Guild Wars 2

Smooth Penguin.5294:

I would first like to thank Anet for providing us GW1 players with the nice bonus to our HoM achievements. It was stated by Anet that our GW2 characters would share in the glory of our GW1 ancestors, so this change is a welcome sight.

But I would discuss a possible bonus for those who actually maxed out our HoM. Getting 50/50 is a feat that took many many years, and getting a bonus for that in GW2 would be outstanding. I think an additional 500 achievement points for players with 50/50 could be acceptable.

I understand the argument that GW2 is a different game, and that this would punish current players who didn’t play GW1. But on the opposite side of that coin, it’s us hardcore GW1 players who paved the way for the current game we all know and love. The time invested in getting our HoM filled up is legendary. And since these two games are connected by lore, it makes perfect sense to not only get points for achievements in the current game, but also extra points for the loyalty and dedication we displayed.

An alternative to this would be, dare I say it, a free Precursor for all whom made 50/50? I did mention that our feats are legendary. So why not a gift to showcase this legendary status? It would also show Anet’s love for us!

Let’s open this discussion! The last update has shown it’s possible to make adjustments to the point standings. Any additional points or freebies would be the icing on the cake!

well, you got all the items and now that we have achievement chests the 200 achievement point bonus is nice, quit complaning. You don’t need anything extra.

GWAMM and 50/50 GW1 veteran here.

ANet shouldn’t give us anything more than what they already have. We KNEW that everything above 30/50 was going to be titles only, and GWAMM was always just a title. They said it a long time ago.

The fact that they made the achievements worth more now is icing, but they didn’t have to, and if it’s going to bring these entitled posts out of the woodwork, I almost wish that they hadn’t increased their point worth. Apparently, it makes people think that they can weasel more out, and that is ridiculous.

Surely giving only one precursor to the GW1 master race is not going far enough..?

I think we should also get Anet to reward us for our difficult achievements in even more games. I’ve got a 100% save file in Super Meat Boy which has to be worth at least an underwater precursor, if not a Dawn.

Trolling aside, this is an insane suggestion. You’ve already been rewarded in GW1 and GW2 for these achievements. You have an inbuilt 500 point advantage in achievement points, a bunch of titles, cosmetic items and minis.

Just enjoy it

As a 50/50 player I have to say no to this/these suggestions. We knew what we were getting, and we got that. That’s enough.

I got GW1 1 year before GW2 came out. Played for around 4months (Sept ~ Dec 2011)

Got 30/30 on my account.
Helped g/f get 25/30 on her account.
Helped 2 more friends get 15~20/30 HoM.
I had fun.

In 4 months. I didn’t even log that many hours…I work 9-5.

I’m 2300 hours into GW2 with 9.1k achieve, 9 lvl 80 chars including all professions each with 50%~100% map completion, R25 PvP, L50 FOTM, etc, yet I don’t have a precursor. I’m having fun.
Pretty sure I could 50/50 my gw1 account in a fraction of that amount of gameplay time if not less.

You wanna show max dedication to guild wars? Buy gems to convert 600gold. You’ll have your precursor that way. Otherwise, just have fun.

Orpheus.7284:

I got GW1 1 year before GW2 came out. Played for around 4months (Sept ~ Dec 2011)

Got 30/30 on my account.
Helped g/f get 25/30 on her account.
Helped 2 more friends get 15~20/30 HoM.
I had fun.

In 4 months. I didn’t even log that many hours…I work 9-5.

I’m 2300 hours into GW2 with 9.1k achieve, 9 lvl 80 chars including all professions each with 50%~100% map completion, R25 PvP, L50 FOTM, etc, yet I don’t have a precursor. I’m having fun.
Pretty sure I could 50/50 my gw1 account in a fraction of that amount of gameplay time if not less.

You wanna show max dedication to guild wars? Buy gems to convert 600gold. You’ll have your precursor that way. Otherwise, just have fun.

Oh I already got my Precursor and Legendary. I don’t need another. My suggestion was merely that, a suggestion. All my 50/50 brethren would stand to benefit from a bonus such as this. Again, it’s not necessary or anything, but would be a nice extra gift. Also, if a free Precursor was given to all 50/50 players, it wouldn’t be considered “entitlement”, since it would be deserved.

On a side note, it’s funny how you think it’s easy to max the HoM title. It’s like saying winning the World Cup is easy, since you only have to kick a ball into a large net more than the other team. The fact that you don’t have it maxed is proof enough that it’s a little too kittence you attempt it, you’ll finally understand how great a feat it is, and then you’ll definitely entertain my suggestions as being legit and fair.

I will never complete HoM, I will be lucky if I ever put in enough effort to actually pull off the points necessary to get all the “prizes” and I really want them. I think it is very cool that HoM is providing something like 500 points. All of that said, I have consistently felt it rather lame that all that anyone gets for completing HoM are a couple titles.

No, I don’t think titles are enough for how much effort some people have put in. I will repeat, I will never in my life benefit from this bonus, but I feel that this is not a bad thing. I am completely alright with a dedicated GW1 player creating a brand new GW2 account and automatically getting the first two bonus chests for free. Who exactly does it hurt, really?

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Oh I already got my Precursor and Legendary. I don’t need another. My suggestion was merely that, a suggestion. All my 50/50 brethren would stand to benefit from a bonus such as this. Again, it’s not necessary or anything, but would be a nice extra gift. Also, if a free Precursor was given to all 50/50 players, it wouldn’t be considered “entitlement”, since it would be deserved.

On a side note, it’s funny how you think it’s easy to max the HoM title. It’s like saying winning the World Cup is easy, since you only have to kick a ball into a large net more than the other team. The fact that you don’t have it maxed is proof enough that it’s a little too kittence you attempt it, you’ll finally understand how great a feat it is, and then you’ll definitely entertain my suggestions as being legit and fair.

I can’t believe you just compared getting 50/50 in HoM to winning the World Cup.

I didn’t do 50/50 because I wasn’t interested in the titles and rather spend my resources helping my friends’ accounts.

It’s good that you feel accomplished and believe that it’s some great feat…to me it just is not. That is all.

Actually, I think I’m being trolled by this thread. The whole “50/50 in a different game for a precursor” “50/50 = Winning World Cup” “what a great feat” has led me to this conclusion.

Orpheus.7284:

I got GW1 1 year before GW2 came out. Played for around 4months (Sept ~ Dec 2011)

Got 30/30 on my account.
Helped g/f get 25/30 on her account.
Helped 2 more friends get 15~20/30 HoM.
I had fun.

In 4 months. I didn’t even log that many hours…I work 9-5.

I’m 2300 hours into GW2 with 9.1k achieve, 9 lvl 80 chars including all professions each with 50%~100% map completion, R25 PvP, L50 FOTM, etc, yet I don’t have a precursor. I’m having fun.
Pretty sure I could 50/50 my gw1 account in a fraction of that amount of gameplay time if not less.

You wanna show max dedication to guild wars? Buy gems to convert 600gold. You’ll have your precursor that way. Otherwise, just have fun.

It takes no time at all to 30/30, 50/50 is a whole other discussion entirely. It’s also the reason why 30/30 is the last level that gives a tangible prize.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

There is no “entitlement” for something that is deserved. In this case, the proper term for it would be a “reward”.

But back to the point at hand. Having the bonus points for HoM is awesome in and of itself. I’m just suggesting that people with maxed out 50/50 could get a little bit extra. This idea is no different than getting your Quartz node for doing 16/16 Bazaar achievements.

It’s very different, in your point of view not only should people get the quartz node for 16/16 bazaar achievements but also receive one of back pieces free…

… on top of that get rewarded during next year’s bazaar with a new skin for having completed the event the previous year…

Amun Ra.6435:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

There is no “entitlement” for something that is deserved. In this case, the proper term for it would be a “reward”.

But back to the point at hand. Having the bonus points for HoM is awesome in and of itself. I’m just suggesting that people with maxed out 50/50 could get a little bit extra. This idea is no different than getting your Quartz node for doing 16/16 Bazaar achievements.

It’s very different, in your point of view not only should people get the quartz node for 16/16 bazaar achievements but also receive one of back pieces free…

… on top of that get rewarded during next year’s bazaar with a new skin for having completed the event the previous year…

This is an erroneous representation of the suggestion and a terrible interpretation of efforts and work done.

I don’t understand the argument over this…
It’s not like it’s actually going to be taken into consideration…

guywithcrabs.7890:

I don’t understand the argument over this…
It’s not like it’s actually going to be taken into consideration…

Because people who can’t have a thing, no matter how insignificant the impact that thing has on their lives can’t stand the idea of someone else getting it. They are required by some faulty inner working to actively take action against it to the kittenation of everyone.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Orpheus.7284:

I got GW1 1 year before GW2 came out. Played for around 4months (Sept ~ Dec 2011)

Got 30/30 on my account.
Helped g/f get 25/30 on her account.
Helped 2 more friends get 15~20/30 HoM.
I had fun.

In 4 months. I didn’t even log that many hours…I work 9-5.

I’m 2300 hours into GW2 with 9.1k achieve, 9 lvl 80 chars including all professions each with 50%~100% map completion, R25 PvP, L50 FOTM, etc, yet I don’t have a precursor. I’m having fun.
Pretty sure I could 50/50 my gw1 account in a fraction of that amount of gameplay time if not less.

You wanna show max dedication to guild wars? Buy gems to convert 600gold. You’ll have your precursor that way. Otherwise, just have fun.

It takes no time at all to 30/30, 50/50 is a whole other discussion entirely. It’s also the reason why 30/30 is the last level that gives a tangible prize.

I don’t mean 30/30 and 50/50 has little difference… But if you played GW1 for awhile (unlike me i played only 4 months off and on) you are gonna get it. Because the most time consuming achievements are money based. So basically if you’ve been playing GW1 for a few years you’re gonna get it.

I have a friend…he’s spent thousands of real life money on GW2, almost 2000 hours, I’d say he’s more commited to GW than most. Guess what he doesn’t have? HoM Skins, Titles, 500 potential achievement point that can make a difference in his standing of the leaderboards…Be satisfied already, you got things that people can’t buy and you’re asking for a 10g~500g bonus? So petty.

It’s fine the way it is. I’m really happy with all the rewards we got, but lets not overdo it.

Orpheus.7284:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Orpheus.7284:

I got GW1 1 year before GW2 came out. Played for around 4months (Sept ~ Dec 2011)

Got 30/30 on my account.
Helped g/f get 25/30 on her account.
Helped 2 more friends get 15~20/30 HoM.
I had fun.

In 4 months. I didn’t even log that many hours…I work 9-5.

I’m 2300 hours into GW2 with 9.1k achieve, 9 lvl 80 chars including all professions each with 50%~100% map completion, R25 PvP, L50 FOTM, etc, yet I don’t have a precursor. I’m having fun.
Pretty sure I could 50/50 my gw1 account in a fraction of that amount of gameplay time if not less.

You wanna show max dedication to guild wars? Buy gems to convert 600gold. You’ll have your precursor that way. Otherwise, just have fun.

It takes no time at all to 30/30, 50/50 is a whole other discussion entirely. It’s also the reason why 30/30 is the last level that gives a tangible prize.

I don’t mean 30/30 and 50/50 has little difference… But if you played GW1 for awhile (unlike me i played only 4 months off and on) you are gonna get it. Because the most time consuming achievements are money based. So basically if you’ve been playing GW1 for a few years you’re gonna get it.

I have a friend…he’s spent thousands of real life money on GW2, almost 2000 hours, I’d say he’s more commited to GW than most. Guess what he doesn’t have? HoM Skins, Titles, 500 potential achievement point that can make a difference in his standing of the leaderboards…Be satisfied already, you got things that people can’t buy and you’re asking for a 10g~500g bonus? So petty.

I will point out, once again, I don’t enjoy GW1 and will never get 50/50. I’ll be lucky if I can get 30/30. I actually got my GW1 account when they announced the account linking and reserving character names thing for GW2, so I’ve played it even less than you have. So now you get where I’m coming from, maybe. I still support this and think it’s a very good and cool idea.

Kal Spiro.9745:

I will point out, once again, I don’t enjoy GW1 and will never get 50/50. I’ll be lucky if I can get 30/30. I actually got my GW1 account when they announced the account linking and reserving character names thing for GW2, so I’ve played it even less than you have. So now you get where I’m coming from, maybe. I still support this and think it’s a very good and cool idea.

I knew where u were coming from. The “you” in my last sentences in my previous post was directed towards the OP.

But now that you’ve brought up the fact that you barely played GW1…how would you know how difficult it is to get 50/50?

I say it is not difficult for reasons in my previous post, you and OP apparently think it is and that this “oh so great feat” deserves hundreds of gold on top of the 500 AP, Exclusive Skins and Titles that money can’t buy, in a totally different game…..Got it.

Orpheus.7284:

Kal Spiro.9745:

I will point out, once again, I don’t enjoy GW1 and will never get 50/50. I’ll be lucky if I can get 30/30. I actually got my GW1 account when they announced the account linking and reserving character names thing for GW2, so I’ve played it even less than you have. So now you get where I’m coming from, maybe. I still support this and think it’s a very good and cool idea.

I knew where u were coming from. The “you” in my last sentences in my previous post was directed towards the OP.

But now that you’ve brought up the fact that you barely played GW1…how would you know how difficult it is to get 50/50?

I say it is not difficult for reasons in my previous post, you and OP apparently think it is and that this “oh so great feat” deserves hundreds of gold on top of the 500 AP, Exclusive Skins and Titles that money can’t buy, in a totally different game…..Got it.

Because I also researched heavily what was necessarily to do to get the points I would need to get everything I wanted. All that information makes it abundantly clear how difficult that task is and why there aren’t many of them in the community.

But who said anything about gold? I definately didn’t say gold. I’m talking about 500AP, that’s all. That is worth 2 gold at best, and that is only if you have a brand new account since it would get you the 100 prize and the 500 prize.

As for skins, that is only if you happened to land on a skin prize. And the titles are already there, but they are a lame excuse of a prize concidering what they got for 1-30 and how much more work the other 20 points were compared to the 30 before them.

It’s basically the same game. GW1 and GW2 are connected by lore. GW1 HoM is in fact a part of the GW2 map, since it’s the same Tyria we’re talking about. So the counter point of “this is a different game” is invalid.

It’s fine that people think we don’t deserve credit for 50/50. It’s fine that people think the current credit we got for 50/50 is reasonable. And it’s fine if people think we should get extra. That’s what this discussion is about. I’m ok with whatever direction Anet goes. But I will voice my opinion that people who put in the time to max their HoM are worthy of additional praise.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Orpheus.7284:

Kal Spiro.9745:

I will point out, once again, I don’t enjoy GW1 and will never get 50/50. I’ll be lucky if I can get 30/30. I actually got my GW1 account when they announced the account linking and reserving character names thing for GW2, so I’ve played it even less than you have. So now you get where I’m coming from, maybe. I still support this and think it’s a very good and cool idea.

I knew where u were coming from. The “you” in my last sentences in my previous post was directed towards the OP.

But now that you’ve brought up the fact that you barely played GW1…how would you know how difficult it is to get 50/50?

I say it is not difficult for reasons in my previous post, you and OP apparently think it is and that this “oh so great feat” deserves hundreds of gold on top of the 500 AP, Exclusive Skins and Titles that money can’t buy, in a totally different game…..Got it.

Because I also researched heavily what was necessarily to do to get the points I would need to get everything I wanted. All that information makes it abundantly clear how difficult that task is and why there aren’t many of them in the community.

But who said anything about gold? I definately didn’t say gold. I’m talking about 500AP, that’s all. That is worth 2 gold at best, and that is only if you have a brand new account since it would get you the 100 prize and the 500 prize.

He’s asking for a precursor for every 50/50s…which atm is anywhere up to 600g. I thought this is the idea you were supporting.

I actually see a lot of 50/50s out there, i know some 50/50s that don’t even play GW2 anymore and went back to GW1…there is quite a few of them in the community I can assure you.

Also, people value things differently. In my previous post I already stated the current reward is very good because they can’t be bought with GW2 gold. They’re “exclusive”.
Anyone can get a precursor from the TP by running CoF for a week if they want to. But no amount of CoF is going to get you Fiery gauntlet (which is still one of the best looking vambraces in the game imo), no amount of CoF will get you 500 achievement points, and no amount of CoF will get you GWAMM title. They are priceless.

Orpheus.7284:

He’s asking for a precursor for every 50/50s…which atm is anywhere up to 600g. I thought this is the idea you were supporting.

I only suggested it as an option. It’s not necessary to do, but if Anet did, my argument is that it would be well deserved.

Orpheus.7284:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Orpheus.7284:

Kal Spiro.9745:

I will point out, once again, I don’t enjoy GW1 and will never get 50/50. I’ll be lucky if I can get 30/30. I actually got my GW1 account when they announced the account linking and reserving character names thing for GW2, so I’ve played it even less than you have. So now you get where I’m coming from, maybe. I still support this and think it’s a very good and cool idea.

I knew where u were coming from. The “you” in my last sentences in my previous post was directed towards the OP.

But now that you’ve brought up the fact that you barely played GW1…how would you know how difficult it is to get 50/50?

I say it is not difficult for reasons in my previous post, you and OP apparently think it is and that this “oh so great feat” deserves hundreds of gold on top of the 500 AP, Exclusive Skins and Titles that money can’t buy, in a totally different game…..Got it.

Because I also researched heavily what was necessarily to do to get the points I would need to get everything I wanted. All that information makes it abundantly clear how difficult that task is and why there aren’t many of them in the community.

But who said anything about gold? I definately didn’t say gold. I’m talking about 500AP, that’s all. That is worth 2 gold at best, and that is only if you have a brand new account since it would get you the 100 prize and the 500 prize.

He’s asking for a precursor for every 50/50s…which atm is anywhere up to 600g. I thought this is the idea you were supporting.

I actually see a lot of 50/50s out there, i know some 50/50s that don’t even play GW2 anymore and went back to GW1…there is quite a few of them in the community I can assure you.

Also, people value things differently. In my previous post I already stated the current reward is very good because they can’t be bought with GW2 gold. They’re “exclusive”.
Anyone can get a precursor from the TP by running CoF for a week if they want to. But no amount of CoF is going to get you Fiery gauntlet (which is still one of the best looking vambraces in the game imo), no amount of CoF will get you 500 achievement points, and no amount of CoF will get you GWAMM title. They are priceless.

No, that’s a stupid idea and I don’t support that. I support giving them an extra 500 AP just cause. That doesn’t effect anyone or make any kind of difference in the game and was the original suggestion.

@OP
So what you’re saying is the reason you played GW1… was to be handed kitten for free in GW2…

Do you approach all MMO’s with this job mentality in the hopes of getting stuff in return from their hypothetical sequels?

Kitsune.1902:

So if anything, I’d ask for an additional 50 point title that’s more appropriate for ALL the races, not just the humans. Beyond that, a second armor skin set for points 31-50 would be great.

+1
I totally agree.
Getting achievement points it just stupid since you can get infinite amount just doing all the stuff for day/month, which is stupid anyway.
It would be best to get some skins, since that is what shows up in the game the most.

GWAMM? Don’t make me laugh, that was one of easiest things I have done for HoM, so noone is showing off with the title, since most ppl want for 30-35 points + GWAMM. Getting above 40 points and till 50 was a challenge and most ppl just didn’t do it.

Co like legendary is noticeable, HoM should have very noticeable skins above 40 points, since that would mean anything.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

It’s basically the same game. GW1 and GW2 are connected by lore. GW1 HoM is in fact a part of the GW2 map, since it’s the same Tyria we’re talking about. So the counter point of “this is a different game” is invalid.

You do realise that it is quite literally a different game?

I bought GW2, have never played GW1, and currently can’t… without going out and buying another game. Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2 are different games, and saying they’re “basically the same game” doesn’t make it so.

Clearly they’re similar games, made by the same company and set in the same world. But they’re so obviously not the same game that claiming they are makes me think you’re trolling (although the whole “give me a precursor now pls” thing is another hint in that direction I suppose!)

Hyung.6140:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

It’s basically the same game. GW1 and GW2 are connected by lore. GW1 HoM is in fact a part of the GW2 map, since it’s the same Tyria we’re talking about. So the counter point of “this is a different game” is invalid.

You do realise that it is quite literally a different game?

I bought GW2, have never played GW1, and currently can’t… without going out and buying another game. Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2 are different games, and saying they’re “basically the same game” doesn’t make it so.

Clearly they’re similar games, made by the same company and set in the same world. But they’re so obviously not the same game that claiming they are makes me think you’re trolling (although the whole “give me a precursor now pls” thing is another hint in that direction I suppose!)

Having never played GW1, I can understand why you don’t realize that it’s the same game world. The Hall of Monuments was made so you could transfer your past achievements to the current GW2 world, 200+ years in the future. The day that Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2 has a continuous lore that’s connected by a mechanism that allows you to transfer your scores between games, then your argument would hold some value.

I don’t know whether to laugh or feel sad about this thread.

[quote=2388663;Smooth Penguin.5294:]

For me I would like the emote or a dance for 50/50 it doesn’t effect anyone. It’s not greedy it doesn’t affect gameplay and it would be a status thing only.

I would like to ask that the heritage armor be changed to something like FoW armor or 15k Elite armor looks cause the current heritage armor looks bad and is quite ugly. The weapons could have been something more GW’s like: ie Torment Weapons or Oppressor Weapons but I don’t mind most of the skins in there as they are pretty cool, tho a Icey Dragon sword should have been a skin as well.

Hmm, one element of the various arguments I don’t understand is the relevance of the amount of effort it took to go from 30/30 to 50/50.

I’m not in any way implying that it was easy – I couldn’t do it. I don’t have the time or the patience, so good job to the people who did it.

BUT. I do believe it was clear that there would be no tangible rewards for any levels higher then 30/30 for people getting the HoM achievements. The rewards would be vanity items only, such as titles. Which you got.

Entering into that agreement, you basically declared that you were aware your reward would be essentially titles. And the huge satisfaction of getting through the challenge. And you know what? You WERE happy with that. That WAS the reward. It was the advertised reward and it was the received reward and nobody thought any more about it.

But the MOMENT ANet hand you some more stuff, you decide that you deserve more. You say it yourself “we deserve it”. Why? You got exactly what you signed up for and deserved. Now you ask for more, which, to me, rather suggests that this would go above and beyond what is strictly deserved.

Oh, I’m not saying I’m against the rewards, and I am not asking anyone to give anything back or saying you shouldn’t have these. I couldn’t care less about any of that (as you’ll see I’ve said already several times).

I’m just interested in where this request for more actually fits in, because the argument “we deserve it” doesn’t fit in. You DO deserve what you already have. I didn’t think anyone was really denying that (leaving aside the AP points, as that wasn’t previously given). The AP points, well, I could argue either way on that one though it doesn’t bother me. But it DOES show that ANet have now rewarded you above and beyond what they originally advertised (ie what you could reasonably demand with the term “deserve”), and still you feel you deserve more. THAT’S the bit I don’t get.

CrossedHorse.4261:

Hmm, one element of the various arguments I don’t understand is the relevance of the amount of effort it took to go from 30/30 to 50/50.

I’m not in any way implying that it was easy – I couldn’t do it. I don’t have the time or the patience, so good job to the people who did it.

BUT. I do believe it was clear that there would be no tangible rewards for any levels higher then 30/30 for people getting the HoM achievements. The rewards would be vanity items only, such as titles. Which you got.

Entering into that agreement, you basically declared that you were aware your reward would be essentially titles. And the huge satisfaction of getting through the challenge. And you know what? You WERE happy with that. That WAS the reward. It was the advertised reward and it was the received reward and nobody thought any more about it.

But the MOMENT ANet hand you some more stuff, you decide that you deserve more. You say it yourself “we deserve it”. Why? You got exactly what you signed up for and deserved. Now you ask for more, which, to me, rather suggests that this would go above and beyond what is strictly deserved.

Oh, I’m not saying I’m against the rewards, and I am not asking anyone to give anything back or saying you shouldn’t have these. I couldn’t care less about any of that (as you’ll see I’ve said already several times).

I’m just interested in where this request for more actually fits in, because the argument “we deserve it” doesn’t fit in. You DO deserve what you already have. I didn’t think anyone was really denying that (leaving aside the AP points, as that wasn’t previously given). The AP points, well, I could argue either way on that one though it doesn’t bother me. But it DOES show that ANet have now rewarded you above and beyond what they originally advertised (ie what you could reasonably demand with the term “deserve”), and still you feel you deserve more. THAT’S the bit I don’t get.

Accepting what you get, and deserving more than you get are in no way related circumstances.

That said I’m not saying they deserve anything, but I think it would be an acceptable reward for the effort if extra rewards beyond what was already promised are being handed out anyway. It being the extra AP and only the extra AP.

I would say only if you were not in clear understanding of what the reward was in the first place.

But most people played for HoM points knowing that they wouldn’t receive more than titles, or they played just for the challenge. There was never any option, and they were fine with that.

My ONLY issue with ANet giving them these extra points is that some of them (please note, I say SOME, I by no means include them all in this) suddenly interpret that to be some sort of negotiation. Which is really isn’t. And suddenly it seems like the reasons they played before didn’t exist. People go on and on about a sense of achievement. This is one area that really shows that the achievement is the important part, not the reward, and people fall at the first hurdle. I just think it shows them in a bad light – whether or not they mean it to seem the way it does.

The reward itself, in this particular argument, isn’t even really all that relevant. I’ve argued in other posts why I think this reward is fine. I’m just taking issue with the attitude, rather than the reward. And again, the attitude comment only applies to some, not all – probably not even most.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Hyung.6140:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

It’s basically the same game. GW1 and GW2 are connected by lore. GW1 HoM is in fact a part of the GW2 map, since it’s the same Tyria we’re talking about. So the counter point of “this is a different game” is invalid.

You do realise that it is quite literally a different game?

I bought GW2, have never played GW1, and currently can’t… without going out and buying another game. Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2 are different games, and saying they’re “basically the same game” doesn’t make it so.

Clearly they’re similar games, made by the same company and set in the same world. But they’re so obviously not the same game that claiming they are makes me think you’re trolling (although the whole “give me a precursor now pls” thing is another hint in that direction I suppose!)

Having never played GW1, I can understand why you don’t realize that it’s the same game world. The Hall of Monuments was made so you could transfer your past achievements to the current GW2 world, 200+ years in the future. The day that Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2 has a continuous lore that’s connected by a mechanism that allows you to transfer your scores between games, then your argument would hold some value.

Er, I did explicitly say that it’s the same game world. But it’s a different actual game. This isn’t some debatable point. They are different games.

I agree with you that they’re set in the same world. I also know that ArenaNet promised to link the games via achievements from GW1 giving rewards in GW2.

I’m not debating either of those things.

I’m just pointing out that they are different games, which is one of those things you can’t have an opinion on because it’s a measurable fact. Saying “they’re basically the same game” doesn’t make it so.

(To be clear since we possibly may be using varying definitions for “different games” I’m claiming that if you gave people a massive pile of retail game boxes of GW1 and GW2 and paid them to sort them into piles of the same game you would end up with two piles – one of GW1 and one of GW2. Nothing more complex than that – and clearly anyone doing that job wouldn’t ask “are these games linked by lore and by a meta-achievement system?”)

Regardless of this pointless diversion, I’m quite happy for Anet to reward people for achievements awarded in their other games. It’s a good business practice from their point of view and is nice for the players.

But the fact they’ve done that doesn’t make them both the same actual game.

Hope that’s all clear and that you’re having a lovely day!

I had a funny thought towards OP’s “it’s the same game” logic.

If you do believe that you should be playing GW1 and asking for a Precursor in GW1 for your 50/50. There’s no precursor in GW1? How could that be It’s the same game!!

Also I think you’d be fine if when you ordered GW2 from amazon or whatever and get GW1 instead…it’s the same game just take it.

Orpheus.7284:

I had a funny thought towards OP’s “it’s the same game” logic.

If you do believe that you should be playing GW1 and asking for a Precursor in GW1 for your 50/50. There’s no precursor in GW1? How could that be It’s the same game!!

Also I think you’d be fine if when you ordered GW2 from amazon or whatever and get GW1 instead…it’s the same game just take it.

Precusors are needed to create a Legendary weapon. Legendary weapons didn’t exist yet in GW1, since it takes many centuries for such a weapon to gain that status. So your example is invalid.

I would like to point out that we did have similar rare weapons in GW1. They’re called Tormented weapons. When they first came out, they were worth a lot more then than Precursors now. As more Tormented weapons came to the market, the lower the prices fell. A similar thing will happen to Precursors

But let’s not derail the topic. There has been some good suggestions on what a bonus could be. Now that it’s been discussed, it seems like there are too many “titles” currently, and that getting a Precursor (while rightfully deserved) might be a little too much for free. That leaves the idea of a unique emote that 50/50 players could get. Similar to the /aion wings or the original /rank animal profiles.

I want to point out that for me I said “I would like” not “I deserve” I think it would be nice to have the special Emote or Dance again I say it’s not game breaking just a status thing.

I was happy with what I had and I am happy with what I have gotten (other than the fact that the Armor is ugly and in no way looks like what a heritage armor should look like).

I would also like to point out that the GWAMM title was to be a title transfer AND a reward. It was put on the GW’s 1 wiki and their main page but all references has been removed (I know I have looked for it to show people) which is why I did it to begin with.

I think most people (and yet I know some are demanding) aren’t saying they deserve something just that for 50 points something other than a title would have been nice.

Oh and I personally think that GWAMM was harder than HoM’s 50 points cause you actually had to finish all the titles on GWAMM, on HoM’s there were plenty of titles you only had to get to level/rank 4 or so.

Zorby.8236:

I’m all up for ANet giving more rewards to 50/50 Hom…in GW1, because that’s where you earned it.

Exactly². This thread is pure joke, I can’t take it seriously tbh.

Now you’re just being greedy…

Smooth Penguin.5294:

There is no “entitlement” for something that is deserved. In this case, the proper term for it would be a “reward”.

But back to the point at hand. Having the bonus points for HoM is awesome in and of itself. I’m just suggesting that people with maxed out 50/50 could get a little bit extra. This idea is no different than getting your Quartz node for doing 16/16 Bazaar achievements.

We GW1 players already got that extra. It was the ap points buff. Asking for more is plain greedy. Stop this, you are giving all of us a bad reputation.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Also, if a free Precursor was given to all 50/50 players, it wouldn’t be considered “entitlement”, since it would be deserved.

Your character’s GW1 ancestors “deserved” and got rewards for their accomplishments.

They left you a beautiful Hall of Monuments, and you let it fall into disrepair. I think they would be ashamed to see how their descendants have treated their legacy. Be glad they put you in their will at all.

Besides, they didn’t have precursors in GW1. How are they going to leave it to you in GW2?

A player had a great new suggestion!

denny.8350:

How about… 100 AP for every level 20 toon you have in GW1 and for every year they have been around? :-)

I will throw this in for Anet to consider, in addition to bonus points and/or a special emote and/or a Precursor for people with maxed 50/50 HoM.

This has gotten ridiculous. You get 1 free achievement chest, 11 titles, a bunch of armor and weapon skins (some with better skins than other in game items), can’t we be happy for what they did give us. And yes i too have gotten gwamm and 50/50 i don’t need more stuff to take up my inventory space.
That being said i did wish that at 50/50 you could put 1 weapon from gw1 into hom to unlock that skin in gw2 ie my envoy staff but im not going to ask for more than what they already have given us.

Guild Wars 2 is not a sequel to the original. It is an alternate.

chedder.6302:

That being said i did wish that at 50/50 you could put 1 weapon from gw1 into hom to unlock that skin in gw2 ie my envoy staff but im not going to ask for more than what they already have given us.

Excellent suggestion. Tormented swords should be in this game.

Nightarch.2943:

Guild Wars 2 is not a sequel to the original. It is an alternate.

Sorry, but your post doesn’t make much sense. GW2 is the sequel to the same game as GW1.