Guild Wars 2

Placed a box of fun at north camp on GH for you have fun everyone and relax reset is a few hours away

Gratz to GH on the win and cant wait to play FURY GvG really skilled bunch

Velocity corporation are in the process of diversifying. GW2 WvW for some has simply become stale. This isn’t because of the match up but down to the fact that over 8 months there has not been any meaningful changes. At the end of the day you are doing the same thing over and over to no real reward. It also did not help that we kept getting dc yesterday. We had morning raids, afternoon pug commanding and prime time raids for what?
Most of us have branched out to different games. Most of our guys are not interested. There is still a WvW division which will roll out during prime time as VcY are not done with GW2. But like someone said earlier, the bulk of VcY did not show up this week and honestly for a number of weeks.

Anyway have fun next week hopefully no dc this time.

tl;dr version in PS2

Come on guys, it’s not that bad First of all, if you dont enjoy the matchup because of forum fights – dont visit forum. Simple, isnt it? Second thing is exaggerating things. It happens in every matchup and ends with flame. Usually when someone here writes “60”, it means “40”, “20 golems” are really 5 etc. But people tend to say they fight thousands of players when they have much less. For me it’s just an excuse to loss. Personally I’m running most of time with my guild (MM) which was accused of blobing all the time. We had like 60 ppl once – at reset. And we cant and dont want to forbid few out of our guild to not follow us. Usually it’s max 5 friendly players who join us on mumble because their guilds dont focus on wv (or some other reason). But usually we have 15-30 ppl in wv in peak time, quite often we spread on 2-3 maps (we have many commanders and they like to help wherever it’s possible, so each of them gets some of us with them, which ends with splitting our forces). I believe Riot, Fury, Prxm, Nom, Bnf and other bigger guilds are also much bigger in their enemies eyes. Anyway, please stop this blob wars here. in 90% all these numbers are lies and ppl crying about numbers are adding 10-20 players. Same goes to sieges (2136123 superior carts, 213412 balistas, 5000 trebs, over 9000 golems!!!)

Next thing are crashes and lags. Lets clear it – it’s not any players fault. It just happens, nobody knows why. But it made this matchup worse, thats also clear for us all. People are getting angry whenever they crash, quite often they leave wv. 2 days ago I was crashing so often and the only normal map (GH bl) had so big queue that I turned off pc. But yesterday I started avoiding places where I had crashes and I could play on dz and ros bl longer than 2 days ago (I still had crashes, but much less). I have to say that I understand Ros being angry for losing this match, nobody would expect you guys losing so many points so fast. However, I believe you made a mistake. Yesterday GH map was still almost free from crashes (not 100%, but we had much less than on other maps) and Dz brought big numbers (50?60? hard to say since there were 2 or 3 groups) to our bl. If only ros would get more than those ~20 players, I believe at least one our keep would be lost and last night could end with ros on the lead. But from my point of view you lost many random players who denied playing in wv yday and after successful defend of our own bl (we had like 190 pts only around 6-7pm gmt, dont remember when exactly) our side started believing that we can still fight for 1st place, especially when we got ~350 tick. It made many ppl stay for night fights and today we have results. I think that was the crucial moment for us and ros – if we got pushed yday by dz and ros and lost our keeps, we would prolly end few k behind ros today.

Anyway, I enjoyed this matchup a lot. Thanks to the flames on forum our side got many motivated players that wanted to prove that we’re not bad and can fight good. We’re getting more organised groups (I believe we have up to 10 guilds doing runs with ts/mumble), we work better as server and we stopped fighting each other on our own side. Thank you for this RoS.

Dear RoS players, I find many of you skilled, I like fighting you. Your groups are harder to fight than dz, but I think thats because they have groups made of many different guilds and you have bigger squads from one tag. We both (GH and RoS) underestimate each other, but I hope that ppl who are flaming will realise later that pvp and wv is about fighting, not about wins and losses. It’s about working to become better players and better teams/guilds. And it’s about having fun. Remember that before you open this forum to start some flamewar.

Dz&RoS, thanks for this week, I really enjoyed it.

PS. Riot thieves, stop chasing my low lvl eng, I dont like relogging on 80 char to fight and I dont have any chance as 50 lvl (even as 80 it’s still kitten hard), you’re just too good

PS2. TL;DR: Spread the love guys and relax It’s just a game and we’re supposed to have fun Fight in game, not here

I’m sure there’s many people like me in RoS who just couldn’t be arsed to play yesterday because of the crashes. Winning this match wouldn’t change anything for us.

Yeah, the start of the week was cool, enjoyed fighting SOE, PRXM, FURY, and others, even though we have a real problem with our numbers at prime time. The fights get better each week.

The end of the week was kind of pointless, with all the crashes. For the people proud of winning against servers who can’t even enter half their maps… I don’t know what to say.

Thank god Anet are fixing the random crashes by introducing more random, in the matchups… oh wait, no, that’s a terrible idea.

“How will Ruins of Surmia fare against Gandara? Your guess is as good as mine is.”

Have Anet completely lost their marbles?

yroeht.5843:

The end of the week was kind of pointless, with all the crashes. For the people proud of winning against servers who can’t even enter half their maps… I don’t know what to say.

Lol. That would be a great point if we hadn’t also had the same crashes in the same locations!

Tbh though even if things had finished as they were 48 hours ago I’d have been really proud, we’re up against two very strong servers and played hard and kept our spirits up all week.

Massive kudos to both Dzag and RoS – let’s make next week a good one, and I hope you all loot a charged lodestone tonight at reset

Irxallis.7350:

I would like to thank Surmia and Dzagonur a lot, for very good fights. Both those I won, and those I died at. Mostly for those where you taught me something new.

Some notable moments from many:

RoS:

- RiOT:
I managed to have some 1 vs 1, 3 vs 3… basically, many small-scale fights I like a lot.
I spoke with some of you and I hope we will meet again on the battlefield – you guys are really, really good and nice :-). I am learning a lot from fighting you.
/bow

- GoA:
When I see GoA tag, I know the fight will be interesting :-).
That asura mesmer in the Godsword at Saturday…
S/F + Staff mesmer. Attacking a Sw/F + Sc/Sw mesmer and a thief. He could have ran away to Gods at any moment. He decided to stay and fight. AND the fight against him, 2 vs 1, was surprisingly long and hard.
/bow

- FRS:
The ranger, in Hero camp I have had the pleasure to duel. The fight took about 3 minutes and I only won because I got a bit luckier.
/bow

The Legend (by rank, can’t recall anything more – warrior? Guardian?). Firstly, you stopped us when we were trying to get Gods. Then, you stalled 4 of us from taking the tower for a REALLY long time. At 1 vs 4, until some reinforcements came. And many, many more situations. You are a force to reckon with.
/bow

Dzagonur:

- BNF:
I travel in the pack of 3-5. When I see 3-4 of you, I know we will lose the fight (as for now, we have never beaten BNF in equal fight or even at a bit superior numbers), but the fight will be something to look at later and learn. Eventually, I will devise a way to be able to stand against you and give you a good fight :-).
/bow

- Order of Old Tyria (?) and Orb (?) (not 100% sure here, might have mistaken, sorry):
You are very strong players and seems you communicate very well. Moving in small teams, guarding the southern camps, incredible reaction time. Deadly and efficient. Some memorable fights against you.
/bow.

Gracious thanks,
A roaming mesmer (mostly accompanied by a charr thief and / or a sylvari ranger)
from GH.

That is a really nice post…

I just keep laughing that 9/10 times when I log into the forums (provided I am not banned…)… the RoS and GH thread is normally near the top.

Means I have to scroll less to get my daily dose of drama.

Congratz Gunnar’s Hold for the victory, it was well deserved.

Thanks for the great fights this week RoS and Dz, looking forward to next week

Nymph of Meliai.6739:

I just keep laughing that 9/10 times when I log into the forums (provided I am not banned…)… the RoS and GH thread is normally near the top.

Both have communities that enjoy <cough> lively and robust discussion

Screen below shows two zerg groups. Literally 1min difference. Sadly, couldn’t find any GH former blobber group at given time.
You may ask – why do I post this?
After whines about zerging from specific server several times on each of 12 pages I just want to show you that EVERY server zerg. Some more (like T1s), some less (less populated servers). People do that cause simply it’s the most effective. Taking camps in 20-30sec, tower in minutes. Defending mansions in seconds (raiding other server trying to cap their property).
Saying “Nice blob insert server here” won’t change anything. I don’t apperciate zerging at all, but I think we all should get over it for the time, till ANet finds out how to make small scale skirmishes more rewarding (beside a lot of fun).
Shalom.

Lert.6287:

Screen below shows two zerg groups. Literally 1min difference. Sadly, couldn’t find any GH former blobber group at given time.
You may ask – why do I post this?
After whines about zerging from specific server several times on each of 12 pages I just want to show you that EVERY server zerg. Some more (like T1s), some less (less populated servers). People do that cause simply it’s the most effective. Taking camps in 20-30sec, tower in minutes. Defending mansions in seconds (raiding other server trying to cap their property).
Saying “Nice blob insert server here” won’t change anything. I don’t apperciate zerging at all, but I think we all should get over it for the time, till ANet finds out how to make small scale skirmishes more rewarding (beside a lot of fun).
Shalom.

I’ve got some screens of mega GH blobs too this evening….want me to post them later…

Been runnign round for a few hours and all we can find is blobs. Just the way reset goes I suppose.

Cameirus.8407:

Lert.6287:

Screen below shows two zerg groups. Literally 1min difference. Sadly, couldn’t find any GH former blobber group at given time.
You may ask – why do I post this?
After whines about zerging from specific server several times on each of 12 pages I just want to show you that EVERY server zerg. Some more (like T1s), some less (less populated servers). People do that cause simply it’s the most effective. Taking camps in 20-30sec, tower in minutes. Defending mansions in seconds (raiding other server trying to cap their property).
Saying “Nice blob insert server here” won’t change anything. I don’t apperciate zerging at all, but I think we all should get over it for the time, till ANet finds out how to make small scale skirmishes more rewarding (beside a lot of fun).
Shalom.

I’ve got some screens of mega GH blobs too this evening….want me to post them later…

Been runnign round for a few hours and all we can find is blobs. Just the way reset goes I suppose.

Hehe, sure. It’s up to you. Maybe it will cool down guys saying “GH? Zerging? Impossible. We’ve got guild of 800 players and we do is duos/trio max!” (that’s joke).

lets not starting the zerg talks again. Every side does it and it is part of the game.

btw SWAT asura mesmer I though outside hills on Dzag <3

You’re really good

I guess the point is that RoS started the whole ‘blob whining’ thingie and people around will keep pointing it out to you whenever possible for a while. Keep calm and carry on, stop the nonsense.

muslumgurseks.4951:

I dont need to know you GH is just a community of blob and hack we even caught your guys flying in hills and kitten so you better stop whining in here…

“My guys” aren’t me. Somehow when we – [Psy] meet 3 times a week to play together, we avoid zerging same as you avoid education.
Neither GH isn’t me. It’s just server I happen to play on. Nor I consider myself as GH-Patriot. I don’t give a kitten if we’re winning or losing, what is happening on map chat, which huge property is being attacked. All I (we – Psy) care about is fun and even fights (which is basicly the same in this matter).
The point of my previous post wasn’t to point like “Oh, guys, Dzag and RoS are such blobbers. Ima GH da best yo”. All I said (you still can read it, but please, for now do it with understanding) that every server blob (yes, GH – server i play on, does too) because it’s effective and we indivituals can’t do much about it.
So for future, please stop writing that I QQ or whine. I just try to bring some logic to conversation. That’s it. I don’t want to start argument.

Well I’d really like to respond you but already got 2 warnings for pointing out how kittened GH’s actions are so imma stop and will say only this which will be deleted by mods in for like 5mins. Till Anet takes measures against blobing this is how it will go even though we are against it as guild we are being pushed to do so since its not fun to get constantly hit by train! But what are they doing pushing AC buffs and that kinda kittened things to make people wanna leave the game for good. nuff said I dont really care about what GH or any other world does they only get to taste their own medicine as long as we are concorned.

Yes, the game rewards bigger groups. We all now that and had enough time to accept it. The problem are the people. I don’t care much about pug zergs, but i simply don’t understand how guilds, that i personally regard very highly, keep running together even if they have more than enough people to have a proper event. If you get wiped by a zerg than try to think of different tactics etc. How will you ever improve or get a challenging fight if you constantly have more numbers than your opponents?
There is no shame in getting defeated by bigger numbers.

I wish everybody a nice week!
Rorik, a dude from FURY.

Yea Rorik i agree 100% both servers had Guilds that ive grown to respect recently running in huge numbers of mixed guilds and Guild+Blob. I called the PRXM run early as it just wasnt very fun. Hopefully we can meet some of you on your own later in the week.

hehe, not going to make the same mistake this reset, are we, fellow combatants?

http://imgur.com/b4bGJue

yes yes, come at me bros, I´m sitting here in my flame kittenant batman underwear, you can´t hurt me!

(except for my feelings…)

muslumgurseks.4951:

Well I’d really like to respond you but already got 2 warnings for pointing out how kittened GH’s actions are so imma stop and will say only this which will be deleted by mods in for like 5mins. Till Anet takes measures against blobing this is how it will go even though we are against it as guild we are being pushed to do so since its not fun to get constantly hit by train! But what are they doing pushing AC buffs and that kinda kittened things to make people wanna leave the game for good. nuff said I dont really care about what GH or any other world does they only get to taste their own medicine as long as we are concorned.

I think you misunderstand – we are simply giving -you- a taste of your own medicine now. Little bitter eh? And why do you have your computer specs in your signature? This isn’t a hardware forum – you’re like those types of people who do Twitter tags on FaceBook.

muslumgurseks.4951:

Well I’d really like to respond you but already got 2 warnings for pointing out how kittened GH’s actions are so imma stop and will say only this which will be deleted by mods in for like 5mins. Till Anet takes measures against blobing this is how it will go even though we are against it as guild we are being pushed to do so since its not fun to get constantly hit by train! But what are they doing pushing AC buffs and that kinda kittened things to make people wanna leave the game for good. nuff said I dont really care about what GH or any other world does they only get to taste their own medicine as long as we are concorned.

After you blobbed no other guild on GH did to respond. We kept running like normal. We will learn to wipe your blob and you will lose skill due to not being happy playing on easy mode. DZ blob and we just hit it and see what happens, we win some we lose some but its much more fun than being a crybaby and blobbing.

Funny, when a VoTF guy said in an earlier threat that you’d have to adapt and learn after we came into this match he was basically crucified and ridiculed. Even in this threat, not long ago someone used his post to degenerate a server.
Yet here we are, there are 10’s of posts with people claiming to have improved. People saying that their guilds have become better after fighting many larger and more well-coordinated groups and claiming that they’ve grown on their server as a whole by overcoming this seemingly impossible to beat threat.
Blobbers became the blobbed and vice versa, skilless became the skilled and vice versa.
People are accusing others of things their own server does as well and people generalize an entire server based on these people.

The highlight of today for me at least, was reading someone claiming that RoS prime time was Tier 8 quality at best. You’re talking to a server that won the T8 matchup for weeks on end with no more then two 10~man WvW focussed guilds and a PvX guild that had some activity in WvW.

But let’s not dwell on the past.
I’ve grown to like quite a few players who I’ve had the pleasure of playing with. I still have my prejudice and ill thoughts towards others, not players individually, but groups of people. But perhaps, in time, we’ll all be enjoying each other and have many fun times. Like those duels and GvG’s. Of course people find a way to complain about even that thought…

Got great respect for both our opponents in this matchup, if not for all posts in this thread It was an awesome, hard-fought week until the chaos of the last 2 days.

Looking forward to a week without disconnects and seeing who really owns this tier. Bring it on!

Really strong reset from Dzag/RoS, gratz! This is more like how we expected things to go last week.

Jong.5937:

Looking forward to a week without disconnects and seeing who really owns this tier. Bring it on!

Indeed! Though to be honest I suspect all three servers are so close that whoever wins is basically a function of luck in who gets focussed less over the week. All three servers fairly randomly choose their next objectives on each map, and sometimes it just happens that both enemies are attacking the same server for a while, then things ebb and flow back and forth.

Because all three servers are fairly equal in strength (imo) I suspect if we played each other 10, 20, 100, 1000 times we’d probably end up close to a 33% win rate each (and possibly a very high suicide rate, though that’s another story :p).

Of course the new tier system means we probably won’t be testing that theory, but I think we’ll be trading winners whenever we are matched up unless population shifts dramatically.

Have a good day today

Had great fun on our bl last night. Mainly fighting Dzag, but not because RoS weren’t there I just never happened to be around when we fought you apart from on my own.

We got hit hard but there were some good fights. Highlight for me was inside Bay. Dz had got upgrades going and we got inside inner only for the upgrade to complete shutting half our forces out. Nevertheless we held the stairs on inner wall and wiped your push but couldn’t get the lord down in time before you’d respawned and counter charged us. Lovely little battle

EDIT: Actually I tell a lie, fought AIR a couple of times

Just wanna say thanks to everyone for nice fights at reset, outmanned or outmanning. We had a lot of fun, had our peak at 10 people at the start, but went down to 4 at 11:30pm.
Special thanks to [Hot] from DZ and SOE frome GH

Looking forward to the rest of the week! Hopefully without dc’s! :P

the day before reset I dced so many times I gave up fights, and joined a dancing party on the hill in front of SM castle. Kudos to the Surmian Charr Engi and the other dude/gal (sorry I tried to take a screenie but got dced in the process -,-) who danced along with me, it was really fun (even when your treb made me fly from the hill xD , feel free to pm me for more dangerous dancing parties.

jesus, we (Gh) are getting our butt kicked hard atm

great fights yesterday Dz and Ros, you guys kept us running all over our BL yesterday

keep up the fighting spirit and see you all on the battle field!

Great reset to Dz and RoS, was definitely hard for my roaming group to actually do much roaming! If anyone is looking for some duels or possibly small team fights this week feel free to /whisper me.

Ray.2640:

Funny, when a VoTF guy said in an earlier threat that you’d have to adapt and learn after we came into this match he was basically crucified and ridiculed. Even in this threat, not long ago someone used his post to degenerate a server.
Yet here we are, there are 10’s of posts with people claiming to have improved. People saying that their guilds have become better after fighting many larger and more well-coordinated groups and claiming that they’ve grown on their server as a whole by overcoming this seemingly impossible to beat threat.
Blobbers became the blobbed and vice versa, skilless became the skilled and vice versa.
People are accusing others of things their own server does as well and people generalize an entire server based on these people.

The highlight of today for me at least, was reading someone claiming that RoS prime time was Tier 8 quality at best. You’re talking to a server that won the T8 matchup for weeks on end with no more then two 10~man WvW focussed guilds and a PvX guild that had some activity in WvW.

But let’s not dwell on the past.
I’ve grown to like quite a few players who I’ve had the pleasure of playing with. I still have my prejudice and ill thoughts towards others, not players individually, but groups of people. But perhaps, in time, we’ll all be enjoying each other and have many fun times. Like those duels and GvG’s. Of course people find a way to complain about even that thought…

exactly what i feel

Hi everybody,

Due to the recent reset of the WvWvW match-ups, this thread will now be closed.

Let’s refresh the discussions and start on a new and friendly place!

Also, please do not forget to check this topic before posting in another thread.

Thanks for your understanding and have fun in the upcoming fights!