Guild Wars 2

Really funny FR complaining about blob. I think RoS laughed a bit about that.
I mean really, yes you start running arround with groups of a size of 20. Then you get whiped by 20. You merge with the next group of 20. Then you get whiped by the same 20. Guess what happens now? Ofcourse the next 20 appear and we face us outnumbered 3:1 so we have to call for reinforcements. Our zerg may appear big at that time but it is the combined force of 2 borderlands and you have 60 people on both borderlands. This is why you allways were in the lead after our prime time, we loose all the stuff we take because we dont have people left to protect them.

I hope this did not hurt your honor. The numbers i wrote may not be 100% accurate.

Overall this match-up was even and funny, we had a few nice fights.
Sadly we also saw some things we which we would not have seen. Some people may know what i mean.

ich.7086:

Yeah time to debat about who blob more !!!
[Who has more skill?]
I was not saying that FR doesn’t blob (i even tell u this FR blo, happy ?) but that i’m sad RoS began blobbing (because in the last matchup u didn’t do that and that was great and we are about the same u can’t blame us for “forcing u to blob”). I admit that we sometimes run at 60+ -especially on EB or FR BL- but go on RoS or BT BL and we have mostly (except events) like 40+ which can be manageable but your super awesome godly 30+ guild raid.

And about skill wait the blob defending hills on FR BL at 2 a.m at Tuesday ? wiped like 8 times against us 2 times and numbers were pretty balanced. just because on double impact the second group was too late.

For running away, i’m gonna say matter of perspective : i’ve seen no fights (i’m a roamer) where FR ran away nor RoS and sometimes I read commanders telling to say out of combat to wp and defend <insert objective name here>. Like u most of the time we only have one zerg + about 10 peoples at each map doing daily/ roaming/ crafting (speaking at off peak time here).

And please stop speaking about 0-4 a.m FR presence where u had actually some guys to defend when between 4-8 a.m ,your USA guild prime time, we had near to nobody. Look at this http://gw2tracker.net/wvw/stats/live Ruins of Surmia – all borders – Averaged by time of day – 1st graph and then try to tell me nightcapping doesn’t advantage u.
[/Who has more skill?]

If u look at my former post u should notice “very good job” and it’s really what i’m thinking since we have superior numbers -but not this superior- the fact you are staying close is a show of skill / dedication (/ nightcapping admit it too) / good tactics & strategy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4WlVCN2izEc

30 Vs your border blob gg

@Agrios
I’m a roamer, the fact u are wiping blob i’m nearly never in doesn’t hurt my honor but thx for caring about.

The real complaint is why going for 60+ when 30+ works greatly against us look vid from cradorell. I mean if you have only one 60+ zerg why not split it into 2 30+ zerg able to wipe our 60+ zerg (it’s more 40+,60+ is for HM or EB) and this way protecting 2 BL.

But i agree that the ultimate tactics “moar numbers” is pretty common on FR.
Can you go on with things you would not have seen ? Pretty interested having all feedback about our server to improve.

@Cradorell
Very good vid (btw dislike the white&black effect but keep sharing) it shows how great things (coordinations/tactics/group optimization) u can do only at 30+ (and we lack of) so it don’t see the point going for 60+.

Quoting my post wasn’t necessary because more points that just skill is involved (and if u look closely i said u have skill)

In fact i prefer u stay at 30+ so our people inside blob + cdts can see the lack of skill (tbh most of them follow tag and spam 1 which isn’t skill) and trying to improve because it’s pretty like Agrios (always calling reinforce/not getting better).

Try looking for [Auld] (composed mainly of [SoW]& [PDR]) or [Haaa] they are doing pretty good job at 10+, you might love fights against them.

nice matchup sadly we cant win, i know we can… next time better…

gl next week to all FR ac junkies xD

some [FRS] stuff from this week…

@ ich

non of that guild you called i have seen or seen then in the forum, let them come for some guild vs guild next time

Steelo.4597:

not enough forum warrioring on our matchup (them germans too nice…), we miss you guys :-D

fab.3298:

MS are a great server, nice and respectful too.

You should learn from them, that would be something.
Everyone likes a boring matchup thread full with respectful people who never create drama, right?

But if you do like some drama we could create it here. I mean RoS always create drama, right? We also taught you how to complain, according to Terkov at least.

Btw Steelo we have an alliance against you, just saying.

@ ich
do you see the difference in 30 riot/vcy and 30 randoms who are not on teamspeak?
Since you say you only roam in dont think you know it so i put it in easy words. A guild group can easily fight superior numbers because they use a teamsetup and can coordinate their tactics over teamspeak.
At some point in the evening our guilds stop raiding. Some stay online and play further. But our numbers seems to drop faster then yours after the prime time. At that time a small guild of us is not able to hold out alone anymore and this is the time where we call for help from other borders.
A group that just follows a commander tag is unorganised in a zerg fight because nobody is in teamspeak and a commander cant write down all instructions during a fight.

http://www.twitch.tv/hammernaut always outnumbered never outgunned…or something ^^

@The Umpire
They usually stick on jol forums

@Agrios
I mostly do roam but i take part in zerg sometimes so i can tell the difference.

From what i see, RoS is more guild-based than FR which is heavily pug-based, i mean in example having riot + pug on one hostile bl / vcy + pug on an another / main pug at home / dex at eb give of a better map control in compare of having riot+vcy zerg and dex+pug zerg since u are everywhere and u either wipe/slow us giving time to a less stressed group to join u if necessary (i just put random guild tag i don’t know if numbers are viable).

I have had the displeasure to withness the sadest thing I have seen in my life. We were 23 people against a FR zerg of atleast 50+ (most likely 60+ but let’s not exaggerate). And they ran away from us, we thought they wanted a hight advantage to kill us. Because they were running up the hill. So we stacked up, buffed and prepared to run into them. Looked like a nice promising fight. But suddenly they started to dissapear, they were PORTING!

Did this happen ones? No! It happened all day and night. Running and porting, not even trying to fight. Later in the night we were 14! And a 50+ FR zerg left our keep in EB as soon as they saw us, ran out and tried to port, lucky we had some guardians putting them in combat and we killed a good share of them. But really, almost 5 times our size and running + porting?

But we actually kinda expected this, true mentallity of a french server. No offense, but every french server uses this tactic and no other server. Don’t know why. Vizunah are the master of porting out, you can’t even imagine how fast they do it.

It’s been a good matchup, just a bit sad about the amount cheating going on. (I can back this up with videos, screenshots… but I wont)

At the nightcapping thing, WvW is a 24/7 game.. during daytime/primetime we are often “Outnumbered”, we have a good night coverage that makes up for some of that, in the end I believe we would have won if Blacktide wasn’t part of this matchup because you have more coverage, you couldn’t touch our keeps pretty much.. we just didn’t have the numbers to cover every map so you had higher ticks during the day.

It’s been our story for a lot of matchups so far, we’re always up against a server that severely outnumbers us and one with a low WvW population, but that’s just my theory about this.

ich.7086:

Seems some were getting tired with this calm matchup thread…

Due to computer overheat (why so rude summer ?) i can’t play but as far i can see RoS has been nightcapping us – USA influx i heard- but except that the only real complaint i can do is about guild raid. The last matchup we had, i used to meet so many 20+ guild raids and now it’s like 60+ zerg composed of former guild raids, i mean why ? u did great last time and managed to beat us in the closest/funniest matchup ever (and it was refreshing) and now it’s like an another server, pretty disappointed. Apart that you are doing a very good job.

To BT, sorry about RNG, sad it seems some of u gave up but keep fighting.

….YOU are disappointed? Your server hasn’t done anything else than blob all week (not once have I seen a FR group consisting of less than 40 people) and even when you met the 25-30 people from RiOT on the battlefield, you ran away. The video Crad posted was actually one of those very rare occasions when FR decided to stop chickening out for some reason and finally fight us.

Also, you can’t blame our pugs for blobbing up, considering the numbers your server puts up in every borderland 24/7. But at least RoS aren’t as pathetic to run away from a fight with relatively even numbers.

EDIT: and I agree fully with MiLkZz about the french mentality. Even Arborstone people like to run away to the closest tower and get on their 9000 ACs in there, even when they outman the enemy. Boring.

Calm down I don’t represent my server, read my posts i’m mainly a roamer, i have no commander tag, my guild has 2 members, personal attack is meaningless.

I agree that FR blob but RoS goes from spread raid guild to one multimap blob which is from my pov a regression – i just want to point it out. About pug I can’t blame for blobbing just notice that FR is full of pug we have little to no raid guild and it’s going to start with some guilds coming from JS. And we have group of 10/20just open your eyes ([Haaa]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uCAGYS4_THE [Auld] https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3LsC-_CVhEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F2cGUfCOX3E).

We do not have blob h24 on BL it’s just a multimap blob, like u with only about 10 permanents peoples scouting / roaming / doing daily / trying to take tower or keep …

During my few zerg times in this matchup i didn’t see FR running away but it’s just a personal experience.

ich.7086:

During my few zerg times in this matchup i didn’t see FR running away but it’s just a personal experience.

http://www.twitch.tv/hammernaut/c/2678801 there u go xd

ich.7086:

Calm down I don’t represent my server, read my posts i’m mainly a roamer, i have no commander tag, my guild has 2 members, personal attack is meaningless.

I agree that FR blob but RoS goes from spread raid guild to one multimap blob which is from my pov a regression – i just want to point it out. About pug I can’t blame for blobbing just notice that FR is full of pug we have little to no raid guild and it’s going to start with some guilds coming from JS. And we have group of 10/20just open your eyes ([Haaa]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uCAGYS4_THE [Auld] https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3LsC-_CVhEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F2cGUfCOX3E).

We do not have blob h24 on BL it’s just a multimap blob, like u with only about 10 permanents peoples scouting / roaming / doing daily / trying to take tower or keep …

During my few zerg times in this matchup i didn’t see FR running away but it’s just a personal experience.

Communicate your pov to your own server first before judging others. If FR brings 70 people in a single blob into a borderland, well what do you expect RoS will do? Watch your mindless puggies steamroll everyone with sheer numbers spamming skill 1? It’s already hard enough playing against large groups due to skill lag.

@Crazeh
Pretty sad. I have found the commander who did this. He said that at mendon he had to defend SM attacked by BT and at LLW he was excepting large forces inside the keep to submerge from outer north him even if in our video u can see there is only 9 ppl inside. Not to excuse what he did.

@Liquid Storm
Already did this, but i’m only a pug roamer with little to no influence about strategy and tactics.

As reset is coming, i wish u all RNG loves for next matchup hf & gl.

ich.7086:

@Crazeh
Pretty sad. I have found the commander who did this. He said that at mendon he had to defend SM attacked by BT and at LLW he was excepting large forces inside the keep to submerge from outer north him even if in our video u can see there is only 9 ppl inside. Not to excuse what he did.

I’m sorry, but this happened more than once to be just a coincidence (This one been the worst). I was leading that night and it happened 2-3 times. I’ve never seen another server do that since VZ. Really spoiled the fun last night.