Guild Wars 2

I am thrilled we are getting a new dungeon. It will be a blast. I loved Aetherblade Retreat and the last one was really cool too. Here’s to hoping we get some real head way into Scarlet’s story with this one. I need a twist that makes all the pieces of what she is doing finally come together. I am ready for a milestone in this story.

I am also ready for some other things: Rewards that aren’t minis, dye packs, shoulders or gloves. Especially not shoulders and gloves that are the price of a full set of armor on the gem shop when combined. Where is the rest of the set for 800 gems? Do I get a copy for PvE and PvP for that price? Do they unlock in my Achievement panel so I can use them as many times as I want?

I am starting to feel like the gem shop keeps grabbing a little more than it should at my wallet with each release. It started to really show its hand when there were no recipes for the Magi’s, Dire and other inscriptions but instead we have to use Black Lion Salvage kits that can only be gotten through RNG or gems if we want those stats.

I am all for the Gem shop, but we keep repeating the same themes of items. I have zero problems spending 500-800 gems on FULL sets of armor. I have done it multiple times. Releasing shoulders and gloves for 400 when it used to be we got those in game fora meta reward is perplexing and I am being diplomatic saying that. If you release that stuff in the future for that price, it would be taken way better if it unlocked in my “Skins” panel in my Achievements Tab and I could use as many as I wanted for my account. The value, perceived or real just isn’t there for me this time.

question is is the dungeon permanent or not. Anet’s monthly releases can be considered both adds good and bad content however it seams like a lot of wasted effort on there part to make the content temporary. Also “living story” would be towards there benefit to make permanent changes to the world to reflect impact of current events.

where did you see that its a dungeon?

Dr Ritter.1327:

where did you see that its a dungeon?

The content is repeating themes now. We had Aetherblade Retreat, Flame and Frost dungeon, etc. We are going inside the tower. It will be an instance. It will have achievements and we get the Gas Mask skin for completing it.

rjnemer.7816:

LOL, you actually think they are going to put a dungeon in? Its going to be another achievement whoring update with minimal substance. And if by some small miracle it has a dungeon, it will be temporary.

and i said as much by citing the aetherblade retreat etc. their dungeons are super fun. a few of them are also being brought back as fractals before the year is over.

Let’s not decide how great or terrible it will be until we actually play it.

Well it doesn’t seem to be exactly a dungeon, but it does have dungeon-esque elements.

Supposedly the inside of the tower is open world while there are randomized instances inside of it.

Molten Facility and Aetherblade Retreat were quite enjoyable. MF especially.

Twilight Assault path was… not, though. IMO, anyway. It took far too long and had some problematic bugs, and was perhaps a little too difficult for the dungeon-inexperienced that you can expect Living Story releases to draw in.

Hopefully the tower leans more towards the former and not the latter.

I’m sure its dungeon-esque. But it does sound more like a Gauntlet then anything. Could just be poor wording. Then again it could easily be another Fractals with a different art design.

I’d rather see another MF over another TA/Aetherblade dungeon. Just because in LS situations it brings in a lot of people that don’t normally dungeon. I think MF was better difficulty wise, it was learn-able and not overly long.

Will be interested to see what comes of it in a week though.

Iason Evan.3806:

Dr Ritter.1327:

where did you see that its a dungeon?

The content is repeating themes now. We had Aetherblade Retreat, Flame and Frost dungeon, etc. We are going inside the tower. It will be an instance. It will have achievements and we get the Gas Mask skin for completing it.

We went inside the Crown Pavilion.

It was an open “instance” of sorts. Within the giant hole, and made larger than what it appears in the open world. I bet the tower will be the same – a separate zone that all players can join or leave.

Just because we “enter the tower” doesn’t mean it’s going to be an instanced dungeon.

Accpording to one twitter comment the tower interior will not be an instance but there will be small instances within.

Sounds a bit like the Queens Jubilee together with the Queens Gauntlet

It sounds like a randomised dungeon which is RNGed for anyone going into it. It’ll probably be like Resilias’s Labyrinth from Vindictus if anyone played that game.

Where did it say “new dungeon”?

This patch looks like another copy paste zerg fest with some new daily big boss that Scarlet created that will just become the new Karka Queen.

Another bombardment of grindy achievements that have you kill or collect [insert number] of things.

More gem store items.

sigh…

I’m ready to be disappointed. I really think you all need to take a step back and quit taking things so literally, of course it’s not a dungeon, like cof or coe or arah etc. It’s an instance like molten facility or aetherblade retreat, which are very dungeon-esque, it sounds like it’ll be interesting, but I’m not holding my breath.
And on the other point the op made, I would have to say they’re really focusing entirely too much on the cash shop, new armor and stuff is great, just shoulders and gloves is questionable, to myself at least. However, with how this game is proceeding to be, I don’t feel comfortable giving them a dime more.

If it was a dungeon they would have plastered the word NEW DUNGEON all over that page… however there was not a single use of the word dungeon.

I can say with 95% certainty that this will therefore NOT be a dungeon.

Maybe Anet will make us pay 100 gems just to enter the dungeon :P

WTB Real Content. Seriously. Ill buy it.

I want to see what Marjory and Lady Kasmeer do when they get inside, I really enjoyed their background dialog about the tower while they’re waiting for the other forces to breach it.

The last dungeon was great aside from a few head scratching mechanics (seriously, guys, shooting oil slicks onto walls?), and I’m sure the content here will be fun as well.

Walhalla.5473:

Accpording to one twitter comment the tower interior will not be an instance but there will be small instances within.

Sounds a bit like the Queens Jubilee together with the Queens Gauntlet

Awesome. This makes sense, which makes me happy. Scarlet is a major threat, it would make no sense if just a handfull of adventurers to get in to go after her (that’s what bothered me about the other dungeons). Storming the tower and then splitting in many groups to explore it, wreck it and look for clues makes sense.

I can’t wait!

I see spores all over the place. Here is where that new overpriced 25sp skill comes in play. We’ll constantly have to spam it to make it all the way to the top or die trying. Buy it, or fail!

Oh boy!
It sounds like we will be zerging inside today boys and girls!

Gabby.3205:

Walhalla.5473:

Accpording to one twitter comment the tower interior will not be an instance but there will be small instances within.

Sounds a bit like the Queens Jubilee together with the Queens Gauntlet

Awesome. This makes sense, which makes me happy. Scarlet is a major threat, it would make no sense if just a handfull of adventurers to get in to go after her (that’s what bothered me about the other dungeons). Storming the tower and then splitting in many groups to explore it, wreck it and look for clues makes sense.

I can’t wait!

Major threat? more like, annoying brat.
“storming the tower and then splitting-” lol nope, braindead zerg incoming. mash dat 1-key. also, grindy achievements.
finally, “content”.

Love,
Ayson

AysonCurrax.3254:

Gabby.3205:

Walhalla.5473:

Accpording to one twitter comment the tower interior will not be an instance but there will be small instances within.

Sounds a bit like the Queens Jubilee together with the Queens Gauntlet

Awesome. This makes sense, which makes me happy. Scarlet is a major threat, it would make no sense if just a handfull of adventurers to get in to go after her (that’s what bothered me about the other dungeons). Storming the tower and then splitting in many groups to explore it, wreck it and look for clues makes sense.

I can’t wait!

Major threat? more like, annoying brat.
“storming the tower and then splitting-” lol nope, braindead zerg incoming. mash dat 1-key. also, grindy achievements.
finally, “content”.

Love,
Ayson

It is a major threat in the story, yes. That’s how the characters see her, so that’s what she is. What she is to the players do not matter.
No my dear, there will be instanced areas inside of the tower. We will storm the tower and then groups will enter that instanced areas, if the explanation given on the post I originally quoted is correct.
Please, read before complaining

I’m not holding my breath or anything. If most of new Tower content is not instanced, then it will be zerg-able. Design style of rooms showed in preview don’t really appeal to me, mostly the last tree-like.
The only good thing I see about that update, from the picture preview, is that may be the end of Scarlete’s bringing all her forces, incluing Molten Alliance even.
But I’m not hyped nor for game mechanics or even more about anything related to any lore behind it.

its not a dungeon, its another room vector, like queen’s guantlet

I wish this will be available for single player too.

Charak.9761:

its not a dungeon, its another room vector, like queen’s guantlet

That part actually has me skeptically excited, I liked the pavilion a lot, the solo fights were fun and the zerg below was able to decide on two bosses and then go back to farming destroyers. The bosses were neat though and it wasn’t too uncoordinated of a zerg with there being only 2 bosses at a time.

I very much doubt the tower will be anything like that, but the foundation of it has my attention.

I will be happy if:
1- there are no bugs;
2- the challenge does not consist in kiting oozes;
3- the encounters are not tank and spank.

EDIT: I would also love to see an instance in which you can go max 2 players. I like the idea of a duo combo. Just my two cents.

Of course there are going to be bugs.

A Massive Headache.1879:

Charak.9761:

its not a dungeon, its another room vector, like queen’s guantlet

That part actually has me skeptically excited, I liked the pavilion a lot, the solo fights were fun and the zerg below was able to decide on two bosses and then go back to farming destroyers. The bosses were neat though and it wasn’t too uncoordinated of a zerg with there being only 2 bosses at a time.

I very much doubt the tower will be anything like that, but the foundation of it has my attention.

Queens guantlet was actually really good the only part about it that sucked was

-Red floors
-Far away if you die
-bad rewards (unless you abuse the 5 gambit against t3 boss before nerf)

I actually am really enjoying myself in this. I was skeptical. The story isn’t propelled far enough, but all of the game play is top notch. Well done ArenaNet!