The Norn origin

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Posted by: mricezombie.4560

mricezombie.4560

First of all i want to make clear that Norn have different origins than the humans, because the gods brought the humans to tyria and the norn were already located in Tyria. But why do the norn look like humans, only just alot taller.
The kodan themeselves believe the norn are descendants from them. The wiki says this:

_Little is known of the history of the norn before they were first encountered in Guild Wars: Eye of the North.

The origin of the norn race isn’t known, but there are theories. The kodan believe the norn may be descended from a group of kodan hunters separated from the tribes during the great storm, becoming lesser creatures for giving up being bears_

further the wiki says this about the great storm:

The great storm was long-lasting blizzard and a pivotal point in the history of the kodan race. Lasting for many seasons, it caused starvation and discontent among the kodan, eventually resulting in a small group leaving to look for hunting grounds further south. Though the kodan may not actively claim to be related to the norn, some Voice believe that this early splinter group of kodan may be the origin of the norn people

What if this has happened to the group of kodan. They came down south, devasted from the storm, questioning their faith in their god Koda, because of the torment from the storm. Finally after a long and painfull journey they reached a place south with peace and they saw the fresh to tyria humans. The humas were being helped and taken care of by the six human gods. These new gods made them question their own god, why would they be tormented for no reason (the kodan religoin is strongly about balance) and why do these six gods help the humans. This made them abondon their old religion and trying to transform into human-like beings just to get into these six new gods favor.
After a long period of time the Kodan had found out that no matter what they did or tried, they would never be accepted or noticed by these new gods. The six gods only cared about their own (made) humans. Stuck In this permanent transformation there was no way back. Because they betrayed their old god koda, they would never be accepted again by the other kodan. Going further the transformation meant to give in by these new gods, because of the high pride level of the koda they would never be able to do that.

After the series of events a new race was born: the Norn.
It would be too shamefull to let the kodan and other races know of their mistakes. So the norn were hiding in the mountains, waiting till time passed, trying to forget their mistakes, hoping everybody else forget about them and what they really were.
In the meantime they started having faith in the spirits of the wild, because the animals on the hunting grounds had never abonded them and this is still their religion nowdays.

This theory would also explain some things about the norn and koda. For example why is bear the great spirit? (because they are still bear like creatures, but just with a more human form)
And why do only the Kodan voices (kodan priests) speak of norn as descandants of the kodan (because Koda was the only one besides the group of kodan that knew that the group of kodan had abandoned him and transformed into the norn. He only knows the thruth and tells it to his voices)

If somebody disagrees with my theory or has his own theory i’m glad to read it.

ps. sorry for the long post in combination with my bad english. It’s not my native language.

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Posted by: Lindelle.3718

Lindelle.3718

or has his or her own theory i’m glad to read it.

Ahem!

Actually, I don’t have another theory exactly… I used to think harder about these things but would just bum myself out knowing that the lore was probably not thought of that far out. This could or couldn’t be, I dunno, but here I go digressing…

ANYWAY! I can’t recall where I heard or read this, so I’m sorry I don’t have something to cite, but from what I understood, the norn believe the kodan descended from the norn just as the kodan believe the norn descended from the kodan. Maybe jotun involve both! Who knows!

You have a good theory, but as a biased norn lover, and as “jolly” as they are… I don’t much care for the depressing “exiled”, “horrid”, “seeking forgiveness” tribe that your theory seemed to suggest, unless I am just reading too much into it.

Lindelle Ulfsvitr – Norn Ranger
“Walk with the pack. In the eyes of Wolf, we are all brothers and sisters.”

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Posted by: mricezombie.4560

mricezombie.4560

hahahaha sorry i forget the “or her”, but yhea the jotun are indeed an intersting tribe as well, we also don’t know much about them too, but i believe that the jotun are a really different race, because they already exist in the norse mythology. Jötunn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6tunn

I really hope that the norn and all the other northern races willl get into the spotlight some day. I’m a big norn fan too and norse mythology in general

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Posted by: Adventurous Cookie.1658

Adventurous Cookie.1658

Thruln the Lost is a jotun storyteller that can be found in the Great Lodge.
“My people have walked these mountains since before the humans came, since before the gods put limits on magic, since before the dragons slept, since the Age of Giants.”
Player: Tell me about the gods.
“The gods once favored the giants, the jotun. They gave us magic and blessed us with knowledge of mechanical and magical things.”
Player: What happened?
“The gods threatened to take magic from us. They were afraid we would use it against them. Our confusion was great, and the jotun kings began to fight among themselves.”
Player: And then?
“The gods became unhappy with us. They took magic away from us and handed it in measured bites to their favorite races. My people have been sliding deeper and deeper into darkness ever since.”
Player: Tell me about the arrival of the humans.
“The humans came in boats from across the great water. At first, they kept to the shores, but then they spread across the land and into our mountains.”
Player: What then?
“In the beginning, humans lived like grawl. The gods had not yet noticed them. Their magic was primitive: fire, earth, air and water. My jotun ancestors helped them survive.”
Player: What happened next?
“Humans collected on the high plains. Tribes became settlements. Settlements became a kingdom. And that was when the gods noticed them and betrayed the jotun.”
Player: Tell me about the dragons.
“Stories of the ancient time of dragons are rare, mostly forgotten. When I was young, an old jotun came to our fire, and told us about a time before the dragons slept.”
Player: What was it like?
“Magic was wild. The dragons were merciless conquerers. They had the entire world under their talons.”
Player: What happened?
“They went to sleep, and the surviving races rebuilt. My jotun ancestors formed kingdoms. Giants, like the jotun and the norn, grew powerful. The chaos was tamed—until now.”
Player: What is the Age of Giants?
(to norn character)
“The Age of Giants was a time when all the world’s giants ruled Tyria. Your people, my people, we had magic like you will never know. Wherever we walked, the ground shook.”
Player: “My norn ancestors too?”
“The other races looked up to the norn and the jotun. We were superior to all other races, and we were gaining on the gods.”
Player: What happened?
“The Age of Giants ended when magic was stolen from us. You norn turned to your Spirits of the Wild to redeem your strength and self-respect. We jotun have had no one and nothing to pull us from the quicksand.”
(to non-norn character)
“It was a time when the norn and the jotun were not like you see us today. Our kingdoms were the most advanced in the entire world. We protected and defended other races.”
Player: What happened?
“You won’t understand. We had everything taken from us, and in out confusion at the betrayal, we lost all hope of ever being the great culture that we once were.”
Player: What about the norn?
“The norn have come far. Their Spirits of the Wild returned much of their dignity, heroism, and power to them. They are what I wish the jotun had become.”

Anet, you’re breaking my heart! You’re going down a path I cannot follow!

(edited by Adventurous Cookie.1658)