Guild Wars 2

pls nerf i mean seriously put that on a war gurdian theif any of those and its just rediculous lol

Could you please be more specific as to which elite is “OP” and why?

Rofl good point my bad! The Snow Leopard dash and invis is crazy u can get away or catch up to anything in a blink of an eye ive seen warrior run 1v10 all day with this and the cast time must be instant cause im not noticing a telegraph to interrupt unless its a bug but still amazing elite just a little too amazing lol

:,( 1v10 all day because of this elite that lasts for 30 seconds, has a half second cast time and a 240 second cooldown? If you can’t take out someone who is using this elite because of it, then take a look at your own playstyle before crying to nerf.

well then i would have to sit down and look at the 9 other play styles from the people around me (high burst dps theif with high burst mez x2 and ele guardian some warriors) and realize that nothing is wrong sept the elite that im talking bout just sounds like to me another bk trolling instead of being realistic so pls dont waste my time posting if ur just gonna troll! anyways besides the fact that u can travel that far while under stand stealth in the matter of seconds and laugh at cd time since ur gone in a flash and can tp after right after just makes it easy for most classes to disengage in a second might as well make a norn for every class if u want an easy mode button

If you can’t handle someone criticizing you for crying about something then get off the forums.

i came on here for constructive criticism and opinions on the subject not childish response go act like one else were

If a thief/warrior runs a high mobility build you can’t catch them anyway which means the elite doesn’t make any difference. Not sure about the guardian though…

I’m completely for, nerfing the elite skills only on norn thieves though. Everyone else should get a buff to that skill.

i just think the distance should be shortened cause u can make some ground with that move on a guradian

That’s the point of the skill OP. There are many skills that immobilize, cripple, and chill. Learn to play dude and QQ. Why is this in the Thief forum anyways?

You’re not guaranteed to be able to catch everyone you want to kill. Some skills are designed to help folks escape and reset fights. The fact that they work sometimes doesn’t mean the game is flawed, all the more so when you’re talking about an elite with a four minute cooldown.

Jory.9172:

That’s the point of the skill OP. There are many skills that immobilize, cripple, and chill. Learn to play dude and QQ. Why is this in the Thief forum anyways?

+1 i guess all QQ come down to thieves forum

if only ppl start to learn that if enemy run away consider it a win – that’s life

and pls nerf the alt+f4 skill as sometime i see ppl using it and going stealth for ages – too OP

1) The guy sacrificed his elite skill, which are normally far superior, for a skill that just lets you escape, with a huge cool down. I don’t see the problem with this, especially since warriors hardly have problems running without this skill. Unless you’re really just complaining that someone denied you an easy kill by using an unconventional tactic, in which case that’s your problem.

2) Re-read your first post OP, you’re the only one crying here. Also, posting a cry-post about stealth on the thief forums is not going to get you any sympathy, especially when your complaint doesn’t involve a thief.

L2P.

Edited for spelling.

Jugglemonkey.8741:

1) The guy sacrificed his elite skill, which are normally far superior, for a skill that just lets you escape, with a huge cool down. I don’t see the problem with this, especially since warriors hardly have problems running without this skill. Unless you’re really just complaining that someone denied you an easy kill by using an unconventional tactic, in which case that’s your problem.

2) Re-read your first post OP, you’re the only one crying here. Also, posting a cry-post about stealth on the thief forums is not going to get you any sympathy, especially when your complaint doesn’t involve a thief.

L2P.

Edited for spelling.

1) lets get this straight the simple attributes to this skill are easy to understand so the fact that it keeps getting referenced like a 4 min CD is irrelevant considering the fact that you will almost never have to use it more then once in a fight which is the basis to this conversation in the first place.

2) I like how i ask a opinion on a skill from other players ( True shouldn’t have posted in thief forum should have been in cultural) and it immediately leads to ur bad u apparently don’t have a 30 sec immobilize or stun or daze to counter them from casting stealth and dash for a crazy distance in one elite (10sec cd on these 2 skills which is fair)and ive tried it. Its not that hard to use and abuse it like resetting the entire match against someone so making it another 4 min to pop it again is very easy! and not just for a theif but all other classes except necro’s they suck at running rofl

3) Yes i did start with Nerf so ill give u that but a response like ur bad u suck so just get better and magically come up with a 30 sec cd to keep them down for the entire duration of the elite is laughable and hilarious but if u have a better answer to countering this affect then get better or waste all utilities on cd skills and run p/x or s/x and spam 2 to waste all my ini but at least they didn’t run away is not a good answer in my book so if anyone actual has some good advise besides ur bad then ur post would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. Since this get’s quoted enough might as well post it for everyone
Become the Snow Leopard
1/2 CT 240 sec CD (4min)
SKILLS
1. Frenzy “Slash repeatedly at foe.” 1 1/2 CT 0 CD
2. Growl "Let out a growl, weakening foes. " 1/2 CT 5 CD
3. Pounce "Leap onto foe [sic], crippling them. " 1 CT 10 CD
4. Dash “Hold down to dash at foes.” 3 3/4 CT 10 CD range= 1,600
5. Prowl “Use Snow Leopard’s grace to be unseen by your foes.” 0 CT 10 CD stealth= 5s
(My issue is not with stealth but range of Dash)

“1) lets get this straight the simple attributes to this skill are easy to understand so the fact that it keeps getting referenced like a 4 min CD is irrelevant considering the fact that you will almost never have to use it more then once in a fight which is the basis to this conversation in the first place.”

The cool down is relevant because it affects the balancing of the skill. Yes, it can only reasonably be used once in a fight, but it doesn’t do any real damage, limiting effective use to an escape. If your entire group focuses on damage with no CC, it’s gonna get away.

“2) I like how i ask a opinion on a skill from other players ( True shouldn’t have posted in thief forum should have been in cultural) and it immediately leads to ur bad u apparently don’t have a 30 sec immobilize or stun or daze to counter them from casting stealth and dash for a crazy distance in one elite (10sec cd on these 2 skills which is fair)and ive tried it. Its not that hard to use and abuse it like resetting the entire match against someone so making it another 4 min to pop it again is very easy! and not just for a theif but all other classes except necro’s they suck at running rofl”

You didn’t ask for an opinion, you called for a nerf, as you said below.

“3) Yes i did start with Nerf so ill give u that but a response like ur bad u suck so just get better and magically come up with a 30 sec cd to keep them down for the entire duration of the elite is laughable and hilarious but if u have a better answer to countering this affect then get better or waste all utilities on cd skills and run p/x or s/x and spam 2 to waste all my ini but at least they didn’t run away is not a good answer in my book so if anyone actual has some good advise besides ur bad then ur post would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. Since this get’s quoted enough might as well post it for everyone
Become the Snow Leopard
1/2 CT 240 sec CD (4min)
SKILLS
1. Frenzy “Slash repeatedly at foe.” 1 1/2 CT 0 CD
2. Growl "Let out a growl, weakening foes. " 1/2 CT 5 CD
3. Pounce "Leap onto foe [sic], crippling them. " 1 CT 10 CD
4. Dash “Hold down to dash at foes.” 3 3/4 CT 10 CD range= 1,600
5. Prowl “Use Snow Leopard’s grace to be unseen by your foes.” 0 CT 10 CD stealth= 5s
(My issue is not with stealth but range of Dash)[/quote]"

I don’t see anything in that set that breaks immobilise, a ranger could counter this by using their elite entangle, then using sick ‘em when they’ve been visible for a few seconds. If the range is the issue, try taking the steal range trait from trickery. If they use the dash then stealth, they are still in range of a short bow/shadowstep/steal combo, same as a warrior using greatsword. This means you have an opportunity to finish them.

Also, please consider punctuating your posts. People will be more willing to help if they can easily read the question :P

I will try to punctuate more often lol. Thank you for the advice!

I think it should be a little more balanced. Snow-Leopard form having both ‘stealth’ and ‘speed’ is very odd, and completely over-powered compared to the other three norn-forms.

It shouldn’t have both.

Tarn.1374:

I think it should be a little more balanced. Snow-Leopard form having both ‘stealth’ and ‘speed’ is very odd, and completely over-powered compared to the other three norn-forms.

It shouldn’t have both.

Eh. I would agree if norn had to pick only one but we have access to all of them. So a 30 point skill would make sense to be more useful. Right now no one is disadvantaged beyond thir own choosing of less powerful skills. Which no different than any other race.

Sort of true in that it lets norn do something that other races can’t, albeit at a cost. Kind of hate to call for a nerf on it, though, because there’s nothing else about the norn elites (any of them, not just snow leopard) that makes them worth using.

Here is the real issue:

Why are there classes where the elites suck so bad that snow leopard is better?

Don’t nerf snow leopard, buff class elite skills where appropriate.

Snow leopard is an amazing elite. Growl could use a change and Pounce could use some streamlining.

Don’t nerf an amazing elite because there are unamazing players in wvw.

Norn elites do not need a nerf. If its not in sPvP then there is no worry. WvW does not bother me either because there are too many players around. What I want is the extend the durations of the elite considering its long cool down. Norn is the number 1 reason I came from guild wars 1 to play guild wars 2.