Guild Wars 2

The current top 100 of the leaderboards are locked in because dailies represent around 40% of all available achievement points.

This is
1) Unfair to new players: who no matter how much achieving they actually do will never be able to catch up.
2) Unfair to those who didn’t do dailies/monthlies for the rewards offered at the time.

To make it fair points from dailies should have been set to zero the day the boards came out. This would have been inline with resetting other achievements that were set to zero (salvaging) for the same reason.

If salvaging was deemed unfair, an activity that any player could do, at any time, how can dailies be considered fair when they are an activity that no one who hasn’t already done them can complete and completing them was never implied to have any implications.

Please either set daily/monthly points to zero so everyone can compete on an equal footing. ((Not ideal as new players will still be unfairly punished.))

Or, ideally, allow daily/monthlies to be completed after they expire, but grant significantly less exp, money and items for late completion while leaving achievement rewards the same.

This is why leader boards are of little use, and why I am not interested in them, or being on them.

The way they’re currently set up, it appears unfair to those who do care. I don’t think daily/monthlies should count at all.

I’m on the leaderboard, and I agree. I don’t think dailies and monthlies should count. It’s not much fun to know that I’m on there simply because I’m playing longer.

I thoroughly understand that once the dailies and monthlies are removed, I am unlikely to be in the top 1000, but fair is fair.

Hmmmm… I thought the reason why they are called dailies and monthlies is because you have a single day/month to complete them. Otherwise they’d be called “Achievement Point Accumulators” or something.

I’m still trying to figure out why “I schedule my entire life around this game” is a source of such pride for so many people, however. If you schedule your life around the game, then you will eventually reach the top of the hill. If you don’t, then this entire argument is meaningless to you. This does not appear to be a real problem, other than the fact that there seems to be >1000 people scheduling their lives around the game who all want to be <1000 rank.

tbh i hadn’t even looked at the leaderboards, it’s not anything that’s even remotely interesting. if they’re as you say they are, then maybe it could work if the leaderboards were a daily or even weekly thing, like based on how many points someone can accrue during that time, and they reset every cycle?

The Pve one doesn’t reset, it updates regularly but it’s based on your achievement points, which including points you’ve earned for dailies and monthlies since launch.

lordmitz.2047:

tbh i hadn’t even looked at the leaderboards, it’s not anything that’s even remotely interesting. if they’re as you say they are, then maybe it could work if the leaderboards were a daily or even weekly thing, like based on how many points someone can accrue during that time, and they reset every cycle?

They should reset every month and the top ten people should get a bunny rabbit.

Either the leaderboards are also suppost how long and often someone is playing the game and if he is playing it every day(then it would be okay as ist is) or it only should show the other achievements that are not daily and can be done by everyone.

I really think dailies should not be there since they already set a limit to stuff like Agent of Entropy.

Instead of lettin gothers complete past dailies they should remove the achivement points from past dailies. The rewards are enough.

Dailies and monthlies shouldn’t yield achievement points IMO; I don’t see the logic since it just makes it harder to gauge a player’s progress through the core achievements.

Eventually when players begin hitting > 20k points, it will simply be about daily and monthly achievements.

The only reason I can see for this “unlimited” approach is if ANet plan on making points some kind of currency in the future.

Maybe sepereate leaderboards: 1 “Who played most parts of the game” for the core achievements and 1 “Who is farmin the dailies and monthlies every day”(like playing the game a lot but you can’t be sure if he is playing every part of the game).