Veteran Karka Retaliation - what causes it?

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Posted by: binidj.5734

binidj.5734

So the veteran karka mobs have a Retaliation effect that stacks in duration, frequently (in my experience at least) lasting the entire fight. Does anyone know how the karka acquire their stacks of Retaliation? I’m more interested in finding a way around the boon than a solution that involves hiring a Necromancer to follow me around.

At the moment, unless I’m playing a Guardian, the Retaliation is downing me more than anything else.

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Posted by: Linguistically Inept.6583

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id like to know this too; i wasnt attacking for half of the fights because id end up killing myself

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Posted by: Nihilus.3015

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Hiring a thief to steal it.

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Posted by: Wesnoth.1705

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Hiring a thief to steal it.

..and than hiring another class to ress the thief

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Posted by: White Dragon.5429

White Dragon.5429

I noticed that the karka loses the retaliation when it sheds its leg armor. Maybe it’s a phase 1 mechanic in the 2 phase fight?

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Posted by: GoldenTruth.2853

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Vet karka gain retaliation when they pull all their legs in and it states they are evading.

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Posted by: deviller.9135

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Its usually happen when it in phase 1: 75%, 50%, 25%, 0% hp (it will evade all of your attack during this time (shell begins to break slowly)).

Counter ? Necro, Mesmer, Thief. Or you may want to kite until it dissipate.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

When the Karka pull their legs in, evading all attacks, it will also gain Retaliation, Protection, and Stability, it will do this at 75%, 50%, and 25% health while it has a shell, once the shell is completely removed at 0% it will gain regen.

I personally LOVE fighting Karka because i get so much Retal, prot, and stability when i steal it all on my mesmer >=D!

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Posted by: Serval.6458

Serval.6458

Protip: Don’t Wall of Reflection a volley of acid pools back under one when it has retal. up.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

Protip: Don’t Wall of Reflection a volley of acid pools back under one when it has retal. up.

-_-’ I feel your pain… i did this yesterday with feedback…. worst…mistake…EVER.

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Posted by: Creeper.9360

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I find it rather amazing how few times people try remove the boons off of them.

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Posted by: EverythingXen.1835

EverythingXen.1835

Tried. Didnt work.

Oh wait, my profession cant do that.

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Posted by: Deekers.2031

Deekers.2031

anyone know if sigil of nullification would work to remove that retaliation?

another problem i have in that zone is reef drake applying confusion thus causing me to nearly kill myself if i use skills, would sigil of purification or generosity help there?

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Posted by: Hebee.8460

Hebee.8460

I would think so. I planned on making weapons with nullification sigil just so all my grenades on engineer would defiantly be clearing all boons. My Mines already remove a boon on the main ability & 5 boons from toolbelt ability so I’m sure nullification works.

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Posted by: Frans.7930

Frans.7930

I would think so. I planned on making weapons with nullification sigil just so all my grenades on engineer would defiantly be clearing all boons. My Mines already remove a boon on the main ability & 5 boons from toolbelt ability so I’m sure nullification works.

I had not thought of that. Will look into doing that as well.

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Posted by: binidj.5734

binidj.5734

I would think so. I planned on making weapons with nullification sigil just so all my grenades on engineer would defiantly be clearing all boons. My Mines already remove a boon on the main ability & 5 boons from toolbelt ability so I’m sure nullification works.

Oh that’s a top-tip … I shall look into this at once!

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Posted by: Mastruq.2463

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I do play a mesmer and while stealing the boons is ‘neat’, the cooldowns prevent me from taking them off all the time unless I carry 3 boon removals as utility. And most people dont seem to bother with it.

Since I like the mobs having diverse abilities this is basically a request to the devs for more skill variety!

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Posted by: Swimsasa Stoon.8936

Swimsasa Stoon.8936

me elementalist with 700 healing power, I heal myself every time I use a skill and since I heal myself for just as much as the retaliation does dmg I’m doing just fine (barely).
Since we don’t have any boon-hate skills on us that’s the only way I’ve found to deal with it. Confusion stacking up to 7 was horrible. I would dodge the aoe thing that gives the confusion but then the drake would pull me right into it again… Don’t like drakes at all!

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Posted by: Boomslang.4352

Boomslang.4352

anyone know if sigil of nullification would work to remove that retaliation?

another problem i have in that zone is reef drake applying confusion thus causing me to nearly kill myself if i use skills, would sigil of purification or generosity help there?

Curious about this too. The confusion stacks really high and the duration is quite long. These drakes will kill any zerg you throw at them during the escort mission.

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Posted by: CMF.5461

CMF.5461

Another answer could be user slower/heavier hitting weapons/attacks during retal phases as retal only does damage per a hit and not per skill activation. While confusion damages on skill activation and not per a hit, so with confusion use fast multi attacking skills to get more damage in between each confusion tick.

That is if you can’t “not” attack or strip the condition/boons off.

Also retal does not tick on condition damage so you can apply those for “non attack” phases with retal/confusion.

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Posted by: binidj.5734

binidj.5734

Tried the sigil yesterday and it worked very well indeed. Obviously the more people using them (or other boon removal skills) the better as the sigil appears to have an invisible cooldown and if there was more than one boon on the veteran it wouldn’t always strip the retaliation. On the whole, though, my experience yesterday was much less frustrating.

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Posted by: Elidath.5679

Elidath.5679

Well, why shouldn’t the sigil work ? It remove boons. It is a boon. So it removes it. Exactly what it says on the tin.
Really, sometime people should just stop overthinking so much

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Posted by: PopeUrban.2578

PopeUrban.2578

Hiring a thief to steal it.

..and than hiring another class to ress the thief

I solo them on my thief regularly. Sometimes two at once if they’re both female egg layers.

Thieves are only as squishy as you build them.

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