Guild Wars 2

BEFORE I BEGIN, LET ME FIRST CAPITALIZE AND BOLD THIS STATEMENT WITH THE MAIN WORD OF THE TITLE: ALLOW

Now that that’s out of the way, I feel that it is slightly unfair to claim that players would be able to level the way that they want. To put it simply, I prefer sPVP to leveling via hearts and dynamic events. It’s a good way to unwind, and it doesn’t have the scaling issues that WvW has. For example, a level 12 character going into WvW has no elite and only one utility skill, not to mention the scaling differences based on gear for that level. I’d like a fair PvP leveling experience, frankly.

There are ways to accomplish this that would make it clear that what you’re doing is for PvE progress and not PvP progress. For example, allowing a player to use the PvP mystic forge to transmute their rewards into experience or karma. Before you jump down my throat for that karma via PvP reference, let me explain a bit better. If you were to level solely in sPVP from 1-80, you would have no gear in PvE. Ergo, either karma or gold is necessary to gear up from that, and I don’t think many people would enjoy sPvP damaging the PvE economy. And before I get the predictable response of “then people will just farm sPvP for karma and it will be unbalanced and blah blah I have no imagination,” they can balance it so that it gives roughly the same amount or a bit less as dynamic events. This is not beyond the scope of their abilities.

Thoughts? And yes, this post was very condescending. I feel I have to be to counter the inevitable, incredibly predictable counter-arguments.

I have opted the same suggestion in SPVP:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Should-structured-PvP-grant-a-small-bit-of-XP/first#post70265

And im also off the opinion we really could get a small xp reward for SPVP. You dont have to incude TPVP but SPVP would be really nice.

I mean, here’s an ALTERNATIVE SUGGESTION:
A separate mode from sPvP, still balanced, except it provides experience(/karma?) INSTEAD of Valor. So you can’t level and gain valor at the same time.

They’ll probably just say that’s what WvW is for.

Does no one else really have any input?

I think ANet said they really wanted to keep PvP and PvE separate. If you want to PvP at level cap, you can do the sPvP, and if you wanted some to level with, then you do WvW. Regardless if you want to level in PvP, I think they made it this way specifically so people won’t spend their whole time in PvP maps. This game is meant to be explored, via hearts, vistas and general exploration of the map, and if this doesn’t really fit with you, then I’m not sure what to say except that you can continue to be “level 80” in spvp, but you also need to work like the rest of us who did the zone exploration to reach 80.

I’m not trying to sound rude at all, just as a note.

GW1 PVP and PVE was completely seperate to. In GW1 you had the choice of creating a PVP only character and going straight to the PVP zone and that character staying there never allowed to go to PVE.

sPVP in GW2 is meant to be level 80 with all traits, skills and weapons unlocked (since its based on skill anyways) so if people want they can make a new character do the opining quest and go straight to sPVP and play. This give people who want to only sPVP or have a seperate PVP character do this without the level grind.

I dont see them ever adding exp gain to sPVP. Go to WvWvW for that.

That’s the thing, though. PvP and PvE weren’t always separate in GW1. There used to be arenas in cities that you could participate in to level. Even if sPvP for leveling will never be an option, it would be very, very nice to have some kind of quick, short-term goal oriented PvP to take part in to level. As it stands, the only PvP leveling option is “run around an immensely large map and siege castles for incredibly protracted lengths of time.”

Bumping. Again.