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I think there should be a thread…. Even if it will be an emtpy one :D
Funny and equal Reset. Hope for good fights this week-

lolololololol

Good Luck AM,
yes that was sarcasm xD

GO GO ARROW CART

inb4 fastest moderated thread.

Blob, more blob, awesome blob! <-this match in a nutshell so far

All i have to say is…

lol

we are supporting the tier! Could you do it permanent please ?:D

genowefapigwa.5769:

we are supporting the tier! Could you do it permanent please ?:D

How awesome would that be!
And spectator mode for this tier too!

ANet, on behalf of the EU ladder, please lock this tier for eternity.

Funny seeing how Baruch evolved from most zergy server ever to tightly coordinated group of amazing megaskillers, all it needs is a few devoted forum warriors from beloved monotag-zergers to spit their nonsense everywhere…

Press more 1 please!!!

Hua!

Please Please Please ANET keep Elona, Riverside and Abbablob together. They love to play for points- keep them together please! Although for the few guilds on RS atleast (I hope you can get the action you want from their blobs).

Anet, and one 4 ways with kodash? make other map y the epic elona vs abaddon vs riverside vs kodash…. and throw away the key of the server, to the sea, merchants without arrow carts, would end in a day.

FS i wanted elona and BB this week now we stuck with epic fail. GG random fail roll.

You are welcome to join Riverside to fight Elona with us for one week

I see lot’s of familiar faces in this thread so I couldn’t resist as well lol! I’m all of this match-up to become permanent as well! Nothing against you Elona guys, sorry!

I think the most of you cant read the german thread of the match-up. Therfore a shortcut of the spirit there:

The most are happy for the action this reset as they have now opponents which dont run away.

Nobody can now serve arguments like different culture, unemployment rate or eating dinner with mom in the night. like :P

I enjoyed the reset evening. My respect to both other german servers, lots of fun.

Absynthe.4093:

I think there should be a thread…. Even if it will be an emtpy one

I think you just created the number one thread for all WvW haters out there to pour their disdain. At least the discussion in the German forum has remained civil so far. (And I really, really hope it stays that way.)

About to the (unexpected) match-up: After having faced rather weak servers for the past two weeks, this week will be a tough one. However it will end, I am sure this will be a fun week. The past sieges against AM had been the most intense and exciting ones in months. And I can’t even remember anymore when we met Club Elona back in November, so I am curious to see your T1 mojo.

~MRA

I’m pretty sure all three servers will actually enjoy this matchup. Whatever they say, it can’t be fun just rolling over guild groups of 10 all day long, so now they have some challenge

I see only “mimimi this server only blobbing!”

So i think, I need not a blobb, I defeat the most of this forum allone :>

Everyone is blobbing!

All Eu, FR, DE, SP Server!

I’m sure that RS-AM will have lot of fun, it’s the game that they want, i wish for that they get match together again because what is better than competition they play game for points and they should play aganist people that play in the same way.
Good luck.
@Dawson go troll somewhere else nobody talked about blob here so stop now.
Good luck to DTK,DW,IF from RS and good luck to DP and the million little guild of AM

Whow a lot of international Attention for out little local-derby

@ Dayra, yep we are all intrigued to see how each of your servers find each other. On that note; this thread is probably the most tenuous one right now :P

/popcorn

It’s not the match-thread , it’s only the international press-lounge for the match.
The thread is of course:
https://forum-de.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Elona-vs-Flussufer-vs-Abaddon

Popcorn only for german-speaking

And the winner are: All Servers who’re not playing against you

Raniri.6178:

And the winner are: All Servers who’re not playing against you

Yeah, you successfully hide behind the random-roll again, a pitty.
Still no opportunity to show SFR that they are only a little bit remaining “snow of yesterday”.

Its funny though, no flame on the German Matchup Thread and we all have fun – but in the International Thread PPL from INT Servers jump in like “have fun Blobbing and playing for points only”.
But actually its the Opposite.
AM and Elona rarely run away, PS AG BB and Gandara Players tend to run away far more often and Ive gotten the last 14 hours more smallscale (less than 30) as well as Big Scale Open Field fights as Ive gotten the past 2 Weeks vs PS and AG. In between theres defending and capping Keeps too ofc.

I surely would love it if this Matchup would stay like that for a while, at least AM and Elona dont run away so often as other international Servers do.

People usually tend to run if they are outnumbered 5:1 , i hope all servers have fun playing their game , ooooooonly points and more points

Amelia Knox.9362:

@Dawson go troll somewhere else nobody talked about blob here so stop now.
Good luck to DTK,DW,IF from RS and good luck to DP and the million little guild of AM

You think this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCNrK-n68CM?

It´s only a joke :P

street.2176:

AM and Elona rarely run away, PS AG BB and Gandara Players tend to run away far more often and Ive gotten the last 14 hours more smallscale (less than 30) as well as Big Scale Open Field fights as Ive gotten the past 2 Weeks vs PS and AG. In between theres defending and capping Keeps too ofc.

PS ? You made my day. As we wrote some time ago. Riverside was mobs with AC’s It’s hard to run away if you cannot and are not going to fight

Outnumbered 5:1? YOU made MY day.

Mobs with AC yeah right, and even if we build AC so what? We got the supplies, we got the Blueprints and if its a good Idea at a particular Situation (like you outnumbering us 5:1 and still losing) why not use it?

If YOU lose too many fights, then YOU should probably think about the way you play.
And now dont tell me we lost most of them, if itd be like that our AC’s wouldnt bother you since you got your lootbags anyways, which doesnt seem to be the case since you come even here in a Thread which isnt your Matchup to cry.

Sadly we will probably have to play against other INT Servers next week again like Pikencry, Aurora Cryer or Baruch Whiners.

Loool all this blaming about other servers that have a different strategy.
It shows your respect to others. They’re bad cause they don’t play like you…

Enjoy the fight you’ve been wondering.

seems like this week i cannot dwell my basement :-/

street.2176:

AM and Elona rarely run away, PS AG BB and Gandara Players tend to run away far more often and Ive gotten the last 14 hours more smallscale (less than 30) as well as Big Scale Open Field fights as Ive gotten the past 2 Weeks vs PS and AG. In between theres defending and capping Keeps too ofc.

Run away? No thanks, it’s faster to kill germans…

http://es-es.twitch.tv/xdef/b/416452885

I could link to you to lot’s of minutes on this stream, but i think that you will get what i mean just seeing minute 1:14:00

siN against ER blob….

And I agree with people up there.. Anet block this tier and let them play together for ever…

Street i didnt lose many fight when ur very funny pugs didnt have their AC’s or walls to hide. Im sure that find a guild from other server and build 1 AC in open field is the best way to fight when you are worst. Srry :’’(
GL to GD best guild in this match.

Rhx.9354:

GL to GD best guild in this match.

I’m sure GD will enjoy this matchup, they’re strong guild and they have lots of people so i think they’ll be able to kill almost every blob they fight against… (My doubt is if you will be able to fight any blob without a Wall in the middle or AC there…).

So ya… i just want to say.. GL on this tier GD…

It’s funny how 95% of the posts here are not made by AM, RS or ER :P

@street there is no cry here, read every post before your and quote the crying, you saying things that are not happening, stop lying. BAD TROLL 0/10
We say that RS play for points because that what they told us in months of playing aganist them, they claim superior tactic and strategy, we claimed they had more numbers, only ANET knows the truth.
For Am, every server that play aganist them, say that they are blobbing, should we be telling a lie and say that 80 people on one point is not a blob?
That phrase doesn’t mean that other server don’t blob, maybe only maybe other server blob much less so their enemy doesn’t say things like you have 60-70-100-200 people with you.
I think we have sufficient evidence that AM likes running in big groups and RS likes playing for points.
Read it again, there is no negative in my message. if we want to argue that blobbing is bad that’s an other thing and an other discussion.
If you take blobbing as an offense maybe you think that blobbing is bad too.

People running away, Many of us INT player posted streams, video and all sort of proof, some group on RS and AM they run away, not all of them but sometimes happens, probably on other server you see the same things, post proof and everybody will fine and not take it has a flame.

Tip: Drop the Prejudice

We gave respect to every guild that runned alone, even if we get constan portrait like everybody is crying were there is none. If you read most of the anwser is always we claim that you have more numbers and sometimes post proof and you anwser " CRY CRY CRY" , who is the troll who is the one that start the fire, think before posting.

All of you are telling us to change the way we play and how we like to play.
That is, imho, crying.
We wont change our strategy because we have fun playing like that, as well as you wont change yours. So stop telling us the way we play sucks, accept it and if you cant then at least dont run to the forums and cry there about it.
Because thats exactly what you are doing.
“Riverblob/Blobaddon run away, build AC every fight and stay in their keeps”.
Soooo what? Its succesful, we get lots of lootbags as well as points and we dont run away if we got a chance. I advice everyone who thinks we are outnumbering some of them 5:1 to count the enemy Players, often we are around the same (like in a TUP Video where we were even less but in the AG-DL-RS Thread we were 5 times more than them…). A Red Wall tends to look like more players than a green Wall.

Ive seen too many “….. vs. 80+ Riverblob” Videos with only around 30-40 RS Players to take insults about outnumbering anyone 5:1 serious.

Also more numbers isnt an accusation. WvW is like that, sometimes youve more numbers, sometimes the enemy has. So what? Shall we from now on leave wvw when we see the enemy has less players? “Look they only have around 20 players, guys 23 of us have to logg off right now”
Yeah, right.

Every Community should play W3 the Way they want. I dont think AM / RS / ER even care a bit about foreign communitys try to tell them how to play the Game.

majos.8503:

street.2176:

AM and Elona rarely run away, PS AG BB and Gandara Players tend to run away far more often and Ive gotten the last 14 hours more smallscale (less than 30) as well as Big Scale Open Field fights as Ive gotten the past 2 Weeks vs PS and AG. In between theres defending and capping Keeps too ofc.

Run away? No thanks, it’s faster to kill germans…

http://es-es.twitch.tv/xdef/b/416452885

-.-

In the next Matchup with baruch, you give me your name, we write and fight at 1vs1 ok? And sorry, the most from your server is not other.

We asked you to change long time, we have no hope for that.
We know that you want to play with big group, but here nobody is crying, that imho is useless, saying that you have more numbers has no correlation to crying, that’s why i think is flame and you should stop doing that if you want have a discussion, like forum need to be.
I’m not saying that INT server don’t have troll or flame starter, of course if anyone is claiming 1:5 numbers is probably lying, usually is more like 1:1,5 to 1:2, on my group of people we run 10-15 most of the times when we face the big AM group usually we face that kitten easy.
On Rs usually max i see 50, some times i saw the group of 80 the is more like 2 group of 40 near, on that Rs is much better than AM.
AM the group of 60-70 is very easy to see.

Of course we are not asking you too log people off if we have less but don’t claim SUPERIOR STRAGETY or tactics and don’t get offended when we’re saying that you had more numbers, that’s the focal point, from my prospective many times i see RS post where it seems that RS is Best server ever and they win because they play like a server when at the end is all about coverage and we all know it.

I have no problem with Rs there is good guild there, sometimes they group are too big for us but hey we do what we can.
Am on other end just Lag us to death like we enter a fight and i can’t use anything, we got rolled because they have 2-3 times the numbers of us and we can’t use any of our combat tactics because of skill lag and graphical lag.

At end i think that Ac and Lag breaks the game on a combat level and became only who build the first Ac and who lags a bit less, many of us don’t want that game and already left it for something else.

If all you care is lootbags and points, fight aganist us or npc it should be the same for you, this is not PVP.

I never said anything about superior tactics, I only said we build AC when its adviceable.
Problem is, we also get stomped on open field fights from Blobs and Skillag, we also meet towers and keeps with AC armys in them and we also see ppl running away.
But the only Servers that are accused of running, blobbing, and building ACs are RS and AM.
PS/AG (probably other INT Servers too) building 8 AC in a Tower? No problem.
RS/AM (probably other German Servers too) building 3 AC in a Tower? Germans camping in their keeps and building lots of ACs.

PS/AG/Int Server defending their Keep with Siege Weapons and winning? Forum posts: We bashed the German Blob out, thanks for the lootbags.
RS/AM/Ger Server defending their Keep with Siege Weapons and winning? Forum posts: The Germans only camp in their keeps even though they outnumber us 5:1 and could have killed us any time if they just went out instead of sitting in their ACs.

Thats whats getting on my (and probably the others) nerves. If you do it, its ok. If we do it, then thats the only thing we do and we suck.
Videos showing 40 AG defeating 35 RS (TUP Video from the other Thread) = AG defeating the German 80 Player Blob even though AG was outnumbered 5:1.

Its ridiculous.

street.2176:

I never said anything about superior tactics, I only said we build AC when its adviceable.
Problem is, we also get stomped on open field fights from Blobs and Skillag, we also meet towers and keeps with AC armys in them and we also see ppl running away.
But the only Servers that are accused of running, blobbing, and building ACs are RS and AM.
PS/AG (probably other INT Servers too) building 8 AC in a Tower? No problem.
RS/AM (probably other German Servers too) building 3 AC in a Tower? Germans camping in their keeps and building lots of ACs.

PS/AG/Int Server defending their Keep with Siege Weapons and winning? Forum posts: We bashed the German Blob out, thanks for the lootbags.
RS/AM/Ger Server defending their Keep with Siege Weapons and winning? Forum posts: The Germans only camp in their keeps even though they outnumber us 5:1 and could have killed us any time if they just went out instead of sitting in their ACs.

Thats whats getting on my (and probably the others) nerves. If you do it, its ok. If we do it, then thats the only thing we do and we suck.
Videos showing 40 AG defeating 35 RS (TUP Video from the other Thread) = AG defeating the German 80 Player Blob even though AG was outnumbered 5:1.

Its ridiculous.

I don’t think you can understand the viewpoint of the opponent servers unless you join them against your own. Maybe if you play against Vizunah for 6 weeks straight, you gonna understand what it’s like for AG to play against you.
This game’s limits are apparent to everyone with enough brains to think about them.

So, where is my promised spectator mode for WvWvW?

@street you didn’t say anything about superior tatics, in some thread ago about a matchup aganist RS, many of Rs clamied that, sorry the message was suppose to be more about the all the discussion not only you.
on Ag i can tell you with 100% certain that most REGULAR group the biggeest one is Kiss than Tup then Rddt and Dawn, Kiss can go up to 40 even, when you see more are the pugs.
Tup runs 25-30.
rddt 20-30
Dawn 10-20

AG pugs are completly Useless and i mean i have commander up, then go where they want, follow single stragle, and get wipe, and rage at the commander, Pug logic.
i’m sure the AG blobs sometimes, but we don’t have any regular groups that want to blob or like to run with over 30, this is big difference, when from Am someone was saying that they had 120 in TS, 100 in map and the rest in queue, how we should take that? Great i will just start fighting and then see nothing because i lag and oh they are so Pro like we can’t take that in a good way, good for them they have more people ready to cooperate and they more people in general. Trust me in the last month i fought 95% of time getting other number by a lot, AG has a server is getting a bit tired.
You can see why we might ask to split a bit more, not stop playing just split, many of RS said that splitting is better, i remember the first time that i fought AM, someone said that blobbing was a problem for them and i tryed to help when i could give them tips.

Now the important thing is not starting Flame war because are useless, when you say Server cry, server cry, server cry, that start a flame, if you get call out because of facts like AM runs with very big groups and Rs in some occassion too, that’s the result of the flame.

From my point of view, i go out, i play wvw we run with 10-20 we face bigger group all day long, i go on the forum and i see a flame war starting, what we should do, say good, your skill was good, we enjoy the fights or maybe saying we saw a group of 50 and then an other of 80.
Like if you were in my position you will do the same thing, we understand your point of view but you can’t understand ours.

Don’t go around calling server cry, because is useless and just start a flame war, to INT people call the server with the right name, or samething that they like, keep the flame a minium, retal will kill you.

Starting a new conversation, you think that siege adds something valuable to the combat experience? I don’t think so, i hate the Ac buff and Tup said many times this game will 100% better without door and no siege.

Amelia Knox.9362:

Starting a new conversation, you think that siege adds something valuable to the combat experience? I don’t think so, i hate the Ac buff and Tup said many times this game will 100% better without door and no siege.

This IS the game, if you don’t like it you are in the wrong game

@Dayra i’m asking something you want to anwser, anwser if not leave
The current state of the game doesn’t mean that the game is perfect or it can’t be improved.

@Amelia Knox: Why should I leave our match thread if someone from outside the match asks match irrelevant questions?

And yes, ACs – as they are now – are needed. They give well prepared defenders a chance to defend the walls and doors against stupid brute-force attacks, i.e. against attackers that only use their mass, but not their brain.

Siege are one of the most important things in wvw.
With Siege you can defeat/defend a way larger force than your own, or could you defend a Tower without Siege and doors in a 10v50 Situation?

Without Siege and doors itd be a Karmatrain and only 1 Commander on every Map, running around in circles recapping stuff.

What TUP (and many other smallscale Guilds/Groups) want is GvG, but wvw aint gvg.
So itd be a nice idea if you complain to Anet for not implenting a GvG Modi instead of complaining that you meet much bigger forces in WvW than your own.

@Dayra, i meant you leave the question, you’re not helping the discussion so your post just flame morem the question is relevent, i wanted to know how my enemy think about because i want to know better they point of view better.

@street i understand your point, of course i don’t want to completely remove siege, i just think that now is too much prevelant, if groups of people instant build AC on open field i think we have problem, inside keep is fine, there is treb for that, is extremly boring but this is the game, AC on open field i think is too much.

Fighting outmanned siege all you want, if you run with a group of 50 or more, and build AC on open field, i think the game is broke, the meta is not healty it will drive the game in bad spot and people will leave.
Ty for the anwser street