed to downed state..heheh. Then the treb started pounding us and we knew we had pushed some buttons on your end. Nice surround and rush. I salute you!
On another note, let’s keep the game fun and enjoyable for all. No need to attack each other on the forums. The battlefield is where all that aggression belongs. I agree on the point made earlier about getting our guilds together to overcome our disadvantage. Being outnumbered is the norm for us so let’s get more efficient. Maybe a meeting of the NSP guilds is in order.
Valdyr Tyrsson (W) | Greftrun (T)
Northern Shiverpeaks
This I do not agree with …… “nothing but bad pvpers”.
I have fought some really good players from both GoM and DR, Won some and lost some. But they have some really good players. In fact wanted to give a shout out to the VP thief I fought yesterday at the ruins in GoM BL (I think). Fought for what seemed like forever, finally got downed (Friggin’ Ranger Heal steal, lol), then a polite bow. Class act, I do the same.
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
And yet…GoM is still winning and has been doing quite well without heavily relying on siege. But, if it makes the pain of watching a server where, as you put it a “…majority of gom are bad in pvp…” easier to deal with…please continue with your dialogue.
Not sure if serious… Your winning because you have more people/better coverage by a pretty wide margin… but go ahead and keep thinking its all skill first time you hit a larger wvw population server a large percentage of your numbers will melt away and then you will see what your made of.
Granted we have a larger coverage, but i’ve not seen a massively higher level of skill from NSP or DR. Certain guilds eg. VP are excellent but i honestly dont see that much of a difference between pugs on any of our servers. We will face a challenge if we manage to get to a higher tier, but i highly doubt our numbers will melt away…
i was running untagged a few days ago with a bunch of pugs, we ran into a group of DR the same size (from what i could tell all pugs with no tag). Needless to say it was a close fight, the pugs went down quickly to the 2/3 superior players in each group leaving them fighting. Certainly some players where more skilled than others, but the average levels between the 3 servers isn’t big enough for us to contrast.
No, we’re not winning from skill, but each server is better at something else. I feel in GoMs case its attacking, even outnumbered in T8 we used to cap more towers, not hold them but cap them.
Tl;DR
Stop comparing skill level with points, with the number inbalance its not fair. But don’t claim that some servers have a higher skill on average, pugs are pugs at the end of the day.
This I do not agree with …… “nothing but bad pvpers”.
I have fought some really good players from both GoM and DR, Won some and lost some. But they have some really good players. In fact wanted to give a shout out to the VP thief I fought yesterday at the ruins in GoM BL (I think). Fought for what seemed like forever, finally got downed (Friggin’ Ranger Heal steal, lol), then a polite bow. Class act, I do the same.
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
And yet…GoM is still winning and has been doing quite well without heavily relying on siege. But, if it makes the pain of watching a server where, as you put it a “…majority of gom are bad in pvp…” easier to deal with…please continue with your dialogue.
Not sure if serious… Your winning because you have more people/better coverage by a pretty wide margin… but go ahead and keep thinking its all skill first time you hit a larger wvw population server a large percentage of your numbers will melt away and then you will see what your made of.
Granted we have a larger coverage, but i’ve not seen a massively higher level of skill from NSP or DR. Certain guilds eg. VP are excellent but i honestly dont see that much of a difference between pugs on any of our servers. We will face a challenge if we manage to get to a higher tier, but i highly doubt our numbers will melt away…
i was running untagged a few days ago with a bunch of pugs, we ran into a group of DR the same size (from what i could tell all pugs with no tag). Needless to say it was a close fight, the pugs went down quickly to the 2/3 superior players in each group leaving them fighting. Certainly some players where more skilled than others, but the average levels between the 3 servers isn’t big enough for us to contrast.
No, we’re not winning from skill, but each server is better at something else. I feel in GoMs case its attacking, even outnumbered in T8 we used to cap more towers, not hold them but cap them.
Tl;DR
Stop comparing skill level with points, with the number inbalance its not fair. But don’t claim that some servers have a higher skill on average, pugs are pugs at the end of the day.
^ All these and those… This was a triumph!
I’m making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS.
It’s hard to overstate my satisfaction.
Devona’s Rest!
(GoM: ) We do what we must
because we can.
For the good of all of us.
Except the ones who are dead.
But there’s no sense crying over every mistake.
You just keep on trying till you run out of cake…
For the people who are still alive.
I’m not even angry.
I’m being so sincere right now.
Even though you broke my heart.
And killed me…
Think of all the things we learned
for the people who are still alive.
Go ahead and leave me.
I think I prefer to stay inside (of the spawn/Garrison/Hills/our zerg[s], if any )
Maybe you’ll find someone else to help you……
Anyway, this cake is great.
It’s so delicious and moist.
Look at me still talking
when there’s fighting to do.
PS. It’s much bluer earlier few minutes ago!
map chat spammer, siege lover/hater, and, well, I care bears.
League of Ex-Siegers, nonetheLEXS, for now, still Rest on Stormbluff Isle
It is certainly unfair to say that GoM, as a server, does not have any skill or similar skill to the other tier 7 servers. They are winning aren’t they? Can we stop them? Nope!
If all they had was numbers we could easily throw a couple of arrow carts up on all our stuff and sit watching the TV while pressing 1 in the general direction of the GoM zerg.
We can’t do this. They know how to place siege well and let that do the work while they are off doing something more important, like re-supplying.
If you have the chance to use siege and you don’t, you ain’t doing it right. (Not talking about the whole roaming thing as I gather thats ‘just not the done thing’ in those scenarios)
I will say that larger population servers don’t tend to improve in such an unbalanced fight as we have at the moment and I hope that GoM gets a better fight when they move up a tier.
I am also impressed by the way GoM don’t give up mid week. They don’t decide to put down their swords and relax doing some CoF runs or stand around commanding in LA. They are out there making sure we all know we are in a fight for PPT.
Grats GoM. You deserve your win and good luck in your next tier when you get there.
/salute
GM of [VP]
Venator Phalanx.
It is certainly unfair to say that GoM, as a server, does not have any skill or similar skill to the other tier 7 servers. They are winning aren’t they? Can we stop them? Nope!
(…)
/salute
i dont see it quite like that….
WvW population as numbers and siege tactics is what is needed to win on this mode, skill or no skill the only objective here to be green and they are doing it.
p.s. If theres something i would say well “Grats on your population dedication GoM, a little envy on your numbers.”
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It is certainly unfair to say that GoM, as a server, does not have any skill or similar skill to the other tier 7 servers. They are winning aren’t they? Can we stop them? Nope!
(…)
/saluteWvW population as numbers and siege tactics is what is needed to win on this mode, skill or no skill the only objective here to be green and they are doing it.
p.s. Grats on your population dedication GoM ^^! a little envy on your numbers.
More than numbers is round the week coverage. They have that. DR and NSP do not. Definitely has been fun as hell matching up against you guys though! Hope to see you both again soon with these semi-random matches. Easily the most roaming/small man friendly match I’ve been in for a while. Every server has their share of bad players , but I’ve seen a lot of people willing to randomly duel as well as good fights for small numbers this entire match up. It has been fun, everyone.
Daklap Elementalist|Man Crushin Thighs Warrior
XOXO|NSP
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Update-on-new-matchups/first#post2124865.
Might spend 1 more week together
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Update-on-new-matchups/first#post2124865.
Might spend 1 more week together
Well, I found it funny that when they rolled out this new ‘better’ matchup system, they had us GoM moving down to T8 again.
Figrin the Healer (Guard), Angelic Renae (Mes), Death by Figrin (Thief)
Are you a tight knit guild team that always wins?
Bored of killing the puggles?
Then VP would like to invite you and your guildies to come and fight against us in a glorious GvG battle.
Try your skills in a 15-20 team. Winner decided in the best of 5 rounds. Food and other buffs allowed.
Reply to me on here or whisper me in game if you are interested.
We might only have 1 week left so don’t end up being the GM that is left saying “We could have probably taken those guys”. Prove it to yourselves and the rest of tier 7 instead.
Thanks
/salute
GM of [VP]
Venator Phalanx.
quote " Nordic Natedog.4360: Got to say, NSP you guys have some guys who are nothing but trolls out there. It’s sad that they teabag, sit on people, and simply laugh when they kill someone using 3+ guys since one or even two can’t do squat. Yes, I am talking about [RMPT] who just roam around thinking they are all big and bad. It really does show how low their self esteem is when killing a foe with 3-5 guys make them feel they are all big and bad."
Based on your previous posting I think it’s quite the opposite. You’re the one who is hurt and is posting in this thread because you yourself have a self esteem problem. You sound extremely insecure because you are constantly trying to remind us all how great you are on this forum, seeking validation as a ‘great’ player.
The fact that you needed to post that reply and attempt to put a bad word on our guild tag is evidence of the above.
Every guild has that one guy who likes to sit/laugh troll etc but ey it’s part of the fun of fighting. And in some cases people like yourself are worth riling up because you’re just plain unlikeable.
For one, I deleted the post a minute or so after writing it. Upon rereading it, I realize it wasn’t how I was intending to put things and removed it so I could look to rephrase it the way I meant it. Only later I decided it wasn’t worth even bothering with.
You are welcome to look through my posts and will find that only a small portion of my posts have a notion of me being great. Generally those are simply in response guys trolling me after a 1vX fight. You will find many more posts of me giving guilds/players props for a nice fight or looking to give advice on game play.
As I told others, I’m not seeking validation for any kind of play. I am calling out guys either in jest (as I did with a thief who repeatedly jumped me just to run) or to point out their laughable moments such as finally downing a guy when the situation is greatly in their favor and taking the time to run emotes over me.
Yes, most guilds out there have guys who troll others or are poor sportsmen. We as leaders and officers have to understand that those situations reflect our guild though.
Figrin the Healer (Guard), Angelic Renae (Mes), Death by Figrin (Thief)
GvG on WvW so… chunky
EDIT: Anet Queen Jennah demmands you to hoppen a tournament open to all realms on a real GvG arenas!
Information was obtained by Logan Thackeray before he runned away!
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I enjoyed the big battle between Anz/SM yesterday night. I usually play in BL so I don`t deal with massive fight like this very often.
Winning a week is about coverage pure and simple, I am not saying GOM has no skill… because honestly they have more good organized guilds than Darkhaven, and BP… just not enough bodies to push through them I think..
What can change that is better organization… right now there is enough wild zerging that when they hit larger servers they will struggle… and typically all the pve people stop wvwing when they arent rolling over competition.
edit: In my opinion.
Devona Borders (DB)
Devonas rest.
I enjoyed the big battle between Anz/SM yesterday night. I usually play in BL so I don`t deal with massive fight like this very often.
That us the good/bad thing about eb. Just pick a spot around sm grab some friends and refuse to leave. Soon you will have a nice sized war going on. Nothing is getting done, but it is fun for awhile.
Melanessa-Necromancer Cymaniel-Scrapper
Minikata-Guardian Shadyne-Elementalist -FA-
I enjoyed the big battle between Anz/SM yesterday night. I usually play in BL so I don`t deal with massive fight like this very often.
That us the good/bad thing about eb. Just pick a spot around sm grab some friends and refuse to leave. Soon you will have a nice sized war going on. Nothing is getting done, but it is fun for awhile.
I agree it was pretty enjoyable and a nice change for me.