Guild Wars 2

Is there a difference in the rewards if you fail or complete the events? Did this 3 times and 3 times the server failed. I got different rewards each time… even though it was failing all the 3 times.

Are rewards different if the server completes instead of failing(other than being able to do Scarlet if you complete all the waves – for Scarlet achievement)?
Are there diminishing returns? Or does it depend on how long you stayed on that map(cause the lower rewards I got were when I only joined the last minutes and barely completey 1 small sub-event).

Also how does it count to the achievements that count the event completion? Is this random? I heard at Dulfy that for some people it counted failed events. Same for me. I did 3 failed and it counted 2. Unfortunately it did not count Fireheart Rise where I only joined the last few minutes(I could have needed this for the other achievement with Frostgorge and Fireheart).

So it might count if you fail… if you stayed there for some time long enough(and did not count for my last one because I only joined the last few minutes and did not complete enough sub-events)?

Reward on failure is dependent on how many waves you got through.

If you read the notes and blog you will see there are personal rewards, map wide rewards even for trying.

Clockwork Minions Invade
*Complete additional waves of the invasion for an increasingly lucrative map-wide reward.
*Map-wide rewards are limited to once per account, per day, per map. For example, players who claim the map-wide reward for an invasion in the Gendarran Fields will only be able to claim invasion rewards in other maps until the following day.
*Complete all waves of an invasion to unlock a bonus battle with Scarlet.
*Defeat Scarlet for a daily world-boss reward of two guaranteed rare items.

Yeah. I read the blog notes. Only wanted to know what Xae Isareth told me. Did not know this from the blog notes cause you never know how ArenaNet means what they write… could still have meant that YOU needed to be there for some time instead of going there the last minute and gaining full rewards.

You get the achievement whether or not the invasion succeeded (those for “stop invasion in XX zones” and “stop invasion in frostgorge/fireheart” at least, plus those for Vorpp).

As for rewards, you get (data from personal experience):
- 10 scraps or 1 chest for wave 2 reached but not beaten and support creatures not beaten;
- 40 scraps or 4 chest for wave three reached but not beaten, support creature beaten;
- 50 scraps or 5 chests for winning event.
From that, I guess that you get 10 scraps or 1 chest for each wave/support wave beaten.

You don’t need to personally beat scarlet to win the meta event, as long as someone do it you get those full rewards.
Scarlet has her own reward in the form of two yellows once a day, but you can’t defeat her before beating wave 3. She appears before, but always leave at fixed % of life. Don’t waste time on her.

For the achievement this is not correct… at least not if you only join the last minutes. It seems you need to to a bit fighting for it to count. At my 4th fail where I only joined at the end I got rewards but no achievement. Still at 2 there.

(But it seems for Vorpp it is a bit bugged and I got messages and the Vorpp meta counting 3 when I still did not complete 5 invasions… seems I completed the next subevent already which is locked still).

Edit:
Getting to Scarlet but not killing her(out of time):
- 50 scraps or 5 stash + 3 gear boxes + 2 coin purses + 2 ritualist bags

For achievement: Also might depend on to which wave you get. The ones that failed for me which didn’t count to achievement I think we did not get too far.