Guild Wars 2

It’s fairly standard and straight forward, a traditional method to use daggers in an upward position. This would mainly benefit D/D elementalists and off hand dagger users since there is no standard animations for off hand daggers besides the thief but then again they happen so fast that it’s barely noticeable. I know there is the Tear of Grenth, Jormag’s Needle and the Severed Dagger but none of them compare to the rest.

Nightarch.2943:

It’s fairly standard and straight forward, a traditional method to use daggers in an upward position.

I’m gonna play the kitten now. No it’s not. Many daggers were even built being used in the reverse grip, like the rondel .

Regardless – I like the idea (aleady thought about why it’s not possible but w/e).

Shirk.6421:

Nightarch.2943:

It’s fairly standard and straight forward, a traditional method to use daggers in an upward position.

I’m gonna play the kitten now. No it’s not. Many daggers were even built being used in the reverse grip, like the rondel .

Regardless – I like the idea (aleady thought about why it’s not possible but w/e).

No, it is rather rudimentary really since they have the model, all that is needed is to reverse it and or mirror it. I’m rather positive they just won’t allow it to be flipped backwards such as the sacrificial dagger to where it’s facing the character as opposed to the enemy.

Edit* I see where you’re getting it for a weapon such as The Claws of the Desert and even then it wouldn’t be that large of an issue to resolve.

You misunderstood me xD I talked about medieval times^^

Shirk.6421:

You misunderstood me xD I talked about medieval times^^

Flipped my mind, and by the god of the dark I hate that emoticon. Suppose I am one of the only people in history who can stab using it the correct way LOL! “Stick ’em with the pointy end.” On a serious note though, the rondel could be used as a powerful offhand when wielded the standard way. When you strike like that though — the below hand method you’re delayed in between strikes. Then again it really doesn’t matter unless you’re targeting the upper spine and or collar area.

Try using a rondel in a hammer grip lol. Already had one of these in your hands? very uncomfortable. I guees we should go back on-topic.

Nightarch.2943:

It’s fairly standard and straight forward, a traditional method to use daggers in an upward position for ceremonies and food cutting

dagger is not butter-knife, nor it’s short sword

in open combat upward blade position is inferior to downward one, ofc it doesn’t apply to stabbing someone by surprise

upward blade position

• easy to disarm (arm can be grabbed rendering dagger useless; can be knocked out easily e.g. with a kick)
• stabs are weaker (pushing forward, lifting up, slashing with only the tip)
• more predictable (front stab, stab from below, slashing with the tip)

downward blade position

• hard to disarm (blade in the way)
• stabs are stronger (from above with body weight, full blade slashes with arm swing)
• concealed blade
• stronger grip (a lot harder to knock out, anatomy an physics involved)

not that any of that matters in fantasy settings

Saulius.8430:

Nightarch.2943:

It’s fairly standard and straight forward, a traditional method to use daggers in an upward position for ceremonies and food cutting

dagger is not butter-knife, nor it’s short sword

in open combat upward blade position is inferior to downward one, ofc it doesn’t apply to stabbing someone by surprise

upward blade position

• easy to disarm (arm can be grabbed rendering dagger useless; can be knocked out easily e.g. with a kick)
• stabs are weaker (pushing forward, lifting up, slashing with only the tip)
• more predictable (front stab, stab from below, slashing with the tip)

downward blade position

• hard to disarm (blade in the way)
• stabs are stronger (from above with body weight, full blade slashes with arm swing)
• concealed blade
• stronger grip (a lot harder to knock out, anatomy an physics involved)

not that any of that matters in fantasy settings

It’s more about in which hand you use the dagger, what kind of dagger you are using, if it’s paired with another weapon, against what kind of weapon you are fighting etc. If you’re interested in this subject I recommend you buying some books about that.

Have to follow you up about the fantasy thing :P

Saulius.8430:

Nightarch.2943:

It’s fairly standard and straight forward, a traditional method to use daggers in an upward position for ceremonies and food cutting

dagger is not butter-knife, nor it’s short sword

in open combat upward blade position is inferior to downward one, ofc it doesn’t apply to stabbing someone by surprise

upward blade position

• easy to disarm (arm can be grabbed rendering dagger useless; can be knocked out easily e.g. with a kick)
• stabs are weaker (pushing forward, lifting up, slashing with only the tip)
• more predictable (front stab, stab from below, slashing with the tip)

downward blade position

• hard to disarm (blade in the way)
• stabs are stronger (from above with body weight, full blade slashes with arm swing)
• concealed blade
• stronger grip (a lot harder to knock out, anatomy an physics involved)

not that any of that matters in fantasy settings

Over reacting much? Coming from training experience I can tell you it’s quite the opposite. Remember this isn’t real life, it’s a bloody game preference.

range > thrusting force

Unless you are fighting armoured^^

With that last comment aside we can finally get back on topic. Allowing the offhand dagger to be flipped through optional means you can prevent clipping issues if you’re a male human or sylvari. I see a lot potential benefits in allowing this this option to come to life.

As I said, there’s no reason why it shouldn’t be available.

The ol’ pain with daggers and trenchcoats