Guild Wars 2

Aside from buggy bouncers, the puzzle was easier than wintersday. You said hard? I expected clocktower.

Did you get the goggles too? That strikes me as the real challange…

Yes I did. It’s easy aside from glitchy bouncers and the last bouncer shooting you through the mountain making it hard to see…

Without the glitching bouncers the whole thing is easier than many old puzzles..

Any JP that is not timed is easy IMO.
It doesn’t mean it was not enjoyable, though. Dealing with so many people was the best part of it. We have a really nice community.

It was slightly difficult to me. Well, some of the jumps due to the bouncers anyway. And trying to get that dive point just perfect…13 dives later, I finally get it perfectly down.

It’s pretty obvious that there is never going to be the perfect balance for anyone, because some people complain it’s too hard, and others like OP say it’s too easy. Can’t people just enjoy things as they are, and accept that they’re not always going to have everything to suit them?

Thank you ANet for the effort you put into this JP, I for one really appreciate it, I’ve been having a good giggle doing it today.

Some parts were difficult. Mostly aiming with the boosters and pumps. That and the chance of death after a certain point.

Personally, I will agree this is not one of their harder ones. But thats not bad. Its nice not to have to work against a timer sometimes and whatnot. A lot of people still have trouble even if some people don’t.

I enjoyed it all the same.

(the diving goggles on the other hand. I easily got up. But yeah…coming down not so well. xD)

Just watch the video and cry at how easy it is. This has been going on since about an hour after the puzzle opened. A mesmer with Portal does the puzzle, drops a portal at the chest, goes to Broadhollow waypoint, runs to the edge of the mountain, and casts the exit portal. Wait for cooldown and repeat.

it’s kind of a shame that the community does these kind of exploits. I tried the puzzle on my lunch break and it was pretty challenging i fell a bunch of times, got about half way through it before i had to go back to work. I don’t understand why people complain about content being SO easy when they are exploiting to cheat through it.

I died many times, i think it’s pretty challenging lol. I died on a ledge where no one could res me but we had a nice view of everyone falling which was hilarious.

After around 10 jumps I finally happened to get the diving goggles achievement, (even if I’ve never even tried to get those goggle achievements).

I still found this puzzle a lot of fun, although when things quiet down and less people are doing this, it will be painful to always run back from the waypoint if/WHEN you die. Then again if Anet decides to keep those extra Aetherblade caches around the JP, it’s not that bad if you give up at the middle of the JP.

Overall I’d say this JP is good. It’s challenging to most people but you don’t have to rush it, which is good for people who aren’t that good at JPs. Gj Anet.

Made it to the chest without dying(but falling early a few times). Later at my 2nd try to get the goggles too I died at an earlier jump that was still high enough to die for the 1st time – in a bad location. Trying tomorror for the goggles.

From the Dulfy video it does not seem that hard. Hard part seems to jump down without hitting anything so you get the goggle achievement.

The Jumping Puzzle was hilarious.I find myself raging and laughing at the same time from falling to much.When I fell and died at a certain cliff where no one can rez you back there was like 8 other ppl in the same position as me and just laughed so hard.We were all stuck on the cliff and I just asked every1 about there day since we were all stuck there and then we got lucky some1 dropped down and rezzed us.HILARIOUS!

So this is only possible because he can use the Waypoint and the portal does not reset? Seems really like an exploit. Isn’t there a timer on how fast you have to place the 2nd portal that he bypasses by using the Waypoint? (Walking back – if this is even possible probably would take longer I think).

Luthan.5236:

So this is only possible because he can use the Waypoint and the portal does not reset? Seems really like an exploit. Isn’t there a timer on how fast you have to place the 2nd portal that he bypasses by using the Waypoint? (Walking back – if this is even possible probably would take longer I think).

The area where you place the portal is very close to the waypoint. Entry portals do not disappear when you use a waypoint.

this isn’t an exploit, just a clever usage of normal game mechanics

People would not have to resort to such things so much if it wasn’t for the camera issues.

It’s not fun trying to focus on a point when the camera will zoom in and out and turn on its own, also changing the direction you are walking if you were holding the right mouse button.

Vaine.2381:

The Jumping Puzzle was hilarious.I find myself raging and laughing at the same time from falling to much.When I fell and died at a certain cliff where no one can rez you back there was like 8 other ppl in the same position as me and just laughed so hard.We were all stuck on the cliff and I just asked every1 about there day since we were all stuck there and then we got lucky some1 dropped down and rezzed us.HILARIOUS!

“glad you dropped in, welcome to the ledge”

MithranArkanere.8957:

People would not have to resort to such things so much if it wasn’t for the camera issues.

They would anyway, but I agree about camera issues.

If they want to trivialize content that’s their problem, just make sure to laugh in their faces and put them on ignore when they start making posts about how there is nothing to do and they need more content.

If you ever thought this jumping puzzle was about exotic shoulders you’re sorely mistaken.

Nobody else concerned about the stupid decision to add a random factor to the upward thrust thingies……i dont fail this puzzle ever due to my own fault. Only due to those stupid things throwing me into the big blue wall thingies that stun me mid air and cause me to fall to my death…..NOT COOL to have death by RNG in a game, ever.

However, “just a clever usage of normal game mechanics” does not in itself mean that something is not an exploit or against the rules.

The puzzle is not hard. People are just lazy.

The jumping puzzles have always been one of my favorite parts of the game. This new one included. (I will admit I don’t like them as much when they are so crowded, and because this one is not sticking around I don’t think I’ll get to see it when it is not, so that is a shame.)

My main is a mesmer, I never use portals to get to the end of a puzzle but I do offer them to others. I reconize the fact the the jp’s are not everyone’s favorite part of the game and I don’t begrudge them for wanting whatever is at the end of them. If it is really more fun for them to take my portal then do the puzzle themselves, that is not for me to judge.

the Halloween JP was something you could be proud of for getting to the end. Now because of Mesmer Portals this isn’t the case here, since you don’t know if your friend with the achievement used a portal or not.

All the time it took desinging this thing and then a Mesmer comes along and cuts out 90% of it. Seriously?

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

the Halloween JP was something you could be proud of for getting to the end. Now because of Mesmer Portals this isn’t the case here, since you don’t know if your friend with the achievement used a portal or not.

All the time it took desinging this thing and then a Mesmer comes along and cuts out 90% of it. Seriously?

This Just In: You don’t have to go into a portal if you see it.

Mind Blown

AOEHokie.7396:

This Just In: You don’t have to go into a portal if you see it.

Mind Blown

did you even read my whole short post??

UrMom.4205:

it’s kind of a shame that the community does these kind of exploits. I tried the puzzle on my lunch break and it was pretty challenging i fell a bunch of times, got about half way through it before i had to go back to work. I don’t understand why people complain about content being SO easy when they are exploiting to cheat through it.

I don’t think he was doing anything of the sort. More likely he was sarcastically pointing out how the entire puzzle can be trivialized.

i for one can’t wait to check out teh jumping puzzle.
i did take a peek at the existing videos, but that’s really cause i couldn’t wait and spoilers don’t really spoil the fun for me. : ))

the ones out there who do puzzles for fun, keep doing your thing. don’t let what others choose to do affect the way you view and hold the game. the game is YOURS.

though i will say, our playerbase gets pertty darn creative. and for some peolpe, all they want is to get to the end, they don’t care how. for some, the fun might be IN figuring out how to port people frmo beginning to end. : ))

Zanshin.5379:

The puzzle is not hard. People are just lazy.

I don’t feel lazy. I feel like I tried my best with two different characters and my best just wasn’t good enough.

Up until this point, the only (non-holiday) jumping puzzle I’ve not been able to get through on my own has been Stepping Stones, and I don’t see myself ever getting through that one.

Anyway. I struggled for quite a while on this new one with my human guardian. Had to keep starting over, jumping across those black pipes. There was a certain rock wall at the end of a pipe that my guardian couldn’t get up. Other people would come along and zip! Right up they’d go. But try as I might my guardian’s feet could find no purchase. Tried again and again. And again. Finally got up. Then promptly fell at the next jump. Eventually gave up and took a portal.

Came back later, after the patch with my asura ele. Some parts were easier with him, but it was still pretty much a replay of my earlier misadventures. After repeating various parts of the thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and, for example, over, my asura eventually got to the first of the bounce platform things with the blue flames or whatever the hell they are, but didn’t make it to the next one. Just not enough bounce, or something. I don’t know. I couldn’t even tell where he was when he hit the ground due to the bizarreness of the camera angles, but someone was able to rez him, and yup, there he was, right back at the start. Again. So when someone said, ‘Hey, portal!’ I said ‘Oh, hell yes!’

If that’s lazy, fine. I’m lazy. If that’s an exploit, so be it. I’m a kitten dirty exploiter.

At this point I’m too frustrated to care. And still no jade weapon ticket, which is the only thing I’ve really wanted from this Dragon Bash celebration.

Tachenon.5270:

Zanshin.5379:

The puzzle is not hard. People are just lazy.

I don’t feel lazy. I feel like I tried my best with two different characters and my best just wasn’t good enough.

Up until this point, the only (non-holiday) jumping puzzle I’ve not been able to get through on my own has been Stepping Stones, and I don’t see myself ever getting through that one.

Anyway. I struggled for quite a while on this new one with my human guardian. Had to keep starting over, jumping across those black pipes. There was a certain rock wall at the end of a pipe that my guardian couldn’t get up. Other people would come along and zip! Right up they’d go. But try as I might my guardian’s feet could find no purchase. Tried again and again. And again. Finally got up. Then promptly fell at the next jump. Eventually gave up and took a portal.

Came back later, after the patch with my asura ele. Some parts were easier with him, but it was still pretty much a replay of my earlier misadventures. After repeating various parts of the thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and, for example, over, my asura eventually got to the first of the bounce platform things with the blue flames or whatever the hell they are, but didn’t make it to the next one. Just not enough bounce, or something. I don’t know. I couldn’t even tell where he was when he hit the ground due to the bizarreness of the camera angles, but someone was able to rez him, and yup, there he was, right back at the start. Again. So when someone said, ‘Hey, portal!’ I said ‘Oh, hell yes!’

If that’s lazy, fine. I’m lazy. If that’s an exploit, so be it. I’m a kitten dirty exploiter.

At this point I’m too frustrated to care. And still no jade weapon ticket, which is the only thing I’ve really wanted from this Dragon Bash celebration.

The camera has been this way since before release. I’ve done this thing normally on asura, sylvari. Doing it on charr is when I took a port. Screw that. You can’t even see most of the time.

Yeah, I refused to use a portal even after an hour and a half of pure failure. I decided to put together a quick video guide on how to actually run the puzzle just in case anybody wanted to do it legitimately.

Everyone who say’s a puzzle is easy, is a shorty. Completely different experience at full height. This one is too hard to not have it be segmented. Also, drops are insta-kills which I believe I’ve fallen from higher.

Well, compared to the dungeon it is a cakewalk.

Which dungeon? Because some of them are definitely cakewalks compared to this puzzle.

Did the puzzle normally the first time, then got to the diving goggles.

It wouldn’t have been necessary for me to port up again (and again and again) if not for the fact that you have to almost blindly dive down and hope you don’t hit something on the way down.

DeWolfe.2174:

Everyone who say’s a puzzle is easy, is a shorty. Completely different experience at full height. This one is too hard to not have it be segmented. Also, drops are insta-kills which I believe I’ve fallen from higher.

Just because you find something difficult, doesn’t mean other will as well. I personally found it very easy. The only real difficult part was near the end when going for the diving goggles. Trying to jump up those small rocks right before the levitating blue platforms near the end was a pain.

Well it’s up to them if they want to have fun and actually do the puzzle. Some people are just naturally horribad at jumping as well and at least there’s a way others can help them. I would suggest at least trying it first before resorting to portal, or at least afterwards.

I went through it normally, though I used some portals as a reset button for when I fell. It was a pretty fun puzzle. I think the parts that annoyed me the most was the super narrow sideways bars and that diagonal jump at the end of that series of narrow columns u fall down to from ship cache.

DeWolfe.2174:

Everyone who say’s a puzzle is easy, is a shorty. Completely different experience at full height. This one is too hard to not have it be segmented. Also, drops are insta-kills which I believe I’ve fallen from higher.

I am a widdle Sylvari.

You always see mesmers doing this to help out others, although this one is a little extreme hehe.

Anet should definitely patch the portal away if a Mesmer wp’s. But it is not actually necessary for a Mesmer to wp here, when you are inside the top chest where you are suppose to get to to complete the puzzle, it is really close to the inside entrance, all a mesmer has to do is jump down and wuala, portal!

But a Mesmer is not always going to be there, so I wouldn’t panic too much. I for one is going to try this puzzle cuz it is challenging, and well I love me some challenge.

But yeah, Anet should always keep in mind a Mesmer when doing things, cuz their portal can pretty much skip through almost all the content. And that just ruins the experience for players and the hard work that the devs put into.

Valmor.2639:

Yeah, I refused to use a portal even after an hour and a half of pure failure. I decided to put together a quick video guide on how to actually run the puzzle just in case anybody wanted to do it legitimately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAN7UcLQgjw

From watching this I see that I could probably have completed the main part of the puzzle on my own – if I hadn’t taken the path to the goggles. I didn’t know it was possible to skip that part.

I’ll try it again.

What I used portals for is quickly getting back to the place I failed. There were many portals that led to common places people fail so they didn’t have to keep redoing the same parts. Also a portal to the blimp and then a portal to the goggle platform was wonderful when I was trying to do the dive.

Portals only ruin things if you let them. If you want the seance of accomplishment then don’t use them.

I have completed the jumping puzzle about 5 times now. Twice with my human ele and three times with my human mesmer. I don’t think portals are a problem if someone wants to ask for a portal that is their choice. It doesn’t stop you from not using it. I personally use the portals as a safety net. On the harder jumps I will place a portal in case I fall so I can get back or if I know a lot of people have issues with an area I will place a portal for those who want to go around it. You dont have to take my portal you can go ahead and try the normal way.

Last night I was portaling people from the end chest back to the top of the airship, and a few portals from the ground to the airship. Why cause someone asked me. There were a fair amount of people trying to get to the goggles and doing the jump. So the portals were an easier way for them to get back up and try again without having to do the entire thing over again.

If you see a portal its your choice to take it, it wont ruin anything if you don’t take it, but for some a few tries and a portal looks like a good option. Its not like the person cant go back later and try it all without portals later.

I really breezed through this JP in only 3 tries. The only thing that annoyed me was the unreliable jump pads, that sometimes don’t launch you high enough. And making that dive from the top into the water is very tricky. But the JP itself, piece of cake.

Gasoline.2570:

Aside from buggy bouncers, the puzzle was easier than wintersday. You said hard? I expected clocktower.

I thought the clocktower and wintersday puzzles were much easier.

The Clocktower was pretty hard. Took me a lot of tries to finally make it. The Wintersday JP was a lot easier.

I’d say this new JP is somewhere in between in difficulty. It’s not as hard as the Griffonrook run. But not as easy as the Wintersday JP.

I thought it was hard… it took me two hours and I ragequit for maybe 10 minutes in the middle cause I kept missing the jump upwards after the lone aetherblade thug spawn point.

Kiriwar.7382:

I thought it was hard… it took me two hours and I ragequit for maybe 10 minutes in the middle cause I kept missing the jump upwards after the lone aetherblade thug spawn point.

Is that the part where you first jump to one of the sails, and then try to use the jump pad to launch yourself on top of one of the higher sails? Because that jump always gets me. The jump pad is kind of unreliable, especially at that jump.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Kiriwar.7382:

I thought it was hard… it took me two hours and I ragequit for maybe 10 minutes in the middle cause I kept missing the jump upwards after the lone aetherblade thug spawn point.

Is that the part where you first jump to one of the sails, and then try to use the jump pad to launch yourself on top of one of the higher sails? Because that jump always gets me. The jump pad is kind of unreliable, especially at that jump.

Yeah, that’s exactly that one. Half of the time it’d only push me up to the 2nd sail, the other half I’d miss the top sail and land either into the water-hole or the ground beneath the jump pad.

That jump gave me some trouble as well. Especially when you get falling damage, the jump pad doesn’t launch you high enough sometimes. A fellow player showed me that the jump is easier if you try to do the jump sideways, by strafing in mid air. It is easier to land the jump then. I’d also bounce on the jump pad a few times, till I got the jump height that I needed. Still, it is rather unreliable and buggy, I have to agree.

CryxTryx.9208:

(I will admit I don’t like them as much when they are so crowded, and because this one is not sticking around I don’t think I’ll get to see it when it is not, so that is a shame.)

Actually, it is sticking around. It’s a permanent new JP.

I wonder if it will still have Aetherblade spawns? And if so, how that will fit into the Living Story lore.