Queen's Assassination plot

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Posted by: Zaeon.3846

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… queen will be assassinated during her speech
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…. don’t worry the one killed will be a queen’s double, a mechanical watchknight magically cloaked to look like her.

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Posted by: Vol.5241

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I’m not sure if they can assassinate her. Isn’t she an integral part of the personal story?

Can’t fix that.

If anything
-she will get kidnapped
-one of the disposable living story characters get cut, such as Kiel, Rox, Braham, e.t.c
-DR gets sacked and we see permanent changes to the city ala LA

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Being an integral part of the personal story is no protection. Outside of the personal story she only exists in small closed space – which could be changed by the events of the living story which take place AFTER she’s played her part in the personal story.

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.

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Being an integral part of the personal story is no protection. Outside of the personal story she only exists in small closed space – which could be changed by the events of the living story which take place AFTER she’s played her part in the personal story.

She does play an integral part. In fact she is involved in one mission (human story lvl 28) where you need to protect her.

How exactly are they going to change that up? They can’t.

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If the living story is set after the personal story (and it is) then they can make changes to the throneroom instanced space. If after this event she can’t be found in the general purpose open version – but still works just the same in the closed versions you access via Personal Story we get to actually move forward as a setting. Something they seem keen on being able to do.

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I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
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Being an integral part of the personal story is no protection. Outside of the personal story she only exists in small closed space – which could be changed by the events of the living story which take place AFTER she’s played her part in the personal story.

She does play an integral part. In fact she is involved in one mission (human story lvl 28) where you need to protect her.

How exactly are they going to change that up? They can’t.

Zhaitan is involved in much more of the Personal Story and he’s dead now. The Personal Story is past events. The Queen only exists in instances. Players will be able to play through the Personal Story as it happened without worrying about how it clashes with the Living Story or the open world. At some point the Personal Story has to be treated as past events otherwise every single plot and character set up by it is set in stone and frozen in time, and that puts a huge restriction on the world. The argument that it happened in the personal story so it can’t be touched in the Living Story makes no sense if they want to tell more stories in the world.

I agree with the OP. We have robots pretending to be something they are not using mesmer magic. We have a threat to the Queen’s life and two powerful mesmers to do something about it. Anise was suspiciously quick to shut Logan down when he said they should move the Queen to safety. At first I though she might be up to something, but at this point it makes more sense that the Queen is a mesmer illusion and Anise is using her to draw out Scarlet. It’s the classic body guard tactic (the other theory is that Anise and Jennah pulled a Padme and swapped places). I suspect part of the reason why Anise was made a mesmer was for the story potential of using a illusions to protect the Queen.

Anise’s job is to protect the Queen, yet the Pavilion and the Watchknights were proven to be a considerable threat to her. Without batting an eyelash, Anise said they shouldn’t cancel things because that’s what the Aetherblades want. I think Anise is setting a trap. She thinks she is one step ahead of them and a fake Queen is her way of drawing Scarlet out. Logan has been left out of the loop to make it more believable.

The part of this that doesn’t make sense to me, is why would Anise think someone was threatening the Queen’s life? If they are using a Watchknight or mesmer illusion to swap places, is this standard practice to them or is there some conflict with the Aetherblades/Scarlet and the humans that we don’t know about?

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Being an integral part of the personal story is no protection. Outside of the personal story she only exists in small closed space – which could be changed by the events of the living story which take place AFTER she’s played her part in the personal story.

She does play an integral part. In fact she is involved in one mission (human story lvl 28) where you need to protect her.

How exactly are they going to change that up? They can’t.

Zhaitan is involved in much more of the Personal Story and he’s dead now. The Personal Story is past events. The Queen only exists in instances. Players will be able to play through the Personal Story as it happened without worrying about how it clashes with the Living Story or the open world. At some point the Personal Story has to be treated as past events otherwise every single plot and character set up by it is set in stone and frozen in time, and that puts a huge restriction on the world. The argument that it happened in the personal story so it can’t be touched in the Living Story makes no sense if they want to tell more stories in the world.

I agree with the OP. We have robots pretending to be something they are not using mesmer magic. We have a threat to the Queen’s life and two powerful mesmers to do something about it. Anise was suspiciously quick to shut Logan down when he said they should move the Queen to safety. At first I though she might be up to something, but at this point it makes more sense that the Queen is a mesmer illusion and Anise is using her to draw out Scarlet. It’s the classic body guard tactic (the other theory is that Anise and Jennah pulled a Padme and swapped places). I suspect part of the reason why Anise was made a mesmer was for the story potential of using a illusions to protect the Queen.

Anise’s job is to protect the Queen, yet the Pavilion and the Watchknights were proven to be a considerable threat to her. Without batting an eyelash, Anise said they shouldn’t cancel things because that’s what the Aetherblades want. I think Anise is setting a trap. She thinks she is one step ahead of them and a fake Queen is her way of drawing Scarlet out. Logan has been left out of the loop to make it more believable.

The part of this that doesn’t make sense to me, is why would Anise think someone was threatening the Queen’s life? If they are using a Watchknight or mesmer illusion to swap places, is this standard practice to them or is there some conflict with the Aetherblades/Scarlet and the humans that we don’t know about?

It doesn’t matter that Zhaitan is dead and the personal story is behind in times.

It’s about presenting an open world with NPC’s without spoiling the story. The open world needs to operate in a sense that it happens before the personal story. At the most, it should be neutral.

So while Zhaitan is dead, the dialog in the world does not indicate otherwise. Even the dialog among NPC’s in Orr do not state this. They just play it safe and talk about making it to the city of Arah and cleaning the corruption.

If they were to kill the Queen, it would be very odd and not appropriate story telling to have her appear in the personal story, especially since the personal story is not meant to be a ‘flashback’ but rather a current plot.

If they were to kill of Queen Jennah, they would have to make

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I’m not sure if they can assassinate her. Isn’t she an integral part of the personal story?

Can’t fix that.

If anything
-she will get kidnapped
-one of the disposable living story characters get cut, such as Kiel, Rox, Braham, e.t.c
-DR gets sacked and we see permanent changes to the city ala LA

I didn’t say she is going to die. Maybe you didn’t read the entirety of my post.