Guild Wars 2

I was busy IRL, and missed event start, when all people run event and teach each other.
And now when i tried to find party for tri mode (i want to make that weapon skin, that’s all) – no one is doing it, and everyone say: “u better do it solo, like we all do”.

But.. You know – Guild Wars 2 is a mupltiplayer game. If i want to play solo – i better play tons of game with a good singleplayer. So.. Imo there is some mistake in concept of a adventure box. It is “do it solo, or forget about it”. That’s boring, you know?

do it with friends

pugs arent gonna trust that you have mad jump skillz, or knowledge of the path.
the experience can be… frustrating… if 2 people take 10 minute forum breaks every 5 mins because the 3rd person is inexperienced.

and… get better friends if your friends are saying this.

insanemaniac.2456:

do it with friends

pugs arent gonna trust that you have mad jump skillz, or knowledge of the path.
the experience can be… frustrating… if 2 people take 10 minute forum breaks every 5 mins because the 3rd person is inexperienced.

and… get better friends if your friends are saying this.

I was shouting near the entrance. Almost all of my friends said that they will not do this event, and some made weapon skin …and will not go to the box ever more =)
So, as i said – it’s an event for “first wave” – when all have interest and it’s easy to find party, or for solo play. In bot ways – i think it’s wrong.

The SAB is pretty much a solo adventure. The ability to group is there for the people that always complain about “why can’t I play with my friends?” and the only reason it recommends 5 players is because it uses the dungeon interface.

PuGing tribulation mode is probably one of the worst things you can do, assuming you actually want to succeed within a reasonable amount of time. Most people that try to PuG it probably haven’t done it before, since anyone that has will probably solo it. The only point in grouping for it is to share the experience of failure, to keep yourselves company. You’ll probably die at least 100 times on your first run.

Find a guide on YouTube, watch it and solo it. It’ll be much faster and easier than trying to run it with a random person.

The problem with tribulation mode, at least in my opinion, is that it punishes group play. Waiting at the next checkpoint for a party member to catch up will kill you. In areas where there’s a tribulation cloud it generally becomes that much harder for more than one person to clear an area because it will hit the 2nd or 3rd person while chasing the 1st.

It wasn’t really an event for first wave, especially in tribulation. In order for it to work, every single person must reach the checkpoints, it’s not like in normal mode where you can just die and be warped to the checkpoint someone else activates. Some bits are difficult and can hold players back for ages so that’s why most people would rather solo than wait for others. Not to mention bosses have the health scaled down in solo mode, so they’re not hard to kill anyway.
And normal mode is too easy to have a need for a party.
I suggest following dulfy.net guides, they are there for a reason, and are amongst the best you can find.
I know this is an MMO, and you’re supposed to do things in a group, but remember how some people are very strict when it comes to their party in a dungeon? Like they only accept people that are lvl 80, full exotics/ascendent gear, and already know the paths? It’s the same for SAB. Not only that, but in SAB Tribulation it’s actually faster if you do it solo, so this is why.

Everyone does SAB solo anyways. No one bothers to have parties because they have to wait for everyone else. I don’t see anyone “teaching” anyone else either, except guildies.

SAB is a ton of fun with friends and guildies. What is everyone talking about?

About the need for all party members to reach the checkpoint… In a way it’s stupid, on the other hand I can solo world 1 in under 30 mins, world 2 in 1,5 h max. I think ANET didn’t want ppl like me to sell slots right before boss for 10g a piece.

As for teaching guildies – it’s fun to watch them die lol.

Group SAB Trib Mode is the most fun, as long as you’re dong it with friends/guildies and not PuGs. Still want to get that 2-3 5-man clear. Almost had it but for an unlucky disconnect about 3/4 through.

Imo SAB is fine in groups for the first few runs. On your daily bauble bubble farm run, or tribulation mode runs, you really don’t want those runs to take 3x longer than necessary because you spend most of the time watching someone not making a particular jump. Had those runs too and they were decidedly not fun. I also don’t see the point about qq-ing because it’s soloable, since there’s so much content you can do that demands groups, and the fact you can’t get a group for SAB isn’t exactly ANet’s fault – they made it soloable but also doable in a group, what do you want from them? Mandatory grouped jumping puzzle like content isn’t a great idea. In a dungeon run you can always tell pugs to stack, dodge roll into corner at alpha, equip those utils, etc, in order to get things moving. You can’t make them have jumping skills by using chat. If doing this in a 5 man group was necessary, doing it with pugs would be a terrible experience a lot of the time. SAB is fine exactly the way it is.

Doing it in a group fine if you’re looking for a casual run and don’t care about how long it takes. If you’re going for efficient runs where you don’t get stuck waiting for slow players then you’re better off solo.

I refuse to run SAB in a group because of what I experienced last April. People are just so incredibly slow and not very good with jumping puzzles. PuGing also attracts those that want to be carried and have their hand held.

Lianu.1390:

The problem with tribulation mode, at least in my opinion, is that it punishes group play. Waiting at the next checkpoint for a party member to catch up will kill you. In areas where there’s a tribulation cloud it generally becomes that much harder for more than one person to clear an area because it will hit the 2nd or 3rd person while chasing the 1st.

Yep. And it takes longer because all the people will have to pass some difficult points.
And taking longer also increases the risk of disconnections. And you can’t get back anyway.

I’m fine with doing it with some friends – we also speak via voice chat and mock ourselves over, so even if we take longer, we’re still having fun.
But i see no reason to do it with other people beside those.

If they change it so only one person need to unlock the checkpoint it would be much better going in multilayer,right now you can only go as fast as the slowest party member,,,,

Killface.1896:

If they change it so only one person need to unlock the checkpoint it would be much better going in multilayer,right now you can only go as fast as the slowest party member,,,,

And then you would find people selling Tribulation runs to get the skins.
Nah, the current system is fine, after all – apart from the disconnection issues.

For normal mode, the game already lets players respawn at a checkpoint once any player has reached it. So if you’re playing in a group, as soon as someone dies, he’s at the latest checkpoint.

Garr.1823:

I was busy IRL, and missed event start, when all people run event and teach each other.
And now when i tried to find party for tri mode (i want to make that weapon skin, that’s all) – no one is doing it, and everyone say: “u better do it solo, like we all do”.

But.. You know – Guild Wars 2 is a mupltiplayer game. If i want to play solo – i better play tons of game with a good singleplayer. So.. Imo there is some mistake in concept of a adventure box. It is “do it solo, or forget about it”. That’s boring, you know?

My response: Do it solo:)

Really, do it solo.

I personally run Trib mode with guildies, but I refuse to take along more than 2 of them with me in 1 run. Why? Becouse the more people there is, the longer it takes. You can’t really help eachother by other means then showing the path. More people means just waiting longer.

Oh and bring a LOT of continue coins and even MORE patience.

It’s a solo-friendly game inside of a multiplayer game. Tribulation mode especially is way easier with less people. Trying to coordinate everyone to each checkpoint is a real pain, you’ll only be as strong as your weakest link.

Seems you are looking for someone to run Trib mode with you so they can run you through it without having to actually figure it out/look it up online yourself.

I personally think that Tribulation Mode is more fun with one extra player. I wouldn’t run it with a full party, but having one friend of equal skill-level along, takes away a lot of the frustration. It makes the process of finding out the correct path a lot faster (yeah, we didn’t wait for any Dulfy guides).

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

I personally think that Tribulation Mode is more fun with one extra player. I wouldn’t run it with a full party, but having one friend of equal skill-level along, takes away a lot of the frustration. It makes the process of finding out the correct path a lot faster (yeah, we didn’t wait for any Dulfy guides).

Agreed. Equal skill-level is the operative phrase. Nothing like doing it with someone that hasn’t mastered wrap-around jumps. Just AFK at each checkpoint for 10min lol.

Yeah, Trib Mode’s (all party members must make it to the checkpoint before they can get warped) is so punishing that I wouldn’t dream of attempting it in a group unless the other guy(s) were equally experienced or extremely patient.

Group play is way more fun in Normal Mode, however. Infantile Mode is for getting achievements and exploring. (Although I wish dig sites still worked in them.)

I was thinking about trib mode, and got some idea. If u played “Portal 2” – u remember that multiplayer mode in it. And that “puzzles” for 2 players. And it was really nice.
So… May be in future Box will have some mode and puzzles (w/e, buttons, idk) for 2+ players?

I’ve taken guildies through w1 normal who wanted help (mostly just showing them the path, killing the boss myself) but that’s it. The gameplay far better suits single player (especially in trib mode)

Do it solo to get whatever achievements and stuff you want.

Do it with friends to show them how to do that thing they can’t figure out.

Do it with friends in tribulation mode because it’s always a contest to see who gets to laugh at everyone else getting killed. Also, Do it with friends in tribulation mode so you don’t miss a few particularly hilarious group-only kill animations.