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Posted by: Singer.8740

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Q:

I have done this dungeon quite allot and have managed to get the other achievment’s for it but i do not understand if i have to avoid horriks attacks during just the combat phases or during the cannon phases too. i would love some clarification from a dev if possible. thanks

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Posted by: Mark Katzbach

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A:

What you need to do is avoid being hit by Horrik’s cannon fire during the barrage phase of the final boss battle.

So, getting hit by Horrik’s attacks while fighting Mai and Horrik on the ground don’t count against this achievement.

Also, during the barrage phases, other cannons besides Horrik’s are shooting AoE cannon fire. Those other cannon blasts also don’t count against this achievement.

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Posted by: Ace.1726

Ace.1726

How do you get this achievement? Dulfy says don’t get hit by Horrik after you defeat Mai.

I’m pretty sure I did that but still no achievement.

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Posted by: leman.7682

leman.7682

I did it twice already – still no achievement.

What really saddens me is that me and my guardian friend carried whole team by resurrecting 3 defeated members after the 3rd cannonade and they received the achievement, but we didn’t even when especially paying attention to Horik in the end.

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Posted by: Ace.1726

Ace.1726

I did it twice already – still no achievement.

What really saddens me is that me and my guardian friend carried whole team by resurrecting 3 defeated members after the 3rd cannonade and they received the achievement, but we didn’t even when especially paying attention to Horik in the end.

I’ve been doing a fair bit of carrying myself, I’m hoping people in general improve in this dungeon because it is pretty easy. It was like that in the Molten Weapons Facility as well, people got a lot better by the end of it.

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Posted by: Xeraion.1582

Xeraion.1582

dulfy updated her Achievement guide, it says now:
“This achievement requires you to avoid all of Horrik’s AoE circles during the entire fight from start to finish. It is unknown currently if you have to sucessfully avoid all of the AoEs during the cannon phase too. "

that means it is near impossible with my guard who trys to lure her into the fields…
i think you need to go range the entire fight to get this achivement -.-’

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Posted by: Strejda Tom.6108

Strejda Tom.6108

Is this achievement doable without playing a thief? Tried this about 10 times with Guard and War and I still fail lol. So many cannon AoEs.

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Posted by: Rozbuska.5263

Rozbuska.5263

Its bugged I now perfectly dodge all his attacks during whole fight (including cannos) and no achiev.

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Posted by: pulsecodesgnl.3470

pulsecodesgnl.3470

Dev clarification here would be greatly appreciated :/.

*wink wink nudge nudge.

But really, it’s great to have something to work towards, at this point though, I have yet to see confirmation of someone actually getting the achievement, as opposed to meeting a bunch of different criteria.

So, can someone post a screenie or something of them getting it to ensure it’s not bugged? And two … clarification on what is needed.

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Posted by: Strejda Tom.6108

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Ofc its always fine when you have something to work towards unless you arent sure thakittens a bug.. People told me that they got it even without dodging cannons, I finally dodge all cannons and still dont get it so what should I do now?

Some clarification would be nice.

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Posted by: aqlye.4617

aqlye.4617

i dodged all the aoes except during the cannon phrase(got hit twice) and i still didnt get the achievements. i wonder are we suppose to dodge every single aoe(including the cannon phrase)?
well not related to this topic …. any1 got the Unfriendly Skies achievements? i only got the timer up once (left 20 second) and our group dont know how to use the cannon… in the end we missed the achievement :’(

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Posted by: Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

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I also agree it would be nice to get Dev input on this.

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Posted by: Chibi.1839

Chibi.1839

i dodged all the aoes except during the cannon phrase(got hit twice) and i still didnt get the achievements. i wonder are we suppose to dodge every single aoe(including the cannon phrase)?
well not related to this topic …. any1 got the Unfriendly Skies achievements? i only got the timer up once (left 20 second) and our group dont know how to use the cannon… in the end we missed the achievement :’(

You have to pick up the cannon horik drops and put in on the ship near it

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Posted by: Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

i dodged all the aoes except during the cannon phrase(got hit twice) and i still didnt get the achievements. i wonder are we suppose to dodge every single aoe(including the cannon phrase)?
well not related to this topic …. any1 got the Unfriendly Skies achievements? i only got the timer up once (left 20 second) and our group dont know how to use the cannon… in the end we missed the achievement :’(

You have to pick up the cannon horik drops and put in on the ship near it

Wrong achievement.

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Posted by: pulsecodesgnl.3470

pulsecodesgnl.3470

i dodged all the aoes except during the cannon phrase(got hit twice) and i still didnt get the achievements. i wonder are we suppose to dodge every single aoe(including the cannon phrase)?
well not related to this topic …. any1 got the Unfriendly Skies achievements? i only got the timer up once (left 20 second) and our group dont know how to use the cannon… in the end we missed the achievement :’(

You have to pick up the cannon horik drops and put in on the ship near it

Wrong achievement.

Read the post please, he was answering the second half…

…. any1 got the Unfriendly Skies achievements? i only got the timer up once (left 20 second) and our group dont know how to use the cannon… in the end we missed the achievement :’(

That being said … dev’s? A little help please?

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Posted by: Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

i dodged all the aoes except during the cannon phrase(got hit twice) and i still didnt get the achievements. i wonder are we suppose to dodge every single aoe(including the cannon phrase)?
well not related to this topic …. any1 got the Unfriendly Skies achievements? i only got the timer up once (left 20 second) and our group dont know how to use the cannon… in the end we missed the achievement :’(

You have to pick up the cannon horik drops and put in on the ship near it

Wrong achievement.

Read the post please, he was answering the second half…

…. any1 got the Unfriendly Skies achievements? i only got the timer up once (left 20 second) and our group dont know how to use the cannon… in the end we missed the achievement :’(

That being said … dev’s? A little help please?

I did read the post. The second half was “well not related to this topic.”

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Posted by: dulfy.1493

dulfy.1493

I believe for Unfriendly Skies you have to defeat the encounter within 15 minutes and on your very first try. If you wipe then the achievement bugs out or something. Was that the case here?

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

ZudetGambeous.9573

My group tried this a couple time. none of us were able to get it even after avoiding all the AOE from Horrik. I guess you have to either avoid all the AOE from the cannon as well, or it is bugged.

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Posted by: Crovax.7854

Crovax.7854

I believe for Unfriendly Skies you have to defeat the encounter within 15 minutes and on your very first try. If you wipe then the achievement bugs out or something. Was that the case here?

from what i get the time starts ticking when you start your first encounter.
first fight + wipe +second fight (win in under 15min but still more than 15minutes combined with first encounter) doesn’t get you the achievement.

source: happened to me, didn’t get it. next run, beat boss first try and got the achievement.

My group tried this a couple time. none of us were able to get it even after avoiding all the AOE from Horrik. I guess you have to either avoid all the AOE from the cannon as well, or it is bugged.

my guess is that it’s bugged atm. avoiding all aoe during this fight is literally impossible for some classes

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Posted by: Rozbuska.5263

Rozbuska.5263

Its seems bugged I did it twice without hit by any Horriks AoE (including cannons) and still dont get achievment

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Posted by: Folie.7980

Folie.7980

Not sure if this helps, but I believe if you walk into one of the cannon’s circles after it’s been fired and get damaged, it counts as getting hit.

#magswag
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Posted by: leman.7682

leman.7682

Not sure if this helps, but I believe if you walk into one of the cannon’s circles after it’s been fired and get damaged, it counts as getting hit.

My friend got hit couple of times by the cannonade and still received the achievement.

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Posted by: Aarean.5398

Aarean.5398

As of right now for this achievement you have to go the entire fight without touching the red ring of his aoes that he casts.. not including the mortars. Dodging out of the circle doesn’t matter because you were in the red circle.. Very stupid setup for a achieve and im going to keep playing at it until I completely luck out and he doesn’t target me once or they change it to rightfully be getting through the fight without taking damage from a specific attack he casts.

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Posted by: Folie.7980

Folie.7980

Not sure if this helps, but I believe if you walk into one of the cannon’s circles after it’s been fired and get damaged, it counts as getting hit.

My friend got hit couple of times by the cannonade and still received the achievement.

Hmm. It than case, it seems like it’s probably still a little glitchy.

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

ZudetGambeous.9573

As of right now for this achievement you have to go the entire fight without touching the red ring of his aoes that he casts.. not including the mortars. Dodging out of the circle doesn’t matter because you were in the red circle.. Very stupid setup for a achieve and im going to keep playing at it until I completely luck out and he doesn’t target me once or they change it to rightfully be getting through the fight without taking damage from a specific attack he casts.

If this is true then the best strategy might be to just have one party member die to mia at the start of the fight and stay dead until the end. That’s the only way this achievement would be possible.

I mean he targets players with the AOE and the circle appears over players. The only way to get it would be to never be targeted. That can’t be how it was intended.

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Posted by: Esplen.3940

Esplen.3940

I got the achievement, dodging through his casts and even getting hit by some of his aoe’s…

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Posted by: Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

I got the achievement, dodging through his casts and even getting hit by some of his aoe’s…

Lol I think this post confirms that the achievement may be a bit buggy.

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Posted by: Esplen.3940

Esplen.3940

Of course, I think I deserved it, because I single-handedly ressed 2 players (alternated to avoid damage) while 4 people were DEAD (not down).

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Posted by: encepheron.6539

encepheron.6539

I have successfully managed to avoid all AoEs for 3 consecutive runs and still have not gotten the achievement, while my party-mate who was knocked around a bit for being the “lightning rod” as we like to call him for bringing Mai’s buff down got it on the second run. Definitely feel like there is something wrong here.

Edit Oh by the way, I’m not asking for nerfs or having it “toned down”. I just would like clarification on the achievement if possible, and/or if there is something wrong with it, to have it fixed. I’m personally gonna run all tomorrow before I go on vacation (for 2 weeks!) and try it. If it doesn’t go, then that’s just the way the dice falls.

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Posted by: Zil.3071

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stil no clarification?

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Posted by: Strejda Tom.6108

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More posts = higher change for devs answer but I am afraid they will never say something like – yep, its bugged at this time.))

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Posted by: deviller.9135

deviller.9135

More posts = higher change for devs answer but I am afraid they will never say something like – yep, its bugged at this time.))

Shh… they are busy trying this dungeon and thinking what the hell going wrong…..

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Posted by: Strejda Tom.6108

Strejda Tom.6108

We tried one more tactics with one party. One of us got killed without being hit by aoe, we ressed him in the last fight to be sure he wasnt hit by aoe through whole fight, guess whaaat → no achievement too.

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Posted by: leman.7682

leman.7682

Of course, I think I deserved it, because I single-handedly ressed 2 players (alternated to avoid damage) while 4 people were DEAD (not down).

I tanked Mia and Horrik as my necro with my guardian friend ressing 3 dead party memebers who touched both mortars and aoes. One of the dead got the achievement, me and the guardian? Hell no. Thank you, ArenaNet. I’m happy I get rewarded for the skillful gameplay.

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Posted by: Esplen.3940

Esplen.3940

Of course, I think I deserved it, because I single-handedly ressed 2 players (alternated to avoid damage) while 4 people were DEAD (not down).

I tanked Mia and Horrik as my necro with my guardian friend ressing 3 dead party memebers who touched both mortars and aoes. One of the dead got the achievement, me and the guardian? Hell no. Thank you, ArenaNet. I’m happy I get rewarded for the skillful gameplay.

Nonono, I don’t think you understand. I was the only person alive. I was tanking Horrik and Mia. I was also ressing my allies. Nobody else was alive, just me.

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Posted by: Strejda Tom.6108

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I am getting annoyed by bugs included in every new content… If they atleast made an announcement about bugs or something when they arent able to repair them..

As I said before we had one guy lying on ground from start of the boss fight till Mai died, then we ressed him and killed Horrik and he still didnt get anything so tell me how you can avoid more AoE than this lol.

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Posted by: PCanineBrigade.4916

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I got hit by his AoE thousands of times during both phases and I still got it.
Well, I was the last one standing after final cannon wave and had to res everyone else so I guess it was my “Personal Space” :\

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Posted by: leman.7682

leman.7682

Nonono, I don’t think you understand. I was the only person alive. I was tanking Horrik and Mia. I was also ressing my allies. Nobody else was alive, just me.

I understood that, I just shared a similar (not identical) experience

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Posted by: Kaaboose.3897

Kaaboose.3897

Guys, I had a thought. I got this after my first go and I can CONFIRM I got hit by cannons during the cannon phase, And I’m also FAIRLY certqain I got hit by the blue stuff as I was kiting mai into it… But I DID manage to dodge every single one of horrics PYSICAL attacks with the cannon. You know the one? Where he physically hits you with the cannon. MAYBE that is what you need to avoid for the achivement. It would make sense wouldn’t it? PERSONAL SPACE? Makes sesne to me, are the people who are claiming they dodge all his cannon attacks sure they never got hit by that?

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Posted by: Aarean.5398

Aarean.5398

Keep the posts rolling. They cant ignore this forever hahaha. Too many inconsistencies with how people got the achievement. I propose they change the achievement to track damage taken from only one of his special attacks. Much higher probability of the achievement working as intended. Right now its just a lame duck.

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Posted by: Strejda Tom.6108

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So according to this screen and what other people say Ive just wasted a couple of hours of my life in dungeon finishing bugged achievement or what?

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Posted by: Aarean.5398

Aarean.5398

Yes i believe they will change it up within a few days. They dont hear anyone complaining with how you get faster than light. Its hard, but not just plain stupid and completely based on if the game server feels like slipping you the achieve. Just wait a few days.

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Posted by: doenerfritze.2648

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As stated in one of the other Threads in this forum, I think the cannon-phase doesn’t count. I think, you have to avoid all of Horriks attacks from start to end. But as everyone else, I’m not sure.

Because my runs with pugs yesterday (I can only play on evening, central europe time) were not really successful in regards to this Achievement, I have no further information. Maybe we all can gather some more detailed information (instead of only complaining ^^), what we have done and if we got the Achievement or not.

It would be easier, if a dev could just answer, but I currently don’t rely on that. With a clear information we could help on finding a possible bug.

Here my old post with some (strange) investigation:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/skypirates/Personal-Space-achievement/first#post2290078 (excuse my poor english )

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Posted by: Aarean.5398

Aarean.5398

Asking for clarification on a highly vague and inconsistent achieve is in no way complaining. Theres only so much players can do. And you have to factor in here-say. I can say for my runs i went an entire run without being hit by any of his attacks and not getting it. Where as others state they got it following same pattern. Theres a hidden variable that the devs have to address and clarify.

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Posted by: BlackWolf.8605

BlackWolf.8605

i got it easy i just meled him while most of my team ranged him that way no aoe hit me

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Posted by: Taegos.4132

Taegos.4132

This is a response I got back after asking for a clarification. So hopefully some changes come

Hello (name redacted),

Thank you for getting back to us and for giving us more feedback about the Aetherblade Retreat dungeon.

The achievement Personal Space unlocks if you avoid Horrik’s area attack while fighting him. This means that during your fight with Horrik and Mai Trin, you need to avoid all the area attacks that Horrick does. You can be hit with the direct attacks, as this doesn’t count, and you can be hit by them without losing the achievement. We understand that the current description of the Personal Space achievement is creating confusion and we thank you for letting us know. Our team will keep investigating the dungeon and its achievements, and you can check for further updates and news in the official Guild Wars 2 forums and Guild Wars 2 page.

We also recommend you to take a look at the Guild Wars 2 official wiki page for tips and detailed information regarding this dungeon, http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Aetherblade_Retreat.

Regards,

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Posted by: Strejda Tom.6108

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He does the cannon aoes too, right?

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Posted by: leman.7682

leman.7682

Hello (name redacted),

Thank you for getting back to us and for giving us more feedback about the Aetherblade Retreat dungeon.

The achievement Personal Space unlocks if you avoid Horrik’s area attack while fighting him. This means that during your fight with Horrik and Mai Trin, you need to avoid all the area attacks that Horrick does. You can be hit with the direct attacks, as this doesn’t count, and you can be hit by them without losing the achievement. We understand that the current description of the Personal Space achievement is creating confusion and we thank you for letting us know. Our team will keep investigating the dungeon and its achievements, and you can check for further updates and news in the official Guild Wars 2 forums and Guild Wars 2 page.

We also recommend you to take a look at the Guild Wars 2 official wiki page for tips and detailed information regarding this dungeon, http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Aetherblade_Retreat.

Regards,

GM Tanooki
Guild Wars 2 Support Team
http://support.guildwars2.com

I know of people getting hit by the AoE attacks from Horrik that did get the achievement.
This doesn’t convince me.

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Posted by: Taegos.4132

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Well that was also a follow up to a bug report in which they said they were investigating the ach. Prolly should have mentioned that.

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Posted by: Strejda Tom.6108

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Well now I was inside with a guardian who stood almost in every AoE and he got it. Seems legit.

What exactly are those direct attacks? They mean Mai Trins attacks or wut?

EDIT: Another guardian who tanked Mai Trin and stood in AoE got it too. Awesome.

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