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In this thread a guy who can’t count gives advice to other people.

Oozo.7856:

In this thread a guy who can’t count gives advice to other people.

OHHHHHhhh…. you are one of those BSty people.

You killed me like 40 times yesterday… you gonna be a fight club? I would like to try you 1 at a time.

lunyboy.8672:

I don’t care when I die, and I certainly don’t get flustered by the PvP tryhards who got lost on their way to hot join and now can’t win without their OP food buffs.

lol

lunyboy.8672:

Oozo.7856:

In this thread a guy who can’t count gives advice to other people.

OHHHHHhhh…. you are one of those BSty people.

You killed me like 40 times yesterday… you gonna be a fight club? I would like to try you 1 at a time.

I’m not good enough to be in BSty, but they let me ride their coattails every once in awhile. I think some of them do fight clubs or at least Crank does.

The counting comment wasn’t directed at you, BTW.

Shanks R Us.2489:

lunyboy.8672:

I don’t care when I die, and I certainly don’t get flustered by the PvP tryhards who got lost on their way to hot join and now can’t win without their OP food buffs.

lol

I’m serious. When I stomp them, I use my Rabbit finisher, because I don’t care. (that is my rank, btw)

They come to our BL looking for “good fights” (read: ganking uplevels one at a time) and then brag on the forums about how "small’ their “team” is.

What I do is keep them busy and feed them badges so they don’t start thinking about actually taking towers or any of those menial things the wvw plebs are in charge of; so while they are hitting me with their over-sized hammers, the rest of my server is hopefully being productive.

Then they get bored with killing the same few “Noobs” over and over again for very few points, and move on after complaining on the forums about the lack of “good fights” and “small teams.”

Oozo.7856:

In this thread a guy who can’t count gives advice to other people.

[AD] we ran into you guys a couple days ago. Stability/mobility classes sorta ruin your whole guardian group approach. The thief eventually got my girlfriends ranger down, then again she just goes in to WvW to hang out with guildies, she’s not the best PvPer, but she has fun. Maybe you guys remember that extremely long, going nowhere 5ish on 3 we had going at S camp. Evade/bunker ranger and D/D ele. It was a shame our necro guildie wasn’t on though, would have been far more interesting.

Oozo.7856:

lunyboy.8672:

Oozo.7856:

In this thread a guy who can’t count gives advice to other people.

OHHHHHhhh…. you are one of those BSty people.

You killed me like 40 times yesterday… you gonna be a fight club? I would like to try you 1 at a time.

I’m not good enough to be in BSty, but they let me ride their coattails every once in awhile. I think some of them do fight clubs or at least Crank does.

The counting comment wasn’t directed at you, BTW.

All good. I don’t take forum posts personally anyway

I watched your vid, you should come if you can.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Dovgan.8605:

Oozo.7856:

In this thread a guy who can’t count gives advice to other people.

[AD] we ran into you guys a couple days ago. Stability/mobility classes sorta ruin your whole guardian group approach. The thief eventually got my girlfriends ranger down, then again she just goes in to WvW to hang out with guildies, she’s not the best PvPer, but she has fun. Maybe you guys remember that extremely long, going nowhere 5ish on 3 we had going at S camp. Evade/bunker ranger and D/D ele. It was a shame our necro guildie wasn’t on though, would have been far more interesting.

Now I don’t run with AD much anymore due to time zone differences but I’m pretty sure there’s no specific “approach” they have towards things. Whatever people are online run whatever they want.

I find it interesting that you would have to flaunt your passive agressive behavior all over this forum thread that was, up until very recently, quite harmonic.

An interesting point of view on the post for sure. However I think you may be projecting yourself into the post. There is no negativity there, I do find your overall take on it unique, however.

lunyboy.8672:

Shanks R Us.2489:

lunyboy.8672:

I don’t care when I die, and I certainly don’t get flustered by the PvP tryhards who got lost on their way to hot join and now can’t win without their OP food buffs.

lol

I’m serious. When I stomp them, I use my Rabbit finisher, because I don’t care. (that is my rank, btw)

They come to our BL looking for “good fights” (read: ganking uplevels one at a time) and then brag on the forums about how "small’ their “team” is.

What I do is keep them busy and feed them badges so they don’t start thinking about actually taking towers or any of those menial things the wvw plebs are in charge of; so while they are hitting me with their over-sized hammers, the rest of my server is hopefully being productive.

Then they get bored with killing the same few “Noobs” over and over again for very few points, and move on after complaining on the forums about the lack of “good fights” and “small teams.”

I laughed because I’m what you described, minus the uplevel part.

I usually only solo roam, and I’m just running around looking for “good fights” =P. Sure, I kill uplevels, but I never expect anything out of them. I like finding the few good players. As you said, I don’t bother with taking towers or anything. Hitting a door over & over and killing an NPC doesn’t sound attractive to me.

See you Thursday.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Dovgan.8605:

Oozo.7856:

In this thread a guy who can’t count gives advice to other people.

[AD] we ran into you guys a couple days ago. Stability/mobility classes sorta ruin your whole guardian group approach. The thief eventually got my girlfriends ranger down, then again she just goes in to WvW to hang out with guildies, she’s not the best PvPer, but she has fun. Maybe you guys remember that extremely long, going nowhere 5ish on 3 we had going at S camp. Evade/bunker ranger and D/D ele. It was a shame our necro guildie wasn’t on though, would have been far more interesting.

Now I don’t run with AD much anymore due to time zone differences but I’m pretty sure there’s no specific “approach” they have towards things. Whatever people are online run whatever they want.

I find it interesting that you would have to flaunt your passive agressive behavior all over this forum thread that was, up until very recently, quite harmonic.

Correct.

We have no “approach.” We had three people out before anyone else. Those three happened to be guardians. One of those guardians was being played by someone who had just craft leveled it from 1 to 80 earlier that day just to play something different. Any other DR in the area were not with us.

Guardian is great for people who stand and fight, not so great for classes built for running away like some rangers and warriors. The rangers got downed but of course made sure they were close enough to water to get downed in the water. We were never in any threat of being downed ourselves although I did get low once when they were 3v1ing me for a few while the other two guardians were trying to kill another ranger who got downed… in the water, of course.

Yes, I do make sure I’m close enough to water to avoid a stake. Was a fun fight though. We’ll have to do it again! And yes the focus from the thief is what got me downed. The other ranger, female norn, did get downed and came back from the spawn though.

Dovgan.8605:

Yes, I do make sure I’m close enough to water to avoid a stake. Was a fun fight though. We’ll have to do it again! And yes the focus from the thief is what got me downed.

Yeah, there were a couple of other DR there. They were not with us though, just to clear up any confusion.

edit: There was a fourth player, an untagged ranger. You probably didn’t notice them since they were much farther north than where you were doing most of the fighting.

Dovgan.8605:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Dovgan.8605:

Oozo.7856:

In this thread a guy who can’t count gives advice to other people.

[AD] we ran into you guys a couple days ago. Stability/mobility classes sorta ruin your whole guardian group approach. The thief eventually got my girlfriends ranger down, then again she just goes in to WvW to hang out with guildies, she’s not the best PvPer, but she has fun. Maybe you guys remember that extremely long, going nowhere 5ish on 3 we had going at S camp. Evade/bunker ranger and D/D ele. It was a shame our necro guildie wasn’t on though, would have been far more interesting.

Now I don’t run with AD much anymore due to time zone differences but I’m pretty sure there’s no specific “approach” they have towards things. Whatever people are online run whatever they want.

I find it interesting that you would have to flaunt your passive agressive behavior all over this forum thread that was, up until very recently, quite harmonic.

An interesting point of view on the post for sure. However I think you may be projecting yourself into the post. There is no negativity there, I do find your overall take on it unique, however.

Implicating that it would take 5 people a very long time to kill a ranger who doesn’t do a lot of PvP?

It’s a funny world you live in!

Yeah there were 5ish total there, thief was not AD may have just been tagging along with you. Benefit of multiple guardians is lots of heals. Almost positive there were 4 guardians in total, very well could be only 3 were AD though and one was not. Lots of hammers and warding going on. But still was fun bouncing around trying to draw you folks apart.

Oozo.7856:

Dovgan.8605:

Yes, I do make sure I’m close enough to water to avoid a stake. Was a fun fight though. We’ll have to do it again! And yes the focus from the thief is what got me downed.

Yeah, there were a couple of other DR there. They were not with us though, just to clear up any confusion.

edit: There was a fourth player, an untagged ranger. You probably didn’t notice them since they were much farther north than where you were doing most of the fighting.

Ah yeah, no it WAS a ranger. I remember that now. Not sure why Gab is so upset, I was proud of how well the girlfriend did.

Nobody was tagging along with us. White swords at the south camp tend to draw people in to see what is going on. :P

LOL well regardless, it was fun. Thief kept having to reset though, stealth drives me nuts.

Using stealth to reset is pretty much the same thing as using high mobility to reset. :P

Shanks R Us.2489:

lunyboy.8672:

Shanks R Us.2489:

lunyboy.8672:

I don’t care when I die, and I certainly don’t get flustered by the PvP tryhards who got lost on their way to hot join and now can’t win without their OP food buffs.

lol

I’m serious. When I stomp them, I use my Rabbit finisher, because I don’t care. (that is my rank, btw)

They come to our BL looking for “good fights” (read: ganking uplevels one at a time) and then brag on the forums about how "small’ their “team” is.

What I do is keep them busy and feed them badges so they don’t start thinking about actually taking towers or any of those menial things the wvw plebs are in charge of; so while they are hitting me with their over-sized hammers, the rest of my server is hopefully being productive.

Then they get bored with killing the same few “Noobs” over and over again for very few points, and move on after complaining on the forums about the lack of “good fights” and “small teams.”

I laughed because I’m what you described, minus the uplevel part.

I usually only solo roam, and I’m just running around looking for “good fights” =P. Sure, I kill uplevels, but I never expect anything out of them. I like finding the few good players. As you said, I don’t bother with taking towers or anything. Hitting a door over & over and killing an NPC doesn’t sound attractive to me.

See you Thursday.

I haven’t seen you brag about it, and you don’t have the bluster associated with one of those groups and seem quite reasonable.

Honestly people can play wvw any way they like, I was just pointing out that when I get farmed for badges/loots, I generally don’t care. I like fighting, I like fighting outnumbered when I have a shot, and I win now and then, which is nice.

But I am specifically on our BL for the server, I observe and report, follow enemy activity, back cap camps, and make fun of people in map. As long as you don’t 3v1 me, then spam laugh, I will be quite cordial, and even talk to you in party.

I look at it like this:

[img]http://www.wiseacre-gardens.com/toons/wile._timeclock.jpg[/img]

Oozo.7856:

Using stealth to reset is pretty much the same thing as using high mobility to reset. :P

Ha touche! I have to use what the ANet overlords gave me, especially when I’m outnumbered.

Dovgan.8605:

Oozo.7856:

Using stealth to reset is pretty much the same thing as using high mobility to reset. :P

Ha touche! I have to use what the ANet overlords gave me, especially when I’m outnumbered.

Yeah, I understand. Guardians use healing, thieves use stealth, rangers and warriors use mobility in order to sustain. It’s either that or die unless you are running with the zerg. It can make for some really boring stalemate fights though when people with these builds run across each other. ;(

Oozo.7856:

Using stealth to reset is pretty much the same thing as using high mobility to reset. :P

Agreed. A disgusting ‘feature’ of this game I feel.

Oozo.7856:

Dovgan.8605:

Oozo.7856:

Using stealth to reset is pretty much the same thing as using high mobility to reset. :P

Ha touche! I have to use what the ANet overlords gave me, especially when I’m outnumbered.

Yeah, I understand. Guardians use healing, thieves use stealth, rangers and warriors use mobility in order to sustain. It’s either that or die unless you are running with the zerg. It can make for some really boring stalemate fights though when people with these builds run across each other. ;(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY-drzj1dc0

Part of me enjoys the “chess match” waiting for the other guy to make a mistake. I’ve also been in a few that have bored me to tears.

Thorson.9218:

obastable.5231:

here’s a novel concept …. and i realize this might be hard for you to grasp .. but there are 3 exits from spawn, so why not take one of your other options?

if you are dumb enough to continuously exit via the one being spawn camped then you are dumb enough to deserve to be spawn camped.

it’s like .. if you choose door 1 you will get kicked in the nuts when you walk through, but if you choose door 2 or 3 you will be able to safely walk out in to the world. yet, you are taking door 1 and complaining about being kicked in the nuts.

i do not understand.

LOL. Yet more kittenheads. Love it.

Yeah, I know there are 3 exits. The NEWBIES that I’m talking about here do not. Yes, we try to keep people at the spawn for this very reason – escort the newbs. That’s not always possible because frankly we’d like to play the game and not have to baby-sit newbs out of our spawn because of kittenheads who think camping it is “fun”.

Try, if possible, to expand your thinking beyond your little world….or not, I couldn’t care less. The majority of the people responding to this topic are totally clueless to what’s going on and are just proving to be….well, clueless.

Here’s HoD in your shoes:
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/28/12
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/28/14
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/28/16

We’ve been through it. You can bet there was a lot of spawn camping. It’s not just HoD that spawncamps. I know, I was there. It sucks, but what can you do. What can we do? Insist people not spawn camp? Odds are, the people setting up spawn camps aren’t the ones who come to the forums seeking WvW honor or respect or whatever you want to call it.

Hey, look at that. Here is someone from AR in this very thread spawn-camping Borlis Pass… Now what was that you guys were saying about how dishonorable we are?

lunyboy.8672:

Hey, look at that. Here is someone from AR in this very thread spawn-camping Borlis Pass… Now what was that you guys were saying about how dishonorable we are?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFTo6LyENSY

ahahahahahaha. Good job digging that gem up.

Refer to the last song in the video, was a one time thing for me. Our thief, on the other hand, has too much fun doing it

Edit:

Now that I think about it, you guys really shouldn’t take my actions as a reflection of the AR server. Here’s the truth: most people on my server don’t like me, lol. I don’t do ‘real wvw,’ I troll our largest guild [WAR] on map chat all the time (because they’re useless), and I usually tell people to go away when more than 1 or 2 start following me. Honestly, I’m sure people on enemy servers like me more than on my own.

Shanks R Us.2489:

lunyboy.8672:

Hey, look at that. Here is someone from AR in this very thread spawn-camping Borlis Pass… Now what was that you guys were saying about how dishonorable we are?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFTo6LyENSY

ahahahahahaha. Good job digging that gem up.

Refer to the last song in the video, was a one time thing for me. Our thief, on the other hand, has too much fun doing it

Edit:

Now that I think about it, you guys really shouldn’t take my actions as a reflection of the AR server. Here’s the truth: most people on my server don’t like me, lol. I don’t do ‘real wvw,’ I troll our largest guild [WAR] on map chat all the time (because they’re useless), and I usually tell people to go away when more than 1 or 2 start following me. Honestly, I’m sure people on enemy servers like me more than on my own.

I am on HoD, and I have never and will never spawn camp (except for that one time) but that doesn’t mean that we aren’t all being painted with the same brush just because a few of us have engaged in it.

Once again, I am just keeping everyone honest about their statements in this thread, and this seemed like an appropriate response since it had server names in it and everything.

Now the one question to be asked and answered in regards to “spawn camping”. Are you intent on moving out into the enemy borderlands and capturing something or do you WANT to stay at your spawn, farming those that foolishly come too close to the Legendary defenders? If you are there to farm then I will in turn farm you. I have seen enemies gathered on the rock outside the SW tower that have no intention of taking the tower, even with only one defender inside yet they will kill the dolyaks and anyone running by solo. If a larger force comes by they quickly run back to their spawn.

Those types I will spawn camp and not feel guilty about it in the least.

Theftwind.8976:

Now the one question to be asked and answered in regards to “spawn camping”. Are you intent on moving out into the enemy borderlands and capturing something or do you WANT to stay at your spawn, farming those that foolishly come too close to the Legendary defenders? If you are there to farm then I will in turn farm you. I have seen enemies gathered on the rock outside the SW tower that have no intention of taking the tower, even with only one defender inside yet they will kill the dolyaks and anyone running by solo. If a larger force comes by they quickly run back to their spawn.

Those types I will spawn camp and not feel guilty about it in the least.

The problem with this game is that people are afraid to die. Hence the sitting near spawn & running back like you said, more notably, in my experience, elementalists refusing to fight more than 10 ft from a tower door.

lunyboy.8672:

Shanks R Us.2489:

lunyboy.8672:

Hey, look at that. Here is someone from AR in this very thread spawn-camping Borlis Pass… Now what was that you guys were saying about how dishonorable we are?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFTo6LyENSY

ahahahahahaha. Good job digging that gem up.

Refer to the last song in the video, was a one time thing for me. Our thief, on the other hand, has too much fun doing it

Edit:

Now that I think about it, you guys really shouldn’t take my actions as a reflection of the AR server. Here’s the truth: most people on my server don’t like me, lol. I don’t do ‘real wvw,’ I troll our largest guild [WAR] on map chat all the time (because they’re useless), and I usually tell people to go away when more than 1 or 2 start following me. Honestly, I’m sure people on enemy servers like me more than on my own.

I am on HoD, and I have never and will never spawn camp (except for that one time) but that doesn’t mean that we aren’t all being painted with the same brush just because a few of us have engaged in it.

Once again, I am just keeping everyone honest about their statements in this thread, and this seemed like an appropriate response since it had server names in it and everything.

That’s fair. It may be because I’m rarely in EB, therefore don’t deal with it very often, but I think it’s stupid for people to complain about being spawn camped. Like many have stated, you can go out the other doors. You can also tell people via map chat that there are other exits.

On that note, though, here’s a for-luls screeny from a few matchups ago.

Caption: Everybody does it!

Theftwind.8976:

Now the one question to be asked and answered in regards to “spawn camping”. Are you intent on moving out into the enemy borderlands and capturing something or do you WANT to stay at your spawn, farming those that foolishly come too close to the Legendary defenders? If you are there to farm then I will in turn farm you. I have seen enemies gathered on the rock outside the SW tower that have no intention of taking the tower, even with only one defender inside yet they will kill the dolyaks and anyone running by solo. If a larger force comes by they quickly run back to their spawn.

Those types I will spawn camp and not feel guilty about it in the least.

I’m talking about our spawn in EB where the noobs typically “get their feet wet” in WvW, not BL. And the only farming they might do is as the cabbage, not the hoe.

@Shanks, when the noobs turn tail and head back to PvE because some kittenheads have decided to camp/siege our EB spawn, I’ll come here and ask them to either fess up and say “yeah, we want the ppt so shove it” and tell the noobs to come back next week, or see if they’ll have a chat w/ who ever is doing it and get them to go play with their toys somewhere else. If that’s stupid in your eyes, so be it. I want to add to our WvW population, not sit by and do nothing and watch it sink even further (assuming that’s even possible….is there a T9? ). Even our competition hates that we can’t provide a decent match, so most of them get it.

And for those following along at home, THIS is why folks on AR don’t really like Shanks……he abuses us as much as he does the other team!

j/k

Thorson.9218:

@Shanks, when the noobs turn tail and head back to PvE because some kittenheads have decided to camp/siege our EB spawn, I’ll come here and ask them to either fess up and say “yeah, we want the ppt so shove it” and tell the noobs to come back next week, or see if they’ll have a chat w/ who ever is doing it and get them to go play with their toys somewhere else. If that’s stupid in your eyes, so be it. I want to add to our WvW population, not sit by and do nothing and watch it sink even further (assuming that’s even possible….is there a T9? ). Even our competition hates that we can’t provide a decent match, so most of them get it.

And for those following along at home, THIS is why folks on AR don’t really like Shanks……he abuses us as much as he does the other team!

j/k

I dunno, if the noobs run back to PvE, I don’t think they’ll come back, regardless of what someone posts on the forums. Also, even if you post on the forums asking the other server to stop the second they start doing it, it’s highly doubtful any of them will read it, let alone listen, before getting bored & stopping on their own accord. Glad you’re trying to keep the server healthy & populated, though. I tell people to come to AR when they ask about roaming, if it’s any consolation.

Also, I try not to be biased in the abuse I dish out ^^

I have been very supportive of AR, posted positive messages to your recruitment threads, etc, but when HoD, ET, and others feel they have to post histories of worse suffering than yours in matchup threads then I cant help but feel its time for tough-love. So take this the right way, from someone who isnt speaking for HoD, who has watched HoD suffer way more than most servers ever will – only to rise again as a strong, happy, confident, fun-oriented server.

so without further delay…

The handful of you AR guys QQing on the forums need to stop it already, its been going on for weeks. I understand why you guys have these threads seemingly all over the GW2 forums, but its seriously not healthy for you guys. Consider the other morale-busted A-Rockers who come here and watch players they respect QQing and forum-warrioring over it being someone elses fault (and someone elses cure) is very dangerous since you actually need to get the defeated/negative attitude out of your player base.

I spawn camped both you and DR on sunday (and i will do it again if given a chance). AR and DR had the same number of people trapped in spawn on sunday and both faced equal HoD “campers”. DR wasnt QQing on the forums about it, and DR solved the problem without waiting for a zerg to show up.

Now Im sure AR would prefer I let you go to flip our camps. Instead I will attempt to kill every red text i see coming onto the field of play. Which starts at your steps if i recall not at some imaginary line some distance farther out of your sole choosing. gimme a break.

The only guys i never kill are when its clear they are puggers running back to their zerg who have zero intention of fighting back. But you dont have a zerg, so expect to die screaming as I stake every last one of you and watch me collect my lootbag. If that isnt what you want your new players to face, have them spawn in AR BL and work on building your new player base in a more forgiving environment – after all HoD and DR are not constantly running large zergs there.

a few AR have posted threads in many forums, even a post in the discussion forum recommending changes to gameplay mechanics in order to compensate for your situation. (really!) Ive never seen so many “have mercy”, “attack the other guy”, and “our small team is smaller then your small team no fair”, and “i have a bad opinion of your server after this” threads in my life. enough already.

Ok, on to the love.

you guys need to stop looking for external solutions, which is the common thread in your QQ posts, and find the inner solution (just like HoD did, and SF did, and everyone else who fell down here). the negative, QQing, moaning, begging, threads some AR posters are posting are in-turn read by other ARs who get their low morale reinforced. You need to stop feeding the cycle or you will end up like ET who cant seem to break out of it. ET dosent complain much but the damage was done and they suffer to this day. I really want to see AR as a healthy server having fun with the other servers down here, but the page after page of /cry stuff i have been reading in this matchup thread is not the way to get back on your feet.

You guys need to find the fun down in the basement tiers. stop sending newbs to EB and send them to AR BL to learn the basics with mentor guild, have them party with a vet who mentors them their first week of play and keeps them safe. I do this exact mentor thing on HoD for new players and it results in excited new players confident enough to strike out on their own, but you aint gonna get this by sitting there in EB spawn watching newbs run off to meet spawn campers.

AR has reached the last station, and its time to get off the (QQ) train and find the newer, better AR. I know that one day, if you dont end up like ET, you will much prefer the new AR who now has all its trolls and drama-queens gone (just like when we rid ourselves of Zombieland). You will have more fun with people who love fighting for AR, and there are plenty of challenging fights to be had. Take us as an example: I love the new HoD and if folks knew how awesome it is to play for HoD they would want to come be part of us. AR can have this renewal too, and enjoy WvW down here like we do if you put the fall behind you and focus on getting back on your feet. Your fall is over AR and you survived.

Some of you guys need to change the tone and focus on morale at home and start getting your willing player base excited about an upcoming AR/ET/FC matchup so that you guys can bring AR out in force when it happens. New players fighting HoD and DR zergs in EB isnt the way to do this. sure you guys have been screwed 2 weeks in a row in T8 with SF, DR, and HoD, but eventually the dream matchup will happen for you. Have your troops ready and willing to get back out there for AR! Use your die-hard guilds as the source of this resurgance in morale in the disenchanted players.

This felt like slapping a friend to snap him out of it. Ca’mon AR no more negativity, all of us down here believe in you guys!

You would be honestly amazed at how little negativity there is in /m /t on any of our WvW maps. You almost never see it.

And I’m pretty sure HoD didn’t work it’s way out of it’s free fall in 3 weeks. That’s how long since we have been in the current situation, honestly things are slowly getting better, but that takes time, if any server should be aware of that, it would be HoD.

@Plains of Ashes If there is a fight club, I sure hope you show up. [KAOS] is a huge fan of fighting, and we don’t care about odds, or outmanned or spawn camped, but if you are going to talk the talk…

• But you dont have a zerg, so expect to die screaming as I stake every last one of you and watch me collect my lootbag*

I sure hope you are also open to walk the walk so to speak. Not saying I am going to beat anyone, but I can pretty much guarantee you’re gonna get a work out.

Aside from that, yeah AR is working on getting back up, and we will.

Dovgan.8605:

You would be honestly amazed at how little negativity there is in /m /t on any of our WvW maps. You almost never see it.

It’s probably a good thing I never go to EB, then. I don’t think WAR does either, though.

Keep in mind that spawn camping in EB is strategically forced by the map layout. If any servers wants to defend the keep (which generally they do) they have to spawn camp the main exit because otherwise no yak will ever get through since all keep yaks run directly in the spawn-facing gate.

I don’t know what the big fuss about it is anyway. It means you don’t have to go as far. It means you typically have a strategic advantage as every class has a get out of a bad situation free card that they can use when 6 feet from spawn to not die and none of the spawns are really easily defensible locations anyway (Use them, for reference, war have stability/endure, guardians have stun break/renewed focus among others, ranger has a number of back dodges such as lightning reflexes, engineer has S, thief has numerous shadowsteps, mesmer has blink, ele has mist/flash and necro can precast wurm/walk – build your bar for the situation). Yes, it may discourage the pubs who come into EB, but if you don’t have enough players or leadership to break out of spawn then those random players will be lost and quickly lose interest regardless of the spawn camping.

And to the post two up – HoD does understand it. We got spawn camped in both EB and our own BL for weeks. WvW is war, you won’t get pity from your opponents which is why my servermates are telling you to stick in there. Hopefully you guys get the ET/FC/AR matchup next week now that your rating has dropped sufficiently – I think it’ll be a fairly balanced week and give you guys a chance to rebuild morale. Once the less hardcore players get a chance to come back in after a break they’ll realize how much fun WvW can be and you’ll start rebounding – the downfall of the random matchups now is you don’t know when that’ll be.

Back on the topic of exciting WvW action…

Last night, NA Prime (7/30 sometime around 5-6PM Server), While HoD was most definitely “Zerging hard” on EBG ( I could metaphorically feel the current pull me into DR’s Overlook with all the salmon rushing into the Lord’s room) some brave group from Devona’s Rest ( and I’m sorry in the chaos of it all I didn’t see which guilds were involved ) performed a retaliatory strike on HoD BL.

Kudos, to the commander(s) who lead that offensive. When the call for assistance went out, you already had Hills and both southern towers. Bay’s South Outer Gate had just fallen when we, [Rawr], entered the map.

With the defenders already on map we managed to defeat the attack ( clever feint ) in what looked like a pretty even fight by WvW standards. Meanwhile a much larger group attacked water gate Garrison. Thankfully our scout posted at Garrison alerted us in time for a handful of defenders to keep the point contested long enough for [Mend] and others to join the map as we saved Garrison by the skin of our teeth.

The last desperation strike on North Bay with your remaining Golems was a daring move but, by then we had enough defenders to drive the remaining DR off the map.

Truly exciting and WvW tactics at it’s finest, a memorable night. DR is a worthy opponent and not to be taken lightly. Meanwhile HoD continues to show some really good coordination and teamwork. Bravo.

Everyone gets spawn camped at some time or another. Just need to make a decision as to whether you are going to run at the brick wall and try to demolish it or go round the other way and problem solved.

We did a bit of our own camping last night on HoD BL at south Hills. We made no attempt to get into the keep, just stood on the bridge and farmed a lot of people for a long time. We were mainly outnumbered, and although HoD did have a commander, it was a mixed guild group so we can’t claim that we accomplished any great feats of skill against them.

My point is, because the 8 of us were camped out over there, it seemed like the entire defense force on the HoD BL came over to us and got no-where, didn’t changed up the tactics for ages, untill someone built a balista on the cliff which we managed to take out. People gravitate to the red name tags and allow themselves to be camped or kept busy for some reason. Just the way people work I guess.

Anyway, thanks for the fights HoD.

Much fun was had.

/salute

So I keep trying to WvW but I have this one problem, raptor birds. They keep spawn camping me.

(Insert sad face meme)

Silas Drake.8946:

So I keep trying to WvW but I have this one problem, raptor birds. They keep spawn camping me.

(Insert sad face meme)

I honestly thought HoD, who went through a further fall than AR, had more class. Not the spawn camping, its a valid tactic on a server, but the attitude and the /e spam when you easily outnumber an opponent, the corpse jumping etc from most players I encounter in EB (great job, you just ran over 2 people with 20, gotta feel good) is just lacking in class. I hope AR’s recovery is quick though, because HoD is going to hold a special place in my heart if we recover. Everything that you do here in this matchup will be remembered and it will be paid back in full when we are able.
Some players may think /e will make players get frustrated and give up, but if you see the tags in my sig over a players head, we usually just laugh about it in voice and change direction.

If you see a huge, blonde, bearded Norn warrior with a mace/shield set up in EB, I’m finishing up on the build, and testing it out in your zergs trying to get a feel for the survivability, so yes I will be running him head first into siege, players, etc. Still working out trinkets and rune stacking on him. He’s not quite optimized yet.

Everything is not a personal attack, pie is also better then cake(Devon says so).

You want help optimizing your big sexy norn I’m available most nights. Stop wallowing around all sad faced and go F kitten up. HoD knows what the ground floor looks like, we also don’t forget the past ether. Y’all make me miss ET cause dem MFers got spirit.

Class? GW2 is completely void of class.

Plans and phases… or some junk.

Silas Drake.8946:

Everything is not a personal attack, pie is also better then cake(Devon says so).

You want help optimizing your big sexy norn I’m available most nights. Stop wallowing around all sad faced and go F kitten up. HoD knows what the ground floor looks like, we also don’t forget the past ether. Y’all make me miss ET cause dem MFers got spirit.

Class? GW2 is completely void of class.

Plans and phases… or some junk.

Yes! I could use a fight against a decent mesmer. And don’t miss take what I say. I been having a blast in WvW, so has my guild, but all the /e trash shows new WvW players the absolute worst GW2 players have to offer. I know these are mostly pugs in eternal, it doesn’t matter to me. Considering the assault made on the AR keep yesterday from a paper Bravost, getting multiple walls down while HoD players fumbled to build any sort of counter siege, an HoD commander bringing an omega golem to a paper door with double our manpower and failing, and HoD finally having to zerg rush a paper tower with almost no door/wall health and face pound the door down are more than moment enough to keep me entertained for the week.

How many people actually get offended/discouraged by emotes in a pvp game? I’m genuinely curious. I’m not saying people aren’t and I’m not saying it’s polite or anything, I just want to know.

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

How many people actually get offended/discouraged by emotes in a pvp game? I’m genuinely curious. I’m not saying people aren’t and I’m not saying it’s polite or anything, I just want to know.

I don’t. I have emotes turned off in chat because spamming it is childish and annoying.

ArkAngel.7940:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

How many people actually get offended/discouraged by emotes in a pvp game? I’m genuinely curious. I’m not saying people aren’t and I’m not saying it’s polite or anything, I just want to know.

I don’t. I have emotes turned off in chat because spamming it is childish and annoying.

Same here. Whether it’s WvW, world bosses, or standing around in LA… emotes are off for that exact reason. It’s annoying and childish. But when people take great offense to these knuckleheads, I sometimes have to wonder “why?”

Edit, for addition: I certainly don’t know why an emote would keep someone out of WvW. Maybe continued losses against a force far greater, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone say they weren’t going to WvW anymore because someone /laughed at them.

Dovgan.8605:

Silas Drake.8946:

Everything is not a personal attack, pie is also better then cake(Devon says so).

You want help optimizing your big sexy norn I’m available most nights. Stop wallowing around all sad faced and go F kitten up. HoD knows what the ground floor looks like, we also don’t forget the past ether. Y’all make me miss ET cause dem MFers got spirit.

Class? GW2 is completely void of class.

Plans and phases… or some junk.

Yes! I could use a fight against a decent mesmer. And don’t miss take what I say. I been having a blast in WvW, so has my guild, but all the /e trash shows new WvW players the absolute worst GW2 players have to offer. I know these are mostly pugs in eternal, it doesn’t matter to me. Considering the assault made on the AR keep yesterday from a paper Bravost, getting multiple walls down while HoD players fumbled to build any sort of counter siege, an HoD commander bringing an omega golem to a paper door with double our manpower and failing, and HoD finally having to zerg rush a paper tower with almost no door/wall health and face pound the door down are more than moment enough to keep me entertained for the week.

There we go, much better.

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

ArkAngel.7940:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

How many people actually get offended/discouraged by emotes in a pvp game? I’m genuinely curious. I’m not saying people aren’t and I’m not saying it’s polite or anything, I just want to know.

I don’t. I have emotes turned off in chat because spamming it is childish and annoying.

Same here. Whether it’s WvW, world bosses, or standing around in LA… emotes are off for that exact reason. It’s annoying and childish. But when people take great offense to these knuckleheads, I sometimes have to wonder “why?”

Its the same people who report for language when they haven’t discovered the language filter option.

ArkAngel.7940:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

ArkAngel.7940:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

How many people actually get offended/discouraged by emotes in a pvp game? I’m genuinely curious. I’m not saying people aren’t and I’m not saying it’s polite or anything, I just want to know.

I don’t. I have emotes turned off in chat because spamming it is childish and annoying.

Same here. Whether it’s WvW, world bosses, or standing around in LA… emotes are off for that exact reason. It’s annoying and childish. But when people take great offense to these knuckleheads, I sometimes have to wonder “why?”

Its the same people who report for language when they haven’t discovered the language filter option.

It’s generally younger players. You need to take into account that the hot female you are grouped with is most likely a 12 year old boy.

So I see we have brought up the issue of Pie being the superior dessert. As you can see by this chart; Pie is the optimal food of choice when debating between Pie and Cake. Other prime examples being the flavor anatomy: (See Image 2). While in a cake you are extremely limited: (See Image 3). The equality of pie is greater than cake also (See Image 4). No person is without equal rights! In conclusion, pie is far superior to any type of cake. (See Image 5).

~Devon