Guild Wars 2

Lol I think the overwhelming discombobulation on KN has scared competency away for now.

Solstice.1097:

Cassiel.8762:

Solstice.1097:

KN stop pushing us while we’re trying to push HoD. Hit them at the same time kittenes!

Not gonna happen. Unfortunately, most of the Kaineng commanders left (who can only provide maybe 20% coverage) are ones who ignore the defense of an upgraded keep in favor of capping a supply camp elsewhere. How can you expect them to grasp that Kaineng should be hitting HoD?

is there someone in KN who knows strategy we can pool together and buy a tag for? i feel like it would be in our best interest. >.<

Just my observation, but most commanders now are just trying to find their footing. No one is dedicated to borderland defense so every CMD that tags up wants to “take” stuff but rage quits after getting wiped. Multiple cmds tag up in one map and do whatever they want.

Honestly, Kaineng is a mess and it’ll take more than a cmd tag to straighten things out. Someone will step up sooner or later so have patience lol

Noobie.1073:

Just my observation, but most commanders now are just trying to find their footing.

i hope they find their footing in HoD’s kitten .

haha all the FC are going “No way man HoD totally outnumbers.”

It’s all a matter of perspective, but i’ll tell you right now you guys think you lack numbers because all of your pugs are blobbed up on a commander tag somewhere, transferring between maps in a huge mass.

Take EB out of the picture, because we all know that’s just a pug’s playground for SM.

I’m talking about in the borderlands. In our TS, multiple commanders communicate and over the entire weekend one borderland would be relatively calm, minus a few havoc groups messin’ with our towers.

And then BOOM huge FC zerg out of no where. A massive pug zerg at that.

I’m not denying that HoD has more fair weathers than you guys, believe me. What i’m saying is, our numbers are actually quite similar just spread out differently.

During prime time its a pretty competitive match; and a lot of fun. There was a time when FC would get absolutely run over, not anymore and it’s a pleasant surprise.

Vitamin; I’m coming for you.

Aratoa.7398:

You’re misrepresenting yourself. That is a fine screen shot but there were a number of times you had 12-15 people while the HoD group was down to about 7-8. They might not have been your guild (PAWG? Couple others) but it wasn’t as bad as you make it out to me.

But the main reason I’m posting is the bolded is hilarious. Yarr has been emote spamming since the moment this match started. One of the first things I said in TS when this match started was “Did I ever do anything to Yarr?” because in literally the first engagement (Me alone getting rolled by 10-15 FC, mostly Yarr) I had a bunch of Yarr members /dancing, jumping and /laughing on my corpse. This has continued every time as well. This doesn’t bother me, it’s part of the game but it’s funny you posted that when your guild has been the one I’ve seen doing it the most.

Don’t think we’ve laughed on any VLK O.o probably the only guild in HoD we like. You were probably killed around a different person, we have made a point to emote on people who emote on us.

WhiteRose.6934:

Keep an eye out for Sandy and I this week, we’ll be looking for you! If I’m on an alt don’t kill me too hard okay?

i’ll target you first Rose

Aratoa.7398:

You’re misrepresenting yourself. That is a fine screen shot but there were a number of times you had 12-15 people. They might not have been your guild (PAWG? Couple others) but it wasn’t as bad as you make it out to me.

But the main reason I’m posting is the bolded is hilarious. Yarr has been emote spamming since the moment this match started. One of the first things I said in TS when this match started was “Did I ever do anything to Yarr?” because in literally the first engagement (Me alone getting rolled by 10-15 FC, mostly Yarr) I had a bunch of Yarr members /dancing, jumping and /laughing on my corpse. This has continued every time as well. This doesn’t bother me, it’s part of the game but it’s funny you posted that when your guild has been the one I’ve seen doing it the most.

Huh? As far as I recall, by the time HoD had gotten back to the tower there were 2 members of PAWG that showed up. I think there were about 3 other people that showed up after that, but I was mainly refering to the whole “run back to their spawn camp” part, which only happened when there was nobody there but 7 Yarr and 20+ HoD. Sorry if that came out a little misrepresentational, but I was…mildly surprised that someone was calling out people for not committing to a fight where the numbers were ~3 times in the enemy’s favour.

As to the emote spamming, what I wrote is true. Personally, the only emote I use is /sit when I’m watching something from the sidelines and there’re no dead bodies within 600 range of me. For the rest of the guild, as far as I’m aware, we generally only use them when the other person already spammed it. I think there’s 1 or 2 people in our guild that will do it without much provocation, and I actually won’t defend them, ‘cause I’m not that hypocritical. If it’s any consolation, most of us have “Really? Why would you…?” facepalm moments in TS when it happens like that.

Other than that, if you didn’t do anything troll worthy to a Yarr member and you had 3+ people spam emotes at your corpse, it was probably a case of mistaken identity. And for that, I apologize.

Edit: I need to learn to format faster. It’s sad that that I can get ninja’d within 5 minutes…

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Justine.6351:

Just saw the fc silver knight in EB at mendons tower, they died ;-(

must Have ranked up last night ;-)

Edit: wow just saw another lol. I feel so small as a major rank

he doesnt command

he used to a little, but hasnt for months. but hes been growing his guild some recently and will lead/run some small ops with them.

he is everywhere, a zerg on his own, and totally legendary to us
lol

Lol @ wanting nsp.
After this run hod will no doubt be silver and you will get your nsp. They will roll ya just as hard if half their server doesn’t transfer by then.

Justine.6351:

Lol @ wanting nsp.
After this run hod will no doubt be silver and you will get your nsp. They will roll ya just as hard if half their server doesn’t transfer by then.

I think HoD is just having a good week. Since reset night they’ve only hit 400 PPT twice and Kaineng looks like a T7/T8 server. If we had HoD/FC/SF I’m not saying HoD wouldn’t win but I can guarantee you the match would be very close.

Bllade.1029:

haha all the FC are going “No way man HoD totally outnumbers.”

It’s all a matter of perspective

Yeah guys you’re not outnumbered, you’re just looking at this from the wrong perspective

Solstice.1097:

Justine.6351:

Lol @ wanting nsp.
After this run hod will no doubt be silver and you will get your nsp. They will roll ya just as hard if half their server doesn’t transfer by then.

I think HoD is just having a good week. Since reset night they’ve only hit 400 PPT twice and Kaineng looks like a T7/T8 server. If we had HoD/FC/SF I’m not saying HoD wouldn’t win but I can guarantee you the match would be very close.

Kaineng can probably bounce back to being more competitive, but every server suffers a big morale hit after incidents like that. The HoD/FC/SF matchup should be interesting. HoD brings out a big reset usually (as we saw) but the last times we’ve fought them SF does as well. If we get less of a running start that may impact participation.

Yeah I’m still concerned about wvw population once pvers get their achiement pts. I don’t like seeing t3 bl getting papered at night cause of low pop ;-(
Maybe some will stick around, not much else to do in game after certain point.
Did note that all day yesterday fc bl had 3 wp ;-)

Mooncow.6847:

Bllade.1029:

haha all the FC are going “No way man HoD totally outnumbers.”

It’s all a matter of perspective

Yeah guys you’re not outnumbered, you’re just looking at this from the wrong perspective

wait so on reset did you queue all 4 maps purely with skill then? teach me your ways!

HoD does have more #s but it’s not a huge gap over FC. besides reset night, since then it appears only to be about 10-20% more than us. Kaineng are the ones who are outnumbered – kudos to all the KN who stuck around keep up the fight!

Mooncow is some troll on KN, don’t listen to him

Yeah had a little annoying kn engineer killing yaks last night. Killed them 4 times but they just kept coming to stop those yaks going to our hills. Someone knows how to use the outmanned buff ;-)

Oh and the fc silver knight made hod blob in eb look kittened at veloka. Mowed us down with AC ;-(
Had catas and still the blob insisted in fighting under all those ac.

Solstice.1097:

Mooncow.6847:

Bllade.1029:

haha all the FC are going “No way man HoD totally outnumbers.”

It’s all a matter of perspective

Yeah guys you’re not outnumbered, you’re just looking at this from the wrong perspective

wait so on reset did you queue all 4 maps purely with skill then? teach me your ways!

HoD does have more #s but it’s not a huge gap over FC. besides reset night, since then it appears only to be about 10-20% more than us. Kaineng are the ones who are outnumbered – kudos to all the KN who stuck around keep up the fight!

Wow they queued all 4? Pretty sure FC has never had that happen. I’m fine with being the underdog and I am fine with being outnumbered. But pretending like your glorious and original commanding ideas like “spreading out” and “each guild defends a borderland” has got you there is a laugh. How quickly you forget your last weeks score young one. Where was this deep and insightful perspective last week for HoD?

I think what you really hinted at is the “quality” of our players is not as good as yours? That’s so racist

orphanMosquito.5837:

Solstice.1097:

Mooncow.6847:

Bllade.1029:

haha all the FC are going “No way man HoD totally outnumbers.”

It’s all a matter of perspective

Yeah guys you’re not outnumbered, you’re just looking at this from the wrong perspective

wait so on reset did you queue all 4 maps purely with skill then? teach me your ways!

HoD does have more #s but it’s not a huge gap over FC. besides reset night, since then it appears only to be about 10-20% more than us. Kaineng are the ones who are outnumbered – kudos to all the KN who stuck around keep up the fight!

Wow they queued all 4? Pretty sure FC has never had that happen. I’m fine with being the underdog and I am fine with being outnumbered. But pretending like your glorious and original commanding ideas like “spreading out” and “each guild defends a borderland” has got you there is a laugh. How quickly you forget your last weeks score young one. Where was this deep and insightful perspective last week for HoD?

I think what you really hinted at is the “quality” of our players is not as good as yours? That’s so racist

No, what i’m hinting at is you can’t be everywhere at once.

Haha yeah losing to EBay, what a bunch of noobs.

The complaining in this tread is dismissal. Nothing new but the same old QQ.

Atleast I get to see Yarr again.

If HoD wasn’t hated enough by all servers, winning this leauge bit should do it.

orphanMosquito.5837:

Solstice.1097:

Mooncow.6847:

Bllade.1029:

haha all the FC are going “No way man HoD totally outnumbers.”

It’s all a matter of perspective

Yeah guys you’re not outnumbered, you’re just looking at this from the wrong perspective

wait so on reset did you queue all 4 maps purely with skill then? teach me your ways!

HoD does have more #s but it’s not a huge gap over FC. besides reset night, since then it appears only to be about 10-20% more than us. Kaineng are the ones who are outnumbered – kudos to all the KN who stuck around keep up the fight!

Wow they queued all 4? Pretty sure FC has never had that happen. I’m fine with being the underdog and I am fine with being outnumbered. But pretending like your glorious and original commanding ideas like “spreading out” and “each guild defends a borderland” has got you there is a laugh. How quickly you forget your last weeks score young one. Where was this deep and insightful perspective last week for HoD?

I think what you really hinted at is the “quality” of our players is not as good as yours? That’s so racist

Perhaps I should not that I am from Kaineng. And that last post was sarcasm
And as far as where was this last week, HoD was tanking on purpose. They were scared that their ques on all four borderlands couldn’t compete in silver league

i’m pretty sure it was only 1-2 HoD guys that were trying to chest thump. and after the beating they took last week I’m surprised it’s not more so I think that speaks well of the server as a whole.

The only #s gap that was really significant was on reset night.

In reality the only issue I can complain about is how the season schedule does not put HoD in any tough 3-way matches. Considering KN has about T7/T8 population now, every week HoD has a server in the match that is as weak as KN or weaker.

At least ONE of these matches should be in the rotation but none of them are:

HoD/FC/SF
HoD/FC/DH
HoD/DH/SF
HoD/FC/ET
HoD/SF/ET
HoD/DH/ET

so basically the schedule itself is totally flawed by kaineng’s incorrect rating as the top seed.

Mooncow.6847:

Perhaps I should not that I am from Kaineng. And that last post was sarcasm
And as far as where was this last week, HoD was tanking on purpose. They were scared that their ques on all four borderlands couldn’t compete in silver league

Geta load of this guy. Think he knows more about HoD then the people on it. Sure we tanked, but honestly if we tried like we did in previous T4 and T5 matchups we have did the same. Have about half the score the winning server does.

Solstice.1097:

so basically the schedule itself is totally flawed by kaineng’s incorrect rating as the top seed.

Sure it’s all Kaineng’s fault. Blame it on the little guy

In all seriousness though, I do agree with you that our ranking screwed this up a bit for you guys to get a competitive match. I’m sure DH or SF will give you guys a run for your money so keep it fun.

Remember everyone, this is just a game…you can’t really carry such a heavy hammer in real life!! jk jk

First of all, HoD had no say in our matchups. WE WOULD LOVE a HoD/DH/SF, HoD/FC/SF, HoD/SF/ET or what have you, but we cannot control this and are disappointed that we are only going to have two weeks with a real fight on our hands. That being said, our numbers are greater than other server. WE KNOW THIS, but our WvW core population is only marginally larger, but very well practiced and coordinated with each other so our CORE groups can cover more ground by spreading out.
As we all know in WvW, when one server gets any sort of advantage, the fairweathers come out to play and tag along with the tags that are up (which are our core groups that spread out to each map) allowing them the option of being a little sheep in ANY map which in a ripple effect adds MORE fairweathers.
What we are trying to explain is that our coordination between guilds effects the number of fairweathers we are getting combined with a greater amount of core to start if on only marginally.
The real question is (and will be decided in the final week) is how many of these fairweathers will stick around after they get their achievs.

Again, we wish everyone the best, but do not attribute HoD’s success to its current bloated population. There are a LOT of guilds that worked very hard to improve before the leagues started, training their members, coordinating builds for better group comps, and getting to know the commanders/members of our sister guilds to ensure a coordinated and successful 7 week tournament. Thus, with our practice, coordination, and hard work, we get the fairweathers and for the first time in a very long time, ques in ANY of the maps.

Justine.6351:

Yeah had a little annoying kn engineer killing yaks last night. Killed them 4 times but they just kept coming to stop those yaks going to our hills. Someone knows how to use the outmanned buff ;-)

Oh and the fc silver knight made hod blob in eb look kittened at veloka. Mowed us down with AC ;-(
Had catas and still the blob insisted in fighting under all those ac.

dont feed him feed the rest of us we need the wxp moar

When Kain rocketed up the ranks and rolled over HoD in the process only the core group stuck around that week and it was all we could do to hold onto the northern camp and maybe a tower if we were lucky. We all learned to deal with overwhelming odds that week and for the most part that core group knows what to do and where to go without the need for a Commander or even any map chat or TS.

We have those that will routinely solo camps or even two man cap towers because we had to learn how to do all that stuff when following a zerg/karma train was not an option. The secret however is taking those “fairweathers” as everyone loves to call them and teaching them the ropes the way we learned them without censuring them for mistakes made. Those people tend to stick around and grow our core group. If all you teach a newcomer is how to run in a zerg then of course they will leave as soon as the odds are against you. I could easily name 20 people or more from that core group that would make a top Commanders on any server if they chose to buy the tag.

That is why HoD is moving up…..slowly…but we are moving up not because of a pile of new people but the growing core due to how those new people are treated.

Bllade.1029:

haha all the FC are going “No way man HoD totally outnumbers.”

It’s all a matter of perspective, but i’ll tell you right now you guys think you lack numbers because all of your pugs are blobbed up on a commander tag somewhere, transferring between maps in a huge mass.

Take EB out of the picture, because we all know that’s just a pug’s playground for SM.

I’m talking about in the borderlands. In our TS, multiple commanders communicate and over the entire weekend one borderland would be relatively calm, minus a few havoc groups messin’ with our towers.

And then BOOM huge FC zerg out of no where. A massive pug zerg at that.

I’m not denying that HoD has more fair weathers than you guys, believe me. What i’m saying is, our numbers are actually quite similar just spread out differently.

During prime time its a pretty competitive match; and a lot of fun. There was a time when FC would get absolutely run over, not anymore and it’s a pleasant surprise.

Vitamin; I’m coming for you.

Outnumbered but NEVER outmanned blades!!!!

you can find me pillaging your BL :P

If KN can push on FC then they can push on HoD too…

But it makes little difference to me. I’d rather see HoD go to Silver League instead of FC. Unless we can get more numbers in wvw than we’ve had since reset. If FC gets in over it’s head it will kill our wvw because people don’t like to play when we’re losing and that makes us lose even worse.

Mercabre.7123:

First of all, HoD had no say in our matchups. WE WOULD LOVE a HoD/DH/SF, HoD/FC/SF, HoD/SF/ET or what have you, but we cannot control this and are disappointed that we are only going to have two weeks with a real fight on our hands. That being said, our numbers are greater than other server. WE KNOW THIS, but our WvW core population is only marginally larger, but very well practiced and coordinated with each other so our CORE groups can cover more ground by spreading out.
As we all know in WvW, when one server gets any sort of advantage, the fairweathers come out to play and tag along with the tags that are up (which are our core groups that spread out to each map) allowing them the option of being a little sheep in ANY map which in a ripple effect adds MORE fairweathers.
What we are trying to explain is that our coordination between guilds effects the number of fairweathers we are getting combined with a greater amount of core to start if on only marginally.
The real question is (and will be decided in the final week) is how many of these fairweathers will stick around after they get their achievs.

Again, we wish everyone the best, but do not attribute HoD’s success to its current bloated population. There are a LOT of guilds that worked very hard to improve before the leagues started, training their members, coordinating builds for better group comps, and getting to know the commanders/members of our sister guilds to ensure a coordinated and successful 7 week tournament. Thus, with our practice, coordination, and hard work, we get the fairweathers and for the first time in a very long time, ques in ANY of the maps.

This^

I seriously hope that you’re not naive enough to believe that HoD is the ONLY server that does this or the ONLY server in this match-up to do this? I can’t speak for FC but Kaineng has had to work together to be even marginally relevant (which we aren’t) but my point is, Kaineng also works in collaboration. Commanders working together for a common purpose. Though the purpose may not benefit the server as a whole, the point is, their actions are united and in this process, they are learning how to effectively command as many of the more experienced commanders have left.

I’m not saying that HoD is not coordinated like you say, but to blatantly put that you’re server is superior in tactics and skill is just ludicrous. Sure HoD’s success can be attributed to the additional training and coordination, but everyone knows that in order to tick 400+ppt on reset and one other night, there is a big population difference. No one denies that your fairwethers have come out to play because of the stomping you’re putting on, but even without them, you would’ve outnumbered Kaineng and FC by more than marginal numbers.

Refer back 2 weeks ago, KN/HoD/DR, that was a close match and Kaineng had about twice as much people then than we do now (HoD still outnumbered us, no queues on any map on reset then or now). Are you saying that 2 weeks ago when there was no achievements to get, your fairweathers still came to play even though HoD got 2nd? If your numbers from 2 weeks ago have not inflated or deflated, you’d vastly outnumber us with or without the PvE fairweathers coming in for achievements.

Again, I don’t want to discredit your server’s hard work, but don’t assume that no other server did anything while you guys “trained”.

if someone knows how to do it from the API I’d be curious to see the data on points by border. i have a feeling the # of points HoD has earned in KN border is like 80% of their lead on FC.

Takerukun.8924:

Aratoa.7398:

You’re misrepresenting yourself. That is a fine screen shot but there were a number of times you had 12-15 people. They might not have been your guild (PAWG? Couple others) but it wasn’t as bad as you make it out to me.

But the main reason I’m posting is the bolded is hilarious. Yarr has been emote spamming since the moment this match started. One of the first things I said in TS when this match started was “Did I ever do anything to Yarr?” because in literally the first engagement (Me alone getting rolled by 10-15 FC, mostly Yarr) I had a bunch of Yarr members /dancing, jumping and /laughing on my corpse. This has continued every time as well. This doesn’t bother me, it’s part of the game but it’s funny you posted that when your guild has been the one I’ve seen doing it the most.

Huh? As far as I recall, by the time HoD had gotten back to the tower there were 2 members of PAWG that showed up. I think there were about 3 other people that showed up after that, but I was mainly refering to the whole “run back to their spawn camp” part, which only happened when there was nobody there but 7 Yarr and 20+ HoD. Sorry if that came out a little misrepresentational, but I was…mildly surprised that someone was calling out people for not committing to a fight where the numbers were ~3 times in the enemy’s favour.

As to the emote spamming, what I wrote is true. Personally, the only emote I use is /sit when I’m watching something from the sidelines and there’re no dead bodies within 600 range of me. For the rest of the guild, as far as I’m aware, we generally only use them when the other person already spammed it. I think there’s 1 or 2 people in our guild that will do it without much provocation, and I actually won’t defend them, ‘cause I’m not that hypocritical. If it’s any consolation, most of us have “Really? Why would you…?” facepalm moments in TS when it happens like that.

Other than that, if you didn’t do anything troll worthy to a Yarr member and you had 3+ people spam emotes at your corpse, it was probably a case of mistaken identity. And for that, I apologize.

Edit: I need to learn to format faster. It’s sad that that I can get ninja’d within 5 minutes…

No need to apologize, like I said it doesn’t bother me. Amusingly enough though, the person who took the screenshot you used as evidence was one of the first people to emote spam me (unprovoked) when Yarr rolled over me alone on Friday, lol. However I’m quite certain I’m on your list now as a person to spam emotes at, since I’ve been doing it back to you guys. No harm no foul though, it’s part of the fun.

Solstice.1097:

if someone knows how to do it from the API I’d be curious to see the data on points by border. i have a feeling the # of points HoD has earned in KN border is like 80% of their lead on FC.

talk to cosmic

just found HoD mesmer inside bay chased him to where he chose to die at the grate so he could get rezzed from outside.

just thought i’d share since some HoD were crying about someone on my server who did that.

Aratoa.7398:

No need to apologize, like I said it doesn’t bother me. Amusingly enough though, the person who took the screenshot you used as evidence was one of the first people to emote spam me (unprovoked) when Yarr rolled over me alone on Friday, lol. However I’m quite certain I’m on your list now as a person to spam emotes at, since I’ve been doing it back to you guys. No harm no foul though, it’s part of the fun.

I emoted you O.o doubt it was unprovoked then, well your at least not on my list. Only one guild i really don’t like, and it isn’t VLK.

Theftwind.8976:

When Kain rocketed up the ranks and rolled over HoD in the process only the core group stuck around that week and it was all we could do to hold onto the northern camp and maybe a tower if we were lucky. We all learned to deal with overwhelming odds that week and for the most part that core group knows what to do and where to go without the need for a Commander or even any map chat or TS.

We have those that will routinely solo camps or even two man cap towers because we had to learn how to do all that stuff when following a zerg/karma train was not an option. The secret however is taking those “fairweathers” as everyone loves to call them and teaching them the ropes the way we learned them without censuring them for mistakes made. Those people tend to stick around and grow our core group. If all you teach a newcomer is how to run in a zerg then of course they will leave as soon as the odds are against you. I could easily name 20 people or more from that core group that would make a top Commanders on any server if they chose to buy the tag.

That is why HoD is moving up…..slowly…but we are moving up not because of a pile of new people but the growing core due to how those new people are treated.

Wow! Thanks for the tutorial! Us Kaineng and FC players have never been outnumbered severely before, so these secrets are truly treasured!

that post needed at least 18 more sarcastic exclamation points. sassiness level 8/10

Noobie.1073:

I seriously hope that you’re not naive enough to believe that HoD is the ONLY server that does this or the ONLY server in this match-up to do this? I can’t speak for FC but Kaineng has had to work together to be even marginally relevant (which we aren’t) but my point is, Kaineng also works in collaboration. Commanders working together for a common purpose. Though the purpose may not benefit the server as a whole, the point is, their actions are united and in this process, they are learning how to effectively command as many of the more experienced commanders have left.

I’m not saying that HoD is not coordinated like you say, but to blatantly put that you’re server is superior in tactics and skill is just ludicrous. Sure HoD’s success can be attributed to the additional training and coordination, but everyone knows that in order to tick 400+ppt on reset and one other night, there is a big population difference. No one denies that your fairwethers have come out to play because of the stomping you’re putting on, but even without them, you would’ve outnumbered Kaineng and FC by more than marginal numbers.

Refer back 2 weeks ago, KN/HoD/DR, that was a close match and Kaineng had about twice as much people then than we do now (HoD still outnumbered us, no queues on any map on reset then or now). Are you saying that 2 weeks ago when there was no achievements to get, your fairweathers still came to play even though HoD got 2nd? If your numbers from 2 weeks ago have not inflated or deflated, you’d vastly outnumber us with or without the PvE fairweathers coming in for achievements.

Again, I don’t want to discredit your server’s hard work, but don’t assume that no other server did anything while you guys “trained”.

No, I am not saying that HoD is only one to do this, but the discussion today has been focused on the movements of the groups that are in WvW.
Our CORE guilds are not grouping together, but talking to each other while in the same map to have two groups of 30+ players instead of one with 60-70. This way we can hit two places at once while the enemy has to run back and forth trying to be in two places at once as is the nature of having only one commander in the map or even two but both playing their own game regardless of what the other commander is doing and not coordinating assaults to hit two keeps not just at once, but to start at the same time. In addition, running in when things get hairy to provide coordinated flanking while still remaining two independent groups even inside the same keep.
There have been both wins and losses with this tactic but the general opinion is that this is a winning strategy.

I understand you are from Kain and you have not seen these tactics being used against you because, not to insult you, you don’t have the numbers to be a serious threat (something I am sad to see as no one likes to see this happen to server). It is not my intention to insult you, as I sympathize with you in outnumbered fight.

I am not saying that HoD doesn’t outnumber both of our competitors, but when both of us have our core groups in a single map establishing equal numbers (I understand that this has happened on a only a few occasions during this match) that HoD’s coordination has been stellar.

I hate this talk as it, by its very nature, makes me seem narcissistic. It was not my intention to belittle any guild or server, but I don’t like the sole attribution of HoD’s success to go to our numbers when our actual WvW players have worked so hard to grow and learn to be where we are today.

I will talk no more of this. Good luck everyone! Fightclub is Thursday at 8pm EST? (Usually 9pm, don’t know if there has been a change in time or if it was a mistake) Also, Yarr, I’m sure that the rest of my guild will agree, that we would love to get a GvG coordinated, in addition to an open invitation to any other guilds that would like one.

Jesse.4631:

Only one guild i really don’t like…

It’s me, ‘cause we’re sworn enemies! >_>

Jesse.4631:

Aratoa.7398:

No need to apologize, like I said it doesn’t bother me. Amusingly enough though, the person who took the screenshot you used as evidence was one of the first people to emote spam me (unprovoked) when Yarr rolled over me alone on Friday, lol. However I’m quite certain I’m on your list now as a person to spam emotes at, since I’ve been doing it back to you guys. No harm no foul though, it’s part of the fun.

I emoted you O.o doubt it was unprovoked then, well your at least not on my list. Only one guild i really don’t like, and it isn’t VLK.

It was literally I logged on, went into WvW and got rolled when trying to catch up to my group. Unless I flipped you off driving home from work it was unprovoked. Sorry man. But I’m not in VLK though, I’m in ASTC, do you dislike my guild for some reason?

Aratoa.7398:

It was literally I logged on, went into WvW and got rolled when trying to catch up to my group. Unless I flipped you off driving home from work it was unprovoked. Sorry man. But I’m not in VLK though, I’m in ASTC, do you dislike my guild for some reason?

That actually does explain it XD we were having a emote war with your guild yesterday :p sorry thought you were one of the few emoting, and no i used to duel one of your thieves a lot.

now that the weekend pve-fest calmed down this match has become very competitive.

nobody has had 300 PPT at a tick for like 9.5 hours. good fights too!

Solstice.1097:

just found HoD mesmer inside bay chased him to where he chose to die at the grate so he could get rezzed from outside.

just thought i’d share since some HoD were crying about someone on my server who did that.

That was me! I made sure to die there but I was not rezzed from the outside. You missed the thief that was still inside who rezzed me when you all inexplicably took off and left me with no guards. So I was rezzed and set a port. Dying there is not the issue and being rezzed through the gate until they fix it is not the issue as well. (although HoD would not do so) The issue was when your mesmer dropped stuff out of inventory in order to keep resetting timer!

Mercabre.7123:

Our CORE guilds are not grouping together, but talking to each other while in the same map to have two groups of 30+ players instead of one with 60-70. This way we can hit two places at once while the enemy has to run back and forth trying to be in two places at once as is the nature of having only one commander in the map or even two but both playing their own game regardless of what the other commander is doing and not coordinating assaults to hit two keeps not just at once, but to start at the same time. .

I can’t help but laugh at this. Your core WvW groups can field 2 groups of 30+ on a single map and you only marginally outnumber FC? I’ve only seen FC blob in Eternal Battlegrounds and run mostly 15-20 people in borderlands, even in HoD borderlands lol. I’m sure FC has fielded more than 15-20 but that’s been the most I’ve personally seen from them when i’m on.

No harm no foul, Kaineng is well aware that we are not a factor in this match-up, however, we will fight anything close to remotely evened numbers (which is once in a few hours maybe).

On another note, I do like fighting the Ranger and Engi combo from [BRO] and the D/D ele/guardian/necro trio from [GT]. You guys are good together and make roaming a bit more fun since I won’t be killed in .15 seconds.

Thanks!

Jesse.4631:

Aratoa.7398:

It was literally I logged on, went into WvW and got rolled when trying to catch up to my group. Unless I flipped you off driving home from work it was unprovoked. Sorry man. But I’m not in VLK though, I’m in ASTC, do you dislike my guild for some reason?

That actually does explain it XD we were having a emote war with your guild yesterday :p sorry thought you were one of the few emoting, and no i used to duel one of your thieves a lot.

Oooh, which thief? Yeah, I was there for the emote war yesterday. I hope you guys enjoyed it as much as we did. XD

Aratoa.7398:

Oooh, which thief? Yeah, I was there for the emote war yesterday. I hope you guys enjoyed it as much as we did. XD

It was fun till people had to go lol and i don’t remember his full name, had Poison somewhere in it though. Could of been in his account or toon name.

Theftwind.8976:

Solstice.1097:

just found HoD mesmer inside bay chased him to where he chose to die at the grate so he could get rezzed from outside.

just thought i’d share since some HoD were crying about someone on my server who did that.

That was me! I made sure to die there but I was not rezzed from the outside. You missed the thief that was still inside who rezzed me when you all inexplicably took off and left me with no guards. So I was rezzed and set a port. Dying there is not the issue and being rezzed through the gate until they fix it is not the issue as well. (although HoD would not do so) The issue was when your mesmer dropped stuff out of inventory in order to keep resetting timer!

lies you specifically swam 1/2 way around to stop at the grate and then let us kill you there. why would you do that if you were not intending on getting an external rez?

Noobie.1073:

Mercabre.7123:

Our CORE guilds are not grouping together, but talking to each other while in the same map to have two groups of 30+ players instead of one with 60-70. This way we can hit two places at once while the enemy has to run back and forth trying to be in two places at once as is the nature of having only one commander in the map or even two but both playing their own game regardless of what the other commander is doing and not coordinating assaults to hit two keeps not just at once, but to start at the same time. .

I can’t help but laugh at this. Your core WvW groups can field 2 groups of 30+ on a single map and you only marginally outnumber FC? I’ve only seen FC blob in Eternal Battlegrounds and run mostly 15-20 people in borderlands, even in HoD borderlands lol. I’m sure FC has fielded more than 15-20 but that’s been the most I’ve personally seen from them when i’m on.

No harm no foul, Kaineng is well aware that we are not a factor in this match-up, however, we will fight anything close to remotely evened numbers (which is once in a few hours maybe).

On another note, I do like fighting the Ranger and Engi combo from [BRO] and the D/D ele/guardian/necro trio from [GT]. You guys are good together and make roaming a bit more fun since I won’t be killed in .15 seconds.

Thanks!

^ This , HoD claims ot have multiple guilds and multiple commanders, sad part about FC, we don’t have that. Yes we have WZ, Deth, Edge, etc. The sad reality is most other guilds add the wvw casually, meaning yeah they wvw, but they mainly PvE. Our server doesn’t have many big wvw guilds, just few clusters here and there, and then the main big ones. The problem is we don’t field those numbers like HoD in terms of a single guild, but we make up by small groups of guilds running alongside. Another problem is if we have Guild X running its group and Guild X leaves the scene, that cuts our numbers really low and bam we are now outnumbered, meanwhile VLK and such can field multiple numbers and be in multiple borderlands.

Jesse.4631:

Aratoa.7398:

Oooh, which thief? Yeah, I was there for the emote war yesterday. I hope you guys enjoyed it as much as we did. XD

It was fun till people had to go lol and i don’t remember his full name, had Poison somewhere in it though. Could of been in his account or toon name.

Hehe, I know who he is. He runs a warrior mostly now actually. Poison is his usual character name and his account name.

Solstice.1097:

Theftwind.8976:

Solstice.1097:

just found HoD mesmer inside bay chased him to where he chose to die at the grate so he could get rezzed from outside.

just thought i’d share since some HoD were crying about someone on my server who did that.

That was me! I made sure to die there but I was not rezzed from the outside. You missed the thief that was still inside who rezzed me when you all inexplicably took off and left me with no guards. So I was rezzed and set a port. Dying there is not the issue and being rezzed through the gate until they fix it is not the issue as well. (although HoD would not do so) The issue was when your mesmer dropped stuff out of inventory in order to keep resetting timer!

lies you specifically swam 1/2 way around to stop at the grate and then let us kill you there. why would you do that if you were not intending on getting an external rez?

Because it took your attention away from sweeping for anyone else inside. I have died 3 times so far at that gate. Twice I was rezzed after our team took down a gate and capped the keep and this last time by a thief who was still inside. Think, if I had died away from that gate you would have continued searching for someone else, by dying at the gate you gave up the search! Simple psychology! Distraction, just like your group will tap Garri and Hills and attack Bay, all a distraction.

Edit: Argghh..just realized I am giving out trade secrets.. :::::::::::::::::::::: <——zipper