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Posted by: Beannie.5982

Beannie.5982

Quite a joke that BG which keeps stacking more guilds on 2 time zones (Oceanic & SEA), will keep whining when SOR is stacking more on their EU time zone. Doesn’t this just put us on par with your 2 timezone advantage? Or are you the only server entitled to it?

I guess its all good for them until they’re losing.

All these complains about PvDoor works both ways. BG PvDoors during their strong period, SOR PvDoors during theirs, and its just lately that JQ can’t PvDoor as well during their SEA timezone due to BG’s stack fiesta? All these useless complains.

Just play the game.

Sanctum of Rall

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Posted by: Tarkus.4109

Tarkus.4109

Quite a joke that BG which keeps stacking more guilds on 2 time zones (Oceanic & SEA), will keep whining when SOR is stacking more on their EU time zone. Doesn’t this just put us on par with your 2 timezone advantage? Or are you the only server entitled to it?

I guess its all good for them until they’re losing.

All these complains about PvDoor works both ways. BG PvDoors during their strong period, SOR PvDoors during theirs, and its just lately that JQ can’t PvDoor as well during their SEA timezone due to BG’s stack fiesta? All these useless complains.

Just play the game.

You keep saying that, but SoR has similar numbers of players in total during SEA/oceanic and I don’t think the oceanic’s/SEA on your own server (HIRE, AFS, SONG, OCX, Early EU players, Late NA players, TSYM) would appreciate calling what they do PvD, show more respect to your servermates as well as people who are matched with them. Half the reason why I don’t mind fighting SoR is due to the fact that SoR are the only two servers with a notably large Oceanic presence. Any other match-up would be boring in the GMT+10/8 timeslot.

In regards to us (MERC) being accused of zoom hacking by a previous poster (not the quoted author); I command almost every night and I think you need to get some credible evidence before you start throwing down claims that are nothing more than “he said/she said”.

Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

Frankly I don’t care

Fair play is fair play, for every player on SoR running zoom hack there’s a player on Bg and JQ also running it.

The difference is that we just deal with it while you complain about it, you know just like everything else in the match up.

Name one JQ guild that has done so, we have told everyone on server it is not allowed no matter what it is even part of our community forums lol. Considering this is SOR’s reasoning for doing so is just shameful, I have no beef with SOR but you cant blame JQ on something JQ never does and if you see us do so and that person is part of a guild let us know. Btw just by my interpretations but it seems you think zoom hacking is ok if you don’t complain about it…either way keep it classy.

Yes please Let One of the Black Gate commanders also know what Blackgate guild is doing it. To my knowlegde none have used it thus far. To my knowlegde I am one of the few commanders on Blackgate that have 3 monitors and eyefinity, just becuase I have the ability doesn’t mean I use it. So yes please screen shot or record it happening. I have never seen this issue with JQ or BG if it happens please tell a KnT, Icoa, Ruin, Rise, Merc, HB, JL commander We will make sure it is delt with as best as possiable.

I think it was JQ that took a screen shot of a RUIN member using the Underground Exploit to keep Valley Tapped for hours on end. That person has been found and no longer has a Ruin Tag. But sitting here saying you don’t complain about an obvious exploit is saying you encourage the use of Unfair/ game breaking exploits which doesn’t say much for your personal character if that is true.

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Posted by: Azure.8412

Azure.8412

Quite a joke that BG which keeps stacking more guilds on 2 time zones (Oceanic & SEA), will keep whining when SOR is stacking more on their EU time zone. Doesn’t this just put us on par with your 2 timezone advantage? Or are you the only server entitled to it?

I guess its all good for them until they’re losing.

All these complains about PvDoor works both ways. BG PvDoors during their strong period, SOR PvDoors during theirs, and its just lately that JQ can’t PvDoor as well during their SEA timezone due to BG’s stack fiesta? All these useless complains.

Just play the game.

You keep saying that, but SoR has similar numbers of players in total during SEA/oceanic and I don’t think the oceanic’s/SEA on your own server (HIRE, AFS, SONG, OCX, Early EU players, Late NA players, TSYM) would appreciate calling what they do PvD, show more respect to your servermates as well as people who are matched with them. Half the reason why I don’t mind fighting SoR is due to the fact that SoR are the only two servers with a notably large Oceanic presence. Any other match-up would be boring in the GMT+10/8 timeslot.

In regards to us (MERC) being accused of zoom hacking by a previous poster (not the quoted author); I command almost every night and I think you need to get some credible evidence before you start throwing down claims that are nothing more than “he said/she said”.

Similar…
OCX – 10 – Occasional Raids
AFS – 10-20 Daily Raids
NYS – 15-30 Occasional Raids
SAHP – 15-20 Occasional Raids
SONG – 10+
HIRE – 20-30 Daily Raids but rarely ever go into SEA

BG, ON the other hand…
MERC – 30-40 Daily and venture into SEA as well
WM – 15-20
ND and ND – 30+
Urge – 20-30
CA – 20-30
XF – 25-30
Thai – 20-30

Equal, definitely, considering sometimes SAHP and NYS don’t even go on raids, like today. No wonder you are ticking 300+.

Vorae [GC] – Necromancer
Sanctum Of Rall.

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Posted by: malakor.3274

malakor.3274

ERROR WITH VIMEO API! VIDEO DOES NOT EXIST? VIDEO NOT ALLOWED TO EMBED?

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Posted by: Tarkus.4109

Tarkus.4109

Similar…
OCX – 10 – Occasional Raids
AFS – 10-20 Daily Raids
NYS – 15-30 Occasional Raids
SAHP – 15-20 Occasional Raids
SONG – 10+
HIRE – 20-30 Daily Raids but rarely ever go into SEA
(TSYM – 15)
(IRON – Early EU – 15-20)

BG, ON the other hand…
MERC – 30-40 Daily and venture into SEA as well (15-20 Oceanic; 20-25 SEA; 15 EU; Consistent)
WM – 15-20 (15-20; may play in NA so not play in SEA)
ND and ND – 30+(20-30 SEA; Consistent)
Urge – 20-30 (~15-20; SEA; Doesn’t play every night)
CA – 20-30 (~15-20 CA; late NA-SEA; consistent)
XF – 25-30 (~20 SEA; Consistent)
Thai – 20-30 (15-20; Occasionally raids into EU; not generally running in SEA)

Equal, definitely, considering sometimes SAHP and NYS don’t even go on raids.

Corrected in Brackets, everyone presumes numbers are higheer than they really are considering the length of red names. You also have to consider PuGs as well, as SoR is known for having NA militia stay up, for example TSYM and having NA get up early (TW). Same thing happens in BG to a degree, I’m not going to dispute it – but everyone likes to play the underdog and I think SoRs oceanic/SEA need to stop thinking that they are somehow outmanned when they run map zergs.

Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

Screenshot taken from the eyefinity link on gw2 forums. So what’s your point again?

Post an eyefinity screenshot showing how it’s possible to target inside the lord room of hills with an AC.

Oh wait.. it’s not possible to see inside with eyefinity alone, you actually have to zoom out.

You mean something like this? Note: NO eyefinity
In the second one, LOOK you can SEE above the gate, meaning you can shoot there, including any trebs placed in that general area.

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Posted by: XIII.6351

XIII.6351

Screenshot taken from the eyefinity link on gw2 forums. So what’s your point again?

Post an eyefinity screenshot showing how it’s possible to target inside the lord room of hills with an AC.

Oh wait.. it’s not possible to see inside with eyefinity alone, you actually have to zoom out.

I heard rotating camera works in this game, oh not to mention the increase range and radius of arrow carts in ranks.

Only way to solve this kitten whining on ac is Anet putting Line Of Sight on arrowcarts. Because the ac dynamics doesnt even make any sense.

Arcanum [Sanctum Of Roger “Oldroar” Rall]
`Warrior/ `Necromancer/ `Guardian
That’s how it goes wrong, people think they’re fcking heroes.- Sacrx[Red Guard]

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Posted by: Azure.8412

Azure.8412

Similar…
OCX – 10 – Occasional Raids
AFS – 10-20 Daily Raids
NYS – 15-30 Occasional Raids
SAHP – 15-20 Occasional Raids
SONG – 10+
HIRE – 20-30 Daily Raids but rarely ever go into SEA
(TSYM – 15)
(IRON – Early EU – 15-20)

BG, ON the other hand…
MERC – 30-40 Daily and venture into SEA as well (15-20 Oceanic; 20-25 SEA; 15 EU; Consistent)
WM – 15-20 (15-20; may play in NA so not play in SEA)
ND and ND – 30+(20-30 SEA; Consistent)
Urge – 20-30 (~15-20; SEA; Doesn’t play every night)
CA – 20-30 (~15-20 CA; late NA-SEA; consistent)
XF – 25-30 (~20 SEA; Consistent)
Thai – 20-30 (15-20; Occasionally raids into EU; not generally running in SEA)

Equal, definitely, considering sometimes SAHP and NYS don’t even go on raids.

Corrected in Brackets, everyone presumes numbers are higheer than they really are considering the length of red names. You also have to consider PuGs as well, as SoR is known for having NA militia stay up, for example TSYM and having NA get up early (TW). Same thing happens in BG to a degree, I’m not going to dispute it – but everyone likes to play the underdog and I think SoRs oceanic/SEA need to stop thinking that they are somehow outmanned when they run map zergs.

Sorry, but I highly doubt your oceanic force is 15-20. More so 30+. With militia, about 40. HIRE usually runs about 40-50 as well.

Vorae [GC] – Necromancer
Sanctum Of Rall.

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Posted by: Tarkus.4109

Tarkus.4109

Sorry, but I highly doubt your oceanic force is 15-20. More so 30+. With militia, about 40. HIRE usually runs about 40-50 as well.

Oceanic MERC force is ~15 we usually have 30 players in total due to the fact we are the only tag on 3 maps. I rarely command in SEA as I tend to focus on the hard timezones (OC and EU where we are usually outmanned).

Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]

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Posted by: Cirus.5748

Cirus.5748

Similar…
OCX – 10 – Occasional Raids
AFS – 10-20 Daily Raids
NYS – 15-30 Occasional Raids
SAHP – 15-20 Occasional Raids
SONG – 10+
HIRE – 20-30 Daily Raids but rarely ever go into SEA
(TSYM – 15)
(IRON – Early EU – 15-20)

BG, ON the other hand…
MERC – 30-40 Daily and venture into SEA as well (15-20 Oceanic; 20-25 SEA; 15 EU; Consistent)
WM – 15-20 (15-20; may play in NA so not play in SEA)
ND and ND – 30+(20-30 SEA; Consistent)
Urge – 20-30 (~15-20; SEA; Doesn’t play every night)
CA – 20-30 (~15-20 CA; late NA-SEA; consistent)
XF – 25-30 (~20 SEA; Consistent)
Thai – 20-30 (15-20; Occasionally raids into EU; not generally running in SEA)

Equal, definitely, considering sometimes SAHP and NYS don’t even go on raids.

Corrected in Brackets, everyone presumes numbers are higheer than they really are considering the length of red names. You also have to consider PuGs as well, as SoR is known for having NA militia stay up, for example TSYM and having NA get up early (TW). Same thing happens in BG to a degree, I’m not going to dispute it – but everyone likes to play the underdog and I think SoRs oceanic/SEA need to stop thinking that they are somehow outmanned when they run map zergs.

Last Wednesday night in Oceanic primetime, SoR had 3 maps with a 50-60+ force pushing or defending on EB, SoR BL, and BG BL, simultaneously. We know this because our maps are in constant communication with each other.This is at approximately 9:00pm at +10 GMT (AEST) or 4am PST.

The Oceanic and SEA coverage on Sanctum of Rall is at least as formidable as Blackgate’s. Since IRON has joined SOR, the morale of SoR has been high and SoR has had large turn outs every night, being able to fill 2-3 maps, just like Blackgate.

Vanguard Of Exiled Mercenaries – Blackgate

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Posted by: MagiKarp.8201

MagiKarp.8201

MERC is the only Oceanic force that runs every day on BG.

CA is a new guild, started recently which plays through Oceanic with us, their help is much appreciated.

MERC fields 10-20 during Oceanic and in fact fields our biggest numbers in SEA not Oceanic.

Magikarps Norn Ele – becuz leopard
Blackgate WvW Commander
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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

Screenshot taken from the eyefinity link on gw2 forums. So what’s your point again?

Post an eyefinity screenshot showing how it’s possible to target inside the lord room of hills with an AC.

Oh wait.. it’s not possible to see inside with eyefinity alone, you actually have to zoom out.

You mean something like this? Note: NO eyefinity

LOL your standing right by the door, this is your defense now try standing around the corner like which was in the video, better yet try standing right against the tower face and aiming a AC into the courtyard with out it.

Here is a simple question
Is the Location of many screen shots and videos of the FEAR commander using an arrow cart possiable without eyefinity?

If the answer is NO, then you need to read Arena Nets policy on Exploits and how the define them. After you read it you will find that this is considered an exploit.

If your answer is yes please provide Screen shots or videos of this being possiable without Eyefinity.

An easy fix to this would be add Line of sight to the Arrowcarts. With this added in Eyefinity or not AC’s will not be allowed to be fired through stone or wood walls. Then again the longer Arena Net decideds to do nothing about it the more people will just simply stop playing the game. I mean WvW is becoming a bit dull anyhow with the same old maps. Now there is an obvious Exploit they are doing nothing about, and to justify it by saying it is possiable with this software is ridiculous when only 3 % if that has and uses it of the total population of players that play GW2.

I mean to all the SoR and other players that defend this exploit and say it is not need I remind you of the mass perma ban that went out in Month 2 of this game.

Karma Vendors sold yellow level 80 weapons for 45 Karma ( maybe 70 but below 100 karma ). Players bought the weapons and used the mystic forge to make them into Exotics. Now the yellows sold for 2 silver a piece ( to the vendor and 50 copper is that on the TP )the exotics sold for 45 silver to the Vendors and 2 to 5 gold on the TP. This was an oversight of Arena Net, there was absolutly no player fault here, yet 4k players got a perma Ban unless they openly apologized on the fourms for exploting. Question is why has Arena Net not done anything about this, Maybe it is becuase the Dev’s all play on SoR ( not sure what guild). Although I will say the more people that constaintly report this as a bug and a violation to the game the faster something will be done.

I personally hope anyone taking advatage of this exploit is perma banned be it BG members or JQ or SoR or ET. I run Eyefinity with 3 monitors but I will not use this exploit as I know I can not achiev this with out the use of the program. Then again I apparently am just a more good sportsman like player apparently.

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Posted by: SykkoB.9465

SykkoB.9465

im not sure i agree with the use of eyefinity BUT!!!!!!! its anet games and if they say its ok to use i cannot tell ppl not to use it

UNtill anet changes there mind and tells ppl eyefinity will no longer be supported by anet ppl will continue to use it

now start bashing anet and making post explaining why it should be removed for fair play so we can all get back to having fun and playing the dam game

SykkoB[Twl]
SOR

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Posted by: Tajz.9826

Tajz.9826

Anet didnot saying ok, you are wrong. That thread just stated about eyeinfinite problem in general but not mention anything about using it to arrowcart zoomhack backline sieges. You guys just being complete trolls or being bias for your server. I dont see how using arrowcart zoomhack either by eyeinfinite or not is legit at all. It’s an exploit, go reread its definition.

@Azure, lol. You need to get that number on the chart right. Completely bias toward your arguement benefit. We arent having that many. Thai run casually now and has no more than average of 5-15 on SEA at anyday unless allcall once in a bluemoon. And on EU we usually have like 5 being pugs follow other cmds.

[LP][HB]Nirvii, Proud Elementalist of Thai Alliance
Commander of Blackgate
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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

im not sure i agree with the use of eyefinity BUT!!!!!!! its anet games and if they say its ok to use i cannot tell ppl not to use it

UNtill anet changes there mind and tells ppl eyefinity will no longer be supported by anet ppl will continue to use it

now start bashing anet and making post explaining why it should be removed for fair play so we can all get back to having fun and playing the dam game

I don’t think they nees to remove the use of Eyefinity, people need to stop blaming the program. Also to say well it is there so why not use it is like saying where here is a sidearm with a bullet hmmm I should pick it up and shot someone. ( yes that is an over dramatization of the situation ) but the fact of the example still holds true. Eyefinity was added to allow an emersive game play to the players. I promise this premise of fireing into places that someone not using the software can not do was not the intended projection of allowing the use of this sofware. But people can argue that point all day and get no where.

The real solution is to just add Line of Sight to the AC’s that way Eyefinity users do not have to be punished for the poor ethics of FEAR commanders and FEAR commanders can no longer PvD something while he removes all sige that would disallow the PVD to take place. Although I am not sure how the FEAR commander would Fair in WvW if they did this.

On a lasting note yes you can not tell people not to use it in hopes they listen, but you can reconize those that do use it and not follow them. I mean FEAR exploiters are not SoR but in case you haven’t noticed they do represent SoR and no matter how many good things we hear about SoR people tend to latchonto the bad things. I would figure that SoR would try to nip that in the bud. But what have you, support cheap play tarnish your own reputation.

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Posted by: Jet.4795

Jet.4795

Screenshot taken from the eyefinity link on gw2 forums. So what’s your point again?

Post an eyefinity screenshot showing how it’s possible to target inside the lord room of hills with an AC.

Oh wait.. it’s not possible to see inside with eyefinity alone, you actually have to zoom out.

You mean something like this? Note: NO eyefinity
In the second one, LOOK you can SEE above the gate, meaning you can shoot there, including any trebs placed in that general area.

wrong spots

Ben Sheets Reborn
Phoenixes Reborn [PR] Commander
“Never give up till the last man is down!”

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

Screenshot taken from the eyefinity link on gw2 forums. So what’s your point again?

Post an eyefinity screenshot showing how it’s possible to target inside the lord room of hills with an AC.

Oh wait.. it’s not possible to see inside with eyefinity alone, you actually have to zoom out.

You mean something like this? Note: NO eyefinity

LOL your standing right by the door, this is your defense now try standing around the corner like which was in the video, better yet try standing right against the tower face and aiming a AC into the courtyard with out it.

Here is a simple question
Is the Location of many screen shots and videos of the FEAR commander using an arrow cart possiable without eyefinity?

If the answer is NO, then you need to read Arena Nets policy on Exploits and how the define them. After you read it you will find that this is considered an exploit.

If your answer is yes please provide Screen shots or videos of this being possiable without Eyefinity.

An easy fix to this would be add Line of sight to the Arrowcarts. With this added in Eyefinity or not AC’s will not be allowed to be fired through stone or wood walls. Then again the longer Arena Net decideds to do nothing about it the more people will just simply stop playing the game. I mean WvW is becoming a bit dull anyhow with the same old maps. Now there is an obvious Exploit they are doing nothing about, and to justify it by saying it is possiable with this software is ridiculous when only 3 % if that has and uses it of the total population of players that play GW2.

I mean to all the SoR and other players that defend this exploit and say it is not need I remind you of the mass perma ban that went out in Month 2 of this game.

Karma Vendors sold yellow level 80 weapons for 45 Karma ( maybe 70 but below 100 karma ). Players bought the weapons and used the mystic forge to make them into Exotics. Now the yellows sold for 2 silver a piece ( to the vendor and 50 copper is that on the TP )the exotics sold for 45 silver to the Vendors and 2 to 5 gold on the TP. This was an oversight of Arena Net, there was absolutly no player fault here, yet 4k players got a perma Ban unless they openly apologized on the fourms for exploting. Question is why has Arena Net not done anything about this, Maybe it is becuase the Dev’s all play on SoR ( not sure what guild). Although I will say the more people that constaintly report this as a bug and a violation to the game the faster something will be done.

I personally hope anyone taking advatage of this exploit is perma banned be it BG members or JQ or SoR or ET. I run Eyefinity with 3 monitors but I will not use this exploit as I know I can not achiev this with out the use of the program. Then again I apparently am just a more good sportsman like player apparently.

You mean right here?

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Posted by: SykkoB.9465

SykkoB.9465

again dude if anet is allowing the use of it PPL will use it

you cant say u can use it for pve but HEY if ur on a ac u cant it doesnt work that way

they need to just remove it and say u will be banned if u do use it and be done with it

I DO NOT USE EYEfinity because it just doesnt feel right but i cant blame ppl for using it if anet allows it

SykkoB[Twl]
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Posted by: Nightcrawler.3219

Nightcrawler.3219

Screenshot taken from the eyefinity link on gw2 forums. So what’s your point again?

Post an eyefinity screenshot showing how it’s possible to target inside the lord room of hills with an AC.

Oh wait.. it’s not possible to see inside with eyefinity alone, you actually have to zoom out.

You mean something like this? Note: NO eyefinity
In the second one, LOOK you can SEE above the gate, meaning you can shoot there, including any trebs placed in that general area.

You can see the treb, but can you target the ground and not the wall? Because just targeting the wall infront of the treb wouldn’t reach the treb.

Nytcrawler

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Posted by: Jet.4795

Jet.4795

Screenshot taken from the eyefinity link on gw2 forums. So what’s your point again?

Post an eyefinity screenshot showing how it’s possible to target inside the lord room of hills with an AC.

Oh wait.. it’s not possible to see inside with eyefinity alone, you actually have to zoom out.

You mean something like this? Note: NO eyefinity

LOL your standing right by the door, this is your defense now try standing around the corner like which was in the video, better yet try standing right against the tower face and aiming a AC into the courtyard with out it.

Here is a simple question
Is the Location of many screen shots and videos of the FEAR commander using an arrow cart possiable without eyefinity?

If the answer is NO, then you need to read Arena Nets policy on Exploits and how the define them. After you read it you will find that this is considered an exploit.

If your answer is yes please provide Screen shots or videos of this being possiable without Eyefinity.

An easy fix to this would be add Line of sight to the Arrowcarts. With this added in Eyefinity or not AC’s will not be allowed to be fired through stone or wood walls. Then again the longer Arena Net decideds to do nothing about it the more people will just simply stop playing the game. I mean WvW is becoming a bit dull anyhow with the same old maps. Now there is an obvious Exploit they are doing nothing about, and to justify it by saying it is possiable with this software is ridiculous when only 3 % if that has and uses it of the total population of players that play GW2.

I mean to all the SoR and other players that defend this exploit and say it is not need I remind you of the mass perma ban that went out in Month 2 of this game.

Karma Vendors sold yellow level 80 weapons for 45 Karma ( maybe 70 but below 100 karma ). Players bought the weapons and used the mystic forge to make them into Exotics. Now the yellows sold for 2 silver a piece ( to the vendor and 50 copper is that on the TP )the exotics sold for 45 silver to the Vendors and 2 to 5 gold on the TP. This was an oversight of Arena Net, there was absolutly no player fault here, yet 4k players got a perma Ban unless they openly apologized on the fourms for exploting. Question is why has Arena Net not done anything about this, Maybe it is becuase the Dev’s all play on SoR ( not sure what guild). Although I will say the more people that constaintly report this as a bug and a violation to the game the faster something will be done.

I personally hope anyone taking advatage of this exploit is perma banned be it BG members or JQ or SoR or ET. I run Eyefinity with 3 monitors but I will not use this exploit as I know I can not achiev this with out the use of the program. Then again I apparently am just a more good sportsman like player apparently.

You mean right here?

Further to your left Auroma from JQ SF posted a video on forums it showed the exact spots unfortunately the video got taken down in 5 hrs will send you video via forum mail.

Ben Sheets Reborn
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“Never give up till the last man is down!”

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

Screenshot taken from the eyefinity link on gw2 forums. So what’s your point again?

Post an eyefinity screenshot showing how it’s possible to target inside the lord room of hills with an AC.

Oh wait.. it’s not possible to see inside with eyefinity alone, you actually have to zoom out.

You mean something like this? Note: NO eyefinity

LOL your standing right by the door, this is your defense now try standing around the corner like which was in the video, better yet try standing right against the tower face and aiming a AC into the courtyard with out it.

Here is a simple question
Is the Location of many screen shots and videos of the FEAR commander using an arrow cart possiable without eyefinity?

If the answer is NO, then you need to read Arena Nets policy on Exploits and how the define them. After you read it you will find that this is considered an exploit.

If your answer is yes please provide Screen shots or videos of this being possiable without Eyefinity.

An easy fix to this would be add Line of sight to the Arrowcarts. With this added in Eyefinity or not AC’s will not be allowed to be fired through stone or wood walls. Then again the longer Arena Net decideds to do nothing about it the more people will just simply stop playing the game. I mean WvW is becoming a bit dull anyhow with the same old maps. Now there is an obvious Exploit they are doing nothing about, and to justify it by saying it is possiable with this software is ridiculous when only 3 % if that has and uses it of the total population of players that play GW2.

I mean to all the SoR and other players that defend this exploit and say it is not need I remind you of the mass perma ban that went out in Month 2 of this game.

Karma Vendors sold yellow level 80 weapons for 45 Karma ( maybe 70 but below 100 karma ). Players bought the weapons and used the mystic forge to make them into Exotics. Now the yellows sold for 2 silver a piece ( to the vendor and 50 copper is that on the TP )the exotics sold for 45 silver to the Vendors and 2 to 5 gold on the TP. This was an oversight of Arena Net, there was absolutly no player fault here, yet 4k players got a perma Ban unless they openly apologized on the fourms for exploting. Question is why has Arena Net not done anything about this, Maybe it is becuase the Dev’s all play on SoR ( not sure what guild). Although I will say the more people that constaintly report this as a bug and a violation to the game the faster something will be done.

I personally hope anyone taking advatage of this exploit is perma banned be it BG members or JQ or SoR or ET. I run Eyefinity with 3 monitors but I will not use this exploit as I know I can not achiev this with out the use of the program. Then again I apparently am just a more good sportsman like player apparently.

You mean right here?

Your second picture is closer to the spot and thank you for showing that you cannot see inside the courtyard.

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

Screenshot taken from the eyefinity link on gw2 forums. So what’s your point again?

Post an eyefinity screenshot showing how it’s possible to target inside the lord room of hills with an AC.

Oh wait.. it’s not possible to see inside with eyefinity alone, you actually have to zoom out.

You mean something like this? Note: NO eyefinity
In the second one, LOOK you can SEE above the gate, meaning you can shoot there, including any trebs placed in that general area.

You can see the treb, but can you target the ground and not the wall? Because just targeting the wall infront of the treb wouldn’t reach the treb.

I believe you can if you use the AC on the white spots, but I’m not going to waste 30 supply to test it out.

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

Screenshot taken from the eyefinity link on gw2 forums. So what’s your point again?

Post an eyefinity screenshot showing how it’s possible to target inside the lord room of hills with an AC.

Oh wait.. it’s not possible to see inside with eyefinity alone, you actually have to zoom out.

You mean something like this? Note: NO eyefinity

LOL your standing right by the door, this is your defense now try standing around the corner like which was in the video, better yet try standing right against the tower face and aiming a AC into the courtyard with out it.

Here is a simple question
Is the Location of many screen shots and videos of the FEAR commander using an arrow cart possiable without eyefinity?

If the answer is NO, then you need to read Arena Nets policy on Exploits and how the define them. After you read it you will find that this is considered an exploit.

If your answer is yes please provide Screen shots or videos of this being possiable without Eyefinity.

An easy fix to this would be add Line of sight to the Arrowcarts. With this added in Eyefinity or not AC’s will not be allowed to be fired through stone or wood walls. Then again the longer Arena Net decideds to do nothing about it the more people will just simply stop playing the game. I mean WvW is becoming a bit dull anyhow with the same old maps. Now there is an obvious Exploit they are doing nothing about, and to justify it by saying it is possiable with this software is ridiculous when only 3 % if that has and uses it of the total population of players that play GW2.

I mean to all the SoR and other players that defend this exploit and say it is not need I remind you of the mass perma ban that went out in Month 2 of this game.

Karma Vendors sold yellow level 80 weapons for 45 Karma ( maybe 70 but below 100 karma ). Players bought the weapons and used the mystic forge to make them into Exotics. Now the yellows sold for 2 silver a piece ( to the vendor and 50 copper is that on the TP )the exotics sold for 45 silver to the Vendors and 2 to 5 gold on the TP. This was an oversight of Arena Net, there was absolutly no player fault here, yet 4k players got a perma Ban unless they openly apologized on the fourms for exploting. Question is why has Arena Net not done anything about this, Maybe it is becuase the Dev’s all play on SoR ( not sure what guild). Although I will say the more people that constaintly report this as a bug and a violation to the game the faster something will be done.

I personally hope anyone taking advatage of this exploit is perma banned be it BG members or JQ or SoR or ET. I run Eyefinity with 3 monitors but I will not use this exploit as I know I can not achiev this with out the use of the program. Then again I apparently am just a more good sportsman like player apparently.

You mean right here?

Your second picture is closer to the spot and thank you for showing that you cannot see inside the courtyard.

The second picture is to show the inner ac. Look on the mini map. I was at the inner gates.

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Posted by: Liquid.9672

Liquid.9672

I’ve always been curious about that AC on the outside of the Hills lord room. Is that getting LOS through the hallway somehow or is it shooting through the wall? I’ve seen them used against us on the other side (south side of the door) as well.

The whole offensive arrow cart thing during keep/tower siege has really been kitten ing me off lately.

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

I’ve always been curious about that AC on the outside of the Hills lord room. Is that getting LOS through the hallway somehow or is it shooting through the wall? I’ve seen them used against us on the other side (south side of the door) as well.

The whole offensive arrow cart thing during keep/tower siege has really been kitten ing me off lately.

Acs don’t have LOS, so if you can see it, you can hit it.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

again dude if anet is allowing the use of it PPL will use it

you cant say u can use it for pve but HEY if ur on a ac u cant it doesnt work that way

they need to just remove it and say u will be banned if u do use it and be done with it

I DO NOT USE EYEfinity because it just doesnt feel right but i cant blame ppl for using it if anet allows it

That is just it you don’t need to remove the Softwar support, why? Becuase some FEAR commander exploits it every chance he gets. What about users like my self that run it and do not exploit it?

Adding a Line of Sight Machanic to the Ac’s will solve this issue straight foward, with out the use of un-supporting the software. Although till that day comes they need to be banning people for exploiting the use of it.

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Posted by: Jet.4795

Jet.4795

again dude if anet is allowing the use of it PPL will use it

you cant say u can use it for pve but HEY if ur on a ac u cant it doesnt work that way

they need to just remove it and say u will be banned if u do use it and be done with it

I DO NOT USE EYEfinity because it just doesnt feel right but i cant blame ppl for using it if anet allows it

That is just it you don’t need to remove the Softwar support, why? Becuase some FEAR commander exploits it every chance he gets. What about users like my self that run it and do not exploit it?

Adding a Line of Sight Machanic to the Ac’s will solve this issue straight foward, with out the use of un-supporting the software. Although till that day comes they need to be banning people for exploiting the use of it.

+1

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Posted by: Aurust.8961

Aurust.8961

BG has more than a sizable EU force. The problem with them is that they only hop into wvwvw when one of the HB commander shows up (from what I’ve gathered). BG actually has a lot of pugs floating about in EU. If you guys can actually recruit those guys into larger guilds, you’ll have an EU force to be reckoned with. Not sure if the extra bodies I’ve been seeing is from the overtime or not, but since so many BGs insist they aren’t pulling overtime, I’ll just assume those guys in the EU time zone aren’t guys pulling overtime. This means BG does indeed have a larger, but more unorganized EU force than SoR.

I wouldn’t call it overtime; we just love the game. But yeah, a lot of us are willing to put in the extra effort to win by pushing into the later time zones. The sentiment that actually trying for your win is somehow a bad thing is ludicrous.

BG trying is itself a ludicrous concept…..

The blackhole only tries to eat and destroy guilds…. dot dot dot

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Posted by: Liquid.9672

Liquid.9672

I’ve always been curious about that AC on the outside of the Hills lord room. Is that getting LOS through the hallway somehow or is it shooting through the wall? I’ve seen them used against us on the other side (south side of the door) as well.

The whole offensive arrow cart thing during keep/tower siege has really been kitten ing me off lately.

Acs don’t have LOS, so if you can see it, you can hit it.

That’s what I meant, just bad choice of words. I mean, is it getting a target via a viewing angle down the tunnel? From the placement of it in that video, I don’t see how that’s possible, even with eyefinity or window mode stretching. Maybe it is I’ve never tried it, nor would I as I think it’s stupid.

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

again dude if anet is allowing the use of it PPL will use it

you cant say u can use it for pve but HEY if ur on a ac u cant it doesnt work that way

they need to just remove it and say u will be banned if u do use it and be done with it

I DO NOT USE EYEfinity because it just doesnt feel right but i cant blame ppl for using it if anet allows it

That is just it you don’t need to remove the Softwar support, why? Becuase some FEAR commander exploits it every chance he gets. What about users like my self that run it and do not exploit it?

Adding a Line of Sight Machanic to the Ac’s will solve this issue straight foward, with out the use of un-supporting the software. Although till that day comes they need to be banning people for exploiting the use of it.

Agreed, but adding a LOS to the AC’s would make using them for defense a bit more tricky. The better alternative would be to set them up like trebs. 1 and 3 to rotate (give it a faster rotary speed) and 2 to adjust the power as needed (make it charge a lot faster than the trebs) while the utility slots are for changing the type of ammo the ac uses.
As for the banning, I highly doubt anet would do such a thing. Unlike the whole karma incident, this has been going on for quite some time. Anet knows about it, people qq about it, and well, nothing has been done or said about it. Would actually be kind of a kitten move to ban people for this actually.
“HEY look, we provide support for eyefinity! So now you can see more!”
“Oh, cool, I can actually see inside of keeps, I wonder if using an ac would be better.”
-Several posts popped up asking about eyefinity
-Anet says nothing about it
-Some people decide it’s ok, and start using it
-Anet out of the blues just bans people
Yea doesn’t sound right.

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Posted by: Zagan.5287

Zagan.5287

you guys talk too much, less forums do more work.

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

I’ve always been curious about that AC on the outside of the Hills lord room. Is that getting LOS through the hallway somehow or is it shooting through the wall? I’ve seen them used against us on the other side (south side of the door) as well.

The whole offensive arrow cart thing during keep/tower siege has really been kitten ing me off lately.

Acs don’t have LOS, so if you can see it, you can hit it.

That’s what I meant, just bad choice of words. I mean, is it getting a target via a viewing angle down the tunnel? From the placement of it in that video, I don’t see how that’s possible, even with eyefinity or window mode stretching. Maybe it is I’ve never tried it, nor would I as I think it’s stupid.

Oh, you mean the third spot from the video? As for that one, I had no idea what they were shooting at, nor where the siege is inside lords room, so there is no way of me testing it. It is possible that he is shooting at the walls itself which would allow him to hit the siege on the second level of the lords room, as the walls aren’t very thick. This is also why guardian staff one is useful, as they can just face the walls and hit everyone through the wall. If he was using it to hit, say the tunnel, then idk, I’d have to test it when I have more time.

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Posted by: Tiesto.9084

Tiesto.9084

I think FEAR>RG>TW>IRON

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Posted by: Fade.7658

Fade.7658

This is only my opinion, but it seems to me the complaining by BG this week is especially strong, is that last week, they won, and likely felt they had command of the tier back, and so far, it’s proving not to be the case.

Frankly, I wish the communities were like what DAoC had back in the day. I remember very little bickering on the Guinevere forums between the three factions. Here, it seems like three fat children, fighting over an ice cream cone, and not realizing that it melted while they were bickering.

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Posted by: Nuked.2360

Nuked.2360

I’ve always been curious about that AC on the outside of the Hills lord room. Is that getting LOS through the hallway somehow or is it shooting through the wall? I’ve seen them used against us on the other side (south side of the door) as well.

The whole offensive arrow cart thing during keep/tower siege has really been kitten ing me off lately.

It’s used through the wall there is a bug that allows it to happen if placed correctly. I won’t go into it anymore cause we don’t need more people doing so.

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Posted by: Neuromancer.2148

Neuromancer.2148

No, its especially strong because what was already a fairly balanced matchup is now threatened because of a large population influx in the most crucial timezone of the game. Seriously, had SoR made an earnest push last week, they could have close the gap to the low thousands, or even stolen the win from BG.

Besides, except for ONE vocal troll, people are just pointing out that the EU transfer is not the best thing that could have happened for the tier. The complaints come in when one server posts blatant misinformation and lies about another.

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Posted by: Fade.7658

Fade.7658

It’s still the weekend. No one really knows how things will pan out during the rest of the match-up. I don’t know a lot about the transfers, but from what I read in chat, at least one of them is a smaller guild, that prefers small team action.

People are complaining before it actually happens.

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Posted by: fade.8603

fade.8603

Its the AC where you place to hit hills walls and inner gate. Someone placed an AC there and hit inner

someone already tested that certain programs allow you to see OVER the wall.
This could not be done without any 3rd party and any 3rd party that allows this is definitely not intended for the use of AC. Do agree that we cannot stop ppl from using it but the intention to use it is wrong and trying to justify it makes it worse.

Its the intention of the user not the program.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

again dude if anet is allowing the use of it PPL will use it

you cant say u can use it for pve but HEY if ur on a ac u cant it doesnt work that way

they need to just remove it and say u will be banned if u do use it and be done with it

I DO NOT USE EYEfinity because it just doesnt feel right but i cant blame ppl for using it if anet allows it

That is just it you don’t need to remove the Softwar support, why? Becuase some FEAR commander exploits it every chance he gets. What about users like my self that run it and do not exploit it?

Adding a Line of Sight Machanic to the Ac’s will solve this issue straight foward, with out the use of un-supporting the software. Although till that day comes they need to be banning people for exploiting the use of it.

Agreed, but adding a LOS to the AC’s would make using them for defense a bit more tricky. The better alternative would be to set them up like trebs. 1 and 3 to rotate (give it a faster rotary speed) and 2 to adjust the power as needed (make it charge a lot faster than the trebs) while the utility slots are for changing the type of ammo the ac uses.
As for the banning, I highly doubt anet would do such a thing. Unlike the whole karma incident, this has been going on for quite some time. Anet knows about it, people qq about it, and well, nothing has been done or said about it. Would actually be kind of a kitten move to ban people for this actually.
“HEY look, we provide support for eyefinity! So now you can see more!”
“Oh, cool, I can actually see inside of keeps, I wonder if using an ac would be better.”
-Several posts popped up asking about eyefinity
-Anet says nothing about it
-Some people decide it’s ok, and start using it
-Anet out of the blues just bans people
Yea doesn’t sound right.

Your new to this game aren’t you.

That was a huge thing when they banned people for exploiting the karma merchant. The 4k ban was out of the blue, maybe you should research it a little. In fact I am sure you can find something on youtube about it.

If you think that adding a LoS to Ac’s would maing it tricky to use them for defense you should probally learn what Line of Sight means.

Also if Arena Net doesn’t see an issue with eyefinity and the way Arrow carts are used they would not have removed the video that was linked earlier. The only reasons why they would have removed it would be

  • it was abusive or slanderous to a player ( which it wasn’t )
  • or it detailed exploitable issues.
    ::EDIT::
    Infact I posted a screen shot two match ups ago that had the FEAR commander targeted ( same one in the video ) and showed where he was and where he wakittenting and it was deleted for showing exploits and how players should refrain from doing this as it shows players how to do it. That and I should report them with videos or screen shots to the proper email and not to broadcast it on the fourms.

But your right they see no issues with this, the true question is if they acknowledge this is an exploit and take every measure to remove any evidance of this happening then why not do something about it ?

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Posted by: Vash.9183

Vash.9183

Quite a joke that BG which keeps stacking more guilds on 2 time zones (Oceanic & SEA), will keep whining when SOR is stacking more on their EU time zone. Doesn’t this just put us on par with your 2 timezone advantage? Or are you the only server entitled to it?

I guess its all good for them until they’re losing.

All these complains about PvDoor works both ways. BG PvDoors during their strong period, SOR PvDoors during theirs, and its just lately that JQ can’t PvDoor as well during their SEA timezone due to BG’s stack fiesta? All these useless complains.

Just play the game.

You keep saying that, but SoR has similar numbers of players in total during SEA/oceanic and I don’t think the oceanic’s/SEA on your own server (HIRE, AFS, SONG, OCX, Early EU players, Late NA players, TSYM) would appreciate calling what they do PvD, show more respect to your servermates as well as people who are matched with them. Half the reason why I don’t mind fighting SoR is due to the fact that SoR are the only two servers with a notably large Oceanic presence. Any other match-up would be boring in the GMT+10/8 timeslot.

In regards to us (MERC) being accused of zoom hacking by a previous poster (not the quoted author); I command almost every night and I think you need to get some credible evidence before you start throwing down claims that are nothing more than “he said/she said”.

Similar…
OCX – 10 – Occasional Raids
AFS – 10-20 Daily Raids
NYS – 15-30 Occasional Raids
SAHP – 15-20 Occasional Raids
SONG – 10+
HIRE – 20-30 Daily Raids but rarely ever go into SEA

BG, ON the other hand…
MERC – 30-40 Daily and venture into SEA as well
WM – 15-20
ND and ND – 30+
Urge – 20-30
CA – 20-30
XF – 25-30
Thai – 20-30

Equal, definitely, considering sometimes SAHP and NYS don’t even go on raids, like today. No wonder you are ticking 300+.

Um. NYS and SAHP were both in full force on JQ bl today.

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

again dude if anet is allowing the use of it PPL will use it

you cant say u can use it for pve but HEY if ur on a ac u cant it doesnt work that way

they need to just remove it and say u will be banned if u do use it and be done with it

I DO NOT USE EYEfinity because it just doesnt feel right but i cant blame ppl for using it if anet allows it

That is just it you don’t need to remove the Softwar support, why? Becuase some FEAR commander exploits it every chance he gets. What about users like my self that run it and do not exploit it?

Adding a Line of Sight Machanic to the Ac’s will solve this issue straight foward, with out the use of un-supporting the software. Although till that day comes they need to be banning people for exploiting the use of it.

Agreed, but adding a LOS to the AC’s would make using them for defense a bit more tricky. The better alternative would be to set them up like trebs. 1 and 3 to rotate (give it a faster rotary speed) and 2 to adjust the power as needed (make it charge a lot faster than the trebs) while the utility slots are for changing the type of ammo the ac uses.
As for the banning, I highly doubt anet would do such a thing. Unlike the whole karma incident, this has been going on for quite some time. Anet knows about it, people qq about it, and well, nothing has been done or said about it. Would actually be kind of a kitten move to ban people for this actually.
“HEY look, we provide support for eyefinity! So now you can see more!”
“Oh, cool, I can actually see inside of keeps, I wonder if using an ac would be better.”
-Several posts popped up asking about eyefinity
-Anet says nothing about it
-Some people decide it’s ok, and start using it
-Anet out of the blues just bans people
Yea doesn’t sound right.

Your new to this game aren’t you.

That was a huge thing when they banned people for exploiting the karma merchant. The 4k ban was out of the blue, maybe you should research it a little. In fact I am sure you can find something on youtube about it.

If you think that adding a LoS to Ac’s would maing it tricky to use them for defense you should probally learn what Line of Sight means.

Also if Arena Net doesn’t see an issue with eyefinity and the way Arrow carts are used they would not have removed the video that was linked earlier. The only reasons why they would have removed it would be

  • it was abusive or slanderous to a player ( which it wasn’t )
  • or it detailed exploitable issues.

Lol, I offer some ideas of my own and you call me “new to the game.” I’ll just respond to this. When anet banned the 4k people, they didn’t wait a few months to do so. The action was prompt and the fix was prompt as well. Keep in mind this was happening when the game had quite a few problems. Meaning, the team was very busy. Now, many of these things they got their hands full on, are now gone. This means more time to fix, or ban things like this.
Keep in mind that around 3 months ago, anet started to focus on fixing the issues of wvwvw, yet this one hasn’t been touched. So to ban someone for something you keep allowing for MONTHS without even saying, oh this is wrong, is a kitten move.

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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

Was fun last night in BG BL, JQ and BG were trying to push us off the map and hit a brickwall when they got to our hills. Thanks guys for keep coming over and over trying to take our hills that was fun. dupegate kept coming with omega after omega too the north hills. was fun cuz at one point there was only a few tsym and a couple pugs on whole map yet we were holding off numbers that were 10 times our numbers.

I read some of the posts ih here question why does blackhole cry so much about not having numbers when they have more players than JQ and SoR combined but they are no where to be found. Lost in the black hole somwhere I quess.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

again dude if anet is allowing the use of it PPL will use it

you cant say u can use it for pve but HEY if ur on a ac u cant it doesnt work that way

they need to just remove it and say u will be banned if u do use it and be done with it

I DO NOT USE EYEfinity because it just doesnt feel right but i cant blame ppl for using it if anet allows it

That is just it you don’t need to remove the Softwar support, why? Becuase some FEAR commander exploits it every chance he gets. What about users like my self that run it and do not exploit it?

Adding a Line of Sight Machanic to the Ac’s will solve this issue straight foward, with out the use of un-supporting the software. Although till that day comes they need to be banning people for exploiting the use of it.

Agreed, but adding a LOS to the AC’s would make using them for defense a bit more tricky. The better alternative would be to set them up like trebs. 1 and 3 to rotate (give it a faster rotary speed) and 2 to adjust the power as needed (make it charge a lot faster than the trebs) while the utility slots are for changing the type of ammo the ac uses.
As for the banning, I highly doubt anet would do such a thing. Unlike the whole karma incident, this has been going on for quite some time. Anet knows about it, people qq about it, and well, nothing has been done or said about it. Would actually be kind of a kitten move to ban people for this actually.
“HEY look, we provide support for eyefinity! So now you can see more!”
“Oh, cool, I can actually see inside of keeps, I wonder if using an ac would be better.”
-Several posts popped up asking about eyefinity
-Anet says nothing about it
-Some people decide it’s ok, and start using it
-Anet out of the blues just bans people
Yea doesn’t sound right.

Your new to this game aren’t you.

That was a huge thing when they banned people for exploiting the karma merchant. The 4k ban was out of the blue, maybe you should research it a little. In fact I am sure you can find something on youtube about it.

If you think that adding a LoS to Ac’s would maing it tricky to use them for defense you should probally learn what Line of Sight means.

Also if Arena Net doesn’t see an issue with eyefinity and the way Arrow carts are used they would not have removed the video that was linked earlier. The only reasons why they would have removed it would be

  • it was abusive or slanderous to a player ( which it wasn’t )
  • or it detailed exploitable issues.

Lol, I offer some ideas of my own and you call me “new to the game.” I’ll just respond to this. When anet banned the 4k people, they didn’t wait a few months to do so. The action was prompt and the fix was prompt as well. Keep in mind this was happening when the game had quite a few problems. Meaning, the team was very busy. Now, many of these things they got their hands full on, are now gone. This means more time to fix, or ban things like this.
Keep in mind that around 3 months ago, anet started to focus on fixing the issues of wvwvw, yet this one hasn’t been touched. So to ban someone for something you keep allowing for MONTHS without even saying, oh this is wrong, is a kitten move.

And yet the Yaks have been bugged for 3 weeks now and they haven’t fix that for the blue side. Must mean this is what they intend to happen and it is not a problem. And the way you phrased your comment was like the ban never happened. There are still tons of issues in WvW.

Does that mean that the Underground glitch/ exploit is meant to be ? That has been in for months now also so I guess it is ok to do it then. Oh that is right some guy from Emery Bay got perma banned for doing it when they got reported and screen shotted by his own server. Yet you can still purposly glitch into the ground cause they haven’t fixed it, so by your example they must mean for this to be part of WvW.

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Posted by: SykkoB.9465

SykkoB.9465

i kinda like ur idea kaimick about the los on ac it would be a poor mans fix to the issue and very simple to implement

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

again dude if anet is allowing the use of it PPL will use it

you cant say u can use it for pve but HEY if ur on a ac u cant it doesnt work that way

they need to just remove it and say u will be banned if u do use it and be done with it

I DO NOT USE EYEfinity because it just doesnt feel right but i cant blame ppl for using it if anet allows it

That is just it you don’t need to remove the Softwar support, why? Becuase some FEAR commander exploits it every chance he gets. What about users like my self that run it and do not exploit it?

Adding a Line of Sight Machanic to the Ac’s will solve this issue straight foward, with out the use of un-supporting the software. Although till that day comes they need to be banning people for exploiting the use of it.

Agreed, but adding a LOS to the AC’s would make using them for defense a bit more tricky. The better alternative would be to set them up like trebs. 1 and 3 to rotate (give it a faster rotary speed) and 2 to adjust the power as needed (make it charge a lot faster than the trebs) while the utility slots are for changing the type of ammo the ac uses.
As for the banning, I highly doubt anet would do such a thing. Unlike the whole karma incident, this has been going on for quite some time. Anet knows about it, people qq about it, and well, nothing has been done or said about it. Would actually be kind of a kitten move to ban people for this actually.
“HEY look, we provide support for eyefinity! So now you can see more!”
“Oh, cool, I can actually see inside of keeps, I wonder if using an ac would be better.”
-Several posts popped up asking about eyefinity
-Anet says nothing about it
-Some people decide it’s ok, and start using it
-Anet out of the blues just bans people
Yea doesn’t sound right.

Your new to this game aren’t you.

That was a huge thing when they banned people for exploiting the karma merchant. The 4k ban was out of the blue, maybe you should research it a little. In fact I am sure you can find something on youtube about it.

If you think that adding a LoS to Ac’s would maing it tricky to use them for defense you should probally learn what Line of Sight means.

Also if Arena Net doesn’t see an issue with eyefinity and the way Arrow carts are used they would not have removed the video that was linked earlier. The only reasons why they would have removed it would be

  • it was abusive or slanderous to a player ( which it wasn’t )
  • or it detailed exploitable issues.

Lol, I offer some ideas of my own and you call me “new to the game.” I’ll just respond to this. When anet banned the 4k people, they didn’t wait a few months to do so. The action was prompt and the fix was prompt as well. Keep in mind this was happening when the game had quite a few problems. Meaning, the team was very busy. Now, many of these things they got their hands full on, are now gone. This means more time to fix, or ban things like this.
Keep in mind that around 3 months ago, anet started to focus on fixing the issues of wvwvw, yet this one hasn’t been touched. So to ban someone for something you keep allowing for MONTHS without even saying, oh this is wrong, is a kitten move.

Snip “message body length must be less than 5001.”

The thing is, these things are noted and actions are being done against them. Meaning anet does not approve. You even said it yourself. People are being banned for it. Anet is making fixes to it. Read the patch notes. These incidents are becoming less common as anet is continually making changes to fix these exploits. Despite them being minor tweaks, they are still acting on it. What have they done to fix eyefinity in the last 3 months? Nothing.

And for your whole “oh they removed your ss, it must be that they are hiding it as it is an exploit thing.” Do you even read the forum code of conducts? I’ll add this little quote taken directly from the code of conducts “Do not engage in personal attacks against forum members or in character assassination. Posts that attack another member, that single out a player for ridicule, or that accuse someone of inappropriate in-game actions will be removed without notice.” This means, any post in regards to the oh look so and so is doing this will be removed. Simple as that.

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Posted by: Titan.3472

Titan.3472

Well… this is getting ridiculous… Eyefinity has nothing to do with a zoom out features that is provided by a 3rd party program.
Edit “Removed the link you can find it yourself on youtube :p”
Hacking is a bannable offense and lieing about a system that is not providiing in any way the zoom out option is shameful. I report every people that are blatantly using this 3rd party program.
People please report and hope Anet will fix that and perma ban them (that is most likely to happen).

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

SNIP

(The thing is, these things are noted and actions are being done against them. Meaning anet does not approve. You even said it yourself. People are being banned for it. Anet is making fixes to it. Read the patch notes. These incidents are becoming less common as anet is continually making changes to fix these exploits. Despite them being minor tweaks, they are still acting on it. What have they done to fix eyefinity in the last 3 months? Nothing.

And for your whole “oh they removed your ss, it must be that they are hiding it as it is an exploit thing.” Do you even read the forum code of conducts? I’ll add this little quote taken directly from the code of conducts “Do not engage in personal attacks against forum members or in character assassination. Posts that attack another member, that single out a player for ridicule, or that accuse someone of inappropriate in-game actions will be removed without notice.” This means, any post in regards to the oh look so and so is doing this will be removed. Simple as that.)

Citing one rule and ignoreing the rules to not post exploits doesn’t support your case. The issue is not really with eyefinity your blaming the wrong person or tool in this istance. The issue is that Ac’s are being exploited by using this software. But the use of the software is not the issue. The issue is AC’s have no Line of sight restrictions. By adding a LoS to Ac’s it would remove the issue and still allow players like my self that use eyefinity and do not exploit it to contunie to use it.

Also you have to realize that coding in a game is not as easy as 123. My time going to the Art Institute getting my bachalors in Culinary Arts I had the enjoyment of meeting people doing game art and desing where they program. Some times easy fixes cause more issue so they try to fix things so nothing is affected. Also you will know if you have paid attention to how arena nets does things they do not annouce a change unless theya re sure it will work by X standards. Just becuase they haven’t annouced they are patching it doesn’t mean they are not working on fixing it.

To sit here and say it is ok for this to happen or support or defend it is silly, the irony of this is I have seen more SoR in support of the use of eyefinity than against it yet JQ and BG members are speaking out against this and have specificly stated that they do not condone it. Sure there are a few SoR members that dis like it and feel it is wrong to use it, but more support it than not. Maybe it is becuase they are reaping thebenifits of it who knows. Although the most amusing thing is that FEAR commander has yet to come on and defend his position on it, Usally most people knowingly doing something wrong will not stand up and defend their position.

Well it is what it is, If this is going to be the new meta then arena net needs to

  • allow players to extend their zoom range
  • remove Trebs/ catas/ balistas/ and golems from the game

At this point all you need is a 40 man zerg and the ability to zoom out further and destory any siege on the other side and PvD the way to Victory.

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Posted by: kyro.8162

kyro.8162

Gonna take it to private messaging as this is getting a little off topic for the thread. Sorry for filling the last page or two with my arguing with Kaimick.

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Posted by: Hoots.9564

Hoots.9564

You two servers need to just stop arguing and make out already.

I’ll watch.

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