Guild Wars 2

Hello!

So I am recruiting a family member into buying the game soon. Naturally, she will want to be on the server I play on. Guesting aside, it is a different experience when you are actually a member of that server. However, she has only 2 options: 1) she can wait until my very busy server has an open spot or, 2) she can start playing right away but then have to pay a $20 fee to transfer.

Perhaps instead, ANet could offer all new accounts a one-time free world transfer that lasts 1 month. This will give new players time to acclimate to the game and a chance to play while waiting to get to the server they want. Obviously, it should only be used once (after which they must pay) and only valid for one month.

Opinions?

Delete all characters -> free transfer.

You can’t open free transfers because of WvW will be screwed up again.

New account can PICK their server btw…

It may just be me, but I don’t really see the “delete all characters for a free transfer” as a fair argument. That new player should be allowed to play with friends without a penalty – this would allow that (and I know, guesting would as well). As for the WvW… I don’t see this messing that up. It was problematic before because people were transferring, for free, every week. This is just one free transfer most likely for new players who may not have even tried WvW yet. Anyway, just a suggestion!

EDIT: Yes, I’m aware new players can pick a server. However, in order to play, they must pick a server that isn’t full. I’m on Tarnished Coast, and my sister would like to join me there… However, TC is almost always full (It took me quite a while to find an open spot before snagging it). If she wants to play the game, she’ll have to settle with a server she doesn’t want and then rely on guesting. The free transfer could be for players like that – that one time chance to change their server.

Guesting allow to play with your friend in pve.
Transfering is to be involve in a specific server’s wvw party

lookitsandrea.8531:

It may just be me, but I don’t really see the “delete all characters for a free transfer” as a fair argument. That new player should be allowed to play with friends without a penalty – this would allow that (and I know, guesting would as well). As for the WvW… I don’t see this messing that up. It was problematic before because people were transferring, for free, every week. This is just one free transfer most likely for new players who may not have even tried WvW yet. Anyway, just a suggestion!

EDIT: Yes, I’m aware new players can pick a server. However, in order to play, they must pick a server that isn’t full. I’m on Tarnished Coast, and my sister would like to join me there… However, TC is almost always full (It took me quite a while to find an open spot before snagging it). If she wants to play the game, she’ll have to settle with a server she doesn’t want and then rely on guesting. The free transfer could be for players like that – that one time chance to change their server.

He said its a new account, deleting characters on a new account is WAY easier than deleting characters that are 8 months old. Transfers are a part of the game.

Any kind of free xfer aside deleting characters would create a HUGE uproar in the WvW community and I don’t think ANet would want that. I don’t know how “you cant see that messing it up”.. Free transfers DESTROYED any kind of longevity or stability in servers for a very long time. Look at all of the servers that rose/fell, KA, SoS, ET, HoD, DB just to name a few.. all products of free transfers.

Alright. I’m not too familiar with WvW so I’ll trust your guys’ judgment on that! It would just be nice if there was an easier way to get people you refer to the server you’re on without wasting x weeks of progress. Oh well.

LilMcGinley.3890:

lookitsandrea.8531:

It may just be me, but I don’t really see the “delete all characters for a free transfer” as a fair argument. That new player should be allowed to play with friends without a penalty – this would allow that (and I know, guesting would as well). As for the WvW… I don’t see this messing that up. It was problematic before because people were transferring, for free, every week. This is just one free transfer most likely for new players who may not have even tried WvW yet. Anyway, just a suggestion!

EDIT: Yes, I’m aware new players can pick a server. However, in order to play, they must pick a server that isn’t full. I’m on Tarnished Coast, and my sister would like to join me there… However, TC is almost always full (It took me quite a while to find an open spot before snagging it). If she wants to play the game, she’ll have to settle with a server she doesn’t want and then rely on guesting. The free transfer could be for players like that – that one time chance to change their server.

He said its a new account, deleting characters on a new account is WAY easier than deleting characters that are 8 months old. Transfers are a part of the game.

Any kind of free xfer aside deleting characters would create a HUGE uproar in the WvW community and I don’t think ANet would want that. I don’t know how “you cant see that messing it up”.. Free transfers DESTROYED any kind of longevity or stability in servers for a very long time. Look at all of the servers that rose/fell, KA, SoS, ET, HoD, DB just to name a few.. all products of free transfers.

Ok, I’m going to say this one time and one time only.

Free transfers only ruined WvW because they were able to * REPEATEDLY* transfer. People used this to switch back and forth to insure they were on the leading server for WvW. The damage from this was done and is still being felt today because people swarmed the top servers when they could.

However, ONE TIME ONLY free transfers WILL NOT recreate this. This will only permit you to transfer once, period. Once you transfer you can’t change again unless you buy a transfer. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to ABUSE a one time only transfer.

In-fact, until reading this thread I was under the impression that they had settled on one time only transfers.

Panda.1967:

LilMcGinley.3890:

lookitsandrea.8531:

It may just be me, but I don’t really see the “delete all characters for a free transfer” as a fair argument. That new player should be allowed to play with friends without a penalty – this would allow that (and I know, guesting would as well). As for the WvW… I don’t see this messing that up. It was problematic before because people were transferring, for free, every week. This is just one free transfer most likely for new players who may not have even tried WvW yet. Anyway, just a suggestion!

EDIT: Yes, I’m aware new players can pick a server. However, in order to play, they must pick a server that isn’t full. I’m on Tarnished Coast, and my sister would like to join me there… However, TC is almost always full (It took me quite a while to find an open spot before snagging it). If she wants to play the game, she’ll have to settle with a server she doesn’t want and then rely on guesting. The free transfer could be for players like that – that one time chance to change their server.

He said its a new account, deleting characters on a new account is WAY easier than deleting characters that are 8 months old. Transfers are a part of the game.

Any kind of free xfer aside deleting characters would create a HUGE uproar in the WvW community and I don’t think ANet would want that. I don’t know how “you cant see that messing it up”.. Free transfers DESTROYED any kind of longevity or stability in servers for a very long time. Look at all of the servers that rose/fell, KA, SoS, ET, HoD, DB just to name a few.. all products of free transfers.

Ok, I’m going to say this one time and one time only.

Free transfers only ruined WvW because they were able to * REPEATEDLY* transfer. People used this to switch back and forth to insure they were on the leading server for WvW. The damage from this was done and is still being felt today because people swarmed the top servers when they could.

However, ONE TIME ONLY free transfers WILL NOT recreate this. This will only permit you to transfer once, period. Once you transfer you can’t change again unless you buy a transfer. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to ABUSE a one time only transfer.

In-fact, until reading this thread I was under the impression that they had settled on one time only transfers.

To OP: Sorry for going crazy off topic with the WvW stuff, we’ve laid out the available options to transfer or simply use guesting..

No way to abuse it? Sure, but what happens to WvW if you open 1 free tranfer? Chaos.

You must think about WvW on a MACRO scale. What happens if 1 free transfer is announced? Many guilds will look for other places to play, this creates FoTM server and servers who do not have the WvW population for their current tier. Perfect examples of this include SoS (after FoE/AGG/Merc/ND and AoI left) and KA when War Machine left SBI to join them, don’t forget what happened to JQ after free transfers were announced to be ending. You get 2-3 months of LOPSIDED matches, which no one enjoys. Yes, you can’t “abuse” the system by server hopping but you destroy any kind of the stability servers have at the current moment.

I hope I explained that the best I could. Even 1 free transfer will ruin WvW because of the LARGE WvW guilds that will jump to a new server (mostly lower tiers) and create a vacuum at the top where unbalanced matches will become the norm again.

Also, what happens in 5-6 months when all the people who just bought the game ask for a free transfer as well? Are we going to set a precedent of allowing a free transfer to everyone every 6 months? You don’t transfer for the PvE, you transfer for the WvW.

With that being said, I conclude my side of the discussion. Best of luck OP.

I don’t see how 1 free transfer to a new account would drastically affect WvW. It’s not like 400 players will instantly move from 1 server to the next. I agree with the OP, it would give new players a chance to get a feel of the game and what they like, then be able to move to a server that best suit their needs without shelling out 20$ for it. We all had a chance to try different servers to find a good home before they removed free xfers. Why shouldn’t a new player be given the same opportunity.?

Julie Yann.5379:

I don’t see how 1 free transfer to a new account would drastically affect WvW. It’s not like 400 players will instantly move from 1 server to the next.

It already happens… monthly.. and with PAID transfers and you think with a free transfer the same wouldn’t happen? That’s funny…

Look at IRON/AGG/EMP/Axis of Insurrection (5 guilds)/OMEN/MERC/ND.. All LARGE WvW oriented guilds that have transferred 40+ members each during PAID transfers. All these moves caused inbalance in the match ups.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Julie Yann.5379:

I don’t see how 1 free transfer to a new account would drastically affect WvW. It’s not like 400 players will instantly move from 1 server to the next.

It already happens… monthly.. and with PAID transfers and you think with a free transfer the same wouldn’t happen? That’s funny…

Look at IRON/AGG/EMP/Axis of Insurrection (5 guilds)/OMEN/MERC/ND.. All LARGE WvW oriented guilds that have transferred 40+ members each during PAID transfers. All these moves caused inbalance in the match ups.

I’m saying it won’t make it any worse than it is now. Nothing is going to stop the bigger guilds from paying their way to another server if they choose to. You would need a guild of 40+ new accounts transferring to have the effect you are describing.

If your friend isn’t into WvW then Guesting should take care of the problem. If she is, yeah, that sucks.

Perhaps they could set it up so you have 1 free transfer that you have to use in the first 30 days or you lose it; much the same way other MMOs give you one free month before you start paying your sub. This seems like it would be fair and much less likely to be taken advantage of.