(edited by Nefarious.2014)
End Reward Suggestion - can we all get behind this?
I 100% support this.
This solves most of the end-game problems, and honestly, would be simpler than most other fixes.
Also extremely easy to retroactively fix. (Just mail a friggen talon to everybody that has already finished it?) “Commander, after the celebration was finished, a Talon of Zhaitan was discovered when cleaning the dead. We would like to offer it to you giving you the singular honor of wielding it as a weapon of your choice.”
This is a rather simple solution, to a complex, horribly made, terribly fixed, problem.
I’m not actually sure this is the best idea. I mean, it is an ok idea and I wouldn’t be sad if it happened but I think they could do better in a few ways.
First, as you only need 1 weapon in some cases, getting an exotic is actually getting quite a lot and does undermine the efforts of crafters. A better solution is to grant a special rare with an exotic sigil. Perhaps something with a cultural skin that I’d otherwise have to spend a bunch of gold on and which I could later use to transmute an exotic.
I’m much more in favor of some ‘special’ item than an exotic weapon. If they created a special set of weapons or armor skins that would be great, but even if it was just some way to exchange for one or more vigil/whispers/priory skins I’d be happy. And of course make them useable (L80 rare maybe with a fine transmutation stone to go with it)
Best of all would be something altogether special like a long cooldown inventory activation environmental weapon. Or maybe a pve elite skill or something. Though obv these are much more difficult ‘fixes’
(edited by Velleman.4823)
I’m not actually sure this is the best idea. I mean, it is an ok idea and I wouldn’t be sad if it happened but I think they could do better in a few ways.
First, as you only need 1 weapon in some cases, getting an exotic is actually getting quite a lot and does undermine the efforts of crafters. A better solution is to grant a special rare with an exotic sigil. Perhaps something with a cultural skin that I’d otherwise have to spend a bunch of gold on and which I could later use to transmute an exotic.
I’m much more in favor of some ‘special’ item than an exotic weapon. If they created a special set of weapons or armor skins that would be great, but even if it was just some way to exchange for one or more vigil/whispers/priory skins I’d be happy. And of course make them useable (L80 rare maybe with a fine transmutation stone to go with it)
I agree with this also. Honestly, I think the biggest problem comes from “perfect” weapons being impossible to find. They are currently (estimating) 80g… Thats insane.
There is no way to give someone something they WANT, while still making it practical in an economy like this. Really the only fix I see plausible is something that may break the economy…
I agree with something unique, but it cant JUST be unique. It also has to be strong and usable… If you can get it somewhere else, you can be assured the bots will be there hounding at it to get them. That’s why that idea wont work (in my opinion).
Well, with transmutation stones, anything that is unique CAN be strong and useable. Heck, I’ve transmuted my Trinity Axe that I got around lvl 50 a bunch of times all the way to exotic just because I like the look and the name. Of course I think it should at least be a rare L80 so it’s only one step below an exotic (and probably an upgrade, even if just short term). I’d also like if it came with a fine transmutation stone to make it really easy to convert the skin to an exotic. The important thing is just that it looks cool. Even if it’s just an existing cultural or faction option.
Though the more I think about this, I think they should just pull out all the stops and make me a cool elite skill. Something like:
‘We Owe You One’: Elite skill. A bunch of Pact leaders or even just pact soldiers come to your aid in your time of need. 5 min cooldown
or maybe
‘Power of Zhaitan’: Elite skill. You hold a fragment of Zhaitan’s tooth which you can harness to raise the dead to fight for you. Summons risen. 5 min cooldown
or some other thing. Elite skills associated with major story arc achievements could be really cool and would even make for some interesting future possibilities with other expansions or achievements. I want to collect new elite skills!
Well, with transmutation stones, anything that is unique CAN be strong and useable. Heck, I’ve transmuted my Trinity Axe that I got around lvl 50 a bunch of times all the way to exotic just because I like the look and the name. Of course I think it should at least be a rare L80 so it’s only one step below an exotic (and probably an upgrade, even if just short term). I’d also like if it came with a fine transmutation stone to make it really easy to convert the skin to an exotic. The important thing is just that it looks cool. Even if it’s just an existing cultural or faction option.
Though the more I think about this, I think they should just pull out all the stops and make me a cool elite skill. Something like:
‘We Owe You One’: Elite skill. A bunch of Pact leaders or even just pact soldiers come to your aid in your time of need. 5 min cooldown
or maybe
‘Power of Zhaitan’: Elite skill. You hold a fragment of Zhaitan’s tooth which you can harness to raise the dead to fight for you. Summons risen. 5 min cooldown
or some other thing. Elite skills associated with major story arc achievements could be really cool and would even make for some interesting future possibilities with other expansions or achievements. I want to collect new elite skills!
Agreed. This could also lead to huge possibilities of skills-for-accomplishments to somewhat compensate the (in my opinion) lack of skills.. Theres like 50 total :/
It would be difficult to balance this correctly though would be the only problem. Because it of course cant be too strong. Or it could be a PvE only skill etc.
Oh yeah it definitely should be PvE only.
I just think it’s a cool idea for unique gear or rewards to be represented by skill access and not actual gear
Another way to do this would be with a permanent inventory activation item that creates an environmental weapon. Again — PvE only.
I mean geez, if we can buy pirate clothes with their own skillset why not something like this. Though this is just wishful thinking I’m sure.
Yes. I just finished it, got a rare pirate hat (same hat model I wore for 60 levels), a masterwork pirate shoulder, and a couple other useless greens. I don’t want vendor fodder, I want something that shows I am commander of the pact that took down zhaitan! But no, I get level 78 greens with models that are available in the teens, with MINOR runes in them. Woopy-kitten-doo. There is absolutely no reason to not use the tried and true GW1 model of a token that can be exchanged for a unique perfect weapon.
Lord Commander, we recovered one talon from Zhitans body. You shall have the singular honor of wielding it as a weapon of your choice.
You received one Talon of Zhitan token to exchange with the Orrian Dungeon Merchant.
End Loot: One exotic weapon of your choice.
Bingo. Easy. Reasonable.
Sounds cool to me
Completely agree. +1
This would be the best resolution. + 1
I would prefer a weapon skin or gear skin. Maybe a cool back item, considering there are not many.
Only problem with this, as already stated, is that max-level weapons are currently (basically) non-existant… So it would be hard to balance this :/
Im confused at people saying max weapons are rare and hard to find…. we are talking lvl 80 exotics right? The only more ‘perfect’ weapons I know of are the Legendaries and those are much more expensive than 80g.
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It’s going to have “max” stats, but it’s still only one weapon and won’t always have the best stats for your build. Besides, the important part is the totally unique name/skin, not the fact that it’s some kind of end-all weapon.
I think a simple solution would be something similar to the “epic” weapon skins from eq2. I don’t mean exact, just the same idea. A weapon with a “cool”, noticeable skin, not necessarily overpowered, to signify story completion.
What id really, really want is a Mini Zhai zhai. He is cute!
What id really, really want is a Mini Zhai zhai. He is cute!
While funny, and also would make sense, I highly doubt this will be implemented as many users want something that will help them progress further
“Commander, it has been brought to our attention that a small, misshapen egg was found among the remains of Zhaitan’s tower. We would like to bestow it to you, as a sign of your achievement.” You acquire “Egg of Zhaitan, double click to use.”
(99.9% chance to get mini Zhaitan, .1% chance to get some super rare mini)
But no, unlikely
What id really, really want is a Mini Zhai zhai. He is cute!
While funny, and also would make sense, I highly doubt this will be implemented as many users want something that will help them progress further
“Commander, it has been brought to our attention that a small, misshapen egg was found among the remains of Zhaitan’s tower. We would like to bestow it to you, as a sign of your achievement.” You acquire “Egg of Zhaitan, double click to use.”
(99.9% chance to get mini Zhaitan, .1% chance to get some super rare mini)
But no, unlikely
There really isn’t any progression to be had. You get exotics and you’re set for the duration of the game (unless Anet decides to raise the level cap). Exotics can already be attained through various means, so the end of the story arc is the perfect opportunity to give out something unique, that you can’t get anywhere else.
I’m on board with a Zhaitan mini.
Not good enough. The end reward for a legendary journey, and the start of another, should be the precursor legendary weapon for our class, and the choice of stats by us, presented in a ceremony by the npc’s.
I see imagination is lacking around the content world.