those bubbles might be slightly harder to obtain this time around as the daily chests for zone completion will be account bound instead of character bound.
Please for the love of god tell me this is not correct, i enjoyed running SAB at lest 3 times a day with different guildies.
is there a single good reason to make the chests account bound? VS all the fun of being able to run it on different toons?
ive got 7 toons with full SAB skills, ready to move forward. really hoping that time spent was not a waste.
Well assuming the new skins will still cost 50 Bauble Bubbles, this isn’t a huge deal. You could already get 7 of them per character per day before. You’ll have double the amount of zones to do daily now, so that’s probably 13 or 14 BBs. Even if it is only one set of daily bonus rewards per account, that’s only 3.5 days for a skin. Really not too bad, IMO.
Not to mention I’m sure they’ll maintain the old system where some skins rarely dropped and could be sold on BLTC, so you could always buy them with gold.
That said, I did the same – got four characters with all the SAB equipment, so having an account-wide daily reward system would sort of make using more than one pointless. Oh well; this isn’t really an “end of the world” change. Now if they make the skins cost more than 50 Bauble Bubbles or increase the paltry amount of gold they cost before (what was it – 1g?), THEN I’d have a problem. Better not cost 10g like some of the Sovereign skins!
I don’t get why ppeople think it shouldn’t tAke them longer to gear 8 toons. it was your choice to make that many. You should not make your gear the same rate as everyone else on one character.
I don’t get why ppeople think it shouldn’t tAke them longer to gear 8 toons. it was your choice to make that many. You should not make your gear the same rate as everyone else on one character.
They’re not saying it shouldn’t take them longer to gear 8 toons. Look at it this way:
What you’re saying is, if it takes 1 hour to gear 1 toon, then it should take 8 hours to gear 8 toons. That’s fine and I don’t think anyone has a problem with that. However, it’s not how this game works. If it takes 1 hour of gameplay to gear a toon, it takes far longer than 8 hours to gear 8 toons due to artificial time gating.
TL;DR: What people are complaining about isn’t that it takes longer to gear multiple toons. What people are complaining about is that they can’t sit and binge on the game for 24 hrs straight and do it all at once. According to Anet it takes 2 weeks to make an ascended weapon. People are mad that they can’t put in extra effort during that time to do one ascended weapon per alt every 2 weeks; instead, they have to wait 2 weeks for every… single… one.
It’s a case of “if I put in 8 times the work, why can’t I be eligible for 8x the reward?”. Barring situations where people create and delete characters purely to farm rewards (which I agree is an exploit, but one that I think could be easily fixed by matching rewards to your character’s TRUE level. So even if you created a fresh level 2, ran him to Southsun and did a dungeon there while upscaled to 80, he still only gets the rewards for a level 2 character), I don’t see why if somebody did the Daily 8 times in a day, if they legitimately put in the time and effort to get it, they shouldn’t get the Daily rewards 8 times too.
Personally speaking though, I’m rather glad that the rewards are once per account. Frees up more time to do the rest of my GW2 content, which have been sadly neglected since the Living Story started. XD
Well, I’m still hoping that the bubbles you can dig up are in the same places as last time in world 1. If that’s the case then you can still get a decent amount of bubble baubles by turning in 250 of them. I used to get more than that in less than 15min so it should be fine, well, if they’re still in the same spots….
(which I agree is an exploit, but one that I think could be easily fixed by matching rewards to your character’s TRUE level. So even if you created a fresh level 2, ran him to Southsun and did a dungeon there while upscaled to 80, he still only gets the rewards for a level 2 character)
No, that wouldn’t be fair… I did SAB with my lvl2 warrior. She’s from January, so I didn’t create her specifically for SAB. But she happened to be the one in Rata Sum (as permanent station at the moment) when SAB came out in April. I also did it on several other mule characters who are (still) waiting for playing time while I others. (oh, and she’s still lvl2…)
But with the account bound chests, it just means it’ll take a few more runs.
(which I agree is an exploit, but one that I think could be easily fixed by matching rewards to your character’s TRUE level. So even if you created a fresh level 2, ran him to Southsun and did a dungeon there while upscaled to 80, he still only gets the rewards for a level 2 character)
No, that wouldn’t be fair… I did SAB with my lvl2 warrior. She’s from January, so I didn’t create her specifically for SAB. But she happened to be the one in Rata Sum (as permanent station at the moment) when SAB came out in April. I also did it on several other mule characters who are (still) waiting for playing time while I others. (oh, and she’s still lvl2…)
But you do have level 80 characters, yes? It would be a simple matter to just switch to one of them when doing SAB.
Scaling rewards is already present in some parts of the game anyway. For example, if you do any activity on a low level character, the items that the reward box grants you at the end are scaled to your level, meaning that it’s far less profitable to do them on low levels than it is for level 80’s.
But you do have level 80 characters, yes? It would be a simple matter to just switch to one of them when doing SAB.
I wanted to do it with an asuran. And I didn’t have a lvl80 asuran at the time. She was also around 10…
And my lvl80’s (had only one at that time…) are somewhere in the world, while my lvl2 is nicely parked in Rata Sum. Sometimes it’s about convience…
And it never occurred to me to create and delete characters… I preferred to use a select few characters, who had the large coin purse so I could also get the 250 baubles extra from just finishing the first two areas…
God I’m gonna be kittened if this is the case. So we’re only supposed to get one/two skins for the whole month? How the kitten can they think thats fair. They better reduce the cost of them, or leave the soulbound. If they’re doing this to stop players from creating/deleting new characters for this, then make it have a requirement of character age to get the rewards.
People where creating/deleting characters just to farm the chests. Remember, Anet hates when players farm.
CP begs to differ,
Anet has no idea how to control farming. that being said, SAB farming was more about Fun than profit.
This. Even with creating/deleting characters just to run it, you weren’t really making any actual money off of it (unless you were really lucky and were getting the sellable skins). If anything, it was taking money out, since you needed to spend 1g (iirc) per nontradable skin.
To prevent the mindless grinding and farming that happened last time, Arenanet have changed all the chest loot and dig spots to account bound daily. This make it a bit harder to get the good stuff.
WTF, God Kitten Kitten it ANet. So now all we’re gonna be able to do is get one/two of the skins this month. WHY do you keep taking away ways of getting rewards. Rewards are there for us to get, yet you keep gating them so we can only get one.
So we can’t run a zone multiple times for the BBs, and now we also can’t even run the zones (efficiently) multiple times to get baubles to trade for BBs.
Heres another nail in the kitten coffin.
We are moving into a brave new time gated world. Funny thing is, old games used to give us new level caps for time gated stuff. I don’t want a new level cap, but I also don’t want time gated content.
What happened to the old philosophy of giving us new content and that was the reason we played because it was fun? Now it’s just arbitrary time gates on weapons that add power creep into the game with no new content for which to play it on. It’s such an odd decision.
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I don’t get why ppeople think it shouldn’t tAke them longer to gear 8 toons. it was your choice to make that many. You should not make your gear the same rate as everyone else on one character.
As an Alt-aholic myself, I agree with this statement. I just don’t understand the mentality of all these players feeling persecuted by ANet because time-gating limitations just happen to slow down their hyper-sonic rush to gear up 8 characters. The idea that this is being done to “punish” people with many characters is simply self-delusional and begs the question as to WHY Anet would do something intentionally to cause these players some personal agony. Did it ever dawn on you that your play-style choice might NOT be why they are putting this limitation in place?
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Did it ever dawn on you that your play-style choice might NOT be why they are putting this limitation in place?
If its not to stop us from farming this (with multiple characters), then why the hell did they do it? There is no reason I can think of of why the kitten they decided to do this. I mean, look at the farming they added with the invasions, which offer a kitten lot more actual rewards than farming the levels of SAB. With us farming BBs, we were actually taking money out of the economy, since each skin cost 1g (iirc).
But don’t we need to grind continue coins for TM and whatever else?
It’s like saying,
“Hey! Grinding is mindless, we changed it so you can’t but if you want stuff you have to grind for it!”
Actually thats a good point. If we’re gonna need to use a lot of continue coins, how the kitten are we supposed to get them without farming JPs or baubles? (Or buy the infinite one from BTLC. P2W starting) So we have to farm for continue coins, yet they’ve killed at least one way of doing it efficiently. Man, I’m getting tired of Anet logic.
I am disappointed in the whole account bound daily thing. Its a slap in the face for true alt-a-holics just to curb alt farmers. I do not know why a level restriction (like say level 5) was not implemented (its done well in GW1 festival quests) if only to time gate extreme alt farmers that repeatly trash and create alts.
I earned practically no gold during the first SAB event to gain enough BB to complete both a pve and pvp SAB weapons set. I placed genuine effort on something of almost no monetary gain (like WvW) yet whose value is in a completed time exclusive weapons set I still use to this day (as it appeals to my alts aesthetically). While I did make full use of my 8 alts for the daily SAB rewards, I find it insulting to be classed as akin to the gold ‘farmers’ Anet has so ironically allow to breed rampant with the last update (queensdale, frostgorge, invasion completion stallers, I am looking at you). With even less chances of completing the current SAB set (not mentioning a PvP set and/or the variants) over the time I have for something niche and of near no monetary gain (rather a loss) I really hope Anet re-examines their priorities in regards to the reward aspects in the game.
You can still farm for baubles. You just wont be able to get the bonus chests more than once a day. That means you can still dig up those nice secret baubles and do the bonus level at the end of zone 1. Plenty of ways to get baubles, just a slightly reduced rate and less oppotunities for skin drops. Its a good decision, skin drops will be rarer and worth more.
You could actually earn baubles faster by starting in zone2 and digging up the 40 baubles and repeating. Just meant there was no chance of skins by doing that.
You can still farm for baubles. You just wont be able to get the bonus chests more than once a day. That means you can still dig up those nice secret baubles and do the bonus level at the end of zone 1. Plenty of ways to get baubles, just a slightly reduced rate and less oppotunities for skin drops. Its a good decision, skin drops will be rarer and worth more.
You could actually earn baubles faster by starting in zone2 and digging up the 40 baubles and repeating. Just meant there was no chance of skins by doing that.
Did you not read, dig spots are also account bound. So the only feasible way to get baubles is to go around killing everything and trying to pick up all the scattered baubles, which is soooo time consuming its not really feasible to do.
Also: God, another one of those elitists/whatevers that has to have something exclusive. These kinds of skins (the blue ones), should be not be that kitten hard to get. TM ones should be, but normal ones should not be that rare, at least not from trading BB for them.
To prevent the mindless grinding and farming that happened last time, Arenanet have changed all the chest loot and dig spots to account bound daily. This make it a bit harder to get the good stuff.
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Ah thanks. Read that earlier and must of missed it. Oh well bit excessive nerfing but atleast we have 2 worlds and trib mode now. Trib mode might be profitable once you get good at it.
Ah thanks. Read that earlier and must of missed it. Oh well bit excessive nerfing but atleast we have 2 worlds and trib mode now. Trib mode might be profitable once you get good at it.
Except that dig spots will still probably be unavailable (if you’ve done them in normal/infantile mode). Or those spots might also be death traps (which I highly suspect them to be).
For the first year now the message from Anet has been “kitten the alts”. They like it when you buy character slots, but punish you for actually using them.
Also: God, another one of those elitists/whatevers that has to have something exclusive. These kinds of skins (the blue ones), should be not be that kitten hard to get. TM ones should be, but normal ones should not be that rare, at least not from trading BB for them.
That’s implying the items was gotten solely for the purpose of exclusivity. (like a moldy sandwich shaped like Jesus). Quite an insult to those genuinely appreciating the aesthetic nature of SAB weapons and regard them as worth working towards (not just bought from TP). Hopefully you aren’t one of the bitter ones that missed the chance to earn a skin thru the last SAB.
For the first year now the message from Anet has been “kitten the alts”. They like it when you buy character slots, but punish you for actually using them.
And it don’t look like they’re gonna change away from that.
Also: God, another one of those elitists/whatevers that has to have something exclusive. These kinds of skins (the blue ones), should be not be that kitten hard to get. TM ones should be, but normal ones should not be that rare, at least not from trading BB for them.
That’s implying the items was gotten solely for the purpose of exclusivity. (like a moldy sandwich shaped like Jesus). Quite an insult to those genuinely appreciating the aesthetic nature of SAB weapons and regard them as worth working towards (not just bought from TP). Hopefully you aren’t one of the bitter ones that missed the chance to earn a skin thru the last SAB.
Nope I farmed the kitten out of it, so I could get a couple skins of each (through BBs, not buying them from the TP). Its more I hate people who think things need to be really rare, just cause they’re lucky enough to get them, so they can make a fortune on the TP (or in the case of the BLT ticket items, where they were lucky in their key purchases). Or the people that don’t want skins to return, like those skins/rewards from MF or AR.
Making it account bound was just a quick fix with no thought. When the SAB was first released, using new characters to farm the chests was something they were okay with, but planned on fixing for next time. At that time, they talked about possibilities like making the rewards scale based on how much stuff you had done, so that speed running it wasn’t very rewarding.
Personally, I farmed the SAB using new characters just to get shorter and shorter times. I probably won’t be doing that this time due to feeling like I’m getting nothing out of it. There was really no profit in doing it at the time and RNG played a huge role. After however many runs of doing W1 Z1-3, I stocked up on 250 obsidian shards and another ~300 bauble bubbles. I ended up with 8 rare skins. In comparison to today, mindlessly farming champions would have been much, much more profitable and taken way less effort.
To date, all solo content that could be farmed, regardless of difficulty, has been nerfed.
Personally, I farmed the SAB using new characters just to get shorter and shorter times. I probably won’t be doing that this time due to feeling like I’m getting nothing out of it. There was really no profit in doing it at the time and RNG played a huge role. After however many runs of doing W1 Z1-3, I stocked up on 250 obsidian shards and another ~300 bauble bubbles. I ended up with 8 rare skins. In comparison to today, mindlessly farming champions would have been much, much more profitable and taken way less effort.
To date, all solo content that could be farmed, regardless of difficulty, has been nerfed.
Which is kinda bullkitten. Obi shards are the only thing that needed to be removed from the store/Moto. Remove that and there shouldn’t be any problem of letting us farm to our hearts content the levels/dig spots. The thing didn’t give any kind of reward of use outside the SAB, all it was was skins (besides the obi shard).
It was fine as it was with it being character/soul bound.
I’ve read through this thread a bit.. well more or less skimmed over it..
Can someone tell me if they moved or removed the dig locations? Idc about the chest being account bound or not, but the dig local’s are what’s important. As long as those are still in, and in the same locations, you can still make a ton of BB’s.
Also, do we know how the new skins are going to be acquired? I’m really hoping just like the old way. I know I don’t want to see them be thrown into the BL weapons specialist for claim tickets..
I’ve read through this thread a bit.. well more or less skimmed over it..
Can someone tell me if they moved or removed the dig locations? Idc about the chest being account bound or not, but the dig local’s are what’s important. As long as those are still in, and in the same locations, you can still make a ton of BB’s.
Also, do we know how the new skins are going to be acquired? I’m really hoping just like the old way. I know I don’t want to see them be thrown into the BL weapons specialist for claim tickets..
Still same way as before, buy from Moto. Only the new ones now though I think. Green/Yellow ones are for doing Tribulation Mode.
Don’t know about them moving the dig spots, but the spots are once a day now. God kitten kitten Anet…
I’ve read through this thread a bit.. well more or less skimmed over it..
Can someone tell me if they moved or removed the dig locations? Idc about the chest being account bound or not, but the dig local’s are what’s important. As long as those are still in, and in the same locations, you can still make a ton of BB’s.
Also, do we know how the new skins are going to be acquired? I’m really hoping just like the old way. I know I don’t want to see them be thrown into the BL weapons specialist for claim tickets..
Still same way as before, buy from Moto. Only the new ones now though I think. Green/Yellow ones are for doing Tribulation Mode.
Don’t know about them moving the dig spots, but the spots are once a day now. God kitten kitten Anet…
Are you kidding me Jesus, how are we supposed to get those skins? What the point in obtaining a skin, after the event is over? At this rate, you are not going to be able to get all the skins..
All this account-bound, daily chest and special item gain(referring to the dig spots being daily) is just making me want to play less and less now..
WHY CHANGE SOMETHING THAT WAS PERFECTLY FINE BEFORE. I mean it was already time consuming to farm the baubles from the dig spots, but making them daily.. ugh.. just.. no please.. ArenaNet, stop. You are killing yourself. please just, take the blade away from the wrist already with this daily crap and let us farmers have our option to farm or not.
Don’t know about them moving the dig spots, but the spots are once a day now. God kitten kitten Anet…
Not only that, they give less baubles per dig spot. It typically gives 20 baubles now.
Whereas before, I typically had 500 baubles shortly after beginning zone 3, I just now finished all 3 zones with a total of 390 baubles and I did hunt a few extras I was foregoing before…
I don’t get why ppeople think it shouldn’t tAke them longer to gear 8 toons. it was your choice to make that many. You should not make your gear the same rate as everyone else on one character.
They’re not saying it shouldn’t take them longer to gear 8 toons. Look at it this way:
What you’re saying is, if it takes 1 hour to gear 1 toon, then it should take 8 hours to gear 8 toons. That’s fine and I don’t think anyone has a problem with that. However, it’s not how this game works. If it takes 1 hour of gameplay to gear a toon, it takes far longer than 8 hours to gear 8 toons due to artificial time gating.
TL;DR: What people are complaining about isn’t that it takes longer to gear multiple toons. What people are complaining about is that they can’t sit and binge on the game for 24 hrs straight and do it all at once. According to Anet it takes 2 weeks to make an ascended weapon. People are mad that they can’t put in extra effort during that time to do one ascended weapon per alt every 2 weeks; instead, they have to wait 2 weeks for every… single… one.
I think that’s the first time I’ve seen a TL;DR that was longer than the reading part.
Welp, I only care for one skin which is the rifle. I won’t be farming on five characters each day, which is good. I also loathe JPs (though I love SAB’s idea and theme) which means this whole patch I can kick back and watch grass grow since it is focused on SAB and JPs.
I’ll just do the two first worlds and collect 100 bubbles to earn 5 baubles a day, in ten days I’ll have enough for the rifle. S’good enough for me.
Edit: Ah, it’s 250 for a bauble, I forgot. And lowered dig rewards coupled with being account bound means I won’t make the extra bauble.
Welp, to the TP. Jolly good we had that gold influx.
re-Edit: Rifle skin at 8g the first day. I’m good and done, thanks for this patch!
I think that’s the first time I’ve seen a TL;DR that was longer than the reading part.
Hahahaha. I pretty much came here to say this but it was buried. I’m glad somebody else caught it. Maybe in this case, it stands for “too long; don’t read”
Jesus, how are we supposed to get those skins? What the point in obtaining a skin, after the event is over? At this rate, you are not going to be able to get all the skins..