Guild Wars 2

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

Much worse since you left in terms of blobbing, only a handful of gvg’s going on

Thanks to SoR and JQ for making a good show tonight, I rarely tag up so it’s good to see some epic fights, special props to IRON, HIRE and Waha in particular for some nailbiting plays.

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

Lag is not a massive issue out of EB unless all maps are queued and chucked in one spot, GvG is sporatic and exclusively in NA primetime. EU is pretty dead for two of the three servers meaning that it is mostly PvD for the late SEA and EU players on SoR (60 man float team, scouts and a stable EB pop), whereupon JQ has no large EU presence and BG has RK (15-25; medium sized) and MERC (5-15; late SEA; Can be ~25 if making a final push) who play during EU.

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

Depends on the server, and the timezone. NA prime sees the most blobs outside of perhaps SEA. I see more 60-70 man ‘blobs’ from SoR, solely because they have the people to do it (plus if you’ve got a fair number of one guild running, with a commander people like, you’ll attract pugs and thus… the blob is formed whether you want it or not). That said, we’re all guilty of running them from time to time. I know a few of our JQ guilds have been going toe to toe with SoR in GvG, maybe not always to prove dominance either way, but to learn from each other. It’s definitely increasing in popularity.

As for JQ, with our smaller numbers we tend to run a main force, with a 10-20 man group supporting/making a nuisance of themselves. SoR is the only server with a large dedicated EU force in IRON, though BG has folks at this time, and JQ sees numbers as well, mostly comprised of the EU players scattered around our international guilds. Can’t speak for the lag, being in the US myself

btowl.7869:

Isn’t LA undefeated at home in the playoffs this year and last? I’m not sure the Hawks will win, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see that series go 7 games. Both teams are very talented and deep.

Not too surprised about the Pens tho, their defense and especially goaltending have been suspect in the last two years of playoffs. Crosby definitely didn’t look himself in the last game, aside from the gamesmanship bs he’s quite well known for, and I don’t think the team as a whole has played to their potential. Islanders came very close to winning their series and, honestly, the Senators got lucky in drawing the Canadiens in the first round. Montreal played decent throughout the year, but really seemed to tail off towards the end of the regular season. We’ll see though, the Pens have it in them to win the series, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen.

Yeah, LA is undefeated at home, but that still doesn’t mean anything. A stat is a stat and stats change. Anything can happen. That’s why I prefer playoffs and finals that are series rather than a one and done.

Pens got the easiest route they could in the playoffs. Isles need some solid goal scorers and a shutdown D to be legitimate. They’re close to being regular contenders. They have a lot of speed and a couple improving stars and some underrated forwards. Senators got lucky with Montreal. Montreal was injury ridden and still took it to the Sens. Bruins are the first REAL test for the Pens, but when Pens D plays shutdown defense like I’ve seen, then Bruins will be beatable. Like I said, Pens will be winning games by one goal if they want to win – like they did in the regular season (which were more like playoff games than regular season games). Tonight’s game will be telling on how they’ll respond.

Was hoping for some last good fights since I’ll be out for a bit after today, but I forgot that this is the hour of the zerg fest. Sigh… at least the zergs aren’t building a million ac’s, so thank you for trying to use skills instead.

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

Well, there’s a lot of blobs going on, I’d have to say and probably everyone will agree, SoR is the server that runs basically all blobs, probably because of all the large WvW focused guilds that can field a lot of people. As far as JQ goes, we do blob sometimes, it depends on whoever is on the map, but lately there’s plenty of 20 man guilds running “counter-zerg” like Aco or WARD, for example, normally when SF is on one map, we have our main zerg ( SF members + pugs ) and another guild running separatly, merging only with the zerg when needeed.
There’s been a couple of GvGs lately yes, and more people are interested on it everyday.
About the EU hours, SoR has the better coverage with IRON, and some early NA guilds, BG like Tarkus said have RK and some MERC, as far as JQ goes we don’t have any EU guild, but we have some dedicated people including myself ( EU timezone ) trying to hold stuff, and get something prepared for when NA starts.
And finally, yeah the lag is terrible, especially on the 3 way garrison fights, but appart from that is not that bad, unless there’s 2 80’man blobs fighting somewhere ( this only applies to NA prime time ).

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

The lag has gotten really bad for me on all maps now. SM on EB will mess up the entire map no matter where you are so it’s still the worst, but if a garrison has a three way battle going on and you’re in the area, forget about it. It doesn’t help that the blobs have gotten bigger as servers are eating up more large guilds, though in general I think it’s just a server load problem. The few massive zergs I see most often in NA prime aren’t helping matters, though.

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

If u thought VS blobs on EU, u should see MERC and ATM here, they practically lag the whole BL with the skill delay.

but i haven’t faced any lag, and nobody has has complained of skill delay so far except while fighting ATM/MERC at their prime time.

but if ur looking at GVG with EU standards, u will be disappointed. the difference is a clear mile.

Queue blobs are common on T1 and T2 servers. The numbers game and downed state reinforce the need to blob up. Press 1 over and over and over… Little to nothing proven in the process. Every server does it, just the scale at which it is can be pretty intimidating.

I personally almost never run with ‘blobs’ and BG/JQ’s blobs of 10+ are always around the next corner to make me pay for that. -_-

Trolling BG spawn with fake banners
^^

salluks.6017:

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

If u thought VS blobs on EU, u should see MERC and ATM here, they practically lag the whole BL with the skill delay.

but i haven’t faced any lag, and nobody has has complained of skill delay so far except while fighting ATM/MERC at their prime time.

but if ur looking at GVG with EU standards, u will be disappointed. the difference is a clear mile.

still sulking about the RARE appearance of ATM on SoR BL……

well, we apologize about you guys losing the garrison yesterday, you guys got a full que(according to SoR, they did try hard) defending your fully upgraded garrison with a 10 second skill lag and we saw the SoR post about how it would be impossible for BG and JQ to take it under that lag… so ATM and Ge merely want to farm that full que running into the LR held by MERC and ND…. and we only want to farm it for a bit… so we’re sorry it became a 2 hours farm according to SoR posts, time flies

be honest, ATM fights MERC and ND every day for god knows how long and NYS + SAHP backdoor us every day and no one complains on the forum like your 20 SoR posts right after that garrison farm…

this is why we like fighting MERC and ND because they are the only guilds that fights us again and again on open field, they don’t complain about getting wiped or 2v1ed and they don’t leave the map after 1 wipe or straight up avoid ATM map during T1 oceanic.

we have nothing but respect for MERC and ND, sometimes we wiped them and sometime they wipe us, everyone gets plenty of badges…(we do find fighting BG is much more fun and profitable than SoR oceanic that hides in fully upgraded and fully sieged keeps, we really don’t have the patience to treb SoR keeps with full que defending it…. not with our short 4 hour operation time.

but rest assured, ATM and Ge is back on BGBL today, and we had fun with MERC and ND, and we got our once a day visit from NYS and SAHP as usual =)

xeang.3650:

salluks.6017:

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

If u thought VS blobs on EU, u should see MERC and ATM here, they practically lag the whole BL with the skill delay.

but i haven’t faced any lag, and nobody has has complained of skill delay so far except while fighting ATM/MERC at their prime time.

but if ur looking at GVG with EU standards, u will be disappointed. the difference is a clear mile.

still sulking about the RARE appearance of ATM on SoR BL……

well, we apologize about you guys losing the garrison yesterday, you guys got a full que(according to SoR, they did try hard) defending your fully upgraded garrison with a 10 second skill lag and we saw the SoR post about how it would be impossible for BG and JQ to take it under that lag… so ATM merely want to farm that full que running into the LR held by MERC and ND…. and we only want to farm it for a bit… so we’re sorry it became a 2 hours farm according to SoR posts, time flies

be honest, ATM fights MERC and ND every day for god knows how long and NYS + SAHP backdoor us every day and no one complains on the forum like your 20 SoR posts right after that garrison farm…

this is why we like fighting MERC and ND because they are the only guilds that fights us again and again on open field, they don’t complain about getting wiped or 2v1ed and they don’t leave the map after 1 wipe or straight up avoid ATM map during T1 oceanic.

we have nothing but respect for MERC and ND, sometimes we wiped them and sometime they wipe us, everyone gets plenty of badges…(we do find fighting BG is much more fun and profitable than SoR oceanic that hides in fully upgraded and fully sieged keeps, we really don’t have the patience to treb SoR keeps with full que defending it…. not with our short 4 hour operation time.

but rest assured, ATM is back on BGBL having fun with MERC and ND, and we’re getting our once a day visit from NYS and SAHP as usual =)

i dont get why ur connecting this to sor bl atall,

My answer was specific to his question, now u be honest and tell me that ATM/MERC dont blob and run with 80 people whenever they are online and lag the whole BL reagrdless of which ever BL they are in and i will keep quite!

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

Every server blobs. It seems to be a curse for the NA servers in general though. Everyone wants to follow the commander they know will give them the loot bags so yeah….It’s a downside and I hope it actually stops at one point. As for the GvGs, not alot of guilds want to do GvG…well I should say there are quite a bit that are up for it in T1, but not nearly as many as EU has. TW has been trying to months to setup GvGs and while we have some guilds that step up to the plate we feel as if no one wants to do them in general except for a select few.

GvG, stand in front of enemy veil, run at enemy, drop bomb, get downed banner rez repeat over and over again? This type of GvG is kittened and I loved GvG in GW1. I don’t think the majority would be interested in this till Arenanet actually provides real GvG. The only reason I’d something something like this is to test theories .

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

GvG, stand in front of enemy veil, run at enemy, drop bomb, get downed banner rez repeat over and over again? This type of GvG is kittened and I loved GvG in GW1. I don’t think the majority would be interested in this till Arenanet actually provides real GvG. The only reason I’d something something like this is to test theories .

What do you mean by real GvG? Surely you don’t mean 20v70

G+pub = full que VS G+ pub = full que sounds just as fun

Doomdesire.9365:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

GvG, stand in front of enemy veil, run at enemy, drop bomb, get downed banner rez repeat over and over again? This type of GvG is kittened and I loved GvG in GW1. I don’t think the majority would be interested in this till Arenanet actually provides real GvG. The only reason I’d something something like this is to test theories .

What do you mean by real GvG? Surely you don’t mean 20v70

Guild Wars 1 GvG was real GvG not WvW.

Doomdesire.9365:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

GvG, stand in front of enemy veil, run at enemy, drop bomb, get downed banner rez repeat over and over again? This type of GvG is kittened and I loved GvG in GW1. I don’t think the majority would be interested in this till Arenanet actually provides real GvG. The only reason I’d something something like this is to test theories .

What do you mean by real GvG? Surely you don’t mean 20v70

No, he completely stated that what he meant by real GvG is the one that existed in Guild Wars 1. I hate how everyone assumes that there are two types of people, those who like to zerg, and those who like to GvG, Just because someone doesn’t like the current GvG meta doesn’t mean that they only enjoy running zerg mobs.

I personally was in several GvGs back when noodles was on the server (i’m ex-EMP) and I found that a lot of what determined the winner in GvGs here was who got off the best banner-rezzes. Banners have become a such a crutch to so many guilds and I don’t think these guilds even realize how much they rely on them. (might not be the same in EU, i’ve seen a lot of EU guilds who are AMAZING at what they do and would probably hand me my kitten if I tried to fight them)

Anyway, for all the GW1 vets out there, the current GvG meta is basically a pale imitation of what we used to have. Not that it doesn’t take skill to win but the strategy and tactics required to win a GvG in GW1 were far beyond the simple “Run back and forth until the enemy is dead” of GW2.

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

baruch bay guilds still look more interesting =P

25 stacks of bloodlust and crap jesus dem buffs. veils and banners. But yes I agree 100% with the SF guy who posted.

We back-door you simply because your backdoor is wide open.
What’s your ground of making a complain?

Sacrx.6721:

salluks.6017:

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

If u thought VS blobs on EU, u should see MERC and ATM here, they practically lag the whole BL with the skill delay.

but i haven’t faced any lag, and nobody has has complained of skill delay so far except while fighting ATM/MERC at their prime time.

but if ur looking at GVG with EU standards, u will be disappointed. the difference is a clear mile.

still sulking about the RARE appearance of ATM on SoR BL……

well, we apologize about you guys losing the garrison yesterday, you guys got a full que(according to SoR, they did try hard) defending your fully upgraded garrison with a 10 second skill lag and we saw the SoR post about how it would be impossible for BG and JQ to take it under that lag… so ATM and Ge merely want to farm that full que running into the LR held by MERC and ND…. and we only want to farm it for a bit… so we’re sorry it became a 2 hours farm according to SoR posts, time flies

be honest, ATM fights MERC and ND every day for god knows how long and NYS + SAHP backdoor us every day and no one complains on the forum like your 20 SoR posts right after that garrison farm…

this is why we like fighting MERC and ND because they are the only guilds that fights us again and again on open field, they don’t complain about getting wiped or 2v1ed and they don’t leave the map after 1 wipe or straight up avoid ATM map during T1 oceanic.

we have nothing but respect for MERC and ND, sometimes we wiped them and sometime they wipe us, everyone gets plenty of badges…(we do find fighting BG is much more fun and profitable than SoR oceanic that hides in fully upgraded and fully sieged keeps, we really don’t have the patience to treb SoR keeps with full que defending it…. not with our short 4 hour operation time.

but rest assured, ATM and Ge is back on BGBL today, and we had fun with MERC and ND, and we got our once a day visit from NYS and SAHP as usual =)

Nakoor.1980:

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

Every server blobs. It seems to be a curse for the NA servers in general though. Everyone wants to follow the commander they know will give them the loot bags so yeah….It’s a downside and I hope it actually stops at one point. As for the GvGs, not alot of guilds want to do GvG…well I should say there are quite a bit that are up for it in T1, but not nearly as many as EU has. TW has been trying to months to setup GvGs and while we have some guilds that step up to the plate we feel as if no one wants to do them in general except for a select few.

I think it’s more the case that WvW is such a dinky excuse for GvG.

ANet shot itself in the foot by not having GvG at launch.

LetoII.3782:

Boulderbolg.3460:

Israel.7056:

Kryyg.8576:

Interesting perspective. And if it is true, impressive if they’ve got the entire server all on the same page. How that is even possible I don’t know though, so many different players and guilds.

I dunno I’m still trying to figure that one out.

SoR certainly seems unified on the battlefield from our perspective,if you know what I mean.

And you seem lost. Cuz the small group action is down a few tiers.
Has been common knowledge for months now.

We enjoy ganking lost zerglings, and wouldn’t stand a chance against the small group action down a few tiers. ;-)

well wvw isn’t GVG its about the whole server working together

now thos saying gvg doesn’t show skill ur wrong it is not the best place to show individual skill it does however show great team skill. It shows this in terms of coordination movement and timing such as a well placed and time CC or aoe blast also is avoiding thes things

There seem to be very pronounced differences between the T1 NA meta, and the T1 EU meta— including things related to GvG it seems — to state the obvious. That said, when RG vacationed on JQ for that week, we all learned so much, and the knowledge spread… therefore changing the meta to try and match what was going on over there. To be honest, EU players looking at T1 NA and thinking “It’s not the same, wahh!” are likely correct, but it’s never going to change unless we have some folks come along and help us change it. This is one of the eternal problems, when a server is attempting to recruit folks over to NA.

Jedbacca.6297:

Burl.9567:

Wotah.2975:

Nightcrawler.2580:

Raven Paradox.1860:

I welcome the double team because it’s more action. As amazing as it sounds, farming bags gets old quickly. Sometimes a wipe is more fun than wiping the opponent.

The only thing that irks me is how big of hypocrites Blackgate is for constantly complaining about 2v1 when it wasn’t happening every single time they are in T1 and then see them stand side by side with JQ. Has nothing to do with WvW. It’s just the poor attitudes that plague these forums that are becoming annoying.

I can guarantee Blackgate would be rushing to these forums if we stood side by side with JQ and took their Garrison.

But, I hope people see these pics and know of this event, because then the games population won’t dwindle by going to the guild graveyard servers.

This actually did happen this week. JQ on the east and SoR on the west and didnt attack each other. JQ breaks into inner, and SoR stays at inner gates stopping BG from getting in. JQ caps it and SoR leaves. SoR member /laughs, I sighed, and nobody on BG posted this on the forums.

Well, you ruined that now didn’t you?!

I was there for this. We let JQ cap it because we couldn’t cap it because of the skill lag. It was atrocious in there. 1 skills weren’t even firing. We figured it was best to let JQ have it and then cap it from them afterwards.

I thought it was because im hugable. I have witnessed both servers let me cap an objective while they stand to the side just to clean upgrades on an objective. I figured the other servers just like giving me things.

We actually play Jedbacca games on SoR. Hit me up ingame sometime and I’ll letcha know which Jedopoly game we’re playing at the moment.

zhonnika.1784:

There seem to be very pronounced differences between the T1 NA meta, and the T1 EU meta— including things related to GvG it seems — to state the obvious. That said, when RG vacationed on JQ for that week, we all learned so much, and the knowledge spread… therefore changing the meta to try and match what was going on over there. To be honest, EU players looking at T1 NA and thinking “It’s not the same, wahh!” are likely correct, but it’s never going to change unless we have some folks come along and help us change it. This is one of the eternal problems, when a server is attempting to recruit folks over to NA.

When RG and VoTF came to NA those were some of the best times I had in WvW. Mind blowing and eye opening. Mad props to those two guilds. They for sure changed the T1 NA meta.

xeang.3650:

salluks.6017:

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

If u thought VS blobs on EU, u should see MERC and ATM here, they practically lag the whole BL with the skill delay.

but i haven’t faced any lag, and nobody has has complained of skill delay so far except while fighting ATM/MERC at their prime time.

but if ur looking at GVG with EU standards, u will be disappointed. the difference is a clear mile.

still sulking about the RARE appearance of ATM on SoR BL……

well, we apologize about you guys losing the garrison yesterday, you guys got a full que(according to SoR, they did try hard) defending your fully upgraded garrison with a 10 second skill lag and we saw the SoR post about how it would be impossible for BG and JQ to take it under that lag… so ATM and Ge merely want to farm that full que running into the LR held by MERC and ND…. and we only want to farm it for a bit… so we’re sorry it became a 2 hours farm according to SoR posts, time flies

be honest, ATM fights MERC and ND every day for god knows how long and NYS + SAHP backdoor us every day and no one complains on the forum like your 20 SoR posts right after that garrison farm…

this is why we like fighting MERC and ND because they are the only guilds that fights us again and again on open field, they don’t complain about getting wiped or 2v1ed and they don’t leave the map after 1 wipe or straight up avoid ATM map during T1 oceanic.

we have nothing but respect for MERC and ND, sometimes we wiped them and sometime they wipe us, everyone gets plenty of badges…(we do find fighting BG is much more fun and profitable than SoR oceanic that hides in fully upgraded and fully sieged keeps, we really don’t have the patience to treb SoR keeps with full que defending it…. not with our short 4 hour operation time.

but rest assured, ATM and Ge is back on BGBL today, and we had fun with MERC and ND, and we got our once a day visit from NYS and SAHP as usual =)

Well spoken, friend!

Much respect to ATM and we feel the same way as you :)

xeang.3650:

salluks.6017:

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

If u thought VS blobs on EU, u should see MERC and ATM here, they practically lag the whole BL with the skill delay.

but i haven’t faced any lag, and nobody has has complained of skill delay so far except while fighting ATM/MERC at their prime time.

but if ur looking at GVG with EU standards, u will be disappointed. the difference is a clear mile.

still sulking about the RARE appearance of ATM on SoR BL……

well, we apologize about you guys losing the garrison yesterday, you guys got a full que(according to SoR, they did try hard) defending your fully upgraded garrison with a 10 second skill lag and we saw the SoR post about how it would be impossible for BG and JQ to take it under that lag… so ATM and Ge merely want to farm that full que running into the LR held by MERC and ND…. and we only want to farm it for a bit… so we’re sorry it became a 2 hours farm according to SoR posts, time flies

be honest, ATM fights MERC and ND every day for god knows how long and NYS + SAHP backdoor us every day and no one complains on the forum like your 20 SoR posts right after that garrison farm…

this is why we like fighting MERC and ND because they are the only guilds that fights us again and again on open field, they don’t complain about getting wiped or 2v1ed and they don’t leave the map after 1 wipe or straight up avoid ATM map during T1 oceanic.

we have nothing but respect for MERC and ND, sometimes we wiped them and sometime they wipe us, everyone gets plenty of badges…(we do find fighting BG is much more fun and profitable than SoR oceanic that hides in fully upgraded and fully sieged keeps, we really don’t have the patience to treb SoR keeps with full que defending it…. not with our short 4 hour operation time.

but rest assured, ATM and Ge is back on BGBL today, and we had fun with MERC and ND, and we got our once a day visit from NYS and SAHP as usual =)

Great post. Good to know you respect us so much.

Seriously BG is it possible to have a fight without putting 100’ of ac’s up? We are’nt trying to take your keep we are just trying to have some fights.

No excuses your blob is as big as ours, you will never learn to fight if u always run and alwauys rely on ac’s.

Zen.8497:

Arale.4207:

SykkoB.9465:

anyone watching the t2 thread if how good sos is doing vs 2 t2 servers shows really how much all of us here in t1 would blow them out of the water in numbers

I’m only going to speak for TC, but a good portion of our population is taking a much needed break. The score doesn’t reflect our servers normal output, nor the output when we decide to rally people from outside WvW. SoS and FA are good opponents, but the population difference would be very noticeable if it was put forth. But that wouldn’t be fun for anyone, especially not us. What’s the point of winning by a large amount if it causes the other two servers to not even want to come out?

If you want to see how we do normally, look at the last 3 weeks with Dragonbrand.

I think it goes back to the post above, same thing will happen more likely with any of T1 facing the T2 servers.

I feel a few servers could be competitive in T1 that aren’t currently in T1. Win? Most likely not. But it wouldn’t be a faceroll stomp either. T2 has grown a lot and the coverage and skill needed to play there has increased too. I honestly feel like FA, DB or TC could hold their own here. Again, not win but hold their own. A good example of this is SoS going into T2 from a few tiers below, and hanging on. Many say they’re learning new tactics and adapting to the change. Any T2 server would do the same in the face of tougher odds and adversity.

Many people think of the TC some of you faced a few months back. We’re pretty different now.

Arale.4207:

Zen.8497:

Arale.4207:

SykkoB.9465:

anyone watching the t2 thread if how good sos is doing vs 2 t2 servers shows really how much all of us here in t1 would blow them out of the water in numbers

I’m only going to speak for TC, but a good portion of our population is taking a much needed break. The score doesn’t reflect our servers normal output, nor the output when we decide to rally people from outside WvW. SoS and FA are good opponents, but the population difference would be very noticeable if it was put forth. But that wouldn’t be fun for anyone, especially not us. What’s the point of winning by a large amount if it causes the other two servers to not even want to come out?

If you want to see how we do normally, look at the last 3 weeks with Dragonbrand.

I think it goes back to the post above, same thing will happen more likely with any of T1 facing the T2 servers.

I feel a few servers could be competitive in T1 that aren’t currently in T1. Win? Most likely not. But it wouldn’t be a faceroll stomp either. T2 has grown a lot and the coverage and skill needed to play there has increased too. I honestly feel like FA, DB or TC could hold their own here. Again, not win but hold their own. A good example of this is SoS going into T2 from a few tiers below, and hanging on. Many say they’re learning new tactics and adapting to the change. Any T2 server would do the same in the face of tougher odds and adversity.

Many people think of the TC some of you faced a few months back. We’re pretty different now.

Let’s just hope Devon and all of his talk of ~variety~ give us the chance to all find out.

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

There are some that still run those numbers although it is mostly zerg blobs. There are definitely plenty of guilds on all servers looking for some GvG’s though!

Can’t speak towards EU hours.

xeang.3650:

salluks.6017:

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

If u thought VS blobs on EU, u should see MERC and ATM here, they practically lag the whole BL with the skill delay.

but i haven’t faced any lag, and nobody has has complained of skill delay so far except while fighting ATM/MERC at their prime time.

but if ur looking at GVG with EU standards, u will be disappointed. the difference is a clear mile.

still sulking about the RARE appearance of ATM on SoR BL……

well, we apologize about you guys losing the garrison yesterday, you guys got a full que(according to SoR, they did try hard) defending your fully upgraded garrison with a 10 second skill lag and we saw the SoR post about how it would be impossible for BG and JQ to take it under that lag… so ATM and Ge merely want to farm that full que running into the LR held by MERC and ND…. and we only want to farm it for a bit… so we’re sorry it became a 2 hours farm according to SoR posts, time flies

be honest, ATM fights MERC and ND every day for god knows how long and NYS + SAHP backdoor us every day and no one complains on the forum like your 20 SoR posts right after that garrison farm…

this is why we like fighting MERC and ND because they are the only guilds that fights us again and again on open field, they don’t complain about getting wiped or 2v1ed and they don’t leave the map after 1 wipe or straight up avoid ATM map during T1 oceanic.

we have nothing but respect for MERC and ND, sometimes we wiped them and sometime they wipe us, everyone gets plenty of badges…(we do find fighting BG is much more fun and profitable than SoR oceanic that hides in fully upgraded and fully sieged keeps, we really don’t have the patience to treb SoR keeps with full que defending it…. not with our short 4 hour operation time.

but rest assured, ATM and Ge is back on BGBL today, and we had fun with MERC and ND, and we got our once a day visit from NYS and SAHP as usual =)

cheers guys, i enjoy all those fights as well
i know there will be some creazy fighting going on when Atm, Ge get on Bg bl

And yea Sor blob zone on map getting 1 wipe few sec later sor outmand. but they rally wanna be n1 so w have to forgive them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUpbOliTHJY (i luved that when i saw it yesterday its like whole sor mebers posts from all wvwvw threads in 1 short clip )

If red guard came to NA they would love it. They would be streaming a lot more and get more attention (that’s why he posted). I’d like to see them on JQ.

Oh and about gvg and blobs I’m down to fight the most random fights. Staged fighting makes me feel like a show pony. I’m a stallion running in the wild open plains and plateaus.

Edit: best gvg I’ve been in SF / tsym party on Zerg island turned in to a rumble when the kegs despawned. This was many moons ago but still the best.

Blahblahblah something about wanting fights, why so bad? Blahblahblah. Come at me, etc. Blobs. Blahblahblah. Something about guilds that are never seen without 25-30 of their closest buddies expecting “good fights” from maps queued by pugs with no commander.

Blahblahblah. And a score update! Woohoo.

Offski.4897:

Seriously BG is it possible to have a fight without putting 100’ of ac’s up? We are’nt trying to take your keep we are just trying to have some fights.

No excuses your blob is as big as ours, you will never learn to fight if u always run and alwauys rely on ac’s.

Sounds like someones zergball got wiped by ACs. Hate when that happens.

We won that one actually. Or at least we cleared the field. A lot of BG pulled back into the cover of arrow cart fire so there was no way to effectively pursue.

pot.6805:

Offski.4897:

Seriously BG is it possible to have a fight without putting 100’ of ac’s up? We are’nt trying to take your keep we are just trying to have some fights.

No excuses your blob is as big as ours, you will never learn to fight if u always run and alwauys rely on ac’s.

Sounds like someones zergball got wiped by ACs. Hate when that happens.

Nah mate we did’nt wipe it was just painful picking up all our bags with all that ac fire going on.

Everyone uses ACs and will continue to do so until Anet nerfs them.

Queued SoR map zerg with 10 ACs last night

pot.6805:

Everyone uses ACs and will continue to do so until Anet nerfs them.

Queued SoR map zerg with 10 ACs last night

I love this game of showing off who has the bigger zerg, I can see myself in your picture!

Also we had exactly 15 AC’s not 10, We were running 2 AC’s per guildie.

I still wonder why anyone could say JQ has EU coverage? There are about 10-15 people from EU online at EU prime in wvw, my guild gets 3 to 5 in a bl, the rest are Sea/Asia/NA which play early or late.
Most of the time we are less than 10.
We can hardly build a havoc squad with EU players.

Hoots.9564:

pot.6805:

Everyone uses ACs and will continue to do so until Anet nerfs them.

Queued SoR map zerg with 10 ACs last night

I love this game of showing off who has the bigger zerg, I can see myself in your picture!

Also we had exactly 15 AC’s not 10, We were running 2 AC’s per guildie.

Which one are you? Hahaha

pot.6805:

Hoots.9564:

pot.6805:

Everyone uses ACs and will continue to do so until Anet nerfs them.

Queued SoR map zerg with 10 ACs last night

I love this game of showing off who has the bigger zerg, I can see myself in your picture!

Also we had exactly 15 AC’s not 10, We were running 2 AC’s per guildie.

Which one are you? Hahaha

The legend all by himself at the top right corner. Well kinda in the middle, but I’m all by myself at the top.

geb I don’t think anyone said u guys have eu coverage u have sea players who stay on late or solo eu guys but no real eu guild like both us on sor and bg have

Hoots.9564:

pot.6805:

Hoots.9564:

pot.6805:

Everyone uses ACs and will continue to do so until Anet nerfs them.

Queued SoR map zerg with 10 ACs last night

I love this game of showing off who has the bigger zerg, I can see myself in your picture!

Also we had exactly 15 AC’s not 10, We were running 2 AC’s per guildie.

Which one are you? Hahaha

The legend all by himself at the top right corner. Well kinda in the middle, but I’m all by myself at the top.

lol nice. I see you there. It was funny, cause at one point almost every AC had me targeted. I lived though =)

zhonnika.1784:

Arale.4207:

Zen.8497:

Arale.4207:

SykkoB.9465:

anyone watching the t2 thread if how good sos is doing vs 2 t2 servers shows really how much all of us here in t1 would blow them out of the water in numbers

I’m only going to speak for TC, but a good portion of our population is taking a much needed break. The score doesn’t reflect our servers normal output, nor the output when we decide to rally people from outside WvW. SoS and FA are good opponents, but the population difference would be very noticeable if it was put forth. But that wouldn’t be fun for anyone, especially not us. What’s the point of winning by a large amount if it causes the other two servers to not even want to come out?

If you want to see how we do normally, look at the last 3 weeks with Dragonbrand.

I think it goes back to the post above, same thing will happen more likely with any of T1 facing the T2 servers.

I feel a few servers could be competitive in T1 that aren’t currently in T1. Win? Most likely not. But it wouldn’t be a faceroll stomp either. T2 has grown a lot and the coverage and skill needed to play there has increased too. I honestly feel like FA, DB or TC could hold their own here. Again, not win but hold their own. A good example of this is SoS going into T2 from a few tiers below, and hanging on. Many say they’re learning new tactics and adapting to the change. Any T2 server would do the same in the face of tougher odds and adversity.

Many people think of the TC some of you faced a few months back. We’re pretty different now.

I’m hoping so too.

Let’s just hope Devon and all of his talk of ~variety~ give us the chance to all find out.