Breaking Elites / Community Segregation

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Posted by: Joseph Skyrim.2470

Joseph Skyrim.2470

Ok this is a very rough idea but please bear with me. It’s mainly an attempt to lessen what I’m seeing as community segregation:

LFG AC Lev 80 only
LF2M FotM Lev 80 exotics only etc.

I think there should be two collectable items per dungeon that combined make up the “awesome” reward/or just combined to make a coin which you then spend the normal way. How does this work? Well…

Item 1 – Should be ye old standard go do the hard explorables and high level fractals, and the more you do the more you get, the harder it is – the more rewarding. This is already in place for the most part, and yes the speed running, full exotic wielding lev 80s can hammer these out as they are doing now.

Item 2 – Is much like item 1, however its drop rate is reversed. You get item 2 by running story mode, and you get way more item 2 by running fractals level 1 than fractals level 10. Also, it should take into account the party’s total level, and the lower the level, the more of item 2 is rewarded as a bonus. Even more for each member not using exotics or better.

Both items are account bound. Remember, you need to combine -both- to get, create, or purchase a prize.

Yeah pretty sure it can be made better but at least this way there will be more people to run low level stuff and when they get bored they can cycle back to their speed runs?
What do you think? I’m interested to hear any suggestions and such on this – as I said, it’s very rough.

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

As good as it sounds, it also sounds very complex. But regrettably here is the hitch

Most Elitist are doing it because the Think it is faster so why do something harder when I can do something easier. it wont stop it will just add another level of Elitism

The only real solution is just ignore them and hopefully enough people ignore them long enough that they change

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Posted by: Joseph Skyrim.2470

Joseph Skyrim.2470

Because 50% (Item 1) of what they need, -does- come from doing harder stuff. It’s just they have to take a time out to get the other 50% (Item 2) they need and help others (non l33tists) in the process.

Not too complex theory wise. Coding wise probably annoying though.

Let’s take Ascalon Catacombs:
Instead of handing out “Tears of Ascalon” lets make two new collectibles.
Item 1 – “Kaimick’s deadly smile” comes from explorable
Item 2 – “Kaimick’s sharp mind” comes from story mode, and low level total party bonus
Combine Item 1 and Item 2 to make “Tears of Ascalon”?

[hehe, now you’ll get the blame if it goes ahead!]

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Posted by: Kaimick.5109

Kaimick.5109

LOL it is a good start…. like what do you call 100 lawyers at the bottom of the Atlantic, a Good start. But how do you make an elitist team up with people that are not geared? You can’t they will Segregate on the difficult ones and then Segregate on the easy ones.

Ending elitism has been a struggle every game from FPS to MMO to Fighting games have struggled to rid them selves of and yet here we are 10 years later and we still have the parasites known as ELITIST

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Posted by: Joseph Skyrim.2470

Joseph Skyrim.2470

Just re-read what I typed and yeah that doesn’t fix it does it? :P Ok, I need to rework it… Maybe the tweak should be…

You -can- get, buy or build stuff with item 1 (ugly stuff but functional).
You -can- get, buy or build stuff with item 2 (nice looking stuff).
The best stuff you can get is using the combined item (best looking, like… capes or wings or halos or whatever).

Meowmeowmeowkittenmeow. That still won’t work huh?

How the hell does Mabinogi get away with it…. oh yeah. Because all armor is the same in stats, it’s just aesthetics that change. Ok that’s unlikely to happen here so… stumped again.

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Posted by: Golgathoth.3967

Golgathoth.3967

I’m kind of ok with all the elitists being in FotM, since I have no desire to do it myself. Maybe I’ll be able to get some ok groups for TA, aka the only dungeon I’m ever gonna farm.

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