Guild Wars 2

Nice work ArenaNet. Not only have you created a zone where you cant realisticly solo run it to the top, or even to the next floor. You have also created a sense of “Every man for himself”. I have never seen so many people not stopping to help downed players.

So in guild we created a 5 man party to try and stick together. Thought that would work well. Oh no……. cant even do that as we are all sent to different overflows. Seriously, this is insane.

Let the insults, L2P comments and flaming of me begin.

Zerg. That’s the Anet way.

Exactly matches my experience. At this point I’d honestly think it was a better experience if every mob just spammed long duration AoE immobilizes, as annoying as that would get. At least then everyone else would be forced to stop and help.

Oh god it gets worse. I stop to res someone, get them up and I go down only to see them run off and leave me to die.

Golf clap

So they make something actually challenging and people still complain. LOL.

I thought it was awesome, despite being on a squishy uplevel thief who went down numerous times. People always stopped to help.

Missywink.7162:

Oh god it gets worse. I stop to res someone, get them up and I go down only to see them run off and leave me to die.

Golf clap

That’s why you don’t stop to revive others unless it’s in the open world, if someone dies from zerging this kind of events then they should be left there >.>

Qaelyn.7612:

So they make something actually challenging and people still complain. LOL.

I thought it was awesome, despite being on a squishy uplevel thief who went down numerous times. People always stopped to help.

How are you posting from a parallel universe? Never seen a single other person help anyone in this mess.

I rezzed loads of people inthere.
Guess it’s just a natural thing to do as a wvw player.
And not running zerker gear sure helps to survive that mess in the tower

lunacrous.6751:

How are you posting from a parallel universe? Never seen a single other person help anyone in this mess.

All those people rezzing my pathetic 11k HP upleveled thief could have been a.. hallucination.

Rezzing or no rezzing. If you´re alone and hit an event, you might as well map back before beginning.

Looks like I’ll be logging on to my tanky necro when I get home from work…

So the new Healing skill doesn’t help at all in staying alive in the tower?

Inside the tower was quite hectic. When I first entered I found myself apart of a giant mass of players moving towards the top. We effortlessly crushed all Toxic Alliance before us. I stopped to do a side instance and when I came out…ugh.

I found myself in a nearly empty overflow. I tried reloading the zone multiple times but wound up in the empty overflow each time. There were so many mobs and they respawned so quickly the few players fighting to the top finally had to just resort to making a mad dash upwards. Level 1 was pretty easy. Level 2 wasn’t too bad. But level 3 was awful.

I was on a minion necro and those minions saved my life, absorbing hits and restoring health for me. I tried helping a few players up but eventually there were so many mobs everywhere I resorted to just running past the hordes of mobs like everyone else. I kept passing downed and dead players until I somehow managed to get to the top with very little health left. Rest in pieces to everyone I had to pass.

The instanced combat against the final boss at the top was fun though. I did it solo and it kept me entertained without being overly difficult.

Well that’s frustrating to hear. I was hoping to bring my lvl 36 Ele into the new content for good XP and fun group play……

ghost.3208:

That’s why you don’t stop to revive others unless it’s in the open world, if someone dies from zerging this kind of events then they should be left there >.>

Wow, just wow. So rather than help someone, you would just run past them ? Amazing. See ArenaNet. This is the kind of player you are creating by insisting that the only way to complete something is to zerg it.

I dont mind hard content, I dont mind dying. However this zerg mentality where the only way to do something is to run around aimlessly is killing the game for me. I had high hopes for this event, I was looking forward to it.

Honestly it was the world boss updates that’ve chipped away at the ‘res anyone whenever you can’ idea. Now with bosses like Teq, fire ele and Golem Mk 2 it’s easier to tell someone to res at a WP rather than taking the time to res them and probably get targeted or at least waste a bunch of dpsing time. The zerg on my server will almost always res a downed player.

Finally got past the third level, but still a super frustrating no fun experience. Stopped to help everyone I could… and every single one would later leave me to die. ANET, please do not design content predicated on the kindness of strangers, for they have none.

The zerg run up the tower was pretty bland but I did like the mini instances, those were fun.
The end instance as well was fairly fun although, not very difficult.
For the record I ran my zerker up the whole tower and didn’t have any issues.

Just another example of how the “rewards” mindset is destroying this game.

They really need to work on gameplay that centers on deep, complex & fun combat as well as a more powerful story which improves on our immersion within the game.

Leave the gear and achievements for other grinding MMOs.

You make things too easy, ppl whine.

You make things too hard, ppl whine.

You make things at moderate difficulty, ppl whine cause it’s boring

Blackmoon.6837:

Just another example of how the “rewards” mindset is destroying this game.

They really need to work on gameplay that centers on deep, complex & fun combat as well as a more powerful story which improves on our immersion within the game.

Leave the gear and achievements for other grinding MMOs.

To be honest, the rewards for this content aren’t that great. Nothing like Ascended drops from Tequatl..

Seeing as many people are talking about how hard this content is, perhaps the players should start working on their strategy and mechanics in order to survive longer. If people grouped, stayed together, dodged and fought together, I have a funny feeling the tower would be slightly easier for them as opposed to solo runners and the edge of the zerg.

Sometimes, just sometimes, we need to look at the community and not the developers.

They need to be a lot less spammy with their AOE. I do try to rez people, and I rezzed many going up the tower. For most of the run people really stuck together and tried to keep the whole group up.

It fell apart when we hit a point where the entire floor was carpet bombed with red circles. People were getting mowed down through no real fault of their own, and if you tried to rez them you were just going to get focused with AOE. At that point people really had little choice but to sprint through and hope they were lucky.

Vol.5241:

You make things too easy, ppl whine.

You make things too hard, ppl whine.

You make things at moderate difficulty, ppl whine cause it’s boring

Pretty much, which is why legitimate complaints get ignored.

If the environment is oh-so-terrible in there, how did my 11,000 HP thief wearing level 53 yellow gear get to the top in under 15 minutes?

I soloed the whole thing with my Guardian and got the pet from the achievement solo. Just grab some PVT gear.

It is sad how a group of 5 people can’t reliably make it very far. The elites just take so long to kill that generally the respawns are up before you down them.

But you have pretty much described the experience I’ve had so far. The lower floors are pretty easy to solo run through to the chambers and such. But doing that is just asking to drag mobs onto a person. :/ I really had no trouble till up to the 4th floor where I ended up in an overflow after a chamber where no one had gotten as far as me. So I had to pretty much wait for everyone to catch up.

I’m holding out hope it will be better later in the evening/weekend. But that doesn’t make the problem any better.

Edit: Well after relogging enough I managed to get through the last little area to the top. :S That was kind of sad I had to run and leave so many people behind. It seems too impossible for my server to get past the beginning in floor 3 lol. That and no one bothers to wait for a group to form so people are just rushing through.

I really like the dungeon and chambers though. And its quite fun to do if you get a good group to get through the areas.

Are you guys playing on the worse servers ?

When the event started, the zerg formed and waited around for people to complete the chambers before moving on, while clearing every monster.
Now people are running to the top, but they do help each other along the way. Just talk to others and form groups to get up fighting or running.

Missywink.7162:

ghost.3208:

That’s why you don’t stop to revive others unless it’s in the open world, if someone dies from zerging this kind of events then they should be left there >.>

Wow, just wow. So rather than help someone, you would just run past them ? Amazing. See ArenaNet. This is the kind of player you are creating by insisting that the only way to complete something is to zerg it.

I dont mind hard content, I dont mind dying. However this zerg mentality where the only way to do something is to run around aimlessly is killing the game for me. I had high hopes for this event, I was looking forward to it.

lol don’t worry, I’m still and always have revived as many people as I can, but as I said in this kind of events sometimes you can’t stop to revive others because you’re just placing a big red target icon on your head.

Sometimes the option is not available and they have to waypoint back (try to revive someone as a non-thief with a group of foes near them), it also happens on some of the world events but people expect others to revive them while the boss is still at 95% health and they can perfectly run back to the fight…

And just in case I’m talking about the defeated state, not downed mode… Best of luck to anyone doing the event!

Well, I have to admit that I’ve now seen what some of the others were saying. People are leaving others behind some of the time, at least partially because the AOE and mob damage in the mazes are WAY WAY overdone.

Qaelyn.7612:

Vol.5241:

You make things too easy, ppl whine.

You make things too hard, ppl whine.

You make things at moderate difficulty, ppl whine cause it’s boring

Pretty much, which is why legitimate complaints get ignored.

If the environment is oh-so-terrible in there, how did my 11,000 HP thief wearing level 53 yellow gear get to the top in under 15 minutes?

read that again…. THIEF. Amazing mobility and stealth. Sure you may have low hp, but when you can bypass mobs like nothing, then mobility is not even a factor. Unless you mean to tell me you used s/d #3, roll for initiative, withdraw, shadowstep, and infil. signet all the way to top. If so, slow clap

RedStar.4218:

Are you guys playing on the worse servers ?

When the event started, the zerg formed and waited around for people to complete the chambers before moving on, while clearing every monster.
Now people are running to the top, but they do help each other along the way. Just talk to others and form groups to get up fighting or running.

Overflows, Europe, end result is that 2 thirds are talking languages i have no chance understanding, much less try to organize a coherent zerg.

Yeah it seems like they’re incapable of creating content that doesn’t just encourage mindless zergs.

There are some cool new events to farm and a really easy meta. The cinematic is good, we got some cool skins and there are a couple interesting champ mobs and instances to farm. Why do you guys always QQ about everything?

Better yet, what do you think would make “A worthwhile LS.”

If people were going up the tower in groups and meeting up for champion events then yes it would be fun. But after the first day players won’t do that. Solo players will see all the elites wandering around and stick to the zerg, and be in big trouble if they want to split from the zerg. The zerg will rule as the events will not scale up in a challenging fashion.

Thankfully lots of players seem to like following zergs.

Specific Complaint: Elite Hallucinatory Grenadier

Wow. This thing is insane. The huge health of an elite, coupled with massive dps, massive area, spammed AOE.

Yeah I tried to rez at first as well.. just to join them in death. I have to run past now unless a zerg is around. I feel bad about it but no choice. I have also used 2 resurrection stones on this event alone so I would not have to try to race back to where I was.