Guild Wars 2

what’s up with the total immersion breaking makeup on female norn? I didn’t really think of posting about this before but after looking at norn faces the other day, I’m completely baffled. why not let humans have makeup while making norns look at least slightly natural.. you know so the lore isn’t completely botched.

I’m not sure where the cereal fits in, but I don’t see how it botches the lore to allow the female Norns to use makeup.

Makeup-O’s. Cereal is srsbsnz. Yeah, not really sure what the problem is though :P

They just need a big ol’ box of Norn Flakes.

Norn females are hot- I just wish my human characters could fill their shoes

Morrigan.2809:

Norn females are hot- I just wish my human characters could fill their shoes

(badumptish)
Very nice.

Why would norn women not wear makeup?
Norn are pretty big on the body paint. And while im no historian, I assume modern makeup originated from tribal markings and the like. So really, in GW its more likely the norns would use makeup and the humans not.

XelNigma.6315:

Why would norn women not wear makeup?
Norn are pretty big on the body paint. And while im no historian, I assume modern makeup originated from tribal markings and the like. So really, in GW its more likely the norns would use makeup and the humans not.

idk coz they have better things to do than smear crap all over their faces one hour a day every day?

Maybe they don’t have better things to do. It’s not like you have to take time away from playing your character to apply the makeup manually. So, what’s the big deal?

Makeup has been used in culture since before the days of Cleopatra in Egypt and the Roman Empire. Never underestimate the need to look pretty.

Can’t confirm it because no link is given but from yahoo answers:

What kind of makeup did vikings wear?

They made their own makeup from the juices of berries mixed with mud and animal fat. It was mainly worn to protect them from sunburn.

No matter what degree of truth it has pertaining to the Vikings, makeup has been in common use throughout history in various cultures and isn’t lore breaking.

I love my norn’s tattoos and makeup. shush…

Confirmed: OP is Al Gore, because he is super cereal about this topic.

How does something break lore if it comes down from ANet themselves?

Cinder.4865:

How does something break lore if it comes down from ANet themselves?

it is contradictory to otherwise established norn culture?

ProphetSword.5427:

Maybe they don’t have better things to do. It’s not like you have to take time away from playing your character to apply the makeup manually. So, what’s the big deal?

Makeup has been used in culture since before the days of Cleopatra in Egypt and the Roman Empire. Never underestimate the need to look pretty.

the norn project an image of “practicality and individual prowess above all”, having every.single.norn.face. plastered with makeup doesn’t really match this… I mean 1 or 2 would be fine, but there is no female norn face that has no makeup(well maybe the scarred one, but the lips look suspicious to me..)

It is only contradictory to assumtions about norn culture. That makeup may serve a practical purpose. like the Vikings using it to protect against sunburn. So making it pleasing to the eye when you already use it is a natural progression in any culture. there is nothing contradictory between practicality and individual prowess vs pleasing to the eye.

Also for all we know makeup could be part of the identity of that Norn.

“Hey did you see that one gal with half a blue face tear up all those Grawl?!”
“Oh yeah Linda Blueface, long ago she beat up a Minotaur and blueberries from her pie got on her face. Afterwards she started putting blue on herself and it became a thing.”

pullnointer.1476:

it is contradictory to otherwise established norn culture?

Others have already responded, but if ANet adds something, it’s obviously an addition to the lore, something we possibly didn’t know about before or has come into existence since the original Guild Wars.

Lore is not immutable, learn to accept change.

Cinder.4865:

pullnointer.1476:

it is contradictory to otherwise established norn culture?

Others have already responded, but if ANet adds something, it’s obviously an addition to the lore, something we possibly didn’t know about before or has come into existence since the original Guild Wars.

Lore is not immutable, learn to accept change.

it’s obviously an addition to the marketability of the game

Atlas.9704:

Also for all we know makeup could be part of the identity of that Norn.

“Hey did you see that one gal with half a blue face tear up all those Grawl?!”
“Oh yeah Linda Blueface, long ago she beat up a Minotaur and blueberries from her pie got on her face. Afterwards she started putting blue on herself and it became a thing.”

I’m not talking tattoos here.

Dustfinger.9510:

It is only contradictory to assumtions about norn culture. That makeup may serve a practical purpose. like the Vikings using it to protect against sunburn. So making it pleasing to the eye when you already use it is a natural progression in any culture. there is nothing contradictory between practicality and individual prowess vs pleasing to the eye.

yes, that’s why it looks like overdone modern western makeup.

pullnointer.1476:

Dustfinger.9510:

It is only contradictory to assumtions about norn culture. That makeup may serve a practical purpose. like the Vikings using it to protect against sunburn. So making it pleasing to the eye when you already use it is a natural progression in any culture. there is nothing contradictory between practicality and individual prowess vs pleasing to the eye.

yes, that’s why it looks like overdone modern western makeup.

“So making it pleasing to the eye when you already use it is a natural progression in any culture”

Dustfinger.9510:

pullnointer.1476:

Dustfinger.9510:

It is only contradictory to assumtions about norn culture. That makeup may serve a practical purpose. like the Vikings using it to protect against sunburn. So making it pleasing to the eye when you already use it is a natural progression in any culture. there is nothing contradictory between practicality and individual prowess vs pleasing to the eye.

yes, that’s why it looks like overdone modern western makeup.

“So making it pleasing to the eye when you already use it is a natural progression in any culture”

you are only insulting your own intelligence by assuming that I didn’t understand what you said the first time.

pullnointer.1476:

I’m not talking tattoos here.

Neither was I, because tattoos are permanent whereas she could just temporarily put something on her face to make herself stand out.
Makeup isn’t breaking the Norn immersion because it can be used to help someone stand out.

pullnointer.1476:

Dustfinger.9510:

pullnointer.1476:

Dustfinger.9510:

It is only contradictory to assumtions about norn culture. That makeup may serve a practical purpose. like the Vikings using it to protect against sunburn. So making it pleasing to the eye when you already use it is a natural progression in any culture. there is nothing contradictory between practicality and individual prowess vs pleasing to the eye.

yes, that’s why it looks like overdone modern western makeup.

“So making it pleasing to the eye when you already use it is a natural progression in any culture”

you are only insulting your own intelligence by assuming that I didn’t understand what you said the first time.

Please elaborate for my limited intellect. let’s see if your lauded superior intellect actually exists. What was the point of that western make up comment?

Atlas.9704:

pullnointer.1476:

I’m not talking tattoos here.

Neither was I, because tattoos are permanent whereas she could just temporarily put something on her face to make herself stand out.
Makeup isn’t breaking the Norn immersion because it can be used to help someone stand out.

that’s not at all what the normal vanilla face of norn looks like. the makeup female norn wear is bland, modern-looking and certainly don’t enable them to stand out. tattoos might on the other hand.

Huh, guess not.

Dustfinger.9510:

Huh, guess not.

pls go

No. This thread is open to the community for the discussion of makeup on Norn women. It’s only unpleasant for you now for two reasons. Mak-up isn’t lore breaking as you assumed, and you started insulting peoples intelligence. So if you had a real response to my point you should have gone with that. If not, don’t pretend to have a point when you know you don’t. and if you can’t counter a point, maybe your initial outlook of the make-up on norn, isn’t as accurate as you thought it was.

Dustfinger.9510:

No. This thread is open to the community for the discussion of makeup on Norn women. It’s only unpleasant for you now for two reasons. Mak-up isn’t lore breaking as you assumed, and you started insulting peoples intelligence. So if you had a real response to my point you should have gone with that. If not, don’t pretend to have a point when you know you don’t. and if you can’t counter a point, maybe your initial outlook of the make-up on norn, isn’t as accurate as you thought it was.

I just don’t care about you man, move on…

I’ll be here. In this open thread. I don’t require you to care about me. Maybe it’s you that needs to accept that you’re wrong about the lore.

He doesn’t want a discussion, he only wants people to agree with him. Just let the thread die, in my opinion.

Cinder.4865:

He doesn’t want a discussion, he only wants people to agree with him. Just let the thread die, in my opinion.

no, I’m just not going to argue with an idiot whose best course of action is ad hominem and who continues to talk kitten when I’m obviously ignoring him

More personal attacks because he has no actual arguement. This is weakness.

“An ad hominem (Latin for “to the man” or “to the person”¹), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an argument made personally against an opponent instead of against their argument"

yet. he’s ignoring me because MY best course of action is ad hominem. Lol. I’m astounded!

Dustfinger.9510:

More personal attacks because he has no actual arguement.

oh kitten you got me

I got you long before that ^ post but ……

pullnointer.1476:

no, I’m just not going to argue with an idiot whose best course of action is ad hominem and who continues to talk kitten when I’m obviously ignoring him

You’re doing it wrong.

Dustfinger.9510:

I got you long before that ^ post but ……

pullnointer.1476:

no, I’m just not going to argue with an idiot whose best course of action is ad hominem and who continues to talk kitten when I’m obviously ignoring him

You’re doing it wrong.

no, I’m actually laughing my kitten off right now so I must be doing fine eh?

Yeah, looks like everyone’s getting a good laugh. Guess we all win. GG

pullnointer.1476:

Dustfinger.9510:

No. This thread is open to the community for the discussion of makeup on Norn women. It’s only unpleasant for you now for two reasons. Mak-up isn’t lore breaking as you assumed, and you started insulting peoples intelligence. So if you had a real response to my point you should have gone with that. If not, don’t pretend to have a point when you know you don’t. and if you can’t counter a point, maybe your initial outlook of the make-up on norn, isn’t as accurate as you thought it was.

I just don’t care about you man, move on…

At this point you’re not helping your stance at all, in fact your further digging it’s grave.