Ancient Karka should be converted to a RAID!
the way i look at it, if i wanted a raid i’d go play WoW. i don’t want a raid, so i play GW2.
I suppose if this were converted to a Raid, you could put a lockout timer on it much like most other games do. Perhaps once a week and make the drop setup so that folks need to roll for them.
@Phantom~some do some don’t ..to each his own. And to that end, you can play in GW2 without playing in Raids, if the idea came to fruition. Saying go play some other game that is dried out and old just cause it doesn’t fit with your play style is not helpful to anyone’s cause.
@lynspottery~ I am sure no one “here” wants to copy WoW, as that seems to be the GW way for most. I was attracted to GW2 cause I got the impression that if you participate with something you would get something for your efforts, like the dungeons give out tokens to get the gear(none of this running it for your buddies to gear up while you get nothing week after week). I do not support the idea of following WoW with “Rolling” for loot.
@Phantom~some do some don’t ..to each his own. And to that end, you can play in GW2 without playing in Raids, if the idea came to fruition. Saying go play some other game that is dried out and old just cause it doesn’t fit with your play style is not helpful to anyone’s cause.
@lynspottery~ I am sure no one “here” wants to copy WoW, as that seems to be the GW way for most. I was attracted to GW2 cause I got the impression that if you participate with something you would get something for your efforts, like the dungeons give out tokens to get the gear(none of this running it for your buddies to gear up while you get nothing week after week). I do not support the idea of following WoW with “Rolling” for loot.
I appreciate your viewpoint, however, I was not thinking of WoW when I made this comment. Personally, the only time I like to raid is when I can run through a dungeon raid with my guild mates. So far that is not an option as most dungeon groups are only 5 people. I am not burning for Raid content, I was only making a comment.
DOnt dare mention raids in this community…you will get cut down fast …same thing happened in my suggestion about raids (was even a mature suggestion)
People (Most of this community) will immediately have a kitten fit and tell you to go back to WoW (even if you have never played WoW…since ppl forget WoW isnt the only game with raids)
However I support raid content as well for large groups and guilds…instead of most the mindless (some call it fun) zerging….with people mining ore or laying around dead for 30 mins instead of rezzing and running back…
Maybe they should just run the event once every year or so.
I just think that Anet working hard on something so similar to a Raid to begin with, that why not just go ahead and stop calling it what it was not designed to be in the first place, which is a OTE.
@Phantom~some do some don’t ..to each his own. And to that end, you can play in GW2 without playing in Raids, if the idea came to fruition. Saying go play some other game that is dried out and old just cause it doesn’t fit with your play style is not helpful to anyone’s cause.
@lynspottery~ I am sure no one “here” wants to copy WoW, as that seems to be the GW way for most. I was attracted to GW2 cause I got the impression that if you participate with something you would get something for your efforts, like the dungeons give out tokens to get the gear(none of this running it for your buddies to gear up while you get nothing week after week). I do not support the idea of following WoW with “Rolling” for loot.
Rolling for loot was the most idiotic thing Ive seen implemented in a MMORPG ever. Seriously, who thought that craptacular system up?
Wow I came back tonight almost 24 hours later to check on my thread and since the last post it got buried in 7 pages full of posts.
Must be the event! You sure woke up your audience there Anet.
Seriously though, why so much effort to make what should be a raid and make a lot of people unhappy, all in the same weekend? When you could slide this in as a raid and have people glad to be able to group up and kick some Ancient Karka every other week or so.
Not sure why you need to converty to a raid but not really my point in posting.
Not really sure why people get upset atthe mention of raids.
The Ideal of raids is
A dungeon that has a higher difficulty than the previous and rewards you for each tier of difficulty you exceed in.
WoW does this by giving you a a LFR which is simple in and of it self
then they go to 10 man Normal
then 10 man heroic
The New FoTM is technically a raid by definition standard. It is just a 5 man raid.
FoTM ideal
Start with a dungeon that is harder than the preceding dungeons ( no res zerging)
As you complete the Dungeon the dungeon progressively gets harder and more difficult. Bosses and mobs start doing different things to reflect this.
Eventually the Dungeon requires you to have Fusion armor that has a resistance to Agony. They also start giving better loot.
All intensive purposes FoTM is a raid it acts as a raid it scales like a raid. The only differences is A.Net is not calling it a raid.
true so why not call this “Not a Raid”
I myself believe This game can Use a good raid or to those that Disagree with ME are just like the 5 year olds from World Of Warcraft that cryed and cryed and cryed untill the game was so Easy that about Half of the games Hard core Players and 5-6 year vets quit because there was no reason to play anymore guild wars two is On the same track i already feel the means to not log on anymore because all this game is currently is a PVP ROLL FACE ACROSS KEYBOARD game nothing more just pvp everywere and u all have to think not everyone likes pvp some people Like Myself Like a good story and a challenge.
I want every one of you here to tell me how many times have u seen ANYONE saying LFG Zytain Dungeon most will say none unless your lieing and here just to fight with me. But Zytain should have been a MILESTONE a unforgettable EXPERIENCE that challenged you and made you Work Your (****) Off but i ran it once as soon as i hit 80 and it was just a a joke if that dungeon was a challenge for you then you yourself need to go play wow and join all the kids over there. But there is nothing not even a Spin chilling moment were your like OMG WE DID IT. if that was made into a raid and built for 10-20 people and have so skills change in a raid to help keep the game like it is but modify itself for raiders when in a raid dungeon till this day People Would still be running it and gearing and Working and Running this over and over again waiting for the next raid released
There shouldnt be a problem with this game adding raiding to the game its very easy to achieve just make a custom set of skills that activates when entering a raid that way the game stays the same for everyone who doesnt want to raid and those who do want to raid are happy as well
the way i look at it, if i wanted a raid i’d go play WoW. i don’t want a raid, so i play GW2.
I agree with this , and i hope Anet also do not bring this game closer to WoW then it already is with the gear grind.
There is NO need for raids in my opinion.
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The Thing is WOW is not a raid game anymore The Game is trash raiding died in that game 5 years ago when they made it so any 5 year old could do them just like GW2 dungeons are currently
The Thing is WOW is not a raid game anymore The Game is trash raiding died in that game 5 years ago when they made it so any 5 year old could do them just like GW2 dungeons are currently
So let it be like that , WoW changing the raid system to the way it is proves it is the way most people like it.
Heh , im amazed you people think Anet would listen to you , and add raids against others people wills but then wont make it easier when other ask for it.
You now are the ones asking and we are the ones in your way , but i assure you that if they add raids , then this situation will only invert … and then again if you win now , guess who will win then heh.
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The Thing is WOW is not a raid game anymore The Game is trash raiding died in that game 5 years ago when they made it so any 5 year old could do them just like GW2 dungeons are currently
Then surely that tells you there’s a problem with the mechanics not being challenging enough, rather than ‘oh, dungeons are too easy, that means we need raids’?
I dunno, Ancient Karka would make a great world event, providing:
- Mechanics were challenging (rather than just big health, damage and dodging AoE. Maybe only certain environmental weapons can damage the outer shell. Maybe it eats its young to regain health, meaning you have to take care of adds. Not really challenging, but that was the best I could personally come up with.)
- The fight had more than one angle to it (i.e. rather than everyone just pummeling onto him to kill him, players would have to block paths to drive it back down into wherever it came from, meaning players would have to organize into groups to achieve this, otherwise the Karka would just go wherever it liked. At the same time, some players would have to keep the Karka busy so it doesn’t go running off. Also, the Ancient Karka could call Karka from all around the island, meaning that the group keeping the Ancient Karka busy could get flanked, meaning another group would have to protect that groups rear)
Life is a journey.
Time is a river.
The door is ajar.
Time is a river.
The door is ajar.
So let it be like that , WoW changing the raid system to the way it is proves it is the way most people like it.
Heh , im amazed you people think Anet would listen to you , and add raids against others people wills but then wont make it easier when other ask for it.
You now are the ones asking and we are the ones in your way , but i assure you that if they add raids , then this situation will only invert … and then again if you win now , guess who will win then heh.
Wait! I thought you said you were gonna quit GW2, yet here you are the Great Defender.
Why you still bashing every person with an idea that gets put out here since you obviously care so much for the state of the game, but your sig says otherwise. Come on why do you think you are in “our” way. Even if my idea does not make it, I will probably still play the game and love doing so all the while.
If the community takes an idea and everyone agrees that its a positive for the game or they can at least collaborate on the idea and work out the details together and it gets a lot of comments, the dev’s will take notice.
Why do you try to stop some good ideas if you are leaving anyway?
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Wait! I thought you said you were gonna quit GW2, yet here you are the Great Defender.
Why you still bashing every person with an idea that gets put out here since you obviously care so much for the state of the game, but your sig says otherwise. Come on why do you think you are in “our” way. Even if my idea does not make it, I will probably still play the game and love doing so all the while.
If the community takes an idea and everyone agrees that its a positive for the game or they can at least collaborate on the idea and work out the details together and it gets a lot of comments, the dev’s will take notice. But someone like you, who really only loves to troll people for the hell of it tries to derail every conversation by only being negative and never adding to the context, or fix the idea so we could all benefit, is what I expect from a 13 year old.
Why do you try to stop some good ideas if you are leaving anyway?
First do i intend to leave , yes i do. Not now at least , like my sign says the game is not out yet , gotta wait till then. And maybe , while not likely , Anet may prove to fix their “mistakes” (while i know they might have been to me and not to many others , so i dont hold high hopes)
Second “great idea”? When will people learn … great ideas are mere points of view. End.
Third , i gotta better things to than waste my time trolling. My posts are based on my opinions , not because i had nothing better to do and decide to waste time trolling in these forums.
That said if the majority agrees , that is also a really biased thing , the “majority” , is online now , playing , not on these forums , that is a know thing , we people on the forums , we are not part of it, we cant even voice them without being biased also.
So , we discuss thing we and other people we know and agree with want pushed forward , simple like that , maybe not the majority , but we may belong to a big group of people nonetheless , both you and I , ones want raids , you , others are tired of the same thing on so many MMOs , me.
Like i said , this game does not need raids , this is my opinion and also the opinion of many others , i personally dont disagree with big PvE events , but they should be taken into the open world , like what GW2 proposed at its start.
Do not simple begin judging other people troll because they disagree with you. Like I did not call anyone trolls for putting forward this idea.
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Lol i once said after the gw2 beta that alot of people who are hardcore typical mmo players were gonna get turned off by this game they did not believe me now the regular mmo players are here wanting changes….its not gonna happen gw2 is set apart from your basic mmo and its doin a fantastic job so far.
They should just convert that encounter into something similar to the dragon encounters like shatterer and Jormag. This will keep people coming back to the zone once the novelty of that zone wears off, I notice those zones with these dragons spawns tend to have more foot traffic from people.
I myself believe This game can Use a good raid or to those that Disagree with ME are just like the 5 year olds from World Of Warcraft that cryed and cryed and cryed untill the game was so Easy that about Half of the games Hard core Players and 5-6 year vets quit because there was no reason to play anymore guild wars two is On the same track i already feel the means to not log on anymore because all this game is currently is a PVP ROLL FACE ACROSS KEYBOARD game nothing more just pvp everywere and u all have to think not everyone likes pvp some people Like Myself Like a good story and a challenge.
I want every one of you here to tell me how many times have u seen ANYONE saying LFG Zytain Dungeon most will say none unless your lieing and here just to fight with me. But Zytain should have been a MILESTONE a unforgettable EXPERIENCE that challenged you and made you Work Your (****) Off but i ran it once as soon as i hit 80 and it was just a a joke if that dungeon was a challenge for you then you yourself need to go play wow and join all the kids over there. But there is nothing not even a Spin chilling moment were your like OMG WE DID IT. if that was made into a raid and built for 10-20 people and have so skills change in a raid to help keep the game like it is but modify itself for raiders when in a raid dungeon till this day People Would still be running it and gearing and Working and Running this over and over again waiting for the next raid released
There shouldnt be a problem with this game adding raiding to the game its very easy to achieve just make a custom set of skills that activates when entering a raid that way the game stays the same for everyone who doesnt want to raid and those who do want to raid are happy as well
I got about 1/4 of the way through the first paragraph and ran out of breath. Please use punctuation. I am not trying to Grammar nazi you but at least try to use some somewhere.
FoTM is in all essential a RAID like I stated before it fits all RAID criteria minus the fact that it only requires 5 people instead of 10 or 25.
Personally I have seen pleanty of people on my server say LFG Arah Story mode which is Zhaitan ( not Zyatain ), As the dungeon is called Arah not Zhaitan dungeon.
Guild Wars has always been more about PvP than PvE, sorry to tell you this. On the other side I felt the over all story of the game and the lore that is rich in the content of the world is there, you just have to come out of a city to see it.
When I finally beat Zhaitan I stated to myself, That was cool I like how they did that. Was it as challenging as I hoped no, but it was still a cool ending to a great story.
Sorry I am not fighting with you I just don’t agree with you on any of your points, not to mention I was barely able to focus enough on your 1/4 page post of 4 sentences.
the way i look at it, if i wanted a raid i’d go play WoW. i don’t want a raid, so i play GW2.
I agree with this , and i hope Anet also do not bring this game closer to WoW then it already is with the gear grind.
There is NO need for raids in my opinion.
Did you participate the event? Do you think the servers were ‘serving’ well? If you don’t think that the servers were capable of handling this event then why are you opposing to a solution for this problem?
I don’t play PvP but I never opposed the idea to have it with this game.
I am pretty sure most of the opposing people here got their rewards from the one time event and want others not to have the same.
Well its true, I did get those rewards from the event, and also FotM is a bit more like a raid, cause some of the bosses got some mechanics that need teamwork.
I just think that OTE’s are not conducive to a happy player environment. I mean its almost funny that Anet themselves would Work hard on something that is only gonna happen once in the games life(personal stories don’t count cause as soon as you get to a point its not about your racial story anymore and you can play other toons).
I think that the Event was great more like a raid than most of anything else in the game so far and yet it was plagued with disconnects, invisible enemies, and over aggro by players rushing ahead and pulling more aggro than the server participating could handle, which means no cooperation. I think instancing this would make it very playable without the things that went wrong.
I really felt that the players should get to play this more often and on their terms, when they have time, not when they decide is most likely the best time slot to put it up.
The only reason I think this should be called a raid and have a larger team based play is what I really think the ascended gear should have been a part of. Gear that is really only applicable in the raid type situation but still works fine in overall game play, without giving a major advantage over current top end gear. Make it so that FotM is a leadup to AK raid where you have to have protection from agony just so you don’t die instantly from the Ancient Karka’s super dose. But it needs that bigger team based play to make it successful cause 5 is just not enough to make some of the mechanics happen that need to happen.
Such events should stay in the game, like Raid Events, who does not want to kill
the giant Karka again? You make a great event like Karka, its a shame to be only playable once.