Guild Wars 2

Stupendous Man.4920:

Fuzzion.2504:

Based on

nPr = n! / (n – r)!
6P3 = 6! / (6 – 3)! = 6! / 3! = (6)(5)(4) = 120

There are a total of 120 possible permutations in the gold league.

But then again my maths is horrible. Can someone confirm if this true?

This is incorrect as nPr (permutations) does take into account the order of things. For example, JQ/SoR/BG is different to JQ/BG/SoR, but as far as match-ups are concerned they are the same. What you need is nCr (combinations):

6C3 = 6!/(3!3!) = 20.

There are a total of 20 distinct match-ups.

Representing the six servers by letters: A, B, C, D, E, and F we have the follow possible match-ups:
A/B/C
A/B/D
A/B/E
A/B/F
A/C/D
A/C/E
A/C/F
A/D/E
A/D/F
A/E/F
B/C/D
B/C/E
B/C/F
B/D/E
B/D/F
B/E/F
C/D/E
C/D/F
C/E/F
D/E/F

Since there are two sets of 3 servers matched against each other, we have the following possible pairings (match-up 1 | match-up 2):
A/B/C | D/E/F
A/B/D | C/E/F
A/B/E | C/D/F
A/B/F | C/D/E
A/C/D | B/E/F
A/C/E | B/D/F
A/C/F | B/D/E
A/D/E | B/C/F
A/D/F | B/C/E
A/E/F | B/C/D

9 out of 10 possible matchups will be blowouts?

Sounds about right to me!

ykyk.2740:

Stupendous Man.4920:

Fuzzion.2504:

Based on

nPr = n! / (n – r)!
6P3 = 6! / (6 – 3)! = 6! / 3! = (6)(5)(4) = 120

There are a total of 120 possible permutations in the gold league.

But then again my maths is horrible. Can someone confirm if this true?

This is incorrect as nPr (permutations) does take into account the order of things. For example, JQ/SoR/BG is different to JQ/BG/SoR, but as far as match-ups are concerned they are the same. What you need is nCr (combinations):

6C3 = 6!/(3!3!) = 20.

There are a total of 20 distinct match-ups.

Representing the six servers by letters: A, B, C, D, E, and F we have the follow possible match-ups:
A/B/C
A/B/D
A/B/E
A/B/F
A/C/D
A/C/E
A/C/F
A/D/E
A/D/F
A/E/F
B/C/D
B/C/E
B/C/F
B/D/E
B/D/F
B/E/F
C/D/E
C/D/F
C/E/F
D/E/F

Since there are two sets of 3 servers matched against each other, we have the following possible pairings (match-up 1 | match-up 2):
A/B/C | D/E/F
A/B/D | C/E/F
A/B/E | C/D/F
A/B/F | C/D/E
A/C/D | B/E/F
A/C/E | B/D/F
A/C/F | B/D/E
A/D/E | B/C/F
A/D/F | B/C/E
A/E/F | B/C/D

9 out of 10 possible matchups will be blowouts?

Sounds about right to me!

According to http://ncalculators.com/statistics/permutation-combination-calculator.htm

it works out.

As regards to Blowouts

Anet hopes that T1 guilds will spill onto T2. So , As the season progresses , t1 and t2 will have equal numbers. Anet has high ambitions.

However, i suspect this is what will happen. Blowouts will,may or may not occur because the t2 servers will,may, or may not 2 v 1 the tier 1 server they are fighting. This is all speculation. I think no one really knows until season 1 passes.

I’m hoping Servers E and F join up and decide to do something other than WvW for 7 weeks. That will leave the gold league with 6 1v1 matchups and 4 1v0 matchups.

What’s up with the ridiculous lag spikes on SoS BL?

Swamurabi.7890:

I’m hoping Servers E and F join up and decide to do something other than WvW for 7 weeks. That will leave the gold league with 6 1v1 matchups and 4 1v0 matchups.

yeah seriously we just leave when its like that, no point in even trying to cap something. it wil get swarmed by 70 people shortly or even 35 people portalbomb 5 people and a cata…o.0
oi we must be sooo scarry…
so we will just deny u the karma train during downtime, lets see how u get your achievements for the leagues.
plus can u stop buying our guilds? its getting ridiculous, unless u just wanna destroy servers so your overstacked servers dont have to work hard to win.

selan.8354:

Swamurabi.7890:

I’m hoping Servers E and F join up and decide to do something other than WvW for 7 weeks. That will leave the gold league with 6 1v1 matchups and 4 1v0 matchups.

yeah seriously we just leave when its like that, no point in even trying to cap something. it wil get swarmed by 70 people shortly or even 35 people portalbomb 5 people and a cata…o.0
oi we must be sooo scarry…
so we will just deny u the karma train during downtime, lets see how u get your achievements for the leagues.
plus can u stop buying our guilds? its getting ridiculous, unless u just wanna destroy servers so your overstacked servers dont have to work hard to win.

There is a big difference between buying guilds, and assisting guilds interested in the server with gold.

ekleenex.1654:

selan.8354:

Swamurabi.7890:

I’m hoping Servers E and F join up and decide to do something other than WvW for 7 weeks. That will leave the gold league with 6 1v1 matchups and 4 1v0 matchups.

yeah seriously we just leave when its like that, no point in even trying to cap something. it wil get swarmed by 70 people shortly or even 35 people portalbomb 5 people and a cata…o.0
oi we must be sooo scarry…
so we will just deny u the karma train during downtime, lets see how u get your achievements for the leagues.
plus can u stop buying our guilds? its getting ridiculous, unless u just wanna destroy servers so your overstacked servers dont have to work hard to win.

There is a big difference between buying guilds, and assisting guilds interested in the server with gold.

lol you sound like a US politician. Are you a congressman? You should look into becoming one. You seem to have the mouth for it.

Can we change the discussion in this thread from mathematics to chaos theory?

xTiMeBoMBx.2863:

ekleenex.1654:

selan.8354:

Swamurabi.7890:

I’m hoping Servers E and F join up and decide to do something other than WvW for 7 weeks. That will leave the gold league with 6 1v1 matchups and 4 1v0 matchups.

yeah seriously we just leave when its like that, no point in even trying to cap something. it wil get swarmed by 70 people shortly or even 35 people portalbomb 5 people and a cata…o.0
oi we must be sooo scarry…
so we will just deny u the karma train during downtime, lets see how u get your achievements for the leagues.
plus can u stop buying our guilds? its getting ridiculous, unless u just wanna destroy servers so your overstacked servers dont have to work hard to win.

There is a big difference between buying guilds, and assisting guilds interested in the server with gold.

lol you sound like a US politician. Are you a congressman? You should look into becoming one. You seem to have the mouth for it.

So there is no difference between a server offering transfer cost + additional gold to persuade a guild to move and assisting a guild with transfer cost to a server they already decided previously they were going to transfer to? Don’t get me started on US politicians right now.

Seasniffer.1763:

http://emboldcreative.net/jedquarry.gif

Summary of this weeks matchup.

Really?
Please repalce jq with a sumo ringer and we might get a more reality like picture. Hopefully you will not one day suddenly crash through the floor due to weight issues.

Starting to warm up to JQ been a very profitable week guys thanks for the fights and mucho bags. Found my first JQ solo roamer to kill me last night. Little asuran Guard in FABL didn’t see the tag was too busy getting rolled. For those trying out small group vs. JQ let it be known that the JQ server is in the neighborhood of 60-70% warrior and guardians. If you see them outside of their hammer karma trains, all it takes is a little small group class composition, and a small semblance of how this game works and you will be paid handsomely in heavy loot bags. It also seems like they expect us to run when they have the numbers on us (T1 mentality), so go at em’ hard they won’t expect it. I find JQ player base to be the most skilled of the T1 servers, but they simply can’t compete in fights under 10 per side with SOS,FA, and MAG.
As for SOS I see you over there behind that 50 man jq blob, hope you’re having fun too.

met some nice folks from both SoS and FA. No showboating, camping corpses, taunting and other childish things im accustomed to from BG and SOR. Had some honorable great duels in ruins as well. Thanks for the fun FA and SOS.

/salute

ekleenex.1654:

selan.8354:

Swamurabi.7890:

I’m hoping Servers E and F join up and decide to do something other than WvW for 7 weeks. That will leave the gold league with 6 1v1 matchups and 4 1v0 matchups.

yeah seriously we just leave when its like that, no point in even trying to cap something. it wil get swarmed by 70 people shortly or even 35 people portalbomb 5 people and a cata…o.0
oi we must be sooo scarry…
so we will just deny u the karma train during downtime, lets see how u get your achievements for the leagues.
plus can u stop buying our guilds? its getting ridiculous, unless u just wanna destroy servers so your overstacked servers dont have to work hard to win.

There is a big difference between buying guilds, and assisting guilds interested in the server with gold.

Bullkitten ,as far as i have seen the big guilds in jq dont need more guilds.
They are just buying the rest down to kill the competition.
When you strip a server out of its infrastructure and organisation,there isnt much opposition left.
Imagine the current match up from my point of view where all i see are traitors in red.
Theres merc,then theres leet that used to hold the infrastructure of sos and then got bought and list goes on.
You can say its the guild interested to move to jq,but we all have seen how many “recruiters” run around tossing offers to guild leaders.
No matter how much you sugarcoat it,corruption remains corruption.

grave of hearts.7830:

ekleenex.1654:

selan.8354:

Swamurabi.7890:

I’m hoping Servers E and F join up and decide to do something other than WvW for 7 weeks. That will leave the gold league with 6 1v1 matchups and 4 1v0 matchups.

yeah seriously we just leave when its like that, no point in even trying to cap something. it wil get swarmed by 70 people shortly or even 35 people portalbomb 5 people and a cata…o.0
oi we must be sooo scarry…
so we will just deny u the karma train during downtime, lets see how u get your achievements for the leagues.
plus can u stop buying our guilds? its getting ridiculous, unless u just wanna destroy servers so your overstacked servers dont have to work hard to win.

There is a big difference between buying guilds, and assisting guilds interested in the server with gold.

Bullkitten ,as far as i have seen the big guilds in jq dont need more guilds.
They are just buying the rest down to kill the competition.
When you strip a server out of its infrastructure and organisation,there isnt much opposition left.
Imagine the current match up from my point of view where all i see are traitors in red.
Theres merc,then theres leet that used to hold the infrastructure of sos and then got bought and list goes on.
You can say its the guild interested to move to jq,but we all have seen how many “recruiters” run around tossing offers to guild leaders.
No matter how much you sugarcoat it,corruption remains corruption.

You do realize we are the lower wvw population of the 3 tier one servers right?

That’s like saying you have the smallest mansion in all the Hamptons. No body but you yuppies in T1 living the wagon life give a kitten. You all act like the 1% ruining the game play lives of everyone else competing to see who has the biggest kitten. When you’re all really just hiding behind your ivory zerg ball.

Super Kruegs.8967:

That’s like saying you have the smallest mansion in all the Hamptons. No body but you yuppies in T1 living the wagon life give a kitten. You all act like the 1% ruining the game play lives of everyone else competing to see who has the biggest kitten. When you’re all really just hiding behind your ivory zerg ball.

My guild would gladly meet yours for some fun open field. HOPE,RET,and RISE have met up with us in the past and it has been pretty honorable on both sides. We have always been willing to meet up with other server guilds as long as everything is kept respectable.

Robot Chocken.7012:

grave of hearts.7830:

ekleenex.1654:

selan.8354:

Swamurabi.7890:

I’m hoping Servers E and F join up and decide to do something other than WvW for 7 weeks. That will leave the gold league with 6 1v1 matchups and 4 1v0 matchups.

yeah seriously we just leave when its like that, no point in even trying to cap something. it wil get swarmed by 70 people shortly or even 35 people portalbomb 5 people and a cata…o.0
oi we must be sooo scarry…
so we will just deny u the karma train during downtime, lets see how u get your achievements for the leagues.
plus can u stop buying our guilds? its getting ridiculous, unless u just wanna destroy servers so your overstacked servers dont have to work hard to win.

There is a big difference between buying guilds, and assisting guilds interested in the server with gold.

Bullkitten ,as far as i have seen the big guilds in jq dont need more guilds.
They are just buying the rest down to kill the competition.
When you strip a server out of its infrastructure and organisation,there isnt much opposition left.
Imagine the current match up from my point of view where all i see are traitors in red.
Theres merc,then theres leet that used to hold the infrastructure of sos and then got bought and list goes on.
You can say its the guild interested to move to jq,but we all have seen how many “recruiters” run around tossing offers to guild leaders.
No matter how much you sugarcoat it,corruption remains corruption.

You do realize we are the lower wvw population of the 3 tier one servers right?

And here i thought you had 6 hour queues on all maps.
You need more people?

grave of hearts.7830:

Robot Chocken.7012:

grave of hearts.7830:

ekleenex.1654:

selan.8354:

Swamurabi.7890:

I’m hoping Servers E and F join up and decide to do something other than WvW for 7 weeks. That will leave the gold league with 6 1v1 matchups and 4 1v0 matchups.

yeah seriously we just leave when its like that, no point in even trying to cap something. it wil get swarmed by 70 people shortly or even 35 people portalbomb 5 people and a cata…o.0
oi we must be sooo scarry…
so we will just deny u the karma train during downtime, lets see how u get your achievements for the leagues.
plus can u stop buying our guilds? its getting ridiculous, unless u just wanna destroy servers so your overstacked servers dont have to work hard to win.

There is a big difference between buying guilds, and assisting guilds interested in the server with gold.

Bullkitten ,as far as i have seen the big guilds in jq dont need more guilds.
They are just buying the rest down to kill the competition.
When you strip a server out of its infrastructure and organisation,there isnt much opposition left.
Imagine the current match up from my point of view where all i see are traitors in red.
Theres merc,then theres leet that used to hold the infrastructure of sos and then got bought and list goes on.
You can say its the guild interested to move to jq,but we all have seen how many “recruiters” run around tossing offers to guild leaders.
No matter how much you sugarcoat it,corruption remains corruption.

You do realize we are the lower wvw population of the 3 tier one servers right?

And here i thought you had 6 hour queues on all maps.
You need more people?

I am being chill and saying we will meet other servers to fight how they like just as stated above. Are you just here to complain?

I just dont call buying guilds to criple a server “helping”.
Though in easymode’s case i guess we should had paid you instead to take him.
In the end jq kinda did us a favor there.
And if i was to complain about something that would be jq attitude,but when a server is full of bandwagoneers you cant really expect much.
Thats all there is to it,i am just saying things by theyr name.

grave of hearts.7830:

I just dont call buying guilds to criple a server “helping”.
Though in easymode’s case i guess we should had paid you instead to take him.
In the end jq kinda did us a favor there.

I lul’ed quite a bit

grave of hearts.7830:

I just dont call buying guilds to criple a server “helping”.
Though in easymode’s case i guess we should had paid you instead to take him.
In the end jq kinda did us a favor there.
And if i was to complain about something that would be jq attitude,but when a server is full of bandwagoneers you cant really expect much.
Thats all there is to it,i am just saying things by theyr name.

Then the best course of action is
:quit rage pouting
:realize JQ did not do this to you Anet did
:send a complaint to Anet for giving you this match up.
:log out

Le Rooster.8715:

Robot Chocken.7012:

grave of hearts.7830:

I just dont call buying guilds to criple a server “helping”.
Though in easymode’s case i guess we should had paid you instead to take him.
In the end jq kinda did us a favor there.
And if i was to complain about something that would be jq attitude,but when a server is full of bandwagoneers you cant really expect much.
Thats all there is to it,i am just saying things by theyr name.

Then the best course of action is to realize
JQ has Asian gold sellers so we can pay a higher price to any guild
JQ will superstack and there is nothing you can do about it (we have done so in the past)
JQ don’t really have any skill and the guilds which claimed to have skill which transferred here lost all their skill by travelling in the big blobs.
So there is really nothing you can do, even though we knew this was coming we decided to stack so all you can do is suck up our mismatch as we love pvdooring and
log out

Wow you explained that well.

You can always message me in game for to face my guild in the field. How about HzH vs SoS full queue. Clearly we will lose because we have no skill

Robot Chocken.7012:

Le Rooster.8715:

Robot Chocken.7012:

grave of hearts.7830:

I just dont call buying guilds to criple a server “helping”.
Though in easymode’s case i guess we should had paid you instead to take him.
In the end jq kinda did us a favor there.
And if i was to complain about something that would be jq attitude,but when a server is full of bandwagoneers you cant really expect much.
Thats all there is to it,i am just saying things by theyr name.

Then the best course of action is to realize
JQ has Asian gold sellers so we can pay a higher price to any guild
JQ will superstack and there is nothing you can do about it (we have done so in the past)
JQ don’t really have any skill and the guilds which claimed to have skill which transferred here lost all their skill by travelling in the big blobs.
So there is really nothing you can do, even though we knew this was coming we decided to stack so all you can do is suck up our mismatch as we love pvdooring and
log out

Wow you explained that well.

You can always message me in game for to face my guild in the field. How about HzH vs SoS full queue. Clearly we will lose because we have no skill

Just saying the full potential of some of your guilds gets tainted by your superiour numbers *cough NS, Agg. The only competition you will get is vs SoR as BG seems to be having some trouble in paradise. And that will be like 3 weeks out of 7 in the leagues.

Also have nothing against HzH, you guys are an admirable guild which stuck it out on JQ during the harsh times. Just have a problem with your gold sellers/recruiters and those bandwagoners which joined your server that will fill your queues once PVE comes into play.

Werat.7063:

Seasniffer.1763:

http://emboldcreative.net/jedquarry.gif

Summary of this weeks matchup.

Really?
Please repalce jq with a sumo ringer and we might get a more reality like picture. Hopefully you will not one day suddenly crash through the floor due to weight issues.

<3 you too

[/quote]

You can always message me in game for to face my guild in the field. How about HzH vs SoS full queue. Clearly we will lose because we have no skill[/quote]

Most likely you will win because atm a large part of SoS is bandwagoneers that just arrived showing no respect for the natives and have the iq of a potato.
They tend to stop functioning when not a blue dorrito is shown on the map/minimap.

Robot Chocken.7012:

Super Kruegs.8967:

That’s like saying you have the smallest mansion in all the Hamptons. No body but you yuppies in T1 living the wagon life give a kitten. You all act like the 1% ruining the game play lives of everyone else competing to see who has the biggest kitten. When you’re all really just hiding behind your ivory zerg ball.

My guild would gladly meet yours for some fun open field. HOPE,RET,and RISE have met up with us in the past and it has been pretty honorable on both sides. We have always been willing to meet up with other server guilds as long as everything is kept respectable.

kitten not raiding tonight maybe next time. Thanks for the offer look forward to the next match up. IDK what you guys run but we’re usually 8 at the most hopefully we have enough to give you guys a good fight.

Le Rooster.8715:

grave of hearts.7830:

I just dont call buying guilds to criple a server “helping”.
Though in easymode’s case i guess we should had paid you instead to take him.
In the end jq kinda did us a favor there.

I lul’ed quite a bit

I lul’ed moar.

So true rooster. Our 30 man groups should totally split into groups of 10 to prove our true skill!!!!!

Super Kruegs.8967:

Starting to warm up to JQ been a very profitable week guys thanks for the fights and mucho bags. Found my first JQ solo roamer to kill me last night. Little asuran Guard in FABL didn’t see the tag was too busy getting rolled. For those trying out small group vs. JQ let it be known that the JQ server is in the neighborhood of 60-70% warrior and guardians. If you see them outside of their hammer karma trains, all it takes is a little small group class composition, and a small semblance of how this game works and you will be paid handsomely in heavy loot bags. It also seems like they expect us to run when they have the numbers on us (T1 mentality), so go at em’ hard they won’t expect it. I find JQ player base to be the most skilled of the T1 servers, but they simply can’t compete in fights under 10 per side with SOS,FA, and MAG.
As for SOS I see you over there behind that 50 man jq blob, hope you’re having fun too.

Late late last night (NA) myself, an extremely drunk Jed in zerker gear, a couple other SF and some pugs totalling about 10 people took hills on FA BL vs a group of about 15 to 20 FA and then took out a group of SoS who were waiting inside after we capped it that was around 25. Plenty of us Jed Quarrians do just fine when ridiculously out numbered like that.

PRAISE JED___!

Does anybody want to scrim 20v20? Please message me or Wokfoo if you’re interested. It’s been a slow week and let’s try to make it fun at the very least!

Has JQ won yet?

sostronk.8167:

Has JQ won yet?

No the disconnect issues on SoS BL have beaten us.

There are good and bad players on every server. There are people trying to enjoy the game on every server. Please try to treat fellow gamers with respect.

Some very good fights in eternal last night oceanic, we held Veloka and our keep for as long as we could and I was enjoying the struggle immensely.

Good luck to you all in the leagues.

Le Rooster.8715:

Just saying the full potential of some of your guilds gets tainted by your superiour numbers *cough NS, Agg. The only competition you will get is vs SoR as BG seems to be having some trouble in paradise. And that will be like 3 weeks out of 7 in the leagues.

Also have nothing against HzH, you guys are an admirable guild which stuck it out on JQ during the harsh times. Just have a problem with your gold sellers/recruiters and those bandwagoners which joined your server that will fill your queues once PVE comes into play.

#getgud. NS only runs 15

NS vs RET 15v15 scrimmage http://www.twitch.tv/numberonemesmer

Thank you FA and SoS for not giving up. You are good mates and JQ has high respect for you because you never gave up. And we love that spirit. Keep it up.

JQ, well done. And to the new transfers, welcome to JQ.

Now may we all give toast to jedsus chris ! Long live Jed Quarry !

elkirin.8534:

There are good and bad players on every server. There are people trying to enjoy the game on every server. Please try to treat fellow gamers with respect.

Some very good fights in eternal last night oceanic, we held Veloka and our keep for as long as we could and I was enjoying the struggle immensely.

Good luck to you all in the leagues.

Good job holding out so long at overlook, you can only do so much against those numbers (queued EB zerg) – keep it up for leagues and don’t get discouraged.

Fuzzion.2504:

ykyk.2740:

Stupendous Man.4920:

Fuzzion.2504:

Based on

nPr = n! / (n – r)!
6P3 = 6! / (6 – 3)! = 6! / 3! = (6)(5)(4) = 120

There are a total of 120 possible permutations in the gold league.

But then again my maths is horrible. Can someone confirm if this true?

This is incorrect as nPr (permutations) does take into account the order of things. For example, JQ/SoR/BG is different to JQ/BG/SoR, but as far as match-ups are concerned they are the same. What you need is nCr (combinations):

6C3 = 6!/(3!3!) = 20.

There are a total of 20 distinct match-ups.

Representing the six servers by letters: A, B, C, D, E, and F we have the follow possible match-ups:
A/B/C
A/B/D
A/B/E
A/B/F
A/C/D
A/C/E
A/C/F
A/D/E
A/D/F
A/E/F
B/C/D
B/C/E
B/C/F
B/D/E
B/D/F
B/E/F
C/D/E
C/D/F
C/E/F
D/E/F

Since there are two sets of 3 servers matched against each other, we have the following possible pairings (match-up 1 | match-up 2):
A/B/C | D/E/F
A/B/D | C/E/F
A/B/E | C/D/F
A/B/F | C/D/E
A/C/D | B/E/F
A/C/E | B/D/F
A/C/F | B/D/E
A/D/E | B/C/F
A/D/F | B/C/E
A/E/F | B/C/D

9 out of 10 possible matchups will be blowouts?

Sounds about right to me!

According to http://ncalculators.com/statistics/permutation-combination-calculator.htm

it works out.

As regards to Blowouts

Anet hopes that T1 guilds will spill onto T2. So , As the season progresses , t1 and t2 will have equal numbers. Anet has high ambitions.

However, i suspect this is what will happen. Blowouts will,may or may not occur because the t2 servers will,may, or may not 2 v 1 the tier 1 server they are fighting. This is all speculation. I think no one really knows until season 1 passes.

I don’t think even a dedicated 2v1 can allow any T2 server to beat any T1 server at this point, not to mention a dedicated 2v1 is impossible to begin with.

The best that can happen for the good of the game at this point is for EVERYONE to transfer to T1 and then quit the game out of boredom, resetting the ladder God knows T1 servers are helping that along nicely already =/

Santa.4753:

So true rooster. Our 30 man groups should totally split into groups of 10 to prove our true skill!!!!!

Yes, you guys did start out as a roaming guild small man group.

Tarkus.4109:

elkirin.8534:

There are good and bad players on every server. There are people trying to enjoy the game on every server. Please try to treat fellow gamers with respect.

Some very good fights in eternal last night oceanic, we held Veloka and our keep for as long as we could and I was enjoying the struggle immensely.

Good luck to you all in the leagues.

Good job holding out so long at overlook, you can only do so much against those numbers (queued EB zerg) – keep it up for leagues and don’t get discouraged.

it’s tough being spawn camped 6 weeks out of 7 yo

Mushin Tips.1623:

Le Rooster.8715:

Just saying the full potential of some of your guilds gets tainted by your superiour numbers *cough NS, Agg. The only competition you will get is vs SoR as BG seems to be having some trouble in paradise. And that will be like 3 weeks out of 7 in the leagues.

Also have nothing against HzH, you guys are an admirable guild which stuck it out on JQ during the harsh times. Just have a problem with your gold sellers/recruiters and those bandwagoners which joined your server that will fill your queues once PVE comes into play.

#getgud. NS only runs 15

NS vs RET 15v15 scrimmage http://www.twitch.tv/numberonemesmer

#Amgud

Le Rooster.8715:

#Amgud

i guess you didnt get the reference…. since you didnt get the joke you still need to #getgud

Le Rooster.8715:

Mushin Tips.1623:

Le Rooster.8715:

Just saying the full potential of some of your guilds gets tainted by your superiour numbers *cough NS, Agg. The only competition you will get is vs SoR as BG seems to be having some trouble in paradise. And that will be like 3 weeks out of 7 in the leagues.

Also have nothing against HzH, you guys are an admirable guild which stuck it out on JQ during the harsh times. Just have a problem with your gold sellers/recruiters and those bandwagoners which joined your server that will fill your queues once PVE comes into play.

#getgud. NS only runs 15

NS vs RET 15v15 scrimmage http://www.twitch.tv/numberonemesmer

#Amgud

Out of curiosity whats your limit before you consider something a zerg? Serious question.

Yes NS started out small with like 10 members….then we recruited….I don’t get what your point is.

Cryptik.7298:

Le Rooster.8715:

Mushin Tips.1623:

Le Rooster.8715:

Just saying the full potential of some of your guilds gets tainted by your superiour numbers *cough NS, Agg. The only competition you will get is vs SoR as BG seems to be having some trouble in paradise. And that will be like 3 weeks out of 7 in the leagues.

Also have nothing against HzH, you guys are an admirable guild which stuck it out on JQ during the harsh times. Just have a problem with your gold sellers/recruiters and those bandwagoners which joined your server that will fill your queues once PVE comes into play.

#getgud. NS only runs 15

NS vs RET 15v15 scrimmage http://www.twitch.tv/numberonemesmer

#Amgud

Out of curiosity whats your limit before you consider something a zerg? Serious question.

Nice to see you sleven. Where is christina?

Hmmm i think for most folks there are 3 type of zergs with difference in T1 vs T2 style

Small zerg is anything less than 15 for T2 while 20 for T1

Medium zerg is anything less than 25 for T2 while 40 for T1

Large kitten zerg is anything less than 50 for T2 while 80 for T1

Fuzzion.2504:

Cryptik.7298:

Le Rooster.8715:

Mushin Tips.1623:

Le Rooster.8715:

Just saying the full potential of some of your guilds gets tainted by your superiour numbers *cough NS, Agg. The only competition you will get is vs SoR as BG seems to be having some trouble in paradise. And that will be like 3 weeks out of 7 in the leagues.

Also have nothing against HzH, you guys are an admirable guild which stuck it out on JQ during the harsh times. Just have a problem with your gold sellers/recruiters and those bandwagoners which joined your server that will fill your queues once PVE comes into play.

#getgud. NS only runs 15

NS vs RET 15v15 scrimmage http://www.twitch.tv/numberonemesmer

#Amgud

Out of curiosity whats your limit before you consider something a zerg? Serious question.

Nice to see you sleven. Where is christina?

Hmmm i think for most folks there are 3 type of zergs with difference in T1 vs T2 style

Small zerg is anything less than 15 for T2 while 20 for T1

Medium zerg is anything less than 25 for T2 while 40 for T1

Large kitten zerg is anything less than 50 for T2 while 80 for T1

Sup Fuzzion, Good to see ya again.

If you mean Lee, he split off from NS back in DB and as I understand it co-leads a guild [EE] that recently transferred to BG.

As for the zerg lines, I’m curious as to how Rooster and others would feel about the numbers listed above.

Good fight JQ! SoS and FA will be sure to learn from your superior tactics to do better in next weeks WvW!

Cryptik.7298:

Fuzzion.2504:

Cryptik.7298:

Le Rooster.8715:

Mushin Tips.1623:

Le Rooster.8715:

Just saying the full potential of some of your guilds gets tainted by your superiour numbers *cough NS, Agg. The only competition you will get is vs SoR as BG seems to be having some trouble in paradise. And that will be like 3 weeks out of 7 in the leagues.

Also have nothing against HzH, you guys are an admirable guild which stuck it out on JQ during the harsh times. Just have a problem with your gold sellers/recruiters and those bandwagoners which joined your server that will fill your queues once PVE comes into play.

#getgud. NS only runs 15

NS vs RET 15v15 scrimmage http://www.twitch.tv/numberonemesmer

#Amgud

Out of curiosity whats your limit before you consider something a zerg? Serious question.

Nice to see you sleven. Where is christina?

Hmmm i think for most folks there are 3 type of zergs with difference in T1 vs T2 style

Small zerg is anything less than 15 for T2 while 20 for T1

Medium zerg is anything less than 25 for T2 while 40 for T1

Large kitten zerg is anything less than 50 for T2 while 80 for T1

Sup Fuzzion, Good to see ya again.

If you mean Lee, he split off from NS back in DB and as I understand it co-leads a guild [EE] that recently transferred to BG.

As for the zerg lines, I’m curious as to how Rooster and others would feel about the numbers listed above.

I think those numbers are quite accurate, i’m not actually against zergs i don’t mind them. While i do prefer smaller scale fights i’m not anti zerg, where my problem lies is with guilds transferring to t1 clearly knowing that competition will be thin with leagues coming out.

Le Rooster.8715:

Cryptik.7298:

Fuzzion.2504:

Cryptik.7298:

Le Rooster.8715:

Mushin Tips.1623:

Le Rooster.8715:

Just saying the full potential of some of your guilds gets tainted by your superiour numbers *cough NS, Agg. The only competition you will get is vs SoR as BG seems to be having some trouble in paradise. And that will be like 3 weeks out of 7 in the leagues.

Also have nothing against HzH, you guys are an admirable guild which stuck it out on JQ during the harsh times. Just have a problem with your gold sellers/recruiters and those bandwagoners which joined your server that will fill your queues once PVE comes into play.

#getgud. NS only runs 15

NS vs RET 15v15 scrimmage http://www.twitch.tv/numberonemesmer

#Amgud

Out of curiosity whats your limit before you consider something a zerg? Serious question.

Nice to see you sleven. Where is christina?

Hmmm i think for most folks there are 3 type of zergs with difference in T1 vs T2 style

Small zerg is anything less than 15 for T2 while 20 for T1

Medium zerg is anything less than 25 for T2 while 40 for T1

Large kitten zerg is anything less than 50 for T2 while 80 for T1

Sup Fuzzion, Good to see ya again.

If you mean Lee, he split off from NS back in DB and as I understand it co-leads a guild [EE] that recently transferred to BG.

As for the zerg lines, I’m curious as to how Rooster and others would feel about the numbers listed above.

I think those numbers are quite accurate, i’m not actually against zergs i don’t mind them. While i do prefer smaller scale fights i’m not anti zerg, where my problem lies is with guilds transferring to t1 clearly knowing that competition will be thin with leagues coming out.

Rooster, what does SoS really want? Do they want to be number 6 in the gold league or do they want to be kings in the silver league? Just a general consensus of what SoS feels will suffice.

We were getting little to no fights every week on DB. The place that has the most consistent fights during NA prime is JQ, so we came here and farm lots of loot bags now instead of pveing in DB.

Santa.4753:

We were getting little to no fights every week on DB. The place that has the most consistent fights during NA prime is JQ, so we came here and farm lots of loot bags now instead of pveing in DB.

Wait for a Jq vs Sor vs BG fight with all the new transfers. You will be getting sooo many lootbags you need 3 tonne truck just to keep up