—-—Art Of Invasion [ART]——-
Gate of Madness
to come here and read the posts before WASTING my money on the crates from gem store…
karka shells? Really?
Why do I need to have a ridiculous low chance to get a SKIN when I use my real money on it.
I mean, what arenanet lose giving us a maybe… SINGLE ticket each 10 crates?
Its a skin on a fantasy world, for the money I work for on the real world. (Oh but u can farm cof all day to get ur gems? Great, I have a life so I dont have time for this.)
AGAIN it turns on a gacha, a lottery, like on mini pets from december event.
I’ll not support with my money this kind of attitude from Arenanet, and I hope you guys dont too.
I wouldnt have ANY problem if I was unluck at all, but it happened with everysingle person that brought theses crates…
They don give us a answer on any post about that topic, why? Because they want us to forget and be happy about the next patch.
They will not give our money back nor give us a gift (maybe our ticket??) for beign fools and trust once more on that company. Dont get me wrong, I know theres LOT of good ppl in there, but for some reason its happening over and over again, it doesnt looks like arenanet from gw1 at all…
So I was fooled once again, when I really think they have changed.
So I was fooled once again…
These threads make me so glad I’m intelligent. Sorry to hear about your dilemma.
I don’t think he’s unintelligent for being ripped off, just uninformed. The lottery legally has to tell you the odds of winning, Anet should have to as well. Would you buy RNG boxes with real money if they told you the weapon skin drop is 1/10000? Odds are you wouldn’t. This is the same reason the lottery is regulated. Some people would see that and say “heck I like those odds! I’m buying 100!” Many will see it and think “that’s…pretty terrible…no thanks”.
He shouldn’t have assumed the RNG would be better since he paid money, but I’d be angry as well (been in his shoes) and have not spent one red cent on any RNG items in the gem store since.
Welcome to the RNG burn center, Wraith, we’ve got a cot already set up for you.
DONT BUY ANY MORE RNG BOXES WITH REAL MONEY.
That’s the first rule here at the burn center.
The lottery legally has to tell you the odds of winning, Anet should have to as well.
The odds of winning either: REALLY BAD
There’s a reason the lotto is called the ‘stupid tax’, RNG boxes are the same.
i’ve been playing since beta and i saw many people complain about Anet’s chest lottery.
personally, i agree with people are being rip off for a ridiculous low change to get skin that they want when they paying money for it.
the solution to this is i think Anet should nerf the drop chance of BLkeys or crate and then increase chance to get skin from chest.
if the drop chance for BLkey low, people will buy it from cash shop. and when they paying money to buy it from cash shop, they get skin they want. everyone happy.
Nerf the drop rate of BL keys? I haven’t had a key drop in months and buying them from the cash shop is stupid because the boxes invariably contain garbage. Put better stuff in the boxes and you might see me buy a key, but as of now I’m better off shoving a dollar in quarters up my nose than buying a BL key with the same money, at least my friends would get entertainment out of laughing at the quarters stuck in my nose as they drive me to the ER.
@OP
Those skins they make also cost them money to make, and its their job from which they make a living just like you do with your job.
Also, RNG boxes are nothing new its their model for quite a while (dating back to gw1 too, even when there wassnt cash shop there were rng boxes durring holiday seasons). Nobody is forcing you to buy them, you wanted new skin so you bought them. So you bought rng boxes, didnt get what you expected and you would like your money back? Really?
Like a guy that bought lottery ticket, didnt hit jackpot and wants his money back…Some people should learn to spend money with responsibility.
My biggest issue is that all the money from the gem store doesn’t directly support Anet and GW2. It directly supports NCSoft, who uses those funds as they wish whether for GW2 or any of their other titles (Lineage, Wildstar, etc). It wasn’t until recently when NCSoft finally gave the go ahead to START plans for an expansion in 2014.
I think if they had just made the weapons sellable on the tp there would have been less people upset.
Yeah that would have been awesome, I don’t like the weapon skins and would have gladly sold the ticket I got for a bunch ’o gold.
I really think NCsoft is hurting the overall good of ArenaNet. Such a shame to see.
@OP
Those skins they make also cost them money to make, and its their job from which they make a living just like you do with your job.
Also, RNG boxes are nothing new its their model for quite a while (dating back to gw1 too, even when there wassnt cash shop there were rng boxes durring holiday seasons). Nobody is forcing you to buy them, you wanted new skin so you bought them. So you bought rng boxes, didnt get what you expected and you would like your money back? Really?
Like a guy that bought lottery ticket, didnt hit jackpot and wants his money back…Some people should learn to spend money with responsibility.
I don’t think he wants his money back. I think he’s just kitten ed lol. And rightly so. I personally don’t have a problem with a paid RNG box. My problem is that any intelligent person would like to have an idea what sort of odds they have at winning. If the odds are like lottery chances then people are making an informed, albeit a stupid, decision to purchase them. By not saying what the odds are, people get burned and don’t want anything to do with it after the first experience.
It’s the same as lottery. You know what your chances are and do it anyway. If you lose you have no one to blame but yourself. In this case, you hope the chances are decent, when you find out they aren’t, you’re out some $$ and rightly so, but that is absolutely NO way to keep people purchasing that particular store item. You can’t blame yourself the first time because you really didn’t know how well your chances were from the start. Now the second time you get burned that’s all on you. You should have learned the first time.
I guarantee that as time goes on they will have burned enough people that RNG boxes will stop selling and they will change it.
Right now I think the game is too early and there are far too many people trying it to learn how bad it actually is so they keep doing it.
There’s a new convert every day, though, I can assure you of that.
My crystal ball says that in 1 year they will either post % chances for items in the RNG boxes and/or those items will be able to be purchased individually at much higher gem costs. It’s really the only sensible way to do it.
I bought a few costumes in Guild Wars 1 outright because I knew exactly what I was getting for my money. I’m willing to do the same in Guild Wars 2 to support ArenaNet if I know exactly what I’m getting/what my odds are. For example, I bought one of the panda hats. And I’ve bought the unlimited harvesting tools. Personally, I’d rather just buy an item I want directly and not have to put up with these RNG boxes that only have a “rare chance” of getting me what I actually want. If I’m paying real money for something, I want to know what I’m getting.
These RNG boxes have really soured my opinion of ArenaNet. They’re nothing more than a scheme to make a quick profit. It’s a really poor business model for the long term. In the short term it’s probably fine since there will be people that fall for it (hell, I fell for it initially and I feel terrible about it). In the long run, I think this strategy is going to hurt sales more than help them. At the very least it’s going to create a lot of very disgruntled customers and that is NOT good for the health or longevity of a game.
I think Guild Wars 2, ArenaNet, and the living story are all great. But this RNG weapon ticket strategy is something I simply cannot support. I think it’s rather dishonest and it does more to hurt the game/community than it does to help it. I’ve read so many posts about people getting tickets and not even caring about the weapons while people that really want them have spent tons of gold/real money and farmed an ungodly number of hours just for a chance to get them. Yet they haven’t found a single ticket. There’s something seriously wrong with this, especially if real money is in play. It isn’t rewarding for players who genuinely work at obtaining something to repeatedly get burned over and over again. It damages player morale, it isn’t fun, and it ultimately just lowers player opinion of ArenaNet.
My biggest issue is that all the money from the gem store doesn’t directly support Anet and GW2. It directly supports NCSoft, who uses those funds as they wish whether for GW2 or any of their other titles (Lineage, Wildstar, etc). It wasn’t until recently when NCSoft finally gave the go ahead to START plans for an expansion in 2014.
Is there a source for these statements?
People have got to stop buying this junk. When it stops being profitable to exploit people like this, they will stop doing it. For as long as people can be exploited like this, ArenaNet will keep doing it.
The lottery legally has to tell you the odds of winning, Anet should have to as well.
The odds of winning either: REALLY BAD
There’s a reason the lotto is called the ‘stupid tax’, RNG boxes are the same.
I have actually heard a smart person make a good argument for lottery tickets, actually. It basically boils down to ‘yes, statistically it’s a losing proposition, but if you DO win it’ll make such a big influence on your life that spending the odd bit of cash that you can afford in that direction is worth it just so you have a shot.’
A similar argument, incidentally, applies to asteroid impact countermeasures – odds of an impact occurring any time in the next thousand years, let alone our lifetimes, are astronomically low, but the potential catastrophic results of beating those odds means that throwing some resources that we can afford towards countermeasures is worth it.
Such arguments, however, could not be made toward any real money for RNG boxes that ANet might introduce (which I don’t believe in, having made my Will save to disbelieve illusions on all such supposed content so far). A ticket is not going to change your life or make any substantial difference to your play experience once the novelty wears off, so funneling real or virtual money into the losing proposition of trying for one just isn’t worth it.
I´m not liking it at all either, but RNG boxes are standard way of monetization in pretty much all F2P games I know of, not necessarily Asian-only.
Nobody is forcing you to buy them and if you can´t keep your greed for “fashion” in check and have to enter the lottery, then I fear it´s entirely your fault.
At least they do add some skins to the Gem-store, guess we have to be happy with that.
I´m not liking it at all either, but RNG boxes are standard way of monetization in pretty much all F2P games I know of, not necessarily Asian-only.
Nobody is forcing you to buy them and if you can´t keep your greed for “fashion” in check and have to enter the lottery, then I fear it´s entirely your fault.
At least they do add some skins to the Gem-store, guess we have to be happy with that.
Yah.. no. Not happy with that at all. Not going to settle for it at all either. Guild Wars 2 was about breaking standards. I hate this in any game and in turn is turning me off from the game.
“We founded ArenaNet to innovate, so Guild Wars 2 is our opportunity to question everything, to make a game that defies existing conventions.” – Mike O’Brien
Lockboxes are an existing convention. Its about time for it to be broken. Because it is certainly questionable.
I´m not liking it at all either, but RNG boxes are standard way of monetization in pretty much all F2P games I know of, not necessarily Asian-only.
Nobody is forcing you to buy them and if you can´t keep your greed for “fashion” in check and have to enter the lottery, then I fear it´s entirely your fault.
At least they do add some skins to the Gem-store, guess we have to be happy with that.
Yah.. no. Not happy with that at all. Not going to settle for it at all either. Guild Wars 2 was about breaking standards. I hate this in any game and in turn is turning me off from the game.
“We founded ArenaNet to innovate, so Guild Wars 2 is our opportunity to question everything, to make a game that defies existing conventions.” – Mike O’Brien
Lockboxes are an existing convention. Its about time for it to be broken. Because it is certainly questionable.
Its profitable way to fund their inovative game ideas.
I cant understand why all the fuss about those boxes, if you want those skins you can try to get them or you can ignore them like i did if you dont like them.
My biggest issue is that all the money from the gem store doesn’t directly support Anet and GW2. It directly supports NCSoft, who uses those funds as they wish whether for GW2 or any of their other titles (Lineage, Wildstar, etc). It wasn’t until recently when NCSoft finally gave the go ahead to START plans for an expansion in 2014.
You realize all NCsoft game profits goes to NCsoft and then they pay salaries for GW2 and other games right? Said money is what allowed GW2 to be made in the first place.
(edited by Celestina.2894)
Not affiliated with ArenaNet or NCSOFT. No support is provided.
All assets, page layout, visual style belong to ArenaNet and are used solely to replicate the original design and preserve the original look and feel.
Contact /u/e-scrape-artist on reddit if you encounter a bug.