Guild Wars 2

Again. Silliness. Your reasoning is weak opinion at best. Bottom line is if you don’t enjoy it don’t do it.

like i said, i just failed and got the progress, nothing is patched.

You get progress for failing…..

As for the 10 minute no-invasion overflows… yeah, there really is no excuse for that. It was ill-conceived at best.

I agree with the part about getting in before the 10 min mark, and understand about the afkers. But would like to say, as far as the event (when I get in) I absolutely love it. Now I can’t speak for all servers, but on mine they seem pretty organized and have a high desire to complete the event instead of just farming. I’m sure there are times on GoM there are problems, but I have not had to endure any. Was able to complete all 13 maps with wins. Took a couple times on 2 of the maps.

I like the event… to a large degree.

I do love the feel of an epic invasion, and being a small cog in a huge machine to fight against it. The crashes I suffered today… less so.

But I agree fully at the requirement to play all day to get the invasion achievements. 13x 35-45 mins is a lot of play time for those with time constraints. And then to crash from the LAST map I needed… well I flipped tables. I don’t care if my rant garnered me an infraction, thats how I felt about that slice of mudcake.

You don’t need the achievements. You don’t need to play all day. To get the mini you only need to a few more battle zones than you need to get into the playhouse.

Even if you don’t get into the playhouse and don’t get the mini there’s always next month. If this update has filled all your gaming time with something to do then that’s great. Having gaming time in an MMO with nothing to do is the time you erase it from your hard drive.

As for the ten minute mark, if you have a guild you can ask for an invite from a guildie who is doing the event, which will pull you into an active overflow.

It’s a matter of opinion. I like the update and the Lost Shores is in my top 3.

Gibson.4036:

As for the ten minute mark, if you have a guild you can ask for an invite from a guildie who is doing the event, which will pull you into an active overflow.

That’s been tried, you get messages that the overflow is full or the world that they’re in is full.

Maybe when these are permanent it won’t be such a big deal to have everyone on a server concentrated on one map but right now during the limited time event, you can literally be thrown into an overflow 5s after the invasion is announced and people start waypointing in.

frostyraziel.1854:

It’s a matter of opinion. I like the update and the Lost Shores is in my top 3.

The reason why Lost Shores was bad was because it was extremely laggy, a lot of people got bugged out and disconnected and had massive framerate issues because of the number of people that were in the area. If you were on a lower population server it may have been good but on somewhere like Tarnished Coast or Jade Quarry it was a mess.

So many people crashed that anet had to go out and hand out rewards in the mail to make up for people crashing and dc’ing. So people who got the complete event done managed to get multiple rewards.

One friend of mine got completely turned off from the entire game because he crashed at the beginning of the last phase of the ancient karka fight and didn’t get the reward and for some reason it didn’t get counted by anet and he didn’t get a reward in the mail, so to him it was 3 hours of lag and slideshow and frustration with culling all for nothing.

Devildoc.6721:

frostyraziel.1854:

It’s a matter of opinion. I like the update and the Lost Shores is in my top 3.

The reason why Lost Shores was bad was because it was extremely laggy, a lot of people got bugged out and disconnected and had massive framerate issues because of the number of people that were in the area. If you were on a lower population server it may have been good but on somewhere like Tarnished Coast or Jade Quarry it was a mess.

So many people crashed that anet had to go out and hand out rewards in the mail to make up for people crashing and dc’ing. So people who got the complete event done managed to get multiple rewards.

One friend of mine got completely turned off from the entire game because he crashed at the beginning of the last phase of the ancient karka fight and didn’t get the reward and for some reason it didn’t get counted by anet and he didn’t get a reward in the mail, so to him it was 3 hours of lag and slideshow and frustration with culling all for nothing.

And then there was the issue of the bugged scavenger hunt and the event chest handing out precursors at a rate that infuriated the community – a lot of people got them for little effort while the rest felt ripped off.

When you put all the issues together, Lost Shores was easily the worst release the game has had – especially when one factors in the kitten addition of Ascended Gear.

Devildoc.6721:

4. The funhouse is gated behind doing these invasions successfully, which afker’s can prevent from ever happening if you constantly get in an overflow. So if you keep getting the same freaking maps, and get in overflows that fail constantly, you’re pooched from ever seeing a good chunk of this update’s content.

This is flat out wrong.

The achievements to get to the playhouse/back into the arena are dependent on just being there, win or lose.

Hell, all of the achievements are like that except for the one to kill Scarlet.

Best event ever 10/10,but they should change the name of the event THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!

I’ll be the first to say i was looking forward to this event, and like the said content but havent been able to see any of it. 5 hrs and can’t get into a single event.

I do agree this needs to be done on EVERY map this way ppl can actually get into events and do the meta if they like doing achievements. I don’t want minis but I’d like to finish the meta before it’s over.

Wrong, if you aren’t successful in the event you do not get credit for Vorpp’s achievements.

Ant.3415:

Wrong, if you aren’t successful in the event you do not get credit for Vorpp’s achievements.

That’s wrong. I’ve completed all the meta-achievements and a lot of the Invasions I took part in (including the final 13/13 one, which was in Mount Maelstrom for me) was a failure, not a success.

thefantasticg.3984:

Again. Silliness. Your reasoning is weak opinion at best. Bottom line is if you don’t enjoy it don’t do it.

An overused and baseless argument. If you disagree, point out the flaws in their statement and explain why you feel changes are not needed. To just spew this same trite line of hyperbole helps no one.

No, read the achievements. All of them refer to “Stopping” not just participating.

I’ve participated in 6 invasions, and I’m 2/5 on the Vorrp Portal Invasion Closer, and 2/13 on Invasion Canceler. So if you are getting credit on failures then that’s a bug in your favor.

There are other threads about it such as:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/merged-Invasion-Canceler-not-advancing

I liked it at first. Now I’m tired of it but I have 2 more maps to do. So close and yet so far because it glitched so I don’t know what 1 of those 2 maps even is. I’ve never made it to my server for this. Always I’m in overflow.

Don’t diss Ancient Karka. I liked that event.

At least the Karka were a challenge and could wipe out an entire zerg rush.

This is just zerg spamming mobs.

how are people having so much trouble getting into the events dear lord.
I mean I understand having a life and all that but if you so desperately want to get into the event just /look at your clock/.
it’s always on the hour (or VERY close to it)
so when the hours comes and here’s the tricky part
go to the zone
congratulations.
it’s not like you have to hit every one, space it out a bit. if you’re on guild wars, and you see it’s like 11:49
be like
oh cool I can burn 10 minutes and then port to wherever the map is! that is much easier than crying endlessly on the forums!
TADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
doofuses.

thefantasticg.3984:

Again. Silliness. Your reasoning is weak opinion at best. Bottom line is if you don’t enjoy it don’t do it.

What nonsense! Why should players avoid fresh content when it is the very thing preventing the game from becoming stale in the first place? Most of the complaints are valid and very apt – content is being pumped out far too quickly, is temporary and you end up competing with or being screwed over by other players which is a direct violation of the supposed core values of the game that the developers are swift to bring up whenever they talk about their vision for the future, past and present.

Garenthal.1480:

thefantasticg.3984:

Again. Silliness. Your reasoning is weak opinion at best. Bottom line is if you don’t enjoy it don’t do it.

What nonsense! Why should players avoid fresh content when it is the very thing preventing the game from becoming stale in the first place? Most of the complaints are valid and very apt – content is being pumped out far too quickly, is temporary and you end up competing with or being screwed over by other players which is a direct violation of the supposed core values of the game that the developers are swift to bring up whenever they talk about their vision for the future, past and present.

I agree. Whenever a new car comes out, I MUST have that car. I don’t care that it’s a waste of time because I don’t like cars, nor do I care that it’s useless for me to sell my car to get that new car. It’s new and it prevents my cars from becoming stale.

Note: Car is synonymous with content.

I agree with the OP. I’m not even trying to get all the achievements, all I want to do is see the storyline (believe it or not there are people who care about the Story part of the Living Story) and unlock the Gauntlet so I can try and beat Liadri before the event is over.

Unfortunately for me I get a maximum of 3 hours to play on weeknights, if I do absolutely nothing else with my free time, and slightly more on weekends when I’m at home (aka not this one when I’m away the entire time).

If I log in and an event started 10 minutes ago I can either go and do something else for 50 minutes or waste it trying to get into one of the few overflows, which has only actually worked once. So there’s a good chance I’ve lost 1/3 of my playtime and one of my 3 chances that night right from the start. If I log in between events the outcome is the same – there will only be 2 I can try for that night.

If I am on at the right time I then have to contend with disconnects, low FPS and all the other problems which mean I could be kicked out and unable to get back in, or simply unable to play enough to get credit (and normally I have very good internet, I’ve had 2 copies of GW2 and 2 of GW1 running on the same computer while my husband streamed a movie before now).

The upshot of all this is that since the event started I’ve only been able to get credit for finishing 4 invasions and I’m starting to feel like I’ll never finish the storyline and certainly never get a shot at beating Liadri.

The really annoying part of this however is that I was under the impression Anet had learned from the karka event and had said they were never going to try that again. But apparently all they took away from it is that 1-time only events don’t work, not that the majority of problems came from trying to get everyone to play on the same map at the same time.

We also went through the same thing on a smaller scale with the world boss events when they first added guaranteed rares.

All of this could be solved if they’d have invasions occurring on even just 2 maps at once, although 3 or 4 would be better. It wouldn’t allow people to farm more than they already do because they could only play through one event at a time, but it would spread the players out and make it easier for everyone who wants to to join in.

I loved Ancient Karka, even with my low end laptop and i enjoy this event too. I am not entirely amazed by this event but it is good.

The only thing that really annoys me about it is the map selection. I am missing 3 still, those being Iron Marches, Frostgorge Sound, and Lornar’s Pass, and they just never pop. I had Iron Marches pop once, but I had to log out right at that moment.

However, I’ve done Sparkfly Fen like 10 times, Hirathi Hinterlands at least 5, and at least a few Bloodtide Coast (which has a ton of buggy spots) and Mount Malestrom. On one day, I actually did Sparkfly Fen 3 times in 6 hours, which was just stupid.

I don’t mind having achievements, but I do mind having achievements that are only obtainable through means completely outside my control. With other achievements, me not getting them is largely due to me not putting in the effort to get them. In this case, it’s just the random generation screwing me over, which is not fun. An “achievement” should be just that, something you achieve. There is no achievement in just waiting to see what an RNG spits out at you. Thing like this is one of the reason people hate achievements in games, although in this case there’s actually an in-game incentive to complete such achievements.

So please, no more achievements in the future that basically require you to be logged on every hour to see what an RNG spits at you.

If you play at the same time you can get all the maps done. It was confirmed before.
I’ve also got credit for failing an invasion and lastly just put culling on lowest and you won’t have a problem with the game.

Devildoc.6721:

Now mind you the Ancient Karka remains the worst because it was buggy and laggy and a FPS slideshow.

This event kills my desire to play GW2. Why? Here’s the reasons:

1. If you log on to do an event and it’s past 10 min after, just give up, you won’t be able to get into an overflow with an active invasion. Yes, you can just “wait an hour and do something else” but realistically, an hour is not enough time to do anything actually productive and fun, but too long to just sit around waiting for the next invasion. It makes me just want to log off instead and say screw it.
2. AFK’ers in the overflows often cause failures to the event, which don’t progress your achievements so that you can do the gated content or work towards the tonic.
3. The lack of a schedule to the maps means whenver I log on to see what zone is being invaded, it’s often a zone I’ve already done. I have sparkfly, harathi, fireheart, and dredgehaunt cliffs done. That’s always what I see up running, I’ve already done them, so it doesn’t progress achievements, so why bother, again, waiting an hour for the next one just makes you want to log off and do something else.
4. The funhouse is gated behind doing these invasions successfully, which afker’s can prevent from ever happening if you constantly get in an overflow. So if you keep getting the same freaking maps, and get in overflows that fail constantly, you’re pooched from ever seeing a good chunk of this update’s content.

The hourly invasions should happen on all 13 maps, or at least 3-4 maps at once every hour until Sept 3rd when this event is over, and THEN when they’re permanent invasions it can go to 1 map per hour. Either that or have a predictable schedule so that people who need certain maps can work in what time they log in.

This current system just doesn’t work unless you play ALL DAY and poopsock this event. Play a couple hours a day? You’re betting on RNG to get different maps and hoping not to end up in fail overflows.

This event is a 2/10.

1. 10 minutes is quite a large window to get into an event. I think 1/6th of an hour is fine window to simply zone into a zone you can get to with just a few clicks without even running.

2. AFK players are an issue. That being said even if you had a few the events scale by who is actually near it not the players on the map ie even on packed maps some events without champions can be done by just a few players.

3. the lack of a schedule has been an issue for many. I will not disagree with you here so much as the schedule is pretty random. If you do events around the same time each day by now you should be done or nearly done with many if not all the 13 zones needed.

4. The fun house has a low gate. And I do not know about you but it took me 6 events to get it done and not all them were ones where we completed each stage. Last I saw it counted either way but I could be wrong. That being said you can push a complete simply by not running with the zerg. Get a couple of buddies and just do the events on the side of the amp the commanders are not going after. You do not need huge numbers to get every event done.

My only issue with this event is it drains every single open world pve player.

Behemot surface and stay alive for 1hr.

Madness!

But i guess it won’t be a problem anymore from 3 Sept on when they’ll remove this LS part and reduce the respawn of invasions.

If you miss the 10 minute mark, and you want to do something else, there is plenty of time.

For example, if you miss it, instead of doing something for 1 hr, do something for 2 hrs, or 3 or 4. The event happens every hour.

AndrewSX.3794:

My only issue with this event is it drains every single open world pve player.

Behemot surface and stay alive for 1hr.

Madness!

But i guess it won’t be a problem anymore from 3 Sept on when they’ll remove this LS part and reduce the respawn of invasions.

Exactly why Im annoyed by it. It just empties the entire world. The Karka event was fun in comparison to this.

Esplen.3940:

Ant.3415:

Wrong, if you aren’t successful in the event you do not get credit for Vorpp’s achievements.

That’s wrong. I’ve completed all the meta-achievements and a lot of the Invasions I took part in (including the final 13/13 one, which was in Mount Maelstrom for me) was a failure, not a success.

It seems there is a bug to it, because sometimes and for some people it advances even in failure but for others it does not advance. Peg one more reason this event was poorly designed AND poorly implemented.

Esplen.3940:

Garenthal.1480:

thefantasticg.3984:

Again. Silliness. Your reasoning is weak opinion at best. Bottom line is if you don’t enjoy it don’t do it.

What nonsense! Why should players avoid fresh content when it is the very thing preventing the game from becoming stale in the first place? Most of the complaints are valid and very apt – content is being pumped out far too quickly, is temporary and you end up competing with or being screwed over by other players which is a direct violation of the supposed core values of the game that the developers are swift to bring up whenever they talk about their vision for the future, past and present.

I agree. Whenever a new car comes out, I MUST have that car. I don’t care that it’s a waste of time because I don’t like cars, nor do I care that it’s useless for me to sell my car to get that new car. It’s new and it prevents my cars from becoming stale.

Note: Car is synonymous with content.

The difference here is that car is available for a lot longer than 2 weeks, and if you miss buying it brand new, you can still buy it years later used.

Extremely flawed analogy.

What kills large scale events to me is not the thing itself. Sure, if your machine sucks, stop whining, but skill lag and server-side issues are always there. Thankfully they were way less frequent than in the first karka event. The first karka would have been the best event ever if the server lag didn’t suck so hard. They either have to invest in server quality or lower the scale of events a bit. Maybe smaller overflows, I don’t know.

One would think that after 12 months it would be possible to prepare servers for sudden surge of players during certain events, but nooo…

Devildoc.6721:

Now mind you the Ancient Karka remains the worst because it was buggy and laggy and a FPS slideshow.

This event kills my desire to play GW2. Why? Here’s the reasons:

1. If you log on to do an event and it’s past 10 min after, just give up, you won’t be able to get into an overflow with an active invasion. Yes, you can just “wait an hour and do something else” but realistically, an hour is not enough time to do anything actually productive and fun, but too long to just sit around waiting for the next invasion. It makes me just want to log off instead and say screw it.
2. AFK’ers in the overflows often cause failures to the event, which don’t progress your achievements so that you can do the gated content or work towards the tonic.
3. The lack of a schedule to the maps means whenver I log on to see what zone is being invaded, it’s often a zone I’ve already done. I have sparkfly, harathi, fireheart, and dredgehaunt cliffs done. That’s always what I see up running, I’ve already done them, so it doesn’t progress achievements, so why bother, again, waiting an hour for the next one just makes you want to log off and do something else.
4. The funhouse is gated behind doing these invasions successfully, which afker’s can prevent from ever happening if you constantly get in an overflow. So if you keep getting the same freaking maps, and get in overflows that fail constantly, you’re pooched from ever seeing a good chunk of this update’s content.

The hourly invasions should happen on all 13 maps, or at least 3-4 maps at once every hour until Sept 3rd when this event is over, and THEN when they’re permanent invasions it can go to 1 map per hour. Either that or have a predictable schedule so that people who need certain maps can work in what time they log in.

This current system just doesn’t work unless you play ALL DAY and poopsock this event. Play a couple hours a day? You’re betting on RNG to get different maps and hoping not to end up in fail overflows.

This event is a 2/10.

Thats overrating this event. If not for the farming, I would give it 0/10 instead of 1/10. Ah well, at least now I can play other games other than GW2.]

The worst thing is DC by server or client crash in the last few seconds of the invasion after spending at least 30 min.

To be honest, this living story has been dull and empty for me. Except for Scarlet which made me laugh at the silly lines and her awesome voice, I really didn’t find anything amazing or fun in the event.

First time you do the invasion – you’re into it, you want to discover it, beat the events etc. But to do it hourly, it quickly becomes a tedious and repetitive cycle. The achievement is like a part-time job right now…“log in at x.58, see new map, see if it’s the map required, go there, do some events…get bored, wait for it to end..see if achievement progress was made…/sigh if not…wait for another map you need to pop up”. What’s fun in this? I really don’t get it.

I don’t really consider a game fun if I can auto-attack while playing another game or watching a movie. It’s just mindless, requires no effort. Sure, you can rate the event as a 5 if you enjoy farming…but even then, thanks for the rewards, but auto-attacking as a guardian on staff (for example)…free loot for 0 effort.

So yay for living story content. 0-2/10 is where this is. Best part tho: disconnects, crashes, getting sent on an overflow without the event, having people whine and yell and insult each other on the map chat because of the content…Yes, this living story really shows how good a community we are.

I skipped over this thread initially, because it struck me as a QQ post. Having tried (regretfully now) to get 13/13 i HATE this event and actually believe the OP is onto something.

I talked in detail about it else where in a different thread so I don’t want to go into detail about it again. Sure I could walk away, but it’s not the point:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/speech/Invasion-Canceler-AP-Feedback/first#post2707025

What I do want to mention is I having persisted with this event has actually made me resent GW2. For the first time since release I really felt it’s probably time to take a break from GW2 for awhile.

If ANet is going to INSIST of these 2 week updates, then they REALLY need to create a system that compensates for bugs and flawed events.

I got to 11/13 relatively quickly, then spent the better part of a day getting to 12 and missed 13/13 this morning by literally 2 minutes.

Zerging and mindless killing gets old VERY fast. First the pavillion and now this. I can barely stomach just mindless clicking for a long time even if the rewards are good. Trouble with the latest update is that it’s the main event, there’s no other stuff to occupy you this time.

Great event, if you miss the 10 minute opening for server/overflow just ask in your guild if anyone is doing it currently. Join their party and you’ll be able to get into the area most likely

Despite all the complaints (valid in my opinion), you are mostly still doing the events. Anet sees this as a sign that it’s ok to release this type of content (buggy, uninspired, boring, etc.). Why bother doing better when people will consume your product even if it’s shoddy?

Vote with your feet. If you don’t like the event, don’t do it. Resist the temptations of gold and the achievement points. Low turnout is the only way Anet will get the message.

Feedback on the forums should also be taken into account.

Gendarran fields twice in 3 hours, and I already did it yesterday, really?

1. Ask friends and guildies for someone in an active overflow, party with them, join in overflow, problem solved. We do that all the time in the guild I’m on.
2. Failed events progress achievements, at least it has done it for me. Just be sure to attack minions (clockworks) that aren’t resurrected ones and it should count (aetherblade and molten count towards invasion progress but not towards achievements).
3. Agree, I’d like to have a way to know which map will be invaded next (though it might cause problems with overflowing as people will rush to it beforehand), and which map I still need (12/13, not really sure which one I’m missing). Still, the invasions are staying permanently, so maybe the achievenets related will be as well, no idea, though.
4. Failed invasions still count towards the funhouse achievements (see 2). At least out of the 6 needed (5 for story, 1 to get the crystals) I failed 2 and they still counted.

Are all servers having the invasion on at the same time? and is there a set rotation

Here is my issue.

I get home from work, if i get 3 hours play in I’m lucky.

The last few night I seem to be getting the same three maps, meh ok for farming but I am pretty kitten sure now that I am not going to make it to the play house or am i going to be able to complete the clockwork chaos achievement.

P.S I don’t have a potty mouth that “kitten” is for Dam with an “n” on the end.

Lisa.6102:

Are all servers having the invasion on at the same time? and is there a set rotation

Here is my issue.

I get home from work, if i get 3 hours play in I’m lucky.

The last few night I seem to be getting the same three maps, meh ok for farming but I am pretty kitten sure now that I am not going to make it to the play house or am i going to be able to complete the clockwork chaos achievement.

P.S I don’t have a potty mouth that “kitten” is for Dam with an “n” on the end.

Yes, all servers and overflows get the same invasion at the same time.

Ancient Karka was easily the worst event, but I disagree on 2nd. Queens Gauntlet is way worse and buggy, these invasions are quite ok.

I agree with the OP in terms of time spent for completing the event is way to high and has a big grind taste for me.

However of course I could just ignore it. But I really liked the gauntlet and I managed to get to Liadri pretty quickly. Than I decided to collect a few tickets first before I start trying her seriously. So i was very pleased when Anet announced that they wont remove the gauntlet for another 2 weeks. I can only spent time playing at the weekend (work). My bag full of tickets I tried to access the gauntlet last weekend and I was pretty annoyed that I could not access the gauntlet anymore.

I managed to grind 6 hours through the event (had a disconnect once…) only to discover that I have to grind a bit more for 3 items and do an instance afterwards…. Than I lost my interest completely and forgot about the gauntlet.

I mean you need roughly 8 hours minimum to get back to the content you already had access before. I do have quite some time at the weekend to play games but 8 hours mindless grinding is a lot of time.

However today I read a quote in the forum that the gauntlet will be available as a event later this year so players have the chance to finish it. If they do this its okay and fair. Next time they should communicate a bit clearer what will change with the next update.

I actually like the invasions. I don’t like the bugged 13/13 for the achievement.