Guild Wars 2

I’m guessing there was probably thread on this, but I couldn’t find one.

Anyways, I was hoping to see the Unfriendly Skies achievement possible to complete even following an initial wipe on the last boss.

The main reason it’s that it’s still possible to meet the criteria for the achievement (victory within 15 minutes), but be barred from the achievement simply because it was a post-wipe fight. Personally, I’ve already done this 5 times, but they have all been post-wipe battles that don’t count.

As to why they don’t count, I’m not sure on the reasoning. Someone tried to explain to me that people would just intentionally wipe if they timer went over the amount, but you can do this with any of the achievements. The other difficult achievements, Personal Space and Faster than Light, both work post-wipe. It is odd that these work in such a fashion, but Unfriendly Skies does not. I understand that the airship “flies away”, but if we want to start to talk about semi-realism in a video game, you might as well toss everything else in GW2 under the bus.

It is also very misleading having the “airship escapes” timer pop up on a post-wipe boss clear that is within 15 minutes. Players can become very confused by this, and if they do not actively search information through 3rd party sources, they might be convinced that they did something wrong.

Additionally, the way the achievement is now is severely punishing to things beyond a player’s control. For instance, if some players experience a latency issues during the boss fight or a player disconnects, it can cause a party wipe or miss of the 15 minute timer. As a result, the players are now forced to complete full rerun of a dungeon in order to have the opportunity to try again.

On another note, I find it a bit odd that such achievements do not even have titles as rewards given the difficulty, but that’s a separate matter.

Anyways, those are my thoughts on that. Thanks for reading.

Second all that, we were going for the achievement tonight, but it really sucks that you only get one attempt.

I third this suggestion. It’s not hard to kill her within 15 minutes each time you reset the fight. The hard part is surviving the cannonfire to make this possible.

It makes it more challenging. I ran it for 6 hours to get the achievement (with mostly the same group, all PUGs) and we kept having many mistakes. First, one guy was dying a lot and wasn’t getting close to Mai during zap-attacks (so he was either getting shadowstepped or tanking the zap-shot which meant we would have 3 minutes of each phase BEFORE we could damage Mai).

After that, 2 people left, and so we went back in. Then we got to the boss and were about to clear her, so I told someone to swap chars during final barrage because he wanted the avoid Horrik achievement (I heard that that worked, never tried it), but apparently he was the host because when we did a host swap (it was intentional FOR this opportunity) it didn’t actually happen, so we all got booted out.

Then we do it again, and the new pug hosts it, get to the boss, wipe a few times (one of the guys was used to doing it on a Guard and was using a Warr for more damage) DURING the fight, but get to ~10 minutes until we all die trying to res that Warr. We go in again (no chance of getting the achieve) and start wiping, so then new Pug (other Warr) decides to leave, and we get booted since he hosted.

THEN we did it again with a new pug, and we got it on the first try.

You just need to be willing to work FOR the achievement, not just play the dungeon.

The other difficult achievements, Personal Space and Faster than Light, both work post-wipe.

Don’t judge me, what does post-wipe mean? How can I get those with that your post-wipe thing?

Disagree. It’s an achievement for a reason and it should have some challenge to it. It’s totally doable as it is atm. You just need to get the fight down. Practice with the same group and get it on the next run. Keep it the way it is.

Shaez.5762:

Don’t judge me, what does post-wipe mean? How can I get those with that your post-wipe thing?

It means if everyone in your party is killed (a “wipe”), and you start the fight again (so “post-wipe”), you are still elligible for the achievement. You don’t need to reset the dungeon.
In Mai Trin case, you can’t : if the party wipe, the achievement is unavailable for this instance run.

Calmwinds.4753:

Disagree. It’s an achievement for a reason and it should have some challenge to it. It’s totally doable as it is atm.

Well, it isn’t asked to nerf the fight or anything, just to make the retry a little more friendly. As in, not redoing the whole dungeon just for this one fight.

What’s funny, is that you don’t always get the achievement even when you do kill her without wiping, in under 15 minutes.

all the achievements in this dungeon are unpredictable

For the “unfriendly skies” achievement make sure your group stays close to one another so Mai walks into the circles. Because Horrik is going to target one of you with his cannon and if he targets a person that’s far away from where Mai is, you’re just going to be wasting time because Mai is not going to be near the aoe area.

For the barrage I suggest running as a group in a circle, speed buffs are welcomed here so it makes it easier to outpace the bombs. I’ve tried this strategy several times and it’s worked like a charm. Now if one goes down, don’t try to rez unless it’s very possible to do so ( use your judgment ), other than that you rez when the fight starts again.