JQ is in the same position SBI and SoS found themselves in.
Trying to survive on one strong time zone and being smashed / limping along in the other 3. It indeed is not able to compete in T1 at the moment but also it would destroy the tier 2 servers (I believe) it is a weird vacuum to be in, which we won’t see the outcome of until the 3 get split up and JQ gets – JQ/TC/DB. The stigma of being #1 for so long takes it’s toll on a server, be wary T1.
Good luck to JQ to pull itself out of this, may I just ask, don’t pull a SBI and abandon your map every night, actually fight back.
Edit: @Kryyg – What point is there to spending all night upgrading a BL knowing noone is there to hold it when the SoR map zerg shows up? Waha is playing for the enjoyment of the game and seems to be enjoying himself a lot more.
BG wont enjoy it if Waha really play for ppt
In a three way fight, I’m sure one of the two servers wont enjoy the attention…..
JQ can do what they want, it isn’t like BG didn’t get to snuggle with them (I do recall all those INC FOO ZERGS calls, not always legit ) and JQ just wants to share their loving feelings towards us all.
In conclusion, suck it up. It happens, I’m sure it wont stay this way forever even if it feels kinda cruddy now. And from what I’ve been told some of my SoR friends are enjoying these fights… even if it does feel like a constant 2v1 against them.
We’ve played against JQ’s SEA a long time and there is a degree of mutual respect, even when we do get focused we rarely complain like SoRs SEA are usually doing on the forums. Let alone PM’ing abuse at commanders on the other side like what has happened about four times this last week from various SoR trolls as well as the consistent emote spamming by HIRE and OCX. Stay classy in-game or you will get focused.
The words “ATM/FOO inc” kept me playing this game. True story.
Tark is right: BG has had it’s share of battles with the formidable JQ SEA forces, and I believe it has strengthened our timezone because we chose to respond positively to the challenge they presented. Perhaps if the SoR SEA will choose to look at it from this point of view, they will find the battles, even the losing ones, an invitation to get tough. I keep mentioning that WvW is all ebb and flow..whatever situation you’re facing now is not permanent, so the smartest thing to do is to let situations build you up, rather than tear others down.
JQ’s “strategic problem” was fixed a couple patches ago with the addition of AOE looting while we are farming BG/SoR zergs.
Also JQ NA is usually ahead of BG ppt for the majority of the week, and our SEA is excellent as usual. BG simply has ocx which we do not, and SoR has EU which we are very very light on.
But its really no big deal as the bagapalooza continues!
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We’ve played against JQ’s SEA a long time and there is a degree of mutual respect, even when we do get focused we rarely complain like SoRs SEA are usually doing on the forums. Let alone PM’ing abuse at commanders on the other side like what has happened about four times this last week from various SoR trolls as well as the consistent emote spamming by HIRE and OCX. Stay classy in-game or you will get focused.
The words “ATM/FOO inc” kept me playing this game. True story.
Tark is right: BG has had it’s share of battles with the formidable JQ SEA forces, and I believe it has strengthened our timezone because we chose to respond positively to the challenge they presented. Perhaps if the SoR SEA will choose to look at it from this point of view, they will find the battles, even the losing ones, an invitation to get tough. I keep mentioning that WvW is all ebb and flow..whatever situation you’re facing now is not permanent, so the smartest thing to do is to let situations build you up, rather than tear others down.
Great to know that! This is the kind of rivalry and mutual respect we have for each other that keep us going and improve on ourselves in order to fight against you. /Salute
JQ’s “strategic problem” was fixed a couple patches ago with the addition of AOE looting while we are farming BG/SoR zergs.
Also JQ NA is usually ahead of BG ppt for the majority of the week, and our SEA is excellent as usual.
I’d have to agree with you that Blackgate could definitely use more NA particularly during the EST time zone… There’s a huge gap from SEA to BG’s NA strong point.
Yep, and with MERC and KISS coming to JQ to fight things other than doors next week, things should shape up nicely.
I would like to be the first to welcome [MERC] and [KISS] to JQ.
On a serious note, we had a hilariously fun time in SoR BL after running into a brick wall in EB. We tried to hide inside Bay by sleeping under the tree but it didn’t work unfortunately.
TW: I have a video of the best fight between both servers (this isn’t a chestthump video, this was seriously a good fight). Shame you had to respond to Blackgate backdooring your keep. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVg4S1QDRzg
Now I am just waiting that JQ server implodes and transfer over TC to give them a run to T1 that they ll fight heavy for at least. JQ times are over please consider giving your rank to TC. If every JQ wvw oreinted guilds transfer over TC you might get a real retaliation and boost moral effect unlike staying in JQ. Anyway JQ won’t be able to hold their T1 rank forever better jump out before it s too late
Why would ATM play defensively when there is no link between JQ SEA and NA prime, as soon as ATM log off, JQ just got outmanned in every BL besides EB, all of them gonna get flipped in 30 mins anyways, and rampaging around all BLs are way more fun than holding some keeps with 40+ players.
JQ is going through a time that lost FOO and EMP major force the same time in a sudden, and doing a kitten good job re-forming, its a time for JQ players re-gain the joy of WvW; not a time for every guilds extending their playing time and burning out for a win.
JQ is in the same position SBI and SoS found themselves in.
Trying to survive on one strong time zone and being smashed / limping along in the other 3. It indeed is not able to compete in T1 at the moment but also it would destroy the tier 2 servers (I believe) it is a weird vacuum to be in, which we won’t see the outcome of until the 3 get split up and JQ gets – JQ/TC/DB. The stigma of being #1 for so long takes it’s toll on a server, be wary T1.
Good luck to JQ to pull itself out of this, may I just ask, don’t pull a SBI and abandon your map every night, actually fight back.
Edit: @Kryyg – What point is there to spending all night upgrading a BL knowing noone is there to hold it when the SoR map zerg shows up? Waha is playing for the enjoyment of the game and seems to be enjoying himself a lot more.
BG wont enjoy it if Waha really play for ppt
In a three way fight, I’m sure one of the two servers wont enjoy the attention…..
JQ can do what they want, it isn’t like BG didn’t get to snuggle with them (I do recall all those INC FOO ZERGS calls, not always legit ) and JQ just wants to share their loving feelings towards us all.
In conclusion, suck it up. It happens, I’m sure it wont stay this way forever even if it feels kinda cruddy now. And from what I’ve been told some of my SoR friends are enjoying these fights… even if it does feel like a constant 2v1 against them.
Agreed. Frankly, it’s just frustrating to get hit constantly by BG and JQ, leading us to losing everything. Some people get a little frustrated and moan on the forums (myself included). Most of the Rallians are actually loving this 2v1. We do have a blast. Without the 2v1, SoR would easily win T1 without a doubt.
Does your large guild really need a reason to zerg everything? You zerg everything anyway. That’s how you hit such huge ppt. You don’t only hit JQ. lol.
Btw our usual mid-week online during EU prime is ~40ppl, and ~5-7 of them usually afk or assigned on scout duty on other borders. And we often don’t have luxury of choosing BL for long time, since we are forced to perform role of firefight team, jump here and there, strike fast and port to attack/defend other objective.
I also have to teleport around and stop attacks. The only difference is i have to do with with 10 people. Right now it is not so bad because i have some back up commanders, but most nights when it is not vacation time i am the only active EU commander outside of EB
Waage you guys do a fine job considering your numbers, so your guild should be proud of that.
As for your reply yesterday, I would like to point out that when we were on desolation fighting vizunah, we would start eu prime with about 100 ppt and facing t3 towers and keeps on every border, yet by the end of eu prime time we would still have taken the ppt lead.
So just because bg only have 2 t3 keeps going into na does not mean there is no chance of evening up the ppt. This is what I was asking, why is it bg have such difficulty in na prime time, is it coverage? is it organisation? Or is the fact SoR has numerous NA wvw guilds that coordinate well causing the difference in score during NA?
I was not being facetious, just wanted to know what the issue is?
JQ is in the same position SBI and SoS found themselves in.
Trying to survive on one strong time zone and being smashed / limping along in the other 3. It indeed is not able to compete in T1 at the moment but also it would destroy the tier 2 servers (I believe) it is a weird vacuum to be in, which we won’t see the outcome of until the 3 get split up and JQ gets – JQ/TC/DB. The stigma of being #1 for so long takes it’s toll on a server, be wary T1.
Good luck to JQ to pull itself out of this, may I just ask, don’t pull a SBI and abandon your map every night, actually fight back.
Edit: @Kryyg – What point is there to spending all night upgrading a BL knowing noone is there to hold it when the SoR map zerg shows up? Waha is playing for the enjoyment of the game and seems to be enjoying himself a lot more.
BG wont enjoy it if Waha really play for ppt
In a three way fight, I’m sure one of the two servers wont enjoy the attention…..
JQ can do what they want, it isn’t like BG didn’t get to snuggle with them (I do recall all those INC FOO ZERGS calls, not always legit ) and JQ just wants to share their loving feelings towards us all.
In conclusion, suck it up. It happens, I’m sure it wont stay this way forever even if it feels kinda cruddy now. And from what I’ve been told some of my SoR friends are enjoying these fights… even if it does feel like a constant 2v1 against them.
I think you’re missing the point, its about them abandoning their home bl with T3 stuff that their NA pulled all possible tricks out of their hats to defend only to know BG will be allowed to PvDoor that keep.
And the fact that points wise, JQ could be doing better while eating at a chunk of the easy ppt that BG is getting. (easy → the higher the ppt the tougher it gets to defend everything)
Why would ATM play defensively when there is no link between JQ SEA and NA prime, as soon as ATM log off, JQ just got outmanned in every BL besides EB, all of them gonna get flipped in 30 mins anyways, and rampaging around all BLs are way more fun than holding some keeps with 40+ players.
JQ is going through a time that lost FOO and EMP major force the same time in a sudden, and doing a kitten good job re-forming, its a time for JQ players re-gain the joy of WvW; not a time for every guilds extending their playing time and burning out for a win.
To maximise ppt, thats the reason they would want to defend those T3 keeps.
JQ is in the same position SBI and SoS found themselves in.
Trying to survive on one strong time zone and being smashed / limping along in the other 3. It indeed is not able to compete in T1 at the moment but also it would destroy the tier 2 servers (I believe) it is a weird vacuum to be in, which we won’t see the outcome of until the 3 get split up and JQ gets – JQ/TC/DB. The stigma of being #1 for so long takes it’s toll on a server, be wary T1.
Good luck to JQ to pull itself out of this, may I just ask, don’t pull a SBI and abandon your map every night, actually fight back.
Edit: @Kryyg – What point is there to spending all night upgrading a BL knowing noone is there to hold it when the SoR map zerg shows up? Waha is playing for the enjoyment of the game and seems to be enjoying himself a lot more.
BG wont enjoy it if Waha really play for ppt
If JQ played purely for PPT (including taking all our massive PvE and sPvP base and putting em in WvWvW) we would be no.1 every week, every second, every day.
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JQ is in the same position SBI and SoS found themselves in.
Trying to survive on one strong time zone and being smashed / limping along in the other 3. It indeed is not able to compete in T1 at the moment but also it would destroy the tier 2 servers (I believe) it is a weird vacuum to be in, which we won’t see the outcome of until the 3 get split up and JQ gets – JQ/TC/DB. The stigma of being #1 for so long takes it’s toll on a server, be wary T1.
Good luck to JQ to pull itself out of this, may I just ask, don’t pull a SBI and abandon your map every night, actually fight back.
Edit: @Kryyg – What point is there to spending all night upgrading a BL knowing noone is there to hold it when the SoR map zerg shows up? Waha is playing for the enjoyment of the game and seems to be enjoying himself a lot more.
BG wont enjoy it if Waha really play for ppt
If JQ played purely for PPT (including taking all our massive PvE and sPvP base and putting em in WvWvW) we would be no.1 every week, every second, every day.
JQ is in the same position SBI and SoS found themselves in.
Trying to survive on one strong time zone and being smashed / limping along in the other 3. It indeed is not able to compete in T1 at the moment but also it would destroy the tier 2 servers (I believe) it is a weird vacuum to be in, which we won’t see the outcome of until the 3 get split up and JQ gets – JQ/TC/DB. The stigma of being #1 for so long takes it’s toll on a server, be wary T1.
Good luck to JQ to pull itself out of this, may I just ask, don’t pull a SBI and abandon your map every night, actually fight back.
Edit: @Kryyg – What point is there to spending all night upgrading a BL knowing noone is there to hold it when the SoR map zerg shows up? Waha is playing for the enjoyment of the game and seems to be enjoying himself a lot more.
BG wont enjoy it if Waha really play for ppt
In a three way fight, I’m sure one of the two servers wont enjoy the attention…..
JQ can do what they want, it isn’t like BG didn’t get to snuggle with them (I do recall all those INC FOO ZERGS calls, not always legit ) and JQ just wants to share their loving feelings towards us all.
In conclusion, suck it up. It happens, I’m sure it wont stay this way forever even if it feels kinda cruddy now. And from what I’ve been told some of my SoR friends are enjoying these fights… even if it does feel like a constant 2v1 against them.
I think you’re missing the point, its about them abandoning their home bl with T3 stuff that their NA pulled all possible tricks out of their hats to defend only to know BG will be allowed to PvDoor that keep.
And the fact that points wise, JQ could be doing better while eating at a chunk of the easy ppt that BG is getting. (easy -> the higher the ppt the tougher it gets to defend everything)
Why would we want to hit JQ garrison? Yours looks so much nicer
JQ’s “strategic problem” was fixed a couple patches ago with the addition of AOE looting while we are farming BG/SoR zergs.
Also JQ NA is usually ahead of BG ppt for the majority of the week, and our SEA is excellent as usual. BG simply has ocx which we do not, and SoR has EU which we are very very light on.
But its really no big deal as the bagapalooza continues!
Yeah… say that when SoR focuses nothing but you and wants to 2v1 you 24/7 not discrediting your NA … but your ppt being above BG’s NA at the moment isn’t due to your NA being better than BG’s but more so due to no pressure put on you by SoR or BG. I don’t think JQ’s problems are as simple as you make them out to be, from my sources and time in game at least.
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JQ is in the same position SBI and SoS found themselves in.
Trying to survive on one strong time zone and being smashed / limping along in the other 3. It indeed is not able to compete in T1 at the moment but also it would destroy the tier 2 servers (I believe) it is a weird vacuum to be in, which we won’t see the outcome of until the 3 get split up and JQ gets – JQ/TC/DB. The stigma of being #1 for so long takes it’s toll on a server, be wary T1.
Good luck to JQ to pull itself out of this, may I just ask, don’t pull a SBI and abandon your map every night, actually fight back.
Edit: @Kryyg – What point is there to spending all night upgrading a BL knowing noone is there to hold it when the SoR map zerg shows up? Waha is playing for the enjoyment of the game and seems to be enjoying himself a lot more.
BG wont enjoy it if Waha really play for ppt
If JQ played purely for PPT (including taking all our massive PvE and sPvP base and putting em in WvWvW) we would be no.1 every week, every second, every day.
When JQ roars, the world will tremble.
Yeah but by that logic, SoR and BG would be queued 24/7 if all our pve and spvp players played WvW lol.
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JQ’s “strategic problem” was fixed a couple patches ago with the addition of AOE looting while we are farming BG/SoR zergs.
Also JQ NA is usually ahead of BG ppt for the majority of the week, and our SEA is excellent as usual. BG simply has ocx which we do not, and SoR has EU which we are very very light on.
But its really no big deal as the bagapalooza continues!
Yeah… say that when SoR focuses nothing but you and wants to 2v1 you 24/7 not discrediting your NA … but your ppt being above BG’s NA at the moment isn’t due to your NA being better than BG’s but more so due to no pressure put on you by SoR or BG. I don’t think JQ’s problems are as simple as you make them out to be, from my sources and time in game at least.
I agree. Honestly, If BG and SoR paid more attention to JQ instead of only fighting each other most of the time, JQ would be completely crushed.
i think r record is 3 pages of ppl playing nice. Then someone posts a pic of something. or calls out a guild saying they r blobing/hacking/2v1 and the cycle starts all over again
the lamb chop song is a perfect example for t1 threads
This is the song that never ends.
It just goes on and on my friends.
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,
And they’ll continue singing it forever just because
JQ’s “strategic problem” was fixed a couple patches ago with the addition of AOE looting while we are farming BG/SoR zergs.
Also JQ NA is usually ahead of BG ppt for the majority of the week, and our SEA is excellent as usual. BG simply has ocx which we do not, and SoR has EU which we are very very light on.
But its really no big deal as the bagapalooza continues!
Yeah… say that when SoR focuses nothing but you and wants to 2v1 you 24/7 not discrediting your NA … but your ppt being above BG’s NA at the moment isn’t due to your NA being better than BG’s but more so due to no pressure put on you by SoR or BG. I don’t think JQ’s problems are as simple as you make them out to be, from my sources and time in game at least.
I never thought id agree with you, but here’ what JQ does to survive Tier 1.
Waha logs in – Focus down SOR heavily while ignoring BG, make them tick below 50 PPT for a good few hours. SOR gets kitten ed, SOR EU logs in, annihilates JQ from every BL. and then goes on to focus BG cos they are the real threat,
JQ NA logs in, Focuses heavily on BG while mostly ignoring SOR. since SOR is already focusing BG. same rotation the next day.
JQ unfortunately isn’t strong enough to be the 3rd server regardless of whether its T1 material or not, they have to either support 1 server or the other or it would be hell for them.
Why do BG and JQ not fight during SEA time or u not playing a PVP game ? or are u play a PPT game. Maybe u 2 should do a race and see who gets most temples during that time!
Why do BG and JQ not fight during SEA time or u not playing a PVP game ? or are u play a PPT game. Maybe u 2 should do a race and see who gets most temples during that time!
Good thing SOR cares about fights and not PPT.
Yeah, I guess SoR doesn’t care about ppt… when it gets to 50-100. Then it’s “about the fights.”
All trolling aside, your server definitely cares about ppt nowadays. The massive overtime, map zergs, and holding of 300+ constant ppt pretty much says it. Not saying this is a bad thing since I play the ppt game as well. :P
Why do BG and JQ not fight during SEA time or u not playing a PVP game ? or are u play a PPT game. Maybe u 2 should do a race and see who gets most temples during that time!
Good thing SOR cares about fights and not PPT.
The massive overtime, map zergs, and holding of 300+ constant ppt pretty much says it.
No overtime. Your NA and EU is just that bad/fickle. After 2-3 wipes they log off leaving full BLs outmanned.
Yeah it’s pretty fun when you have nothing else to do. No SoR SEA seems to be out today. You aren’t new to this thread or match-up. Your PvD will start in several hours, don’t worry.
Edit: Dude, no need to deny the overtime. It’s not exactly a secret. SoR has been posting it in the last thread before it was locked, where have you been?
Great fights this week. I swear these last few weeks have been awesome. Such close PPT between SoR and BG its awesome.
@ JQ I think you guys are great and I’ve watched you guys evolve overtime since SoS/JQ etc etc. I have noticed your home BL lately has been flipping every color even during NA.
But to be fair the only server that that doesn’t happen to is SoR during NA and that’s because TW on the home map is Godly. Mad props to TW. One day I hope to collect a lot of dem TW bags!
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Great fights this week. I swear these last few weeks have been awesome. Such close PPT between SoR and BG its awesome.
@ JQ I think you guys are great and I’ve watched you guys evolve overtime since SoS/JQ etc etc. I have noticed your home BL lately has been flipping every color even during NA.
But to be fair the only server that that doesn’t happen to is SoR during NA and that’s because TW on the home map is Godly. Mad props to TW. One day I hope to collect a lot of dem TW bags!
We were thinking of swapping BLs last night after SoR seemed to die down. All of the sudden a 50 man JQ zerg of SG/PRO/pugs zoned in out of nowhere. It was fun.
) and JQ just wants to share their loving feelings towards us all.
BG 485ppt.