Guild Wars 2

Hello all,

This might be an known isseu but I could’nt find anything on the forum other then FoW and Vabbi being outnumbered.

My question to Arena Net is: Stop placing FoW and Vabbi in the same matchup.
We are simply no match vs the other servers. By putting 2 outmanned servers together and placing a third huge server it will make the complete WvW map green in no time.

By seperating FoW and Vabbi we have at least a chance at winning. Example: Blacktide vs Arborstone vs FoW. With this matchup Arborstone and Blacktide have a hard time fighting each other. While FoW can move more freely.

This week we fought RoF vs Vabbi vs FoW. This was just no fun at all. We were being spawn camped a lot and I can’t believe RoF was having any fun.

Arenanet must notice the WvW map in FoW and Vabbi is always the colour of the third party right?

This week it is FoW vs Vabbi vs Arborstone, we played 15 minutes and Arborstone already got 3/4 of the map…. Come on Arenanet you must notice this.

Please change this matchup with FoW and Vabbi together.

Thanks in advance!

If this is placed in the wrong forum section please move this.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that way, in 2 respects:

1. the matchup system puts Vabbi and FoW together because these 2 servers have the lowest ratings in EU, far below any other server. so “Vabbi vs FoW” is considered a close matchup, the only question is which server gets picked for the third spot in the match?

2. even if Vabbi and/or FoW get matched with 2 strong servers, that won’t make things any easier. in any given matchup, every server tries to take as much territory as possible, in order to get as many points as possible. if Vabbi and FoW are the easiest targets, that means both servers will take all your stuff, then fight over your territory between themselves. unfortunately, that won’t actually give you much more maneuvering room that you’re getting now. instead of everything being green, it will be a combination of green and blue, and while the relative amount of green versus blue may change, there will never be much red anywhere on the map.

-ken

I agree completly. Or they need to force more players towards vabbi and FoW and at least forbid any transfers to other servers. We are slowly bleeding dry of players.
I am just to proud to switch server as i think you just need to stick to your choice. (and perhaps any new players from EU can only join Vabbi/FoW for the time being)

Or maybe it is wise to at least cap the amount of enemies to same amount of defenders in your own Borderlands.

Placing them both in separate matches against 2 stronger servers might actually help a little bit… Both stronger servers, unless they come to some kind of agreement about the 3rd, would have to worry about the other pressing their borderlands as well, so they couldn’t just concentrate all their forces in one spot. It just might be enough to open the door to FoW or Vabi forces being able to hold a keep or two in their own BL. This, in turn, could spark some more interest in WvW if even a glimmer of hope is seen by their servers populations…

It’d be worth a try to force the system to split them for a week or two in my books. ANet has already manipulated the system to break stale matchups in the past. They injected extra points into T8 NA to break that stalemate after 13 or 14 weeks, why not at least try to help these two?

Khayoss.2019:

Placing them both in separate matches against 2 stronger servers might actually help a little bit.

I do not believe this will work. Both servers have to worry about any score point going to Vabbi or FoW. Each score point to Vabbi or FoW will cost them several times as much ranking as any score point going to each other.
I think Ken’s analysis is more likely. In such a match Vabbi and FoW will be spawn-camped by two servers instead of one.

I saw this title and thought bad idea, but I see the OP’s point. It would help if the dominating team has all t3 + waypoints on your BL; so if 2 strong teams are fighting over your land, at least you’ll see some downgrades, and better chance to capture something yourself.

Still I don’t think it’s that easy even if anet were willing; besides, fix the game design and even out population; but like someone mentioned about server pride, so do most other players (you won’t go, they won’t come), unless returnees, blob refugees, etc figure it out.

I don’t believe we will be spawn camped by 2 other servers, you make it sound like they are in peace with each other and both spawn camp us.

How it is now : Vabbi and FoW outpopulated. The third party has no one to focus on but just to kill everyone at spawn. I’m in FoW the only time we can take the garrison is when Vabbi is being active as well. This is only in the weekends. The rest of the week the map stays green.

Coming from RoF who just beat both servers by over 530K, it’s definitely clear they need to split them up. We were bored the whole time, and if you saw something flip on a map everyone would just flood to that 1 area and Vabbi and FoW just didn’t have a chance. FoW and Vabbi are capable of some okay numbers, but a lot probably don’t show up due to having nothing on any of the maps or being spawn camped. With 2 more populated servers it’d give FoW and Vabbi chances to snipe towers/camps/keeps a lot better than they have now. Seperating them I’d put as a mandatory thing in this random wvw matchup algorithm and I’d also allow them to get free transfers so they can atleast have the chance to recruit and build up.

If you leave it is like it is now you just have 3 very unhappy servers and it just ruins wvw for them.

L Step.8659:

If you leave it is like it is now you just have 3 very unhappy servers and it just ruins wvw for them.

This too… if they are in separate matches the servers facing them will likely have a lot more fun than the one facing the two.

In the end, it can’t hurt to try it… it can’t be worse than what they already have.

Just a suggestion, (a terrible suggestion) maybe, just maybe, one could take a break for a week and let the other take all. Shouldnt that split them up? But it still leaves the issue with the 3rd server with nothing to do and still takes everything from them anyway

The problem already is that people take a break (forever) or people swap over to another server if they have the gold…

There is a ranking system, and servers work hard for that, so there is simply no place for any exceptions.
You can:
1. Rebuild WvW community
2. Sit and wait for better times
3. Leave sunken ship

As a former player of FoW who transfered to RoS during the free transfer period at the end of March, I fully agree with Sin. In reality you have two options – either sit and wait or transfer; rebuilding the WvW community on either FoW or Vabbi is impossible unless you get some transfers in, which is highly unlikely at this point.

Getting 600 gems shouldn’t be that hard to get, considering 100 gems are about 3g 11 silver on average; it would take you about 18-19 gold altogether. Just transfer to another med populated server and enjoy playing WvW the way it was meant to be played, with an active community, teamwork and loads of fun hours.

FoW or Vabbi will never win; but I agree, if these two outmanned servers are separated, player from FoW or Vabbi can “do” something as two other servers fight neck to neck. Yes they will be dominated, but wont have constant “spawn camp”.

With current ranking system you can probably face:
Arborstone
Blacktide
Dzagonur
Ring of Fire
Whiteside Ridge
As you expect Ring of Fire and Dzagonur would be totally disaster, so as you can see ANet changed system even worst for you, because they think about GW2 globally, it will never change I’m sure of that. I m sure they respect your fighting spirit as well as Vizunah Square mastery.