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I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

Aurust.8961:

I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

Gaps in timezones mate, and don’t forget TC and FA are both beating on one another as SoS goes about their business. Everyone knows the score is more complex than its face value, well everyone except kitteny SoR instigators.

Aurust.8961:

I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

Sos is good. And tier 1 is tier 1.

Aurust.8961:

I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

I look forward to the day when a former tier-2 server goes against one or more tier-1 servers. I imagine the gap isn’t as wide as you like to believe, especially considering the massive coverage gaps all your servers have (as made evident by the fact that there’s at least one time period every day where each T1 server is getting pooped on).

TC has been queuing 3-4 maps for at least some amount of time every night for over a week. As a genuinely curious question, can T1 servers compete with that NA/Late-NA/Oceanic coverage?

As a side note: No one believed that SoS actually belonged in T4.

Asudementio.8526:

Aurust.8961:

I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

Gaps in timezones mate, and don’t forget TC and FA are both beating on one another as SoS goes about their business. Everyone knows the score is more complex than its face value, well everyone except kitteny SoR instigators.

So if its gaps in timezones, it solidifies my argument about the gap between tier 1 and tier 2……

Anyway gratz to SOS on a great performance so far, and gratz ( maybe ) on being the next bandwagon destination after DB implodes ( see RE recruitment thread page as the usual bandwagon suspects try to take advantage of your oceanic coverage…..

Aurust.8961:

Asudementio.8526:

Aurust.8961:

I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

Gaps in timezones mate, and don’t forget TC and FA are both beating on one another as SoS goes about their business. Everyone knows the score is more complex than its face value, well everyone except kitteny SoR instigators.

So if its gaps in timezones, it solidifies my argument about the gap between tier 1 and tier 2……

Anyway gratz to SOS on a great performance so far, and gratz ( maybe ) on being the next bandwagon destination after DB implodes ( see RE recruitment thread page as the usual bandwagon suspects try to take advantage of your oceanic coverage…..

Because T1 servers don’t have gaps in coverage…..

Hickeroar.9734:

Aurust.8961:

I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

I look forward to the day when a former tier-2 server goes against one or more tier-1 servers. I imagine the gap isn’t as wide as you like to believe, especially considering the massive coverage gaps all your servers have (as made evident by the fact that there’s at least one time period every day where each T1 server is getting pooped on).

SOR doesnt have coverage gaps. And when we are getting “pooped on” you must realize that we are keeping an approximate 200-250 ppt ( today we were top ppt actually during SEA) against 60-80 man JQ zergs in 2 out of 3 BL’s as well as EB. Think about those numbers and how your server would fare against that.

As far as JQ and BG, they do have “coverage gaps” by tier 1 standards…. those “gaps” would be more than enough to hold territory in tier 2.

Can’t wait to put the smackdown on Sanctum of Fail

Aurust.8961:

Hickeroar.9734:

Aurust.8961:

I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

I look forward to the day when a former tier-2 server goes against one or more tier-1 servers. I imagine the gap isn’t as wide as you like to believe, especially considering the massive coverage gaps all your servers have (as made evident by the fact that there’s at least one time period every day where each T1 server is getting pooped on).

SOR doesnt have coverage gaps. And when we are getting “pooped on” you must realize that we are keeping an approximate 200-250 ppt ( today we were top ppt actually during SEA) against 60-80 man JQ zergs in 2 out of 3 BL’s as well as EB. Think about those numbers and how your server would fare against that.

You give SoR a bad name, just leave this thread and head back off to your bridge. No one in T2 is intimidated by SoR or you.

Can we stop the Tier1 coverage chat. We all know coverage plays a major part.
ex: NNK on DB carried that server before bandwagon.

I transferred over to SoS this weekend. I was interested to see how this matchup was going to play out.

It has been quite a blast! Ive taken part in every facet of WvW; zerging, small man roaming, open fielding, objective focused. So many good fights to go find.

Thus far I have been impressed with with SoS, transferring here was a good decision upon initial reflection. The people have been great and some solid commanders. SoS would been even more competitive if there was more organization around its community Teamspeak.

The most interesting generalization I can make thus far is that FA and TC are quite different in their battlefield philosophies. FA really does like to play for the fights and are aggressive. TC are just those nice guy roleplayers that seem to play rather defensive. I think TC are protecting the imaginary +15 cupcake star sprinkle muffin buffs obtained from completing the complex chat interaction with the old witch in her barn outside of Speldon.

Luvpie.8350:

Can we get everyone from SoR etc leave the thread alone?

It’s just the one guy.

Aurust.8961:

Hickeroar.9734:

Aurust.8961:

I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

I look forward to the day when a former tier-2 server goes against one or more tier-1 servers. I imagine the gap isn’t as wide as you like to believe, especially considering the massive coverage gaps all your servers have (as made evident by the fact that there’s at least one time period every day where each T1 server is getting pooped on).

SOR doesnt have coverage gaps. And when we are getting “pooped on” you must realize that we are keeping an approximate 200-250 ppt ( today we were top ppt actually during SEA) against 60-80 man JQ zergs in 2 out of 3 BL’s as well as EB. Think about those numbers and how your server would fare against that.

As far as JQ and BG, they do have “coverage gaps” by tier 1 standards…. those “gaps” would be more than enough to hold territory in tier 2.

We had three 60-80 man zergs running around three maps yesterday for around 12 hours.

I’m not saying we’d BEAT SoR/BG/JQ. I’m just saying that it likely wouldn’t be the slaughter you’re imagining.

EDIT: And most of us toasters would love to face off against a T1 server, even if we did lose, just for the experience and fun of it.

Ah so much love from Aurust

TC must have some how pooped on you or something, to make you constantly sent your time on our thread

We’ll never know what will happen till it happens. So, let’s leave it at that. ;3

Runamok.9638:

I transferred over to SoS this weekend. I was interested to see how this matchup was going to play out.

It has been quite a blast! Ive taken part in every facet of WvW; zerging, small man roaming, open fielding, objective focused. So many good fights to go find.

Thus far I have been impressed with with SoS, transferring here was a good decision upon initial reflection. The people have been great and some solid commanders. SoS would been even more competitive if there was more organization around its community Teamspeak.

The most interesting generalization I can make thus far is that FA and TC are quite different in their battlefield philosophies. FA really does like to play for the fights and are aggressive. TC are just those nice guy roleplayers that seem to play rather defensive. I think TC are protecting the imaginary +15 cupcake star sprinkle muffin buffs obtained from completing the complex chat interaction with the old witch in her barn outside of Speldon.

awesome! glad you like it here. please tell friends/family to join us

Hickeroar.9734:

Aurust.8961:

Hickeroar.9734:

Aurust.8961:

I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

I look forward to the day when a former tier-2 server goes against one or more tier-1 servers. I imagine the gap isn’t as wide as you like to believe, especially considering the massive coverage gaps all your servers have (as made evident by the fact that there’s at least one time period every day where each T1 server is getting pooped on).

SOR doesnt have coverage gaps. And when we are getting “pooped on” you must realize that we are keeping an approximate 200-250 ppt ( today we were top ppt actually during SEA) against 60-80 man JQ zergs in 2 out of 3 BL’s as well as EB. Think about those numbers and how your server would fare against that.

As far as JQ and BG, they do have “coverage gaps” by tier 1 standards…. those “gaps” would be more than enough to hold territory in tier 2.

We had three 60-80 man zergs running around three maps yesterday for around 12 hours.

I’m not saying we’d BEAT SoR/BG/JQ. I’m just saying that it likely wouldn’t be the slaughter you’re imagining.

EDIT: And most of us toasters would love to face off against a T1 server, even if we did lose, just for the experience and fun of it.

Gap between TC and SOS is 30k right now. For comparisons sake, gap between SOR and BG is 25k now.

Last time TC fought BG you guys lost by 150k ( BG vs TC, vs KN week 08). Since then BG has acquired most of Kaineng’s wvw population, and BT from FA. I guess if TC since that time gobbled up a server’s worth of wvw’rs then you may be right….. it won’t be a slaughter, but I am doubtful.

Aurust.8961:

Asudementio.8526:

Aurust.8961:

I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

Gaps in timezones mate, and don’t forget TC and FA are both beating on one another as SoS goes about their business. Everyone knows the score is more complex than its face value, well everyone except kitteny SoR instigators.

So if its gaps in timezones, it solidifies my argument about the gap between tier 1 and tier 2……

Anyway gratz to SOS on a great performance so far, and gratz ( maybe ) on being the next bandwagon destination after DB implodes ( see RE recruitment thread page as the usual bandwagon suspects try to take advantage of your oceanic coverage…..

forum agitator, instigator, resides under suspended paths of mobility alert

Tell me more.

Sor is the new JQ? Interesting.

Ghedoriah.4290:

I think there are going to be some hiccups as we readjust to a matchup where we can’t get away with some of the really bad habits that have sunk in in T4 and there’s a learning curve for newer commanders who’ve never really had to have the good habits. By and large, what I’ve seen out there so far has been very encouraging though.

You live, you learn. You die, you learn FASTER.

dirtyoldgoat.5496:

Aurust.8961:

Asudementio.8526:

Aurust.8961:

I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

Gaps in timezones mate, and don’t forget TC and FA are both beating on one another as SoS goes about their business. Everyone knows the score is more complex than its face value, well everyone except kitteny SoR instigators.

So if its gaps in timezones, it solidifies my argument about the gap between tier 1 and tier 2……

Anyway gratz to SOS on a great performance so far, and gratz ( maybe ) on being the next bandwagon destination after DB implodes ( see RE recruitment thread page as the usual bandwagon suspects try to take advantage of your oceanic coverage…..

forum agitator, instigator, resides under suspended paths of mobility alert

Don’t get agitated then?

Aurust.8961:

Hickeroar.9734:

Aurust.8961:

Hickeroar.9734:

Aurust.8961:

I think the fact that SOS can stay this competitive in tier 2, shows how ridiculously large the gap is between tier 1 and tier 2……. I admit i had entertained the notion that perhaps a tier 2 server could put up a decent fight against a tier 1 server, but not anymore.

I look forward to the day when a former tier-2 server goes against one or more tier-1 servers. I imagine the gap isn’t as wide as you like to believe, especially considering the massive coverage gaps all your servers have (as made evident by the fact that there’s at least one time period every day where each T1 server is getting pooped on).

SOR doesnt have coverage gaps. And when we are getting “pooped on” you must realize that we are keeping an approximate 200-250 ppt ( today we were top ppt actually during SEA) against 60-80 man JQ zergs in 2 out of 3 BL’s as well as EB. Think about those numbers and how your server would fare against that.

As far as JQ and BG, they do have “coverage gaps” by tier 1 standards…. those “gaps” would be more than enough to hold territory in tier 2.

We had three 60-80 man zergs running around three maps yesterday for around 12 hours.

I’m not saying we’d BEAT SoR/BG/JQ. I’m just saying that it likely wouldn’t be the slaughter you’re imagining.

EDIT: And most of us toasters would love to face off against a T1 server, even if we did lose, just for the experience and fun of it.

Gap between TC and SOS is 30k right now. For comparisons sake, gap between SOR and BG is 25k now.

Last time TC fought BG you guys lost by 150k ( BG vs TC, vs KN week 08). Since then BG has acquired most of Kaineng’s wvw population, and BT from FA. I guess if TC since that time gobbled up a server’s worth of wvw’rs then you may be right….. it won’t be a slaughter, but I am doubtful.

TC gained about 900-1200 WvW transfers in the last four months. Maybe more.

So there ya go. We <3 our new toasters.

Now that I’ve woken up again, that fight last night in SMC (TC vs FA) was AMAZING. It was what, 50 minutes of solid fighting? So much fun, so much wxp, so many loot bags despawned .

I transferred from SoR to SoS this past week. I can say there is no question in my mind that SoR would simply demolish any one of these 3 servers. Their massive 24×7 forces, widespread use of community TS, and excellent commanding at all times is pretty phenomenal. Ohhh and did I mention their massive forces? I haven’t seen an equivalent to IRON, TW here. There would be many good fights, but at the end of the week the points wouldn’t be that close, but who really cares about points anyways. At some point the new matchup system will likely make this all happen and prove my predictions all wrong. SoR is just scary good.

Atrophied.8725:

Now that I’ve woken up again, that fight last night in SMC (TC vs FA) was AMAZING. It was what, 50 minutes of solid fighting? So much fun, so much wxp, so many loot bags despawned .

Would be better without the skill lag but it was definately a lot of fun!

Runamok.9638:

I transferred from SoR to SoS this past week. I can say there is no question in my mind that SoR would simply demolish any one of these 3 servers. Their massive 24×7 forces, widespread use of community TS, and excellent commanding at all times is pretty phenomenal. Ohhh and did I mention their massive forces? I haven’t seen an equivalent to IRON, TW here. There would be many good fights, but at the end of the week the points wouldn’t be that close, but who really cares about points anyways. At some point the new matchup system will likely make this all happen and prove my predictions all wrong. SoR is just scary good.

why did you transfer though if SoR is that good?

Runamok.9638:

I transferred from SoR to SoS this past week. I can say there is no question in my mind that SoR would simply demolish any one of these 3 servers. Their massive 24×7 forces, widespread use of community TS, and excellent commanding at all times is pretty phenomenal. Ohhh and did I mention their massive forces? I haven’t seen an equivalent to IRON, TW here. There would be many good fights, but at the end of the week the points wouldn’t be that close, but who really cares about points anyways. At some point the new matchup system will likely make this all happen and prove my predictions all wrong. SoR is just scary good.

yay! welcome. honestly I hope after getting may be 1-2 more NA guilds we stop getting new guilds on SoS. I just want to hangout in T3/2 bouncing between the two and enjoy the game. Most of the server community agrees that we never want to go back to T1 again.

Hickeroar.9734:

Asudementio.8526:

It is a shame the new matchmaking system is punishing some for winning and rewarding others for bullying.

You clearly don’t understand how glicko ratings work…

I don’t either.

That’s why I’m all shoot them, save us, and keep all the pointy stuff in your color. Everything else is all FINGER! MOON!

Huh. WvW really is that simple.

Aurust.8961:

SOR doesnt have coverage gaps.

It’s really funny watching a SOR player talk about coverage when everyone knows they were carried to the top spot by [IRON], an EU guild.

So, tell us more about how great Sor is and why you left it.

Excalibur.9748:

why did you transfer though if SoR is that good?

C’mon, and miss the chance to call yourself the "Sauce" instead of the "SoRry"? It’s almost as good as the Toast. Almost. *pbbbt*

Excalibur.9748:

Atrophied.8725:

Now that I’ve woken up again, that fight last night in SMC (TC vs FA) was AMAZING. It was what, 50 minutes of solid fighting? So much fun, so much wxp, so many loot bags despawned .

Would be better without the skill lag but it was definately a lot of fun!

It does get a tad irritating in a crowded Garrison/Keep/SMC fight staring at my heal skill for like 10s as I press……… press…… press, press, press, press, OH FINALLY I CAN STOP PLAYING DEAD.

Excalibur.9748:

Runamok.9638:

I transferred from SoR to SoS this past week. I can say there is no question in my mind that SoR would simply demolish any one of these 3 servers. Their massive 24×7 forces, widespread use of community TS, and excellent commanding at all times is pretty phenomenal. Ohhh and did I mention their massive forces? I haven’t seen an equivalent to IRON, TW here. There would be many good fights, but at the end of the week the points wouldn’t be that close, but who really cares about points anyways. At some point the new matchup system will likely make this all happen and prove my predictions all wrong. SoR is just scary good.

why did you transfer though if SoR is that good?

A few reasons. Mainly because SoR is just too kitten good. SoR didn’t need me, but I did learn a lot from them in a short period of time. I believe I can help contribute more to a smaller server. Also to meetup with some friends who also recently moved to SoS. Missed running around with my friends from FoE and a few other ET ex-pats!

I must say I am very impressed with SoS’s SEA presence tonight. You guys really gave us a run for our money in FABL. Hats of to TC as well. Just when we had our map nice and green again you guys came and turned it blue. Nice fights all around guys! I love our timeslot

I love how we’ve mellowed out so much we’ve had to outsource our drama.

Every server is good, everyone wins, have a cookie, eat a delicious fruit & veggie combo, fry some meat, dance dance dance, quaggans, Charlie’s house, ballistae, burning oil mastery, WXP rank 39439, Platinum Corporal, STONEMIST CASTLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Mich.3981:

Awesome fights TC and FA!! Went into this match-up not knowing what to expect, but when we can match the numbers, the fights are epic! Glad to be here, and thanks for having us!

Oh my gosh! It’s the best commander from Borlis Pass! Former commander? I mean, commander that used to command on…it’s Mich! Ranger Mich!

Hi, Mich!

Are you here to steal my cookies? Cause you shouldn’t try to steal my cookies!

After being all away for like forever, I’m gonna be Fun again tomorrow and defend them. As a zombie on the Zombie Coast! Got it all scheduled and everything.

For the cookies! And the dapper garnished toast.

Because it’s amazing.

Hope to see you out there! Doing stuff.

I think TC is smoking the good stuff today…..

SoS is so kitten humble. I like your attitude. Please make it to T2 soon so we can kick it in the Borderlands again soon.

Hadan.2841:

I think TC is smoking the good stuff today…..

Elwyn is the scary. But it’s a good scary. Not good NAGA scary. But good scary in a naked mole rat and I showed her a Tshirt way.

You had to be there. For both. Really.

To the [OP] thief who kept spamming invisibility in front of EBG’s valley keep, I laugh. I also tip my hat to you for trying. That’s what counts.

OP, please tell your thieves that spamming invisibility isn’t how you win a fight.

Asudementio.8526:

Anyway gratz to SOS on a great performance so far, and gratz ( maybe ) on being the next bandwagon destination after DB implodes ( see RE recruitment thread page as the usual bandwagon suspects try to take advantage of your oceanic coverage…..

/pass

No thanks.

I think it’s funny how since we’re all getting a long now in this tier (at least compared to weeks before) SoR people have to now come and try and stir up drama since they got nothin better to do.

Skynet.7201:

Asudementio.8526:

Anyway gratz to SOS on a great performance so far, and gratz ( maybe ) on being the next bandwagon destination after DB implodes ( see RE recruitment thread page as the usual bandwagon suspects try to take advantage of your oceanic coverage…..

/pass

No thanks.

You improperly edited that quote with nested quotes. I did not say what you have attributed to me above. Please be more careful next time i don’t want to get into the drama of character assassination.

Honestly, I didn’t know we (SoS) were this strong. I mean, I know we have great Oceanic guilds and that our NA fights well above what our numbers suggest; but this is amazing.

For all the folks from our server who poo-pooed this mismatch, I have to say I haven’t seen this many people playing WvW since we were in T1.

I think a lot of it is who we are facing as much as the challenge. TC and FA got to where they are by never say die attitudes. Neither server was blessed with large block transfers (though they have done alright in this regard over the last 2 months) but stayed competitive by simply staying tough.

We’re not going to shame ourselves by not doing the same. We will continue to come at you, using new strategies, constantly probing for weaknesses; and we will be all over you every time one of you blinks.
We aren’t going to win, but we aren’t going to make it easy either.

Remember, the Sea of Sorrows will pull you under the waves if you ever stop paddling.

Asudementio.8526:

Skynet.7201:

Asudementio.8526:

Jelly beans are my favourite thing.

What are you talking about? Sourpatch kids are the best!

Ok I can see the merits of sourpatch kids, but jelly beans are pretty awesome, too.

*whistles innocently

Chris.3290:

I think a lot of it is who we are facing as much as the challenge. TC and FA got to where they are by never say die attitudes. Neither server was blessed with large block transfers (though they have done alright in this regard over the last 2 months) but stayed competitive by simply staying tough.

We’re not going to shame ourselves by not doing the same. We will continue to come at you, using new strategies, constantly probing for weaknesses; and we will be all over you every time one of you blinks.
We aren’t going to win, but we aren’t going to make it easy either.

This is why I like fighting you, SoS. Make it as hard as you can. We won’t pull punches, and we hope you don’t just sit back and take them. Come out (and go down) fighting, every hour, every day.

[CERN] will be pushing hard into every red-name zerg we see, no matter which server you’re from. The bigger the zerg, the more we want to run into you.

Chris.3290:

Remember, the Sea of Sorrows will pull you under the waves if you ever stop paddling.

Your waves will break upon us. Your bodies will meet our steel and our fists and be thrust backwards into the abyss. We will meet you in bloodied grasses and commentaries that once stood as proud castles from which we reigned. Your bones will bend and your spirits will break in opposition to us. We are unyielding. We do not forget. You may carry the might of the sea with you but your waves will break upon our Coast and recede back to their shallows!!!!

*heaves*

Sorry ’bout that.....

*munches on cookie*

Nice to see you again, Elwyn.

Asudementio.8526:

Please be more careful next time i don’t want to get into the drama of character assassination.

Make friends with a thief. Really. We are the friendly. Stealth is for hugs!

Chris.3290:

Remember, the Sea of Sorrows will pull you under the waves if you ever stop paddling.

I like to think of it as being overwhelmed with your saucy goodness, like the KFC gravy. I still want them to serve chicken skins in a biscuit with gravy sauce. Only not with 13 herbs and spices. That’s not the finger moon licking lucky good. Ok, not like KFC at all.

But YaY SoS! And FA la la la la! And TC, natch.

AFTERNOON COFFEE YEAAAH BOOOY!