Bauble Checklist for W2 Z3 (Storm Top)

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With the September 17th patch, it seems that Master of Baubles is finally fixed (or at least, I got it first try after trying after said patch….) There were no extra baubles hidden around, just those we’d found over the last two weeks. I’m sure a lot of you already have the route burned into your memory, but for those of you who were waiting for us to finish — here it is.

First off, I’ll list the bauble count by area. Given the nature of the first three areas (the first mountain), I may list some baubles in one area when they can be reached in an earlier area. I’ll have more detailed explanation of the locations later in the thread, anyways.

Area 1: 3x Blue, 2x Yellow
Area 2: 7x Blue, 1x Green, 4x Yellow, (CHEST: 2x Red)
Area 3: 4x Blue, 6x Yellow, 2x Purple, (CHEST: 1x Purple)
Area 4: 7x Blue
Area 5: 2x Blue
Area 6: 6x Blue, (CHEST: 1x Purple)
Area 7: 3x Blue, 1x Purple
Area 8: 5x Blue, 1x Yellow, (CHEST: 1x Purple)
Area 9: 4x Blue

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Another note about this zone is the difference between Infantile and Normal mode. One of the big problems here is that enemies do not drop keys in Infantile, and I have not been able to find a store after the 1st Mountain. Well, there’s the one in Area 7, but I haven’t been able to get a Key back from that store to anywhere it could be used. And once you’re in Area 4, you don’t seem to be able to reach the 1st Mountain again. Perhaps I’m missing something. Either way, that means that doing this run on Infantile currently requires me to take 2 extra Keys with me through the Teleporter into Area 4.

Normal Mode doesn’t have that limitation, and there’s not a huge amount of required backtracking. What backtracking there is can usually be readily dealt with by suiciding back to checkpoints. As such, I have no strong recommendation that you do this on Normal or Infantile mode. As is, there are some jumps required for baubles that seem extremely difficult, with Infantile Mode being no help for them. If you’re good enough for those, you probably won’t have much problem just finishing the zone in Normal.

With that said, let’s get on with the detailed list.

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Area 1
Our very first [BLUE BAUBLE] is right along the usual route, past what I’m going to call the Galekeeper for the rest of this thread.

Head up the giant head near the Owl tree to start with, then look back across the cliff. You can climb across some ledges to reach a [YELLOW BAUBLE]. Then, if you climb back up to the top of the giant head and look down and to the right, you’ll see another [YELLOW BAUBLE] behind a tree. Drop down to grab it.

The Raccoons nearby will lead you into the Forest Maze, but don’t worry about following them too closely: you want to hug the left wall instead. You’ll find a [BLUE BAUBLE] nestled in a little snowy alcove. There’s also a secret in this area: if you continue along the left wall, you’ll come to two Gatekeepers (closed mouths — you’ll learn to recognise them) in the wall. The rightmost one won’t open from this side, but the leftmost one will respond to the Gatekeeper Lullaby. Play it to reveal a passage that you can climb up. This leads through a rather convoluted route that eventually takes you past some Polar Bears to a bombable wall, that leads you to inside a Gatekeeper just outside the Raccoon Stump. All that for nothing? Well, maybe there was a dig site on the way or something….

Back to the giant head, and once you get to the icy area above it, search the inner nooks for two Bombable Walls that lead to the same area. Again, nothing much in here, but at least it’s another secret for the collection.

After dispatching the Polar Bear above, look behind and to the right to see a [BLUE BAUBLE] hovering on a nearby pillar. You may need to use the Whip in midair to snag this one. Alternatively, a Dodge Jump can give you enough distance to get there.

Finally, you’ll come to a nice open cave mouth that contains a Shop. It sells the Torch, which is required to progress any further. If you’re on Infantile, then you might also want to buy a Key.

Area 2
The very first thing you come across in this area is a Polar Bear guarding a Chest, which contains [2 RED BAUBLES]. After that, we need to drop down into the Banana area and pick up [2 YELLOW BAUBLES]. The first is quite well hidden (thanks to Ayrilana for pointing it out to me), but is easy to get to if you start at the Chest, and look west towards the mountainside. You should see two pillars that you can walk between, and a small platform sticking out behind the rightmost pillar. Stand on that platform and look to your left, and you’ll see a gap between the leftmost pillar and the rock wall in front of you. Jump down there, and follow the path round. The first bauble will be just below you as you emerge from the passage. The second bauble is a lot easier to find, and is in plain sight as you dispatch the Bananas patrolling the ground. Finally, there’s a Secret Shop behind a Bombable Wall nestled in a corner alcove.

The next part involves a row of four Galekeepers. There are [4 BLUE BAUBLES] dotting the path across to collect first. After you have them all, backtrack so that you’re between the first and second Galekeepers, and then drop off the ledge below for another [BLUE BAUBLE]. Then walk further in to drop down to a ledge that gives you a choice: drop forwards or drop left. Opening both Gatekeepers from the inside might count as individual Secrets, but for bauble purposes, we want to drop to the left. Open the Gatekeeper to reveal a [YELLOW BAUBLE] (the one visible from the Raccoon Stump, in case you were wondering how to get to it). However, I wasn’t able to find a way out of there without dying….

If you’re playing Infantile, you may want to buy another Key while you’re back at the checkpoint.

Back on to the usual path, you’ll find a [BLUE BAUBLE] behind you immediately after using the Teleporter.

Finally, we reach the long climb inside the mountain. There’s a [BLUE BAUBLE], [GREEN BAUBLE] and [YELLOW BAUBLE] to be collected here as you ascend, which should be pretty easy if you’re on Infantile.

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Area 3
If you bought a Key, then drop it off at the start of this area. You won’t need it for a bit.

The first [BLUE BAUBLE] is somewhat easy to miss, even though it’s on the normal route. When you trigger the Checkpoint and either use a Shortcut Cloud or the Portal Block to teleport up to the nearby window, keep an eye for a ledge to the right as you fall. The bauble is half-embedded in the rock, but will be collected if you stand on it.

Another [BLUE BAUBLE] is located after you use the Teleporter on the Goat’s mountain. You can jump to the Goat’s mountain from the Shortcut Clouds and make your way up to the Teleporter, or just take the normal route through the 1st Galekeeper Portal Block puzzle.

The third [BLUE BAUBLE] is after you finish with the 2nd Galekeeper Portal Block puzzle, where you jump through a window, collect the bauble, open a Gatekeeper from the inside back to the Checkpoint and unlock a new Teleporter. This Teleporter leads to what we’ll call the Summit, which is the series of platforms surrounding the Checkpoint that make up the peak of this mountain. You’ll note that you can climb to the right (which leads to some Bananas and later a Polar Bear), or to the left (which is a faster way to the final Teleporter of this area).

First, head right from the Summit to a spiked area with a couple of Bananas. A [YELLOW BAUBLE] is located in the center. Next, descend onto the next area with another couple of Bananas. There’s a window nearby you can enter to unlock another Gatekeeper at the Checkpoint that reveals a Chest containing a [PURPLE BAUBLE]. A good time to use that Key we stashed.

There’s another secret in that place where the last two Bananas were. Behind the pillar you can climb up to reach a cloud, there’s an oddly colored wall that can be bombed. Entering it sends you plummeting down to the Torch Shop. However, if you push forward a bit as you fall, you’ll hit a pillar in the center of the chamber. From here, you can climb up some ledges to a bombable wall (another secret!) Score the secret, but don’t explore the area beyond just yet — pull back to the Torch Shop instead. If you’re on Normal, a suicide is probably in order. If you’re on Infantile, pick up another Key while you’re there and get ready to run back. Drop the key off at the checkpoint. (Thanks to Niodyne for pointing out the additional secret here.)

Back at the Summit, continue anti-clockwise around the area to reach the Polar Bear. There’s another [BLUE BAUBLE] here. After that, drop off the ledge behind the bear. You should land on some snowy ground. Follow this down several more small drops until you’re on a small square platform with nothing but a long drop left. Face the wall, and drop off to your left. You should land on an icy platform with a Gatekeeper around the corner. Play the Lullaby to open it and reveal [3 YELLOW BAUBLES]. Then head back out and to the right around the corner to a lower ledge. There’s another Gatekeeper at the far end of the ledge — play another Lullaby to get a [PURPLE BAUBLE].

Once again we have to either suicide or climb again. If you’re on Infantile… go fetch another Key and drop it off at the Checkpoint.

The Summit again, and this time climb up to your left. If you look out over the edge in front of you as you climb, you’ll see another tower below you with a window in it. Drop down towards it and enter. Open up the Gatekeeper from the inside and then start traversing the ledge to your right, hugging the wall. You’ll find an Ice Wall there that you should burn down to reveal a [PURPLE BAUBLE]. If you let the Ice Wall reform after getting the bauble and then burn it from the inside, you should get teleported up to the Gatekeeper as well. Which is interesting, but not really worthwhile to us: probably faster to commit suicide for checkpoint (No, we don’t actually need another Key now….)

We’re almost done with this area, so pick up one of the Keys and head once more to the Summit. We’re heading for the 2nd Mountain, which is avaialble through the Teleporter at the top of this area, but we’ll be taking a slight detour first. Climb up to the left again so that you’re on the midway platform between the two Teleporters. Look down over the far edge to the left of the uppermost Teleporter’s platform, and you’ll see a long drop down inbetween the walls, with a [YELLOW BAUBLE] at the bottom. Falling down here will lead you to an interior area patrolled by a few Polar Bears and a Banana at the very bottom. Once you get down there, a little exploring will get you another [YELLOW BAUBLE] and a Teleporter — which like the one at the top of the Summit, will also take you to the 2nd Mountain.

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So now that we’re at the 2nd Mountain with a Key in our hand, you should drop off the key, kill the Polar Bear if you want, and then die. Once you’re back at the Checkpoint, grab the 2nd Key and go ahead and take the Teleporter at the very top of the mountain. We should now be at the end of this Area with two spare Keys. We’ll need these later on Infantile Mode.

Area 4
Immediately as you enter this area, there’s a secret behind a bombable wall near the Banana. Inside lies [6 BLUE BAUBLES].

There’s also another [BLUE BAUBLE] up on the ledge behind the Giant Icicle. On Normal, you’ll be up here anyways to bomb the Icicle down.

Area 5
A [BLUE BAUBLE] rest on the left side of the Spike Corridor.

If you play the Gatekeeper Lullaby about halfway down the Spike Corridor, a Gatekeeper on the right hand wall will open up. Heading down here leads to an Ice Maze. The correct route through the Maze starts with the 2nd to last Ice Wall, and is pretty straightforward after that — just go straight when you’re given a choice. You’ll arrive in a large open area that contains a horde of Bananas. Kill them all to open up a nearby Gatekeeper, which reveals a Generous Man who will teach you the Shatter Serenade. This song can dislodge Icicles and shatter Ice Walls without ever letting them regrow, and so is very very useful when used correctly. No baubles down here though.

One more [BLUE BAUBLE] lies near the Goat “Q-Bert” puzzle at the end of the area.

Area 6
Immediately after the Checkpoint, you’ll find another [BLUE BAUBLE] and a Chest that contains a [PURPLE BAUBLE]. Good time to backtrack for one of those Keys we stashed. You can also use Lullaby on the left hand Gatekeeper to reveal another passage that leads back down to the Spike Corridor.

Next is a long sloping climb, with [5 BLUE BAUBLES] scattered along it. Although you dropped down to reach this part, you can still backtrack if needs be: look for a series of ledges about 1/3rd of the way up on the left hand wall. This leads back to the Spike Corridor (same as the previous Gatekeeper we unlocked).

Area 7
After you get rid of the two Polar Bears at the start, play the Lullaby to open up the nearby Gatekeeper. Inside here are three barrels, and an invisible Teleporter sitting behind the center barrel. This Teleporter will take you to a platform in Area 8, and can make a good shortcut. Of course, you can also find ways down back to Area 7 from here, if you make the right jumps. Nothing important here other than another Secret.

If you’re on Infantile, then you should activate the next three Shortcut Clouds so that you have an easy way to backtrack (the first Cloud will block the normal way to backtrack). After that, return back to the start of Area 7 and ignore the Clouds, taking the Normal route climb. You’ll find [3 BLUE BAUBLES] as you ascend towards the Checkpoint. And while there’s another secret along the way, we’ll cover that in Area 8, because it really is a good idea to get that Checkpoint.

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Area 8
Now that we’re safely at the Checkpoint, we can backtrack to just after the Ice Wall. If you look off to the right and zoom all the way in, you’ll see a cloud. Now comes a very tricky bit. Get your Whistle equipped, and start jumping across the clouds. Due to low visibility, it’s difficult to know where you’re going. You’ll come across three ‘junctions’ where you have a choice of two clouds to jump to. On the 3rd cloud, pick the right one. On the 7th cloud, pick the left one. On the 9th cloud, pick left again. After a few more jumps, you’ll reach a cluster of 3 clouds in a tight circle. The idea now is to play the Gatekeeper Lullaby while jumping in between these three clouds. Take your jumps slow so that there’s enough time for the 1st cloud to reappear while you’re still on the 3rd.

Once you successfully play the Lullaby, you can jump into the open Gatekeeper mouth. You should probably play Shatter Serenade to get rid of most of the Icicles here, and then collect the [PURPLE BAUBLE] sitting in the center of the chamber. Next, bomb all three side of the chamber to reveal three secrets. The leftmost secret is a shop. The centermost secret contains another upgrade: Moto’s Finger. The rightmost secret contains what appears to be a death trap from which there is no escape. However, it seems there’s no escape from this chamber anyways: I could not find any invisible Teleporters, and one of the jumps back across the clouds is too high/far to reach. Still, we needed the bauble, and good thing we had that Checkpoint, yes?

Back at the Checkpoint, continue onwards. On the uppermost platform where the third Polar Bear is, there’s a [BLUE BAUBLE]. Once done, look at the rear of this little mountain-top for a series of clouds that leads to the real meat of Area 8.

You arrive at the western part of the Icicle Puzzle (check your map to get relative directions here — it shows where you’ve been even if it doesn’t show the layout of the zone). If you’ve learned the Shatter Serenade, then the puzzle is so much easier, as it allows you to create a good few shortcuts. But first, you should head in and around the corner to the south to find a Gatekeeper in the mid-western wall. Use Lullaby to open it and step into the Teleporter. You can now open up the Gatekeeper at our Area 8 Checkpoint, allowing us to get back here a lot faster if we fall. You can also play the Shatter Serenade around this part of the puzzle to dislodge a Giant Icicle that can act as a shortcut up to Area 9!

There are also [4 BLUE BAUBLES] scattered around the puzzle. You only need the Pushable Block that heads into the NE corner to get all of them, but pushing the rest can make it a bit easier. One is found near the NE Giant Icicle formation, two are on the path leading up to the SE Giant Icicle formation, and the last is on the southern pillar (the last place you jump to before finishing the puzzle).

Once you’ve gotten to the final bridge to the Checkpoint and have cleared out the dangers, it’s time to head back and retrieve the final Key. Return to the bridge and look off the edge to the right to find a chest containing a [PURPLE BAUBLE].

One last bauble to go in this area, and it’s a doozy. Starting from just above the chest, you need to climb up the path of ledges until you reach the top. This requires a good number of leaping around corners, and is very tricky. Once you make it, kill the 3 Bananas up there to give you some breathing space. Now, starting from where you originally got up to this level, you need to start climbing to the right, heading above where the Banana that was nearest the bridge was. This is a very nasty path, and seems to require a Dodge Jump early on. You’ll finally get to the top of the mountain you were circling, and should be able to see a way to jump down towards the last two Bananas. Go ahead and do so and deal with them. There’s a path to the right of the 2nd Banana that leads to a very elusive [YELLOW BAUBLE]. Once again, I hope there’s a better way to get to this one, but as it stands, it’s certainly one of the most difficult to get.

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Area 9
There are [4 BLUE BAUBLES] at the corners of the arena. There’s also a Gatekeeper to the back left that can be opened with the Lullaby, revealing some food.

Area 10
With just the Storm Wizard to go, there appear to be no baubles in this area. As soon as the chest appears after defeating his 2nd form, you should gain the achievement — assuming you haven’t missed one, or there isn’t any lingering bugs around.

Good luck on your quest!

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In area 3, by second block teleporter puzzle, you can go around the exterior of the cliff on the left side and find a frozen water fall with a purple bubble in it. May be one you are missing, didn’t notice it in your list.

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I’ve got it listed. There’s two ways down to that waterfall, and I chose to list the one that involves opening a nearby Gatekeeper from the inside, to better show how that Gatekeeper can be used, and because I think it counts as a Secret Area.

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Ahh, nm, I see it lower on in the paragraph now.

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Maybe you found this one (you didn’t list all the secrets), but… Area 3 when you bomb the wall that drops you from the top of the 750 bag shop, hold forward and land on the pillar, climb around, and you can bomb your way into the secret bear area. Pretty sure it counts as a secret.

/edit Yep, got all the secrets without opening that door you’re unsure about (I’m fairly certain I didn’t have a game with that open anyway)

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Good eye, that was indeed the secret I was missing. Thank you. I could’ve sworn I’d used the Log’s Song all in that area. Guess I got distracted by continually trying to make it back up to the visible cave mouth that you entered from.

Of course, this makes for two rather disappointing facts: (1) I’m missing a Bauble that is not simply resting in a ‘Secret Area’, and is likely in some out of the way place like some of those Yellow Baubles I’ve listed, and (2) there’s only one Store in the second half of the Zone, and we still don’t know how to get Keys from it to the Chests.

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About the shops, the place where you get the Moto Finger counts as one on Tribulation Mode, found the same shop entrances as ya and it did count for the achievement. Good luck finding that last bauble and good job on the guides right now, they’re very comprehensive and easy to follow, I’m sure they’re gonna help a lot of people.

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It’s not this one is it?

EDIT: Nevermind. That’s the goat mountain one

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Thank you for posting this, after I try a bit longer I’m going to read through it. I’m glad we have a discussion for 2-3, as this has been the most frustrating zone in terms of finding all the hidden areas.

It seems every time I follow an obscure ledge out to some unused platform, there is no hidden area for it. I use bombs all around it and nothing. How are you guys finding these, is there a different pattern where bombs are normally used? I can spot some, others not at all.

In terms of just playing and exploring I really love this zone. Almost pure platforming, so great.

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I don’t remember seeing this one on your list. It may be the one you’re missing since there’s only ONE way to get it and it’s not listed specifically.

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Also how do you know where do use the flute? Any cues for that?

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I don’t remember seeing this one on your list. It may be the one you’re missing since there’s only ONE way to get it and it’s not listed specifically.

Is this on the first mountain before you teleport to the other? or after that?

General area is helpful to narrow things down on if it was found or not.

Thank you for posting this, after I try a bit longer I’m going to read through it. I’m glad we have a discussion for 2-3, as this has been the most frustrating zone in terms of finding all the hidden areas.

It seems every time I follow an obscure ledge out to some unused platform, there is no hidden area for it. I use bombs all around it and nothing. How are you guys finding these, is there a different pattern where bombs are normally used? I can spot some, others not at all.

In terms of just playing and exploring I really love this zone. Almost pure platforming, so great.

Also how do you know where do use the flute? Any cues for that?

Just use the flute anywhere and everywhere pretty much. Although the cave wall above the first shop that you drop into did not appear with the secret song, but it was destructible anyway.

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I don’t remember seeing this one on your list. It may be the one you’re missing since there’s only ONE way to get it and it’s not listed specifically.

Here’s a imgur-album giving slightly more details on how to reach that bauble (in Infantile mode): http://imgur.com/a/AY0D3

Note that there are several ways of reaching the path to it, in Infantile it is very easy, and is what I have taken screenshots of to show. You can also hop up on the ledge to the left, then dodge-jump over to the lip that leads up to the bauble, or you can even drop down from far above, as you get to the top of the mountain.

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is this the confirmed missing one? has someone completed the zone then?

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I don’t remember seeing this one on your list. It may be the one you’re missing since there’s only ONE way to get it and it’s not listed specifically.

Is this on the first mountain before you teleport to the other? or after that?

General area is helpful to narrow things down on if it was found or not.

Thank you for posting this, after I try a bit longer I’m going to read through it. I’m glad we have a discussion for 2-3, as this has been the most frustrating zone in terms of finding all the hidden areas.

It seems every time I follow an obscure ledge out to some unused platform, there is no hidden area for it. I use bombs all around it and nothing. How are you guys finding these, is there a different pattern where bombs are normally used? I can spot some, others not at all.

In terms of just playing and exploring I really love this zone. Almost pure platforming, so great.

Also how do you know where do use the flute? Any cues for that?

Just use the flute anywhere and everywhere pretty much. Although the cave wall above the first shop that you drop into did not appear with the secret song, but it was destructible anyway.

Okay I’m missing something about how the flute works it sounds like. There’s a song to make breakable walls appear more obvious or something? If there is where do I learn that?

I love the exploring and stuff but I’m only 4/17 after spending quite a bit of time (and baubles for bombs) today. I feel like I’m missing some trick the rest of you are using to be 16/17 or even finished entirely.

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songs are in the different world 2 levels

123123 – on a log in a shop where he says the owls are not what they seem in w2z1

332331 – from dropping down into a mountain filled with poison with a flower that (vaguely remember that one, was in ninja area w2z2.

133133 – in an ice maze in w2z3

You have to learn it before you can use them.

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hmm, I seem to be at 16/17 hidden rooms, but I thought i had been to them all. Here is a list of areas I have been, anything I"m missing?

Area 1

  • Raccoon forest gatekeeper left entrance
  • Raccoon forest gatekeeper left exit
  • Icicle cave entrance 1
  • Icicle cave entrance 2

Area 2

  • Nook wallet shop
  • Under the 4 gatekeepers left (dead end yellow)
  • Under the 4 gatekeepers right (raccoon forest right)

Area 3

  • Ice rink chest door
  • Entrance above shop
  • Cave above the shop
  • Block puzzle back drop
  • frozen water fall behind block puzzle

Area 4

  • Icicle room behind banana

Area 5

  • spike room gatekeeper to ice maze
  • top gatekeeper back to spike room

Area 6

  • Gatekeeper to barrels and hidden portal

Area 7

  • clouds to hidden shop/moto’s finger, and spike trap
  • icicle puzzle top of mountain

found my missing secret, it was even posted up above, but reading comprehension and me don’t mix :p

Area 9

  • Yeti fight gatekeeper

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songs are in the different world 2 levels

123123 – on a log in a shop where he says the owls are not what they seem in w2z1

332331 – from dropping down into a mountain filled with poison with a flower that (vaguely remember that one, was in ninja area w2z2.

133133 – in an ice maze in w2z3

You have to learn it before you can use them.

What do they do? I know one is a gatekeeper song, I found that one. I also got the 123 song from where you first get the flute, but I don’t know what it does. Does one of them reveal places to bomb or something?

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the first one, will show moto’s head in areas you can bomb, but it isn’t 100% because at least one wall I know of is bombable without showing his head. You have to be fairly close to use it though so that may be the issue.

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That’s great thanks That would explain why a lot of the bomb-able World 1 areas are able to be visually distinguished and the World 2 ones mostly aren’t. You’d need the flute.

Is there something I’m missing in game telling you guys this? I hate to look at guides for SAB, I like figuring it out myself but I feel really left out on this information. The gatekeeper song I get, you learn it and then have to use it right there. The 123 song I didn’t really get what it was for, and I guess I’m not sure what kind of clues there are for the last song I haven’t found yet.

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when you learn the songs it shows the numbers somewhere, like on the log, in the water with flower petals, or on the wall with ice.

Play the notes a few times and the effect happens so you know what it does.

Moto’s head to show a bombable area, the big mouth things can be controlled (open doors, or stop the gust of winds), and you can shatter ice with the last one.

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Thanks for those tips, I’ll get back in game and check it out tomorrow

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There’s another secret in that place where the last two Bananas were. Behind the pillar you can climb up to reach a cloud, there’s an oddly colored wall that can be bombed. Entering it sends you plummeting down to the Torch Shop.

If I recall correctly, if you make sure that you push forwards a bit as you load into the drop downwards, you can land on a pillar close to the top of the drop. By hopping around from this to the edges of the area up there, I am pretty sure you can bomb open a hole into another secret area (that can be reached otherwise as well), which counted as a secret.

In this area is also a hidden away teleport, down at the bottom somewhere, that will take you past the teleport of no return at the top of the mountain (to the area of the first light-toggle-switch puzzle). There should also be a bauble in there, but you may have that covered already in your work in progress guide, I didn’t read through it all yet.

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A lot to read after I woke up, heh.

Ayrilana> That was indeed a Yellow Bauble I was missing. Thanks for the screenshot — it was a nice enough hint that allowed me to find it without any other prompting.

Absconditus> That Yellow Bauble is just as easy on Normal as it is on Infantile — just drop to the left of where the Cloud would normally be instead of from the Cloud itself. (The main difficulty is just knowing it’s there). Also, with regards to the secret you pointed out in your last post, Niodyne already beat you to it. There’s an easier way into that Bear area as well, and that’s the method I prefer to use once I’m done with the first Mountain.

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I’ve updated the guide with the new information. However, some bad news. Unless I screwed up the run, that was still not all the Baubles in the Zone. Someone may wish to confirm that the above run doesn’t work (just to help nail out user error on my part), but it looks like the scavenger hunt is still ongoing.

Thank you for the help so far. The end is in sight, but we’re not there yet.

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In middle of doing run right now with everything listed. stand by and I’ll say if it worked or not.

No go for me as well, proving to be well hidden. I think that right hand room in spike hallway is the key, but no idea how to get in it. If you look in the crack where the lips part, you can see a white symbol for the “fist” to signify the door can be opened.

The other option is that first hidden room that has two entrances and a bunch of icicles hanging inside of it. there is a separate partition with another room in it, but no access.

I don’t see any baubles in it though, so unsure if its just reusing already made geometry for ease of world making, or intended extra room with a way into it.

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You can open it with the flute song, but afaik there are no baubles in the maze, only another flute song.

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Oh, not the maze, I mean the one past the maze, right before the drop to the uphill climb. Left side opens, but right sides does not.

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A lot to read after I woke up, heh.

Ayrilana> That was indeed a Yellow Bauble I was missing. Thanks for the screenshot — it was a nice enough hint that allowed me to find it without any other prompting.

Absconditus> That Yellow Bauble is just as easy on Normal as it is on Infantile — just drop to the left of where the Cloud would normally be instead of from the Cloud itself. (The main difficulty is just knowing it’s there). Also, with regards to the secret you pointed out in your last post, Niodyne already beat you to it. There’s an easier way into that Bear area as well, and that’s the method I prefer to use once I’m done with the first Mountain.

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I’ve updated the guide with the new information. However, some bad news. Unless I screwed up the run, that was still not all the Baubles in the Zone. Someone may wish to confirm that the above run doesn’t work (just to help nail out user error on my part), but it looks like the scavenger hunt is still ongoing.

Thank you for the help so far. The end is in sight, but we’re not there yet.

No problem. I didn’t want to give it completely away but figured the look of the general area was enough.

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For that last gatekeeper, I would check for another invisible teleporter behind gatekeepers we’ve already opened. I doubt there is anyway to physically climb into that room, so it’s likely a teleporter.

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Just use the flute anywhere and everywhere pretty much. Although the cave wall above the first shop that you drop into did not appear with the secret song, but it was destructible anyway.

After looking into this further, this isn’t quite true. But it does explain why I had so much trouble finding it until it was pointed out to me.

Moto’s Head does appear on that wall, but on the opposite side. If you play the song while above the Torch Shop, then leave and enter the secret Bear area from the alternate entrance, you’ll see Moto’s sigil clearly.

This feels like a bug to me, especially given that you can’t reach the wall from the other side (or get close enough to it from that side to play the song). I could see it not appearing on the side you’re not meant to reach it from, but it really should appear from the Torch Shop side. That said, I would really expect the sigil to appear on both sides if we get more walls that can be approached/seen from both sides.

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Just ran through on normal to test if it was bugged in infantile mode or not, still nothing.

Unless it is a flagrant situation of careless/lazy that gatekeeper on the right after spike hallway and before the giant ice slope is primed to be the last spot to have baubles in it.

Either it is bugged and we are supposed to be able to open it from that side, or there is a way in from the back/top/bottom/sides that we don’t know about.

Thing is, we have100% secrets found, so that room obviously doesn’t count as a secret room….so maybe we are not supposed to access it after all? It is hard to tell since you can see the white palm symbol to say that it is an openable doorm

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I’m 16/17 from doing it on my own and then running through it again with this guide.

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I cant seem to see the first blue bauble in area 1 you listed I must be missing something. I have found 2 blue baubles (rakitten one and near polar bear one) and the 2 yellows but along the route one i just dont see it

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I cant seem to see the first blue bauble in area 1 you listed I must be missing something. I have found 2 blue baubles (rakitten one and near polar bear one) and the 2 yellows but along the route one i just dont see it

On the lower ledge next to the trees as you take the first corner. The rainbow goes over it if you’re on infantile mode.

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On the lower ledge next to the trees as you take the first corner. The rainbow goes over it if you’re on infantile mode.

Ty was wonder round thinking it was closer to shop keeper or something

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The door that you open with the 3 barrels and invisible teleporter bugged on me. I wouldn’t leave a key there, but jump down into area 8 before dropping a key. I had it open, went through the invisible teleporter, left a key there, but then when I went back it wouldn’t let me in. The door was open, I could see the barrels, but I couldn’t walk in. I tried the Lullaby again but nothing, I was completely locked out of that room (and my key).

EDIT: Whoa, works totally fine now. Trippy!

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Yeah, it’s been bugging on me pretty regularly since just after the patch hit. (Well, to be exact, I first encountered it bugged after I got a notice a New Build was available, but before I’d logged off to update, so it was possibly bugged prior to that.) I’d leave the Key around the Checkpoint, myself — if you’re on Infantile, you can just use the Shortcut Clouds to bring the Key across, and if you’re on Normal, you won’t be stashing many Keys in the first place.

Just for safety’s sake, I’ll edit out the suggestion in the guide.

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Oh, not the maze, I mean the one past the maze, right before the drop to the uphill climb. Left side opens, but right sides does not.

Whatever baubles we’re missing, has to be related to this secret door that we can’t open with the Gatekeeper’s Lullaby song. I would imagine it has to be another way to reach it, and that it require us to open it using the Glove instead, like some other doors.

I too had written down a little guide for all the secrets and baubles I found, which I’ve attached below for those interested in cross-referencing. Note that it’s not getting any more totals than the one provided in this topic though, and from cross-referencing them both, we also visit the same secret areas, though take slightly different paths.

The only thing nobody seem to be able to do, is to open that door up by the third chest. I can’t for the life of me figure out how I would get up there. I did spot something “interesting” when hopping out of the other door that we can open though, if you look far above, there’s actually a opening up there, making me wonder if we can’t somehow get on top of the mountain-part there to climb up to it and hop in.

I honestly wish a dev would share some light on this zone’s baubles, since if it’s bugged, at least they could let us know. If it isn’t, perhaps they could give us a very, very cryptic hint that may push us in the right direction? You’d imagine a way to get behind that door would’ve been found by now though, right?

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there is a yellow bauble in that secret area where you drop to the torch shop, when u get that blowable wall down.

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there is a yellow bauble in that secret area where you drop to the torch shop, when u get that blowable wall down.

That one’s covered already, as is the yellow bauble if you drop down to the bottom of the area. So it has to be some other bauble(s) somewhere.

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ohh my mistake then, didnt know it was the same one

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Suggestions are always good. It might just be one that’s been missed

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I’m pretty sure that’s a re-used asset and there’s no way up there.

Did you guys fully check the ice song maze?

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I’ve been pretty much everywhere I can possibly think of. All over the first Mountain — a few interesting spots I found were:

  • A window visible past the Ice Wall in the 2nd Gatekeeper Portal Block puzzle… couldn’t get in there, but then I noticed I could see in the Gatekeeper’s mouth with the correct camera angle anyways, and no bauble was visible there.
  • A way underneath the Wallet Shop. If you enter the secret interior Bear area and drop down near the teleporter, you can peek into the shop from under a nearby overhang. A hole there leads under the shop… from which there is nothing interesting and no escape — I had to dig up rabbits to die.
  • Several paths that turned out to be Tribulation Mode-only routes. I lost a lot of lives to ice jumps.

Went through the Ice Song maze again, yes. I can’t say I looked up in every single chamber, but I played all three songs in every room, and walked around in every dead-end looking for invisible teleporters. Tried some more things with the currently known invisible teleporter… couldn’t get anything. Searched some more above the Icicle Spike puzzle… explored around the depths of the Mountain Goat climb… threw bombs all over the place in the Moto’s Finger deathtrap room… tried to fry the Generous Man with Moto’s Finger…

It really is wearying at this point. So unless inspiration strikes, I’ll probably wait for a dev response. Of course, we’ve got a lot of players around… maybe someone will get lucky. But for now, I think I’ll just focus on enjoying the content for a couple of days without worrying about intense secret searching.

EDIT: Oh, right, another interesting thing I found early was that passage below and to the left of the 1st Q-Bert puzzle when you’re done with the 1st Mountain. There’s clearly space above, but found no way up there, and couldn’t see anything bauble-like. May be another red herring but… meh.

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I will just reaffirm I’ve followed this guide to a T and got the secret room achievement. My only guess is that, if there is indeed another bauble, it does not lay in a unknown secret room, otherwise why else would we already have the achievement. There must be an area to jump to somewhere.

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