Guild Wars 2

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Did we all honestly expect anything different?

Have fun and keep the thread clean!

Yawn....................

Verify Mass DCs in EB?
- SoR

I think we broke the randomising algorithm. I blame [LOVE] with their plans of a cross server mega guild!

Superserver name ‘Sanctum of Black Jade’ kinda has a nice ring to it too.

benjamin.5346:

Verify Mass DCs in EB?
- SoR

BG in EB getting it too

nglcpyro.4906:

I think we broke the randomising algorithm. I blame [LOVE] with their plans of a cross server mega guild!

Superserver name ‘Sanctum of Black Jade’ kinda has a nice ring to it too.

Black…. Jade…. Sounds wrong lol XD

anyway this god kitten mass dc and lag on EB is ridiculous.

This is starting to be really tiring Anet, this is kind of lame that wvw servers have no stability and can’t manage what they should . When are you getting fix it in this current estate game wouldnt go out of beta in such conditions, you run it but it’s completely unplayable iduring hours in smc three ways fights.
It’s high time to have a server that can manage the game itself or upgrade your engine instead of investing in a new game that will be half done also.
It’s like I would buy a Ferrari with a traban engine. You have been awarded of “Game of the year” but seriously if they would test it in real conditions you would never get that nomination (culling has been fix thx god, now give us a game that we CAN PLAY).

I guess I can watch the movie 42 now.

Good luck everyone! SUMMER IS HERE!

XIII.6351:

nglcpyro.4906:

I think we broke the randomising algorithm. I blame [LOVE] with their plans of a cross server mega guild!

Superserver name ‘Sanctum of Black Jade’ kinda has a nice ring to it too.

Black…. Jade…. Sounds wrong lol XD

anyway this god kitten mass dc and lag on EB is ridiculous.

Really? Black Jade is literally just that, which if memory is right in ancient and current cultures is used to ward off bad emotions or something. Got given a necklace of one as a gift a few years back. Just clicked on alternate ‘meanings’… maybe ‘Jade Gate of Rall’ is better. Yep, sticking with that.

Back to chilling and hopefully this lag/dc business stops soon for you all!

Anet has sent the best tech support they got to fix the D/C issues.
(Waits in que….)

Good luck to everyone

Mass Dc’ing and Lag for JQ in EB too. Just posted on the Tech support forum.

Crossing fingers

Peetee.9406:

Yawn………………..

The utter failure of the system is only happening in Tier 1 NA. For Tier 1 EU, Vizunah Square is the old benchmark for that and hasn’t had a problem yet.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Vizunah-Riverside-Desolation (2 servers rotated) today

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/SFR-Vizu-JadeSea (1 server rotated) 7 days ago

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Desolation-Baruch-Bay-Vizunah-Square (2 servers rotated) 14 days ago

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Vizunah-Deso-Jade-Sea (1 server rotated) 21 days ago

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Vizunah-Square-Seafarer-s-Rest-Kodash (2 servers rotated) 28 days ago

Between this and the lag it boggles the mind…

/salute

DeWolfe.2174:

Mass Dc’ing and Lag for JQ in EB too. Just posted on the Tech support forum.

Crossing fingers

Yea, it’s happening too in the green borderland.

Also, something funny for you that happened on our ts. “JQ Zerg has 15…no wait…oh kitten, it’s like 70!!”

Lol

Laylyn.6018:

The utter failure of the system is only happening in Tier 1 NA. For Tier 1 EU, Vizunah Square is the old benchmark for that and hasn’t had a problem yet.

Between this and the lag it boggles the mind…

/salute

I don’t understand…this is probably one of the most even matchups each and every week. Seems like the new system is working just fine. Or do you prefer to play against one or more servers who cannot acheive more than half of your PPT?

Laylyn.6018:

Peetee.9406:

Yawn………………..

The utter failure of the system is only happening in Tier 1 NA. For Tier 1 EU, Vizunah Square is the old benchmark for that and hasn’t had a problem yet.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Vizunah-Riverside-Desolation (2 servers rotated) today

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/SFR-Vizu-JadeSea (1 server rotated) 7 days ago

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Desolation-Baruch-Bay-Vizunah-Square (2 servers rotated) 14 days ago

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Vizunah-Deso-Jade-Sea (1 server rotated) 21 days ago

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Vizunah-Square-Seafarer-s-Rest-Kodash (2 servers rotated) 28 days ago

Between this and the lag it boggles the mind…

/salute

here is a question for u and ppl like u who want a random match up

Why would u wanna face lower pop servers who have no shot at putting up a fight and u would be bored 60% of ur time ?

we here in t1 have some of the best fights and action 24/7. No other server can deal with us. by us i ment all t1 servers

Not everyone runs in your 60 man mega zerg.

Our 4 man havoc can find people to fight against in any match up.

Seriously Anet… Server upgrade…

Eviator.9746:

Laylyn.6018:

The utter failure of the system is only happening in Tier 1 NA. For Tier 1 EU, Vizunah Square is the old benchmark for that and hasn’t had a problem yet.

Between this and the lag it boggles the mind…

/salute

I don’t understand…this is probably one of the most even matchups each and every week. Seems like the new system is working just fine. Or do you prefer to play against one or more servers who cannot acheive more than half of your PPT?

T1 superstacking occurs because there is a T1 in the first place. To a large degree, it’s a chicken and the egg thing.

When we pushed for 6-9 competitive servers, as an NA player base, it failed because of glicko issues and no real rotation. Now that rotation is possible, it’s not happening even though T1 isn’t really supposed to exist anymore.

More rotation might mean short term pain, but it also means a possible better spread of the pvp guilds across the server base. I’d rather see a system that grows that up.

However, I’m also a weirdo that in a global game doesn’t see a purpose in a NA bracket and an EU bracket. I’d rather see the two merged, with a better spread with automatic coverage throughout. It would have canceled most of the EU’s heartache long ago…

The servers are all US side anyway…

/salute

The lag is ridiculous. You screw us with the matchups and then make it so we can’t play the game.

This is not just one server complaining, we all are.

SykkoB.9465:

Laylyn.6018:

Peetee.9406:

Yawn………………..

The utter failure of the system is only happening in Tier 1 NA. For Tier 1 EU, Vizunah Square is the old benchmark for that and hasn’t had a problem yet.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Vizunah-Riverside-Desolation (2 servers rotated) today

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/SFR-Vizu-JadeSea (1 server rotated) 7 days ago

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Desolation-Baruch-Bay-Vizunah-Square (2 servers rotated) 14 days ago

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Vizunah-Deso-Jade-Sea (1 server rotated) 21 days ago

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Vizunah-Square-Seafarer-s-Rest-Kodash (2 servers rotated) 28 days ago

Between this and the lag it boggles the mind…

/salute

here is a question for u and ppl like u who want a random match up

Why would u wanna face lower pop servers who have no shot at putting up a fight and u would be bored 60% of ur time ?

we here in t1 have some of the best fights and action 24/7. No other server can deal with us. by us i ment all t1 servers

As I said above, in a perfect world, I’d merge the two brackets and rotate.

/salute

Laylyn.6018:

T1 superstacking occurs because there is a T1 in the first place. To a large degree, it’s a chicken and the egg thing.

It’s certainly a theory. Let me ask you this: why does your guild not transfer off? What is so great about being a top 3 server that keeps you around? If it’s the 24/7 huge fights, server balance is not going to correct that because, brace yourself, then no matchups are going to have 24/7 huge fights.

Apparently Pro is a multi-server guild.

Eviator.9746:

Laylyn.6018:

T1 superstacking occurs because there is a T1 in the first place. To a large degree, it’s a chicken and the egg thing.

It’s certainly a theory. Let me ask you this: why does your guild not transfer off? What is so great about being a top 3 server that keeps you around? If it’s the 24/7 huge fights, server balance is not going to correct that because, brace yourself, then no matchups are going to have 24/7 huge fights.

I’ve been on BG since day 1. In that, I’ve been in brackets 1-4.

I’ve also been on the player group end that tried to balance out the servers. Your real issue is Oceanic numbers that hold true for what you are talking about above. There simply isn’t enough of a player base to cover every server even in current NA alone.

However, most servers could maintain around 10 – 12 hours of coverage by simply merging EU and NA.

Coverage past that is cake. There would be servers that had it and they would gravitate towards the top. However, more servers would have had more consistent coverage in the long run.

Also, in truth, EU side has been far more plagued with this issue that NA side. It’s dictated the make up of their T1 since launch.

/salute

Eviator.9746:

Laylyn.6018:

T1 superstacking occurs because there is a T1 in the first place. To a large degree, it’s a chicken and the egg thing.

It’s certainly a theory. Let me ask you this: why does your guild not transfer off? What is so great about being a top 3 server that keeps you around? If it’s the 24/7 huge fights, server balance is not going to correct that because, brace yourself, then no matchups are going to have 24/7 huge fights.

Maybe, just maybe, people made friends with who’s on the server. Maybe they like working with certain guilds within the server. Maybe it cost 60g to transfer servers. Not including moving your guild and finding another server that has the same mindset as you. If you want people to move themselves to balance all the servers, brace yourself, people don’t like being forced from their homes.

kyro.8162:

Eviator.9746:

Laylyn.6018:

T1 superstacking occurs because there is a T1 in the first place. To a large degree, it’s a chicken and the egg thing.

It’s certainly a theory. Let me ask you this: why does your guild not transfer off? What is so great about being a top 3 server that keeps you around? If it’s the 24/7 huge fights, server balance is not going to correct that because, brace yourself, then no matchups are going to have 24/7 huge fights.

Maybe, just maybe, people made friends with who’s on the server. Maybe they like working with certain guilds within the server. Maybe it cost 60g to transfer servers. Not including moving your guild and finding another server that has the same mindset as you. If you want people to move themselves to balance all the servers, brace yourself, people don’t like being forced from their homes.

Thank you for the assist. However, I can see his point. Some rotation would be easy for several people if they could transfer for free to certain servers for a limited time. It was rampant back in 2012.

If they ever merged the brackets, I could see a need to do so. Or, they might consider merging the wvw sections for game play between an EU and a NA server. The only real limitation to that idea is EU has more servers than we do, 27 vs 22.

/salute

1. There is no reason to believe that merging EU and NA wouldn’t encourage guilds in the old top 6 to stack on the new top 3.

2. If server pride is important to you (it is to me), then I don’t understand the complaining about stacking. You seem to be saying “I’m not going to move my guild off this server, but other guilds should.”

3. Laylyn is actually not talking about forcing anyone to do anything, he is talking about a system that encourages guilds to want to spread and do so voluntarily. Frankly you have to overcome the prestige of being on a top server by making the gameplay in lower “tiers” more fun. Perhaps the best way to do that is to introduce even more lag.

Eviator.9746:

1. There is no reason to believe that merging EU and NA wouldn’t encourage guilds in the old top 6 to stack on the new top 3.

2. If server pride is important to you (it is to me), then I don’t understand the complaining about stacking. You seem to be saying “I’m not going to move my guild off this server, but other guilds should.”

3. Laylyn is actually not talking about forcing anyone to do anything, he is talking about a system that encourages guilds to want to spread and do so voluntarily. Frankly you have to overcome the prestige of being on a top server by making the gameplay in lower “tiers” more fun. Perhaps the best way to do that is to introduce even more lag.

Thank you for the positive marks. For your concerns, I’d just like to respectfully point out that the current top 3 in EU alone is 7 servers for the past 29 days. You can actually track that EU side by who is fighting VS. If we merged it would be more, for what would be the top bracket.

I wouldn’t mine seeing something like that here. I also wouldn’t mine seeing more styles of fighting, by merging the two brackets.

My 2 cents. Your mileage may vary.

/salute

After crashing 3 times in a row in EB with huge lag skill frozen I deconnect to go to play a game that is working. ty Anet. Gonna spend my 100 monthly bucks in a game that works.

Titan.3472:

After crashing 3 times in a row in EB with huge lag skill frozen I deconnect to go to play a game that is working. ty Anet.

Queue popped, clicked travel, then suddenly dc -_-
Queue popped again, finally got in, standing on spawn then suddenly dc.

Seriously….

Oh look…..this match up again.

Really not seeing the fun in WvW anymore.

Nerifes.4931:

Oh look…..this match up again.

Really not seeing the fun in WvW anymore.

So you’d rather have a huge blowout against any other server rather than a match that is mostly even at least through Tuesday?

nglcpyro.4906:

I think we broke the randomising algorithm. I blame [LOVE] with their plans of a cross server mega guild!

Superserver name ‘Sanctum of Black Jade’ kinda has a nice ring to it too.

Shhhhhhhhhhh snuggles everything is going to be alright!
[LOVE] will save you! <3

Enjoy the fights everyone! I think I’ll try WvW later seeing all these complaints of lag….. :P

Clockradio.3257:

Nerifes.4931:

Oh look…..this match up again.

Really not seeing the fun in WvW anymore.

So you’d rather have a huge blowout against any other server rather than a match that is mostly even at least through Tuesday?

Anything would be more fun than a week with the same old faces. Anything new would be enjoyable. Even if it’s just one server.

This is crazy. Folks complaining about lag because the server is too crowded on reset night. Folks complaining about DCs because these high pop worlds are pushing the WvW servers to and past their limit. Folks bored to tears because they have to sit in a long queue. And folks complaining about having to play the same high ranked servers over and over with no variety.

The signs are all here people! Transfer to lower tiers!

I know one thing i am done playing on jqbl at reset until people learn its a defensive map.There is no excuse to let our north towers be pvd.

Laylyn.6018:

Eviator.9746:

Laylyn.6018:

T1 superstacking occurs because there is a T1 in the first place. To a large degree, it’s a chicken and the egg thing.

It’s certainly a theory. Let me ask you this: why does your guild not transfer off? What is so great about being a top 3 server that keeps you around? If it’s the 24/7 huge fights, server balance is not going to correct that because, brace yourself, then no matchups are going to have 24/7 huge fights.

I’ve been on BG since day 1. In that, I’ve been in brackets 1-4.

I’ve also been on the player group end that tried to balance out the servers. Your real issue is Oceanic numbers that hold true for what you are talking about above. There simply isn’t enough of a player base to cover every server even in current NA alone.

However, most servers could maintain around 10 – 12 hours of coverage by simply merging EU and NA.

Coverage past that is cake. There would be servers that had it and they would gravitate towards the top. However, more servers would have had more consistent coverage in the long run.

Also, in truth, EU side has been far more plagued with this issue that NA side. It’s dictated the make up of their T1 since launch.

/salute

there is a difference in EU and NA gameplay and i dont think EU/NA will be happy with the merging.

NA seem to obsess so much over ppt and score that they don’t seem to “see” beyond it. even GVG’s are looked down upon by many people here. look at this thread itself for example. a “fair” match for NA is score being even thru the week!

in EU a “fair” match is not fighting Vizunah(infact no server wants to fight them), but fighting servers like Piken square, Baruch bay, SFR, simply cos these servers have amazing guilds who run by themselves and always looking for fights with little to no regard to score. most of them dont even look at the score or to “Win” the week.

if both sides are merged, it will again end up with a huge zergfest for the top 6 servers instead of current 3 servers.

Nerifes.4931:

Clockradio.3257:

Nerifes.4931:

Oh look…..this match up again.

Really not seeing the fun in WvW anymore.

So you’d rather have a huge blowout against any other server rather than a match that is mostly even at least through Tuesday?

Anything would be more fun than a week with the same old faces. Anything new would be enjoyable. Even if it’s just one server.

Well if you want something new then find a server that gets shuffled with other server more often.

I only want to farm JQ in mendons this week again…that’s all I can ask for.

Funny thing is that I had no lag or disconnects in EB, but most my guild had. I had those problems after the reset last week. Tonight it was absolutely fine for me – and it’s not a problem with your connection or computer. I remember having this problems in another mmorpg and the problem was somewhere between the server and the carrier they used.

Nerifes.4931:

Oh look…..this match up again.

Really not seeing the fun in WvW anymore.

theres really no pleasing everyone, TC has been stuck in blowout matches for weeks now and would love to be in your guys place and here you are complaining about an even match

ThaOwner.7560:

Nerifes.4931:

Oh look…..this match up again.

Really not seeing the fun in WvW anymore.

theres really no pleasing everyone, TC has been stuck in blowout matches for weeks now and would love to be in your guys place and here you are complaining about an even match

Well atleast you got your tier 2 buddy back.

Also, send some guilds over to JQ and you will get a fuzz hug and Coca-Cola’s secret recipe

Fuzzion.2504:

ThaOwner.7560:

Nerifes.4931:

Oh look…..this match up again.

Really not seeing the fun in WvW anymore.

theres really no pleasing everyone, TC has been stuck in blowout matches for weeks now and would love to be in your guys place and here you are complaining about an even match

Well atleast you got your tier 2 buddy back.

Also, send some guilds over to JQ and you will get a fuzz hug and Coca-Cola’s secret recipe

This, the WvW guilds from TC should just come to JQ. There really is no way for 4 servers to be competitive and there’s no other servers coming up. If you want tier 1 action, you have to move to a tier 1 server.

Eviator.9746:

This is crazy. Folks complaining about lag because the server is too crowded on reset night. Folks complaining about DCs because these high pop worlds are pushing the WvW servers to and past their limit. Folks bored to tears because they have to sit in a long queue. And folks complaining about having to play the same high ranked servers over and over with no variety.

The signs are all here people! Transfer to lower tiers!

No, we clearly need to add the people from the most populated server not in the match as well. Listen to these guys!

Kryyg.8576:

Fuzzion.2504:

ThaOwner.7560:

Nerifes.4931:

Oh look…..this match up again.

Really not seeing the fun in WvW anymore.

theres really no pleasing everyone, TC has been stuck in blowout matches for weeks now and would love to be in your guys place and here you are complaining about an even match

Well atleast you got your tier 2 buddy back.

Also, send some guilds over to JQ and you will get a fuzz hug and Coca-Cola’s secret recipe

This, the WvW guilds from TC should just come to JQ. There really is no way for 4 servers to be competitive and there’s no other servers coming up. If you want tier 1 action, you have to move to a tier 1 server.

styx.7294:

Eviator.9746:

This is crazy. Folks complaining about lag because the server is too crowded on reset night. Folks complaining about DCs because these high pop worlds are pushing the WvW servers to and past their limit. Folks bored to tears because they have to sit in a long queue. And folks complaining about having to play the same high ranked servers over and over with no variety.

The signs are all here people! Transfer to lower tiers!

No, we clearly need to add the people from the most populated server not in the match as well. Listen to these guys!

Kryyg.8576:

Fuzzion.2504:

ThaOwner.7560:

Nerifes.4931:

Oh look…..this match up again.

Really not seeing the fun in WvW anymore.

theres really no pleasing everyone, TC has been stuck in blowout matches for weeks now and would love to be in your guys place and here you are complaining about an even match

Well atleast you got your tier 2 buddy back.

Also, send some guilds over to JQ and you will get a fuzz hug and Coca-Cola’s secret recipe

This, the WvW guilds from TC should just come to JQ. There really is no way for 4 servers to be competitive and there’s no other servers coming up. If you want tier 1 action, you have to move to a tier 1 server.

Server population does not necessarily translate into WvW population. JQ doesn’t even have half the overall WvW population now as SoR or BG. While JQ does have a huge WvW pop compared to your server GoM which is ‘T7’ here we are nearly always outmanned.

JQ always has the strongest reset nights. But it dies off because our Oceanic/Asian/Euro is few very in number. Typically JQ’s NA playerbase runs serious Overtime until we have to go back to work on Monday and are unable to fight ’till the sun rises.

Hexxed.8023:

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You missed the point. The symptoms of a poor experience on reset night are due to your high WvW population, doy! You do not encounter those issues in the other matchups.

And don’t give me the “very few” line for Oceanic/Asian/Euro. When DB was in your matchup with BG, you both held DB to around 100 PPT during your so-called “weak” time slots, and DB is #5.

Hexxed.8023:

styx.7294:

Eviator.9746:

This is crazy. Folks complaining about lag because the server is too crowded on reset night. Folks complaining about DCs because these high pop worlds are pushing the WvW servers to and past their limit. Folks bored to tears because they have to sit in a long queue. And folks complaining about having to play the same high ranked servers over and over with no variety.

The signs are all here people! Transfer to lower tiers!

No, we clearly need to add the people from the most populated server not in the match as well. Listen to these guys!

Kryyg.8576:

Fuzzion.2504:

ThaOwner.7560:

Nerifes.4931:

Oh look…..this match up again.

Really not seeing the fun in WvW anymore.

theres really no pleasing everyone, TC has been stuck in blowout matches for weeks now and would love to be in your guys place and here you are complaining about an even match

Well atleast you got your tier 2 buddy back.

Also, send some guilds over to JQ and you will get a fuzz hug and Coca-Cola’s secret recipe

This, the WvW guilds from TC should just come to JQ. There really is no way for 4 servers to be competitive and there’s no other servers coming up. If you want tier 1 action, you have to move to a tier 1 server.

Server population does not necessarily translate into WvW population. JQ doesn’t even have half the overall WvW population now as SoR or BG. While JQ does have a huge WvW pop compared to your server GoM which is ‘T7’ here we are nearly always outmanned.

JQ always has the strongest reset nights. But it dies off because our Oceanic/Asian/Euro is few very in number. Typically JQ’s NA playerbase runs serious Overtime until we have to go back to work on Monday and are unable to fight ’till the sun rises.

The post was about the tier rather than Jade Quarry and it wasn’t very serious, I can’t know what your match up is like havin never been in it.

My 2 cents though (‘cause it’s a forum and I got time to waste):

If Jade Quarry is really in that dire straits, it ought to get out of the tier and make room for someone else who could do it better. If no one else can do it better, let Blackgate and Sanctum Rall bore themselves until they transfer people off. It seems really outlandish for the 3rd place server to talk about it being important that it gets transfers instead of say.. I dunno, Eredon Terrace? My posts are mostly in jest, it’s hard for me to talk about transfers seriously anymore. It all seems kinda ridiculous.

Eviator.9746:

You missed the point. The symptoms of a poor experience on reset night are due to your high WvW population, doy! You do not encounter those issues in the other matchups.

And don’t give me the “very few” line for Oceanic/Asian/Euro. When DB was in your matchup with BG, you both held DB to around 100 PPT during your so-called “weak” time slots, and DB is #5.

Well, because it was DB. Which is mainly the rejects that bailed off of JQ.

Nice try. Enjoy your lag, queues, and dc’s, and feel free to complain to ANet about it because you’re not bright enough to realize it’s actually your stack-addicted mentality that is causing it.