Guild Wars 2

Look I’ll settle this AG……are much better players than us at Deso, they never zerg, are all highly skilled & have only ever taken a tower after beating our 80 man defence. Its quite obvious to every AG player who posts here, after all we only manage a kill when it’s 4 vs 1. We’ll just have to console ourselves with winning this match.

A thread I’d started in the WvWvW Discussion forum got deleted for being insulting to a section of the GW2 community.

I guess that rule doesn’t count when it’s Desolation that gets insulted ..

how can you guys moan about pvd? it’s only pvd when you don’t bother defending your stuff… easy points for us, the whole point of wvwvw is to own as much as possible and keep it and if you don’t defend it you deserve to lose it.

Dyno.9467:

kribre.9683:

@Dyno you dont seem to understand that coverage wins a matchup… just look how the ppt was during primetime yesterday when we got people playing, you were bellow 200 points most of the time and we were 350-420 all the time.. you only won this matchup due to superior coverage in offpeak times, nothing else. Dont really see that you need to brag that much and blame that a PvE server is winning this matchup when almost all the servers in silver league is PvE heavy servers, just look both AG and UW both being very high populated servers aswell. Think we can easily say that we got a lot higher PvE base that dosn’t care about WvW compared to what you guys have.

As you and other people said, it’s a game, you are here to have fun. Most of us have fun playing with guildies and when we do, we kinda rock ur server to the ground when we have people online.

What do you mean bragging? your the one doing that. Deso shouldnt be good enough to win this league but we are, because the silver league is poor, whoever gets promoted to gold league from here will get absolutely hammered in that league.

You can say what you want, your getting beat of a Pve server fighting with 80% pugs.

Every day since Friday, AG just moaned and moaned, get a night guild in then you’ll win, then we can all get some peace. Its pathetic.

If AG are having “fun” with this amount of complaining id hate to see you lot upset.

I don’t mind Deso winning personaly. I mostly play in primetime and I understand why other people are complaining. In primetime the fights you bring are just lackluster. I know that you mostly have pugs and that’s the reason. You just have to understand that we are just used to have lots of action in primetime and it’s just not the same vs Deso than other silver league servers’ guilds. I also play for fights and don’t care about ppt.

The problem for others is that some of you are just proud of yourself winning while you have superior coverage compared to us and most of silver league’s servers. I think they wouldn’t mind you winning this matchup if you could bring a lot more action in primetime.

Rich.1528:

Grotesque.6480:

By the way, Golden Horde – don’t jump on my poor soul, thats not nice

You know, i will be the best jumper in the world after each time i was chased through whole map and ganked by group of ppl (especially guildgroup).

<3

I think loads of the complaints is mis understood here. Its not about the loosing . We knew we were going to finish 4-6 if we PLAYED WELL. That was our aim and we knew very well where our strong opponents were going to come from. The guys are not happy that Deso is bragging about the win. The win is quite frankly only due to the capping during the times Underworld and AG dont have players in wvw. When UW and AG have the numbers on Deso quickly start loosing their keeps at 9pm ( +2) last night deso had only their keep on EB and none of the keeps on their own borderlands. This was in prime time when we all had equal numbers.

When there is equal numbers deso is not better than any one else when the numbers are equal and there it comes down to the fights . But deso is getting very arrogant against AG and UW players where i dont think they have the right to be.

IF you had to put the scenario into another type of game. hmm lets take soccer.

IT would be that Man U is playing Man city but city is fielding 4 Goalies where man u can only get 1 onto the field.

is it desos fault they are allowed to do this ? No .. Deso is well within their rights. The servers are open for 24 hours and you can play whenever you want. If deso prefers playing at 4-6am then they CAN. And AG and UW are full of crap if they moan about it. This I agree with. For me the problem from the start came down to attitude.

Anet had the big mistake here of making it a league without proper rules in place for this Deso cant be blamed,

Agree, equal numbers were not better, thats why we are in the silver league.

We used to moan about Viz PvD on the nightshift thats the way it goes, if you cant counter it you dont deserve to win.

So much drama here.

As far I’m gettin so much fun @ WvW. AG guys are really tough and it’s really fun playing vs skilled opponents.

As for the drama I couldn’t care less.

I heard Vizunah Square did alot of night capping to Desolation and guess what; now they are doing it to us. Kind of hypocritical, but HEY – all is fair in love and war they say, yet that is the only reason you are winning. Let me show you again, how prime time for Aurora Glade on Monday (somebody complained, Saturdays are reserved for beer drinking in pubs) reflects itself on the battlefields – yes, all Garrisons belong to us. And the PPT of 450 points is more then deserved. I will not comment the situation on the battlegrounds, when I woke up and turned on Millenium maps. Just win this matches and go back to Gold, so Vizunah can nightcap you back …

Rynier.3629:

I think loads of the complaints is mis understood here. Its not about the loosing . We knew we were going to finish 4-6 if we PLAYED WELL. That was our aim and we knew very well where our strong opponents were going to come from. The guys are not happy that Deso is bragging about the win. The win is quite frankly only due to the capping during the times Underworld and AG dont have players in wvw. When UW and AG have the numbers on Deso quickly start loosing their keeps at 9pm ( +2) last night deso had only their keep on EB and none of the keeps on their own borderlands. This was in prime time when we all had equal numbers.

When there is equal numbers deso is not better than any one else when the numbers are equal and there it comes down to the fights . But deso is getting very arrogant against AG and UW players where i dont think they have the right to be.

IF you had to put the scenario into another type of game. hmm lets take soccer.

IT would be that Man U is playing Man city but city is fielding 4 Goalies where man u can only get 1 onto the field.

is it desos fault they are allowed to do this ? No .. Deso is well within their rights. The servers are open for 24 hours and you can play whenever you want. If deso prefers playing at 4-6am then they CAN. And AG and UW are full of crap if they moan about it. This I agree with. For me the problem from the start came down to attitude.

Anet had the big mistake here of making it a league without proper rules in place for this Deso cant be blamed,

You dont need a sherlock holmes to tell that border filled with guild groups beat a bunch of puggies who are not on ts nor following a tag.

To everybody, don’t feed the troll, if somebody it’s bragging about something, just don’t awnser, it brings the conversation to a stupid level.

Winning and the word Deserve, just don’t use it together.

Ag only hope that Deso goes in Gold League get perma-stomp by everything there, than when they start QQ about Night cap, that’s the momement to remind them.

Also remember don’t judge Desolation or Ag from single players typeing here. read the posts see what pots it’s not FlameBait and if you want anwser to that.

If you want play PPT or how Anet build the game, and you’re on Vizunah or Na T1, you’re both in the wrong server, Silver League it’s not about PPT, the coverage difference it’s way way too big bewteen the top and lowest.

Aurora Glade –
In terms of WvW Desolation is better server. Even if you were the best of the best in 100m sprint, doesn’t mean you deserve to be crowned winner in marathon. Your server is good in primetime. You have a lot of organized guilds who run in primetime and they do pretty darn well. Doesn’t make you the winner though.

Desolation -
Yes, you are the winner of the match up, yet Aurora Glade is better in terms of skill when it comes to Prime time. You could be doing better in Prime time if you didn’t have full borders everywhere (assumption). So I feel you. By the way, there is not much to be proud about the night shift taking everything without resistance, but you deserve those points because you can man the numbers at the time.

Underworld -
Go go Powerr… Underworld! I love the spirit of my server even if the odds are slapping our face, kitten ing on us and banging our moms. Go go Underworld, keep getting those loot bags :P

This match has been amazing for me, finally managed to get my WvW Jumping puzzle achievement done yesterday.

Suljo.6310:

I heard Vizunah Square did alot of night capping to Desolation and guess what; now they are doing it to us. Kind of hypocritical, but HEY – all is fair in love and war they say, yet that is the only reason you are winning. Let me show you again, how prime time for Aurora Glade on Monday (somebody complained, Saturdays are reserved for beer drinking in pubs) reflects itself on the battlefields – yes, all Garrisons belong to us. And the PPT of 450 points is more then deserved. I will not comment the situation on the battlegrounds, when I woke up and turned on Millenium maps. Just win this matches and go back to Gold, so Vizunah can nightcap you back …

Exactly, glad you agree with me, gz on having more points 4 hrs a day,

Right, everyone moans about Desolation having coverage, everyone says go back to Gold League. Historically Desolation had to build that coverage to survive in Tier 01. Any of you (as a guild or community) coming from tier 2 and below ever fought in tier 1? If not, shut it.

Furthermore Desolation has had to rebuild their WvW community three times. What you’re facing now are the few organised guilds who stayed loyal to their server trying to train an army of pugs.

We all battle queues, we all battle skill lag, the difference is our queues are clogged with AP hunters due to our large pve population not caring about the time and effort put in by the significantly smaller WvW community.

We all want more and better fights, difference is PPT is ingrained in Desolation’s wvw psyche. Yes AG has, on average, more skilled players and larger guild groups, I respect that and will acknowledge the fact, they also have the advantage of a more stable wvw community and guilds. UW I respect your tenacity, you are what Desolation was during the bad period in tier 1, sticking to your guns despite the odds, putting in the time and effort irrespective of the outcome.

Did we tank? Who cares when the truth is Desolation is not good enough to be in Gold League.

joonasp.9217:

If you cannot hold your keeps and towers 24/7 you have no right to win this matchup. If you’re as super amazing as everyone from AG seems to think then you should have no problem winning. Now stop whining like little kittens and grow some balls. Off-primetime tick is a part of the game and if your off-primetime tick sucks then you need to improve your game.

If improving your game means setting my alarm clock late at night/early in the morning, then no thanks. It’s silly when people think coverage somehow equals being ‘good’ at the game. Apparently PvD makes ‘amazing’ servers. With that attitude you’ll find it hard to actually improve yourself at all.

I think most of the AG players are a bit frustrated when they compare how lackluster the fights at primetime are compared to your amount of coverage. Most servers with a similar WvW population actually provide a lot of challenge primetime as well, and as we mostly play for having fun fights we don’t care a great deal about off-hour PvDing as long as we can get some good action in the evenings. Personally I don’t care about how many points we tick early in the morning, it can be 0 for all I care about as long as I can have my fun when I’m actually online playing. Bragging about off-peak coverage is something that anyone would frown upon though.

Okaishi.8320:

joonasp.9217:

If you cannot hold your keeps and towers 24/7 you have no right to win this matchup. If you’re as super amazing as everyone from AG seems to think then you should have no problem winning. Now stop whining like little kittens and grow some balls. Off-primetime tick is a part of the game and if your off-primetime tick sucks then you need to improve your game.

If improving your game means setting my alarm clock late at night/early in the morning, then no thanks. It’s silly when people think coverage somehow equals being ‘good’ at the game. Apparently PvD makes ‘amazing’ servers. With that attitude you’ll find it hard to actually improve yourself at all.

And this is the difference between the old tier 1 and lower tiers, when you’re up against what I’m about to quote you either adapt or you die.

Troma.3250:

Hello Myrmi

It’s difficult to respond without giving impression it’s propaganda, but i will do it anyway. The work i do, we do, since the launch in august, is the result of what you see know.

In the beginning, when i imaginated and created Grand Cross alliance with founders-guilds, i had already a clear vision of things:

In reject of the elitism based guilds i went (like ZOMBIES guild on Stormscale for wow) while i got older, i wanted to make things for every people: casuals, beginners, no matter their experience or free time. I was sure it could be important for a server, as i heard about daoc and server pride. Also, i was fed up with foreign taunts online on french white flag, cowards, and in the other side i was fed up with childish french people being arrogant. I wanted something else.

gradually, seeing people was nice and invested, i wanted to push what i call the “Vizunah Spirit”: never surrender, play for the server, act as a family, brother in arms. We faced many dangers, many strong servs like Blacktide, SFR, etc. We did stand our ground. Our will did NOT break, because our morale was very high. By living all this experience together, united like in sport (rugby for example) or some irl armys, we created links.

We have few foreigners, very little number. But our organization, created by ourselves or inspired by others (the massive defense/multimap golem attack from Elona for example) is strong too. gdocs, speeches, fanatic commanders, great scouts, dolyak escorters, ruin roamers, all this work like an ant society. There is also drama solvers (what i did for the server for 1 year but too much to handle) and diplomatic people.

Then, for the league i created http://www.appelauxarmes.fr, to bring people back for the league and do a massive morale boost. 10000 visitors after, and having feedback from many “frenezy mode” people, i’m sure it had a big role on our actual for coverage. The insults, taunts and arrogance for months from some SFR made our will stronger again and we wanted to make them pay on week one. Pay not in forum but by our actions.

That’s why we do not even whine for the queues: we know our brothers and sisters are fighting the enemy while we wait. I know this experience will not exist forever, so i try to do my best while i can do.

We are the Vizunah brotherhood. We will never surrender.

Tankolation can’t even do the off-peak PvD right if you think about it. I think I’ve seen one upgraded camp not in the traditional Blue area in EB early morning. That’s just insulting!

If you have the coverage to take everything, you should have the coverage to leave your opponents with the sight of their stuff sporting your T3 colours when next they log on.

I suppose it’s because a T0 ticks as much as a T3, so why bother…

The reason you see such a big difference in the score from what you had in matches with Gandara, AM and FR, is that in the last two weeks you guys had a 1v1v1, this matchup is practically 1v1 and the one with the biggest coverage wins, easy as that.
None of us really cried about blobbing or losing, we just reacted about how some people on your server seem to brag and think they have skill for managing to cap in a situation were u have 50+ and we have 5 defenders. Not something I would be proud or bragging about, and I think I speak for the rest of my server mates on the same matter there :P

Here’s some highlights of the fights we had on reset this friday. Enjoy! Was a lot of fun fights.

So if Aurora Glade got a couple of big guilds for night capping and the other 2 servers were complaining, what would you do?

Dyno.9467:

So if Aurora Glade got a couple of big guilds for night capping and the other 2 servers were complaining, what would you do?

The other servers would rightly only complain if we were bragging about how great our skill was in that situation. I think that is the main point of contention here. Winning almost by default should not be a cause for pride, or am I wrong?

10/10 would read deso troll posts again

KyreneZA.8617:

Dyno.9467:

So if Aurora Glade got a couple of big guilds for night capping and the other 2 servers were complaining, what would you do?

The other servers would rightly only complain if we were bragging about how great our skill was in that situation. I think that is the main point of contention here. Winning almost by default should not be a cause for pride, or am I wrong?

Who’s bragging? The only ones i see doing that is you lot in primetime

Dyno.9467:

KyreneZA.8617:

Dyno.9467:

So if Aurora Glade got a couple of big guilds for night capping and the other 2 servers were complaining, what would you do?

The other servers would rightly only complain if we were bragging about how great our skill was in that situation. I think that is the main point of contention here. Winning almost by default should not be a cause for pride, or am I wrong?

Who’s bragging? The only ones i see doing that is you lot in primetime

Well you did ask. Edit: I must confess, I’m not sure if the Deso braggarts on this thread were bragging or trolling.

Now allow me to ask: is it better to brag about winning (or even losing) against tough competition (prime time) or winning against a no-show (off-hours)? Edit: Or better to not brag at all?

Nobody gives a kitten about the points, the main problem in this match-up is that it is freakin’ boring.

Deso, no offense, bring very little to the table when most human beings from Europe play this game, while Underworld atleast try to do their absolute best with what they can muster up during primetime (often ticking higher than Deso actually).

Unfortunately UW don’t have enough numbers, when they did they were a very exciting server to fight against with aggressive guilds and organized pug groups.

Props for Deso doing great during late nights and early mornings, but the problem is that me nor 99% of AG did not play during this time so there’s not much we can say about how your players were then. I can only describe what I’ve seen and it is that Deso does not have enough organization going to make this game the kind of fun that it can be.

Personally I only care about my server being aggressive as far as forcing enemies to fight and that it has organized small and large scale action which anyone can join if they are willing to listen/join voice communication. What happens during times when I do not play is none of my business.

This match up from my point of view

Thanks both Desolation and Underworld for the loot bags and the fact I’ve had more exotic drops than rare drops from you guys.

kribre.9683:

@Dyno you dont seem to understand that coverage wins a matchup… just look how the ppt was during primetime yesterday when we got people playing, you were bellow 200 points most of the time and we were 350-420 all the time.. you only won this matchup due to superior coverage in offpeak times, nothing else. Dont really see that you need to brag that much and blame that a PvE server is winning this matchup when almost all the servers in silver league is PvE heavy servers, just look both AG and UW both being very high populated servers aswell. Think we can easily say that we got a lot higher PvE base that dosn’t care about WvW compared to what you guys have.

As you and other people said, it’s a game, you are here to have fun. Most of us have fun playing with guildies and when we do, we kinda rock ur server to the ground when we have people online.

This is what Anet allows, so this is what servers/players do. Live with it. Instead of arguing on the same old things with zero results, I kindly suggest you try to enjoy the times your server “rocks our server” and stop complaining in forums.
We all know that in WvW “my server is better than yours nananananana” is just plain silly or complaining about nightcapping…like if your rocking server never nighcapped, having the chance? Oh please. Like EVERY server in the game: if you can nightcap you will.
There is Spvp to show your skills for real, or maybe GvG. WvW is a mixed breed with good things and bad things, we all know that. Play it if you enjoy it.

Desolation has, about 10 commanders with the experience, reputation and talent to do something. Those 10 commanders have to cover 4 borderlands, 24 hours a day, trying to control/manage about 60 or so pugs each. And only 1/8 pugs bother to come on teamspeak. Among those 1/8, 1/5 have their TS sound turned off.

Anyone got an idea why there is chaos?

Prysin.8542:

Desolation has, about 10 commanders with the experience, reputation and talent to do something. Those 10 commanders have to cover 4 borderlands, 24 hours a day, trying to control/manage about 60 or so pugs each. And only 1/8 pugs bother to come on teamspeak. Among those 1/8, 1/5 have their TS sound turned off.

Anyone got an idea why there is chaos?

It takes a lot of time to re-re-form a consistent WvW community, mate. People need to learn how to play WvW in an organized way and not just think they can Pvdoor all the time. I am confident that Deso players will catch up soon.

TheGreatA.4192:

Nobody gives a kitten about the points, the main problem in this match-up is that it is freakin’ boring.

Deso, no offense, bring very little to the table when most human beings from Europe play this game, while Underworld atleast try to do their absolute best with what they can muster up during primetime (often ticking higher than Deso actually).

Unfortunately UW don’t have enough numbers, when they did they were a very exciting server to fight against with aggressive guilds and organized pug groups.

Props for Deso doing great during late nights and early mornings, but the problem is that me nor 99% of AG did not play during this time so there’s not much we can say about how your players were then. I can only describe what I’ve seen and it is that Deso does not have enough organization going to make this game the kind of fun that it can be.

Personally I only care about my server being aggressive as far as forcing enemies to fight and that it has organized small and large scale action which anyone can join if they are willing to listen/join voice communication. What happens during times when I do not play is none of my business.

Amen to this. Very fair statement, mate.

gjop.8612:

Knackers.8562:

Nev.5316:

Funny how my posts are getting moderated for insulting apparently, but it’s fun to watch ag cry lol. It’s not our fault you guys don’t have coverage at night and that’s not the reason we are winning anyways, we are just superior. Most of the time in our borderlands we have unorganized people running around since it’s hard to get a whole guild in with the que , but we are still winning without organization most of the time so … what does that say about ag? Regarding the people crying about blobbing up it’s nothing wrong with that, nearly every server we have been up against do the same thing even ag lol, so it’s a bit hypocritical. And why is it that they can insult us and not get moderated while there is a different rule for us?

PS: About us being the only server who has good coverage the following servers below had decent and pretty much the same amount of coverage as us and they didn’t complain.
Gandara
Abaddon’s Mouth

Even Fort Ranik , and they did much better than you guys against us.

Most of the time? the only time Deso is winning is during offpeak hours, when we come online we steamroll your zerg, and every night for the past week does show that we are capable of pinning you down at equal numbers. Yes you may be superior but only because of your night capping capabilities, no more

Deso has ticked higher then every server we’ve been matched against during prime time at times, it’s nothing new or is it something new to you?

Again beating us during prime time isn’t really anything to brag about, unless a known commander is running it’s pretty much a cluster****.

And yes cause ticking 600 off peak is something to brag about while losing your whole BL and all other maps during prime time isnt =) and its not bragging, youre stating that youre superior in every other way, im just saying youre only superior due to offpeak coverage.

Knackers.8562:

gjop.8612:

Knackers.8562:

Nev.5316:

Funny how my posts are getting moderated for insulting apparently, but it’s fun to watch ag cry lol. It’s not our fault you guys don’t have coverage at night and that’s not the reason we are winning anyways, we are just superior. Most of the time in our borderlands we have unorganized people running around since it’s hard to get a whole guild in with the que , but we are still winning without organization most of the time so … what does that say about ag? Regarding the people crying about blobbing up it’s nothing wrong with that, nearly every server we have been up against do the same thing even ag lol, so it’s a bit hypocritical. And why is it that they can insult us and not get moderated while there is a different rule for us?

PS: About us being the only server who has good coverage the following servers below had decent and pretty much the same amount of coverage as us and they didn’t complain.
Gandara
Abaddon’s Mouth

Even Fort Ranik , and they did much better than you guys against us.

Most of the time? the only time Deso is winning is during offpeak hours, when we come online we steamroll your zerg, and every night for the past week does show that we are capable of pinning you down at equal numbers. Yes you may be superior but only because of your night capping capabilities, no more

Deso has ticked higher then every server we’ve been matched against during prime time at times, it’s nothing new or is it something new to you?

Again beating us during prime time isn’t really anything to brag about, unless a known commander is running it’s pretty much a cluster****.

And yes cause ticking 600 off peak is something to brag about while losing your whole BL and all other maps during prime time isnt =) and its not bragging, youre stating that youre superior in every other way, im just saying youre only superior due to offpeak coverage.

we are superior at PvD, blobbing, coverage, bragging, nagging, moaning and crying anything else you want to add to our superiority list?

It is called a video GAME for a reason people.

Who cares if we Desolation are winning? We play the WvW at night, so what? If we cannot cope with opponents during primetime, thats the only way to do it. And we are pulling it off aren’t we?

We had tougher opponents already, so it isn’t actually tough to pull it off this week.

Thats our playstyle if you like it or not. Maybe you should start to think of how to stop night capping instead of insulting other servers of their inability to fight shoulder to shoulder with you in primetime. In this way you can actually accomplish something.

Wasting your time on forums, certainly won’t help you.

My 2 cents

Im happy reading forums while farming some ag with a cannon at sm.
Im just missing popcorn…

Kurppa.9473:

Im happy reading forums while farming some ag with a cannon at sm.
Im just missing popcorn…

And its nice to cap T3 SM =p

I really can’t understand what this bragging thing is aside a few Desotrolls (who should really stop throwing poo in the flames)? Most of us have gladly admitted that we currently suck badly and our foes have seen it too.

So lets now focus on the fights.

Knackers.8562:

Kurppa.9473:

Im happy reading forums while farming some ag with a cannon at sm.
Im just missing popcorn…

And its nice to cap T3 SM =p

Awesome how superior you are! While we have almost 1hour que, no commander and ppl running around, just waiting to get killed. Isn’t that almost like farming in orr or something? Most definitely something to brag about!

Jeez, all this QQ on something that’s already done. You guys cry like we can just up and move to gold league.
To deso players, I wouldn’t really brag about winning either. It’s been pointed out that several times that wvw is a coverage game and that AG ticks higher than deso during primetime. Not only that but I watched yesterday as the eb zerg literally got farmed in deso keep because nobody listened to the commander. I mean the pugs put them self in the same situation like 5 times before AG actually pulled off, I wonder how long it would have taken until those pvers stopped trying to attack them.

Coverage doesn’t equal skill, so every time a deso player brags about winning all you are saying is you’re really good at fighting doors while the enemy sleeps, and tbh, that doesn’t make you superior as somebody tried to put it.

TL;DR Aurora, please stop crying, while I can agree with some of what you say, you won’t change anything, so please just do something productive and farm these pvers taking my wvw spot

Deso, stop bragging, we have nothing to brag about.

Kurppa.9473:

Knackers.8562:

Kurppa.9473:

Im happy reading forums while farming some ag with a cannon at sm.
Im just missing popcorn…

And its nice to cap T3 SM =p

Awesome how superior you are! While we have almost 1hour que, no commander and ppl running around, just waiting to get killed. Isn’t that almost like farming in orr or something? Most definitely something to brag about!

Dont see how im bragging =/ apparently its fun sitting on a cannon at SM, so i guess its also fun losing a fully upgraded SM ^^

Knackers.8562:

Kurppa.9473:

Knackers.8562:

Kurppa.9473:

Im happy reading forums while farming some ag with a cannon at sm.
Im just missing popcorn…

And its nice to cap T3 SM =p

Awesome how superior you are! While we have almost 1hour que, no commander and ppl running around, just waiting to get killed. Isn’t that almost like farming in orr or something? Most definitely something to brag about!

Dont see how im bragging =/ apparently its fun sitting on a cannon at SM, so i guess its also fun losing a fully upgraded SM ^^

Nope, sry. Can’t see the connection there. And btw, it wasn’t full. Seems like one another guy who started playing like yeasterday or something.

we are superior at PvD, blobbing, coverage, bragging, nagging, moaning and crying anything else you want to add to our superiority list?

Tanking.

iorlas.6721:

we are superior at PvD, blobbing, coverage, bragging, nagging, moaning and crying anything else you want to add to our superiority list?

Tanking.

+1

“The only hours that should matter are the hours I play!”

I think this is what I distilled this thread down to.

Knackers.8562:

gjop.8612:

Knackers.8562:

Nev.5316:

Funny how my posts are getting moderated for insulting apparently, but it’s fun to watch ag cry lol. It’s not our fault you guys don’t have coverage at night and that’s not the reason we are winning anyways, we are just superior. Most of the time in our borderlands we have unorganized people running around since it’s hard to get a whole guild in with the que , but we are still winning without organization most of the time so … what does that say about ag? Regarding the people crying about blobbing up it’s nothing wrong with that, nearly every server we have been up against do the same thing even ag lol, so it’s a bit hypocritical. And why is it that they can insult us and not get moderated while there is a different rule for us?

PS: About us being the only server who has good coverage the following servers below had decent and pretty much the same amount of coverage as us and they didn’t complain.
Gandara
Abaddon’s Mouth

Even Fort Ranik , and they did much better than you guys against us.

Most of the time? the only time Deso is winning is during offpeak hours, when we come online we steamroll your zerg, and every night for the past week does show that we are capable of pinning you down at equal numbers. Yes you may be superior but only because of your night capping capabilities, no more

Deso has ticked higher then every server we’ve been matched against during prime time at times, it’s nothing new or is it something new to you?

Again beating us during prime time isn’t really anything to brag about, unless a known commander is running it’s pretty much a cluster****.

And yes cause ticking 600 off peak is something to brag about while losing your whole BL and all other maps during prime time isnt =) and its not bragging, youre stating that youre superior in every other way, im just saying youre only superior due to offpeak coverage.

This isn’t aimed at you but 1 deso forum warrior/troll does not equal deso as a whole.

I’ll try and explain this abit to people as unless a experienced commander is running on deso there’s pretty much next to no coordination at the times when I’m playing.

People don’t follow tag,run around like headless chickens, people don’t scout, a large % of our dolyaks get killed by the random monsters, people don’t refresh siege, even siege a stones throw away from a waypoint, people would rather burn supply repairing a wall for achiv rather then defending, people ignore towers getting attacked but come out the woodwork once it’s time to cap it back and a whole other bunch of issues I can’t be bothered to type out.

It’s hillariously sad how once a exp commander logs and nobody tags up, a large number of experienced WvW player’s usually mass log or change boarderlands.
This means we sometimes lose our upgraded keeps and towers within 20 mins and the people who scouted/payed money to siege have basically completely wasted their time.

I’m sure other server’s have these same problems also which is why I assume when we steamroll them they may not have a commander or an inexperienced one, lack of number’s or the coordination at that time.

Oh, the irony of this video now.

You will see Deso’s organised force active towards the end of the league sadly, i haven’t even bothered trying to log in for primetime because there is no chance in hell i can get an organised force big enough to fight you guys.

Rest assured, once Deso loses most of it’s PvErs again you will have something to contend you in primetime, in the mean time, enjoy farming our pugs, enjoy capping high primetime, whilst our pugs enjoy karma training your kitten during the day and night.

I wouldnt mind if the people complaining was from a good server, coming from AG its really sad.

Enjoy your prime time and dont forget to let everyone know how great you all were again with a pic of the scorecard thx.

florence.1674:

“The only hours that should matter are the hours I play!”

I think this is what I distilled this thread down to.

Pretty much sums up this thread, AG is a joke anyways, and the only reason they are doing good in prime time is because we can’t get in our wvw guilds since the borderlands are always full. If it wasn’t for that we would be dominating in prime as well. If all the previous silver league servers we played managed to get similar coverage against us during morning/night then i don’t see the issue.

Thanks PT and Deso pugs for the fight in AG borderland, was nice to pug command again after a few weeks break.
Now it’s raid time, so hope to still see you! You guys suddenly dissapeared after we wiped you in the lord room of garrison :/
Which was a really fun fight, which you would have won, if you hadn’t suddenly decided to run after me for 2 min so over half of your group got taken out by our gladians :P That was the defeat, but a really nice fight!

Hope to fight you guys on the map tonight!