Guild Wars 2

awesome matchup… close matchup… love this matchup….

1 thing i not like, FR guys with 10 superior ac’s on every gate, they are so bad xD running away from fights and teleport, if you need to win on that way, i think thats nothing to be proud of, i lost a lot respect for the french servers, they are all the same only playing siege wars….

I can tell you’re good with highlighting things out by bolding it but perhaps reading comprehension is not your strong suite.

Saying that I got bored getting rolled over by RiOT is by no means the same as me complaining about their numbers. It is just me saying, hey we getting rofl stomped and it isn’t super fun so I better amp the numbers too with a tag to make something happen.

WvWvW as a point game is firstly and mostly coverage dependant.

As an open field battle game, organised guild groups are strongest. However, if you put two guilds with same level of skill on the field it becomes somewhat a numbers game (not counting in siege or hitting the other group in the back).

Should one of the teams have enough people over the other even a perfect flank will not make you win the fight. The only way to measure the combat “skill” of a guild group is through the unofficial GvG format, since you remove the siege, positional play, buffs gained by killing things and the number difference. This is also why Kalevala will be aiming to start GvGing at the end of this month.

GvG format has very little to do with WvWvW though. A good commander in a fight can still suck big time in decision making on what to hit and when to hit in the field and vice versa. For higher tiers where there are queues always on maps these GvGs with their spectators can actually hurt the ‘real’ WvWvW by not allowing the actual WvWvWers on the map. (1 year and a game called guild wars, no guild vs. guild, lol)

Any number of people is fine at any given time and place as long as it doesn’t create skill lag on the map. When skill lag is present the game loses all meaning. FSP bl yesterday was lag free, so all good.

Saying sorry to blobbing VcY with EB crew does NOT contradict the earlier statement whatsoever,nor does it make me a hypocrite because I was not complaining about RiOT numbers. I merely stated a fact that we couldn’t win a fight straight up with our numbers. Very much so as VcY could not win a fight in EB against the blob.

Neither of the situations were unfair as long as WvWvW as a whole is concerned. Commanders should not engage fights they can’t win. Unless you like suiciding a bit with a good smush, like most guilds in the game do. Running away is a taboo, even though sometimes it’s absolutely the smartest thing to do.

Same for using game mechanics such as siege, that are ment to bring tactics and timing in the game. Most guild groups forget that they’re on a WvWvW field and q.q about ACs in towers and keeps. They try to implement GvG rules such as no interrupting fights on the whole playing field.

So as an end note if you see Kalevala people on the field I beg you to gank us with everything you have because that’s the right thing to do. Death is part of the game and that if anything teaches you to stop making stupid things.

PS. RiOT has a good WvWvW commander. Good usage of supplies, siege placement and timings.

Hi Qla

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Wanze.8410:

Cradorell.3941:

We still havent met PunK yet, Kale were a challenge tonight.

Because we sent them back to spawn quite quick today.

Please be so kind to mention that you did outnumber us when you “send us back to spawn quite quick”. I think we deserve as much!

As for RiOT: I hope we do meet up some time this week!

Qla.1347:

Lots of Words

We have beaten the blob more than we’ve lost against it, especially the last few weeks, but mostly it’s pretty close primarily due a combination of the downed mechanic and/or some random person appearing from our side who is wearing zerker gear and rallys’ 30 people in one go…. =/

Fun though and we’ll continue to plough head first to ours or yours destruction

Some fights for RiOT this week

Velocity Corporation would like to thank the FSP community for showing up at Bay this evening on FR BL. It was fun fighting your collective guilds that had assembled in that enclosed space.

We tried fighting you individually and had great success and fun. It is a shame that it came down to what it did with your collective push but as you said this is WvWvW right?

Had a great /laugh xD

Why would we even want to take your VcY group on as singles since Kale was biggest group on that map and we were 25 strong. You do the math. Guess you enjoy rolling everything free?

I was actually impressed seeing VcY on the battlefield.
You seem structured, well balanced and well organized.

Your reactions and general attitude on this thread however, tell a different story.

Its not respectable to outman/outmatch a group, roflstomp them and then come and laugh about it in the match-up thread. Also, when you use this tactic yourself, others will eventually use it against you. When they do, dont forget you do the exact same before you come and Q.Q. about it on the forum.

Please keep this in mind…

Sird.4536:

We tried fighting you individually and had great success and fun. It is a shame that it came down to what it did with your collective push but as you said this is WvWvW right?

There is a difference between us guilds when we are fighting individually. We are 20-25 at max and you are 35-40.

You shouldn’t even talk about grouping up. Not only did you run that many but you also grouped up together with WAR and pugs at a point.

The only thing you are allowed to complain about is the skill lag and FPS drop you are causing.

Also the /laughing was totally uncalled for and unrespectful. This is the kind of things you see from pugs and other kittens.

Ok i made a role play post like we at VcY normally do but seems no one got it. I even put a smiley face on it.

VcY never complain about blobs, never have done. We enjoy the challenge of trying to take numbers higher then us. I agree rolling through enemies when we outnumber is not fun. That is why we run past smaller groups if we don’t see the point in fighting them.

As for grouping with WAR and pugs. We did not say ‘Hey join us we need help’. They were defending bay as well and saw us and tagged along.

As for our conduct on this forum, sure Bloin did break our only rule in VcY but apart from him who from VcY has said anything negative? Songs post explained how to get the extra range on AC with the window mode thing and Rmyr backed that up and my earlier post was about how VcY was looking forward to fighting our very first server.

And for future reference we have 31 in TS not 35-40.

Maybe people are confusing RiOT post with ours :/

Hi VcY

Think tonight was the first time I encountered you in WvW this week, though I had heard the stories about “the VcY blob” for the past few days. It is true that your group is bigger than the average guildgroup from FSP (think we run around 20 on average plus the occasional sticky pugs that always seem to be attracted to guildgroups) but I wouldn’t qualify your group as a blob; just wanted that out.

As for todays fights: since fighting you head on with just our group was out of the question due to the difference in numbers (we were running with 23 this night) we did a few joint ops with the FSV guys, which in my opinion resulted in a few nice fights with wipes on both sides.

As far as I know our “combined push” at bay was again FSV and Kale working together (though we had alot of pugs with us in the end because 80% of the map turned green and that’s when they mostly decide to come into the border) But that’s what WvW is all about right? Guilds working together and having each others back when the odds aren’t in your favour. Still not sure what to think about that mass /laugh in Bay though…

In the end you’re definately the group to look out for during this matchup together with the RiOT guys which me met earlier this week. It’s just a shame that we are fighting against you instead of with you (like old times ).

Salute to the both of you, hope we’ll have an enjoyable rest of the week.

DarkRealityNL.1594:

Wanze.8410:

Cradorell.3941:

We still havent met PunK yet, Kale were a challenge tonight.

Because we sent them back to spawn quite quick today.

Please be so kind to mention that you did outnumber us when you “send us back to spawn quite quick”. I think we deserve as much!

As for RiOT: I hope we do meet up some time this week!

My post was a reply to Crad explaining him why he might have had a hard time to find you.
During our raid, we went looking for your guild in order to beat you.

Our guilds have met on a number of occasions in the last couple of days and everybody who was in those fights, knows the outcome.

Personally, I think its pretty pointless to argue numbers of open field battles on the forums because in those fights, its hard to determine the exact number of the opposition due to tight stacking, pets, clones, stealth or other people entering the fight. So I try to avoid that.

Being outnumbered is the prime excuse/explaination for losing a fight, I think that applies to all servers, guilds or groups.

My post was not meant disrespectful, maybe with a bit of cheek.
If you took offense on that, I hereby apologize.

If you are looking for a balanced fight, that is what GvG is for.
To my best knowledge, your guild has an invite for that pending.

I will go now and scrub the basement floor of our headquarters in my zerker gear for breaking our Corporation CoC for posting on the forums.

Allright, i misunderstood you both!
I take back my previous posts.

Good luck for the rest of the reset!

Eww AoA at South camp FSP border.. you outnumbered me 1 to 5, I fight straightforward with little stealthing (cloack & dagger my only source of stealth which you can block,stun,dodge,daze,blind,protection, and the list goes on and on and on..)

Yet you had to kitten me over with anti-stealth trap, that is pure evil. I think it was your thief as well who put it down… lol, Gw2 and it’s mechanics. ;D

I also didn’t notice you putting it down.. I thought you were ressing the one dude I killed or something.

Ps. This is a complaint post!! It’s the first freaking group smaller than 10 people I find this week, I was enjoyin the fight up until that anti stealth trap and 222 kitten by your thief. ;p

Sird.4536:

..bla..
Had a great /laugh xD

He who laughs last…
:)

Kaleygh.1524:

Sird.4536:

..bla..
Had a great /laugh xD

He who laughs last…
:)

Collects lootbags?

FYI don’t worry about the Arrow Carts post I made earlier, Arenanet made sure it was dealt with…..by giving me an infraction. Way to deal with the issue

pcpsong.3850:

Kaleygh.1524:

Sird.4536:

..bla..
Had a great /laugh xD

He who laughs last…
:)

Collects lootbags?

FYI don’t worry about the Arrow Carts post I made earlier, Arenanet made sure it was dealt with…..by giving me an infraction. Way to deal with the issue

Uh, sorry to hear, got a few of those too. Not sure what is up with the mods, but they remind me of the soup kitten from Seinfeld (old tv series). As for the laughs, i dont really mind, it was just unexpected. At the end of the day, we both get our bags and as long as we`re having fun its a win/win. You guys rock and i`m looking for more great fights against you guys <3

WTH you hackers just died because you made us stop moving and we werent imobolised fight by lowlands not cool stop hacking seriously

Before queen update FSP had more points.
What happens when you play in a PvE server:

well i had quite alot of fun for our guild run today mostly in FSP BL. a few nice fights and points capped

Had some very nice fights this week with both FS and FR… thank you for the sport… being dieing to play against FS for some time now seeing how I was once in eMoa.

I only have 2 complaints all week… 1) directed mostly at FR… but also a couple of [lion] people I’ve met too… when you fight me 1v1 or 2v1 or 3v1 or even 5v1… and I down you or have you to within one hit of going down… don’t run away and deprive me of a loot bag… I don’t do it… I am happy to go down and give my opponent some loot for the nice fight… gave lion lots of loot bags this week, but they could’ve done the same a couple of times too.

2) directed at both FS and FR… join me in the water some time… its really nice to go for a swim

All in all, I have really enjoyed this match up… its lived up to my expectations and its going to be a really close finish. Had some really great skirmishes… won some, lost some, had fun.

Nymph of Meliai.6739:

2) directed at both FS and FR… join me in the water some time… its really nice to go for a swim

There is no underwater-combat in this game. I refuse to admit it.

We had some good fights as well this week. Nice matchup. Met some nice roamers while running solo as well. Ofc, I also met people who ran until they outnumbered me 4 to 1 and people who came to crush my 1v1s but that’s WvW. Who cares?

:D

Hats off for FR and RoS, well played scores turned around Sorry that we weren’t much of a competition during the night time after the patch, or even ..merely competitive enough after the release of the patch except for the WvW guilds ofcourse. Awesome fights, was a great Match. Good luck next week.

Sceinna.3561:

Eww AoA at South camp FSP border.. you outnumbered me 1 to 5, I fight straightforward with little stealthing (cloack & dagger my only source of stealth which you can block,stun,dodge,daze,blind,protection, and the list goes on and on and on..)

Yet you had to kitten me over with anti-stealth trap, that is pure evil. I think it was your thief as well who put it down… lol, Gw2 and it’s mechanics. ;D

I also didn’t notice you putting it down.. I thought you were ressing the one dude I killed or something.

Ps. This is a complaint post!! It’s the first freaking group smaller than 10 people I find this week, I was enjoyin the fight up until that anti stealth trap and 222 kitten by your thief. ;p

Sorry for that stealth trap man, but it wasnt AoA that did put it down, it was some other thief that joined us in that fight;)

For the rest, it surely was i nice match up but the pve content ruined it a bit for me personally. Great fights RoS and FR!

Hats off to the very persistent engineer from RoS this morning on FSP borderland. You made the capture of Briar and Heroes camp quite a challenge even though we outnumbered you.

All in all a very nice matchup and congrats to RoS and FR.

Gj Surmia well deserved win. Thanks for having us on RoS and can’t wait to fight you guys in the future.