Guild Wars 2

Legendaries have become the “goto” weapons if you want ultimate quality of life in terms of flexibility. A player with a legendary has all stats in one whereas a player using ascended gear would need multiple items.

Please Anet, bring a lesser version of stat switching to ascended gear. For example, give each ascended weapon an empty stat list which we can fill up manually.

So then we have legendaries that have access to all stats right off the bat. Then ascended which needs to be manually expanded.

They are not going to do this because of the way they implemented them (each weapon need different materials, and even drops are given with fixed stats). Hence, changing this implies accepting this implementation has been a fail and devs aren’t going to accept this. Ever.

Anyway, I agree with OP. If we were able to change the stats of ascended items, the grind would be worth enough to do it

Will never happen

For amount of time and money spent this is perfectly reasonable but anet is all about dat money sink so it won’t happen. they want you to waste more weeks and hundreds of gold more and mooooar.

Calm down guys, being able to switch stats on your Ascended gear will be available soon. Once the “Devine Ascended” gear is rolled out in late 2014, higher damage stats along with stat-switching will be included.

Ision.3207:

Calm down guys, being able to switch stats on your Ascended gear will be available soon. Once the “Devine Ascended” gear is rolled out in late 2014, higher damage stats along with stat-switching will be included.

You forgot the 450g needed to craft one of these.

So what’s the point of Legendary, then? You want stat changing, you know where to find it.

Allisa Wonderland.8192:

So what’s the point of Legendary, then? You want stat changing, you know where to find it.

point of a legendary? the flashiest skin in the game and you have the opportunity to assist at the worst grind GW2 has to offer you. How isn’t this enough?

Allisa Wonderland.8192:

So what’s the point of Legendary, then? You want stat changing, you know where to find it.

Who knows, perhaps being a visual item, as it was intended and was until sept 3rd?

Please people, gather information before talking about a topic.

Allisa Wonderland.8192:

So what’s the point of Legendary, then?

I don’t know, looks maybe?

This is something that actually might happen. I don’t think that the intention of Anet was to kill build diversity or alts when they implemented vertical progression. Rather, I think they had no idea what the cost of managing VP was and what untoward effects they would be facing. VP does kill build diversity and makes alts nonviable. I can easily see them addressing these issues one day. Easy modification of hard to get gear supports build diversity. It’s a good idea so it will not be one they are drawn to immediately, but I could see it happening.

Legendaries need to remain top notch, and the world would implode if they made the stats better in any fashion. Ascended weapons don’t need to be equal to legendaries in functionality.

stop crying if you want to be able to change stats make a legendary……if you don’t want to put in the extra time/gold make the ascended weapons that fits your built.

Maileen.1065:

stop crying if you want to be able to change stats make a legendary……if you don’t want to put in the extra time/gold make the ascended weapons that fits your built.

I have two, Quip in my engineer and Bolt in my mesmer. How many do you have? So we can know how many are needed in order to express our opinion freely.

There’s one way I could see something like that being done, without kittening off any Legendary-user:

• Whereas Legendaries have the unlimited stat-swap, one could – in theory – allow for one “alternate” stat set to be added to a given Ascended item. For example, say I started with a Celestial set, I could then work towards – and unlock – the ability to swap that OOC with Rabid.

This way, the Legendary-as-Ultimate EQ concept is still preserved, but there’s a bit of leeway with the (oft-argued) idea that Ascended EQ limits build diversity. You would also have to be very sure of what secondary combo you’d unlock … cause I can’t see an ability like that, if extant, being more than a “one-off” for each Ascended item or weapon.

Advent.6193:

There’s one way I could see something like that being done, without kittening off any Legendary-user:

• Whereas Legendaries have the unlimited stat-swap, one could – in theory – allow for one “alternate” stat set to be added. For example, say I started with a Celestial set, I could then work towards – and unlock – the ability to swap that OOC with Rabid.

This way, the Legendary-as-Ultimate EQ concept is still preserved, but there’s a bit of leeway with the (oft-argued) idea that Ascended EQ limits build diversity. You would also have to be very sure of what secondary combo you’d unlock … cause I can’t see an ability like that, if extant, being more than a “one-off” for each Ascended item or weapon.

You cant see it huh?

Well til sep. 3. legendaries were what they were supposed to be – very expensive skin.

Cassius.4831:

Maileen.1065:

stop crying if you want to be able to change stats make a legendary……if you don’t want to put in the extra time/gold make the ascended weapons that fits your built.

I have two, Quip in my engineer and Bolt in my mesmer. How many do you have? So we can know how many are needed in order to express our opinion freely.

You can express your opinions, no one is stopping you, but it doesn’t mean you aren’t crying. Let me give you an example: its like the guy/girl who works at starbucks complaining how its unfair that the people he/she serve make $XX.XX and they only make $X.XX No one is stopping he/she from going to school etc. or even working harder to find a better paying job.

Oh and I have zero legendarys (working towards my first one).

Maileen.1065:

Cassius.4831:

Maileen.1065:

stop crying if you want to be able to change stats make a legendary……if you don’t want to put in the extra time/gold make the ascended weapons that fits your built.

I have two, Quip in my engineer and Bolt in my mesmer. How many do you have? So we can know how many are needed in order to express our opinion freely.

You can express your opinions, no one is stopping you, but it doesn’t mean you aren’t crying. Let me give you an example: its like the guy/girl who works at starbucks complaining how its unfair that the people he/she serve make $XX.XX and they only make $X.XX No one is stopping he/she from going to school etc. or even working harder to find a better paying job.

Oh and I have zero legendarys (working towards my first one).

Well, since I have 2 legendaries and you have none, I can humbly assume that I know more about the process of farming/making/using them than you and that you are crying and not me

MikaHR.1978:

You cant see it huh?

Well til sep. 3. legendaries were what they were supposed to be – very expensive skin.

An expensive skin that even pre-Sept 3, was said shall always count as a BiS item. I won’t argue against keeping them as such, tbh. Kinda grind for one of those, you bloody deserve it.
Which is why my theory was to keep the “unlimited” stat-swap on them, but allow for a binary stat-swap (either/or) on Ascended. That should allow some kindness on both sides of this argument, I would think.

Nuka Cola.8520:

Ision.3207:

Calm down guys, being able to switch stats on your Ascended gear will be available soon. Once the “Devine Ascended” gear is rolled out in late 2014, higher damage stats along with stat-switching will be included.

You forgot the 450g needed to craft one of these.

You do not even need over 50 G to craft an ascended wepon as for gear no idea.

no, those are still a lot easier to acquire than legendaries and that is their only boon atm.

Jski.6180:

Nuka Cola.8520:

Ision.3207:

Calm down guys, being able to switch stats on your Ascended gear will be available soon. Once the “Devine Ascended” gear is rolled out in late 2014, higher damage stats along with stat-switching will be included.

You forgot the 450g needed to craft one of these.

You do not even need over 50 G to craft an ascended wepon as for gear no idea.

that is if you own mats needed, if not that’s way over 200g just to get from 400-500 and then craft the weapon. Also, even if you do own the mats needed, you could always sell them and make that 200g instead.

The way I see it is that they made this really awesome feature, click-2-change-stats that improves quality of life. But rather than rolling it out to the masses then decided to limit it the 1% of the player base that has legendaries.

Nuka Cola.8520:

Jski.6180:

Nuka Cola.8520:

Ision.3207:

Calm down guys, being able to switch stats on your Ascended gear will be available soon. Once the “Devine Ascended” gear is rolled out in late 2014, higher damage stats along with stat-switching will be included.

You forgot the 450g needed to craft one of these.

You do not even need over 50 G to craft an ascended wepon as for gear no idea.

that is if you own mats needed, if not that’s way over 200g just to get from 400-500 and then craft the weapon. Also, even if you do own the mats needed, you could always sell them and make that 200g instead.

What mats are wroth that much to craft the wepon though? Wood is the worst of it and that not too hard to farm up from going after the trees that drop them (as in every one gets there own set of nodes to get things such as wood). Just where are you getting your numbers from?

Cassius.4831:

Maileen.1065:

Cassius.4831:

Maileen.1065:

stop crying if you want to be able to change stats make a legendary……if you don’t want to put in the extra time/gold make the ascended weapons that fits your built.

I have two, Quip in my engineer and Bolt in my mesmer. How many do you have? So we can know how many are needed in order to express our opinion freely.

You can express your opinions, no one is stopping you, but it doesn’t mean you aren’t crying. Let me give you an example: its like the guy/girl who works at starbucks complaining how its unfair that the people he/she serve make $XX.XX and they only make $X.XX No one is stopping he/she from going to school etc. or even working harder to find a better paying job.

Oh and I have zero legendarys (working towards my first one).

Well, since I have 2 legendaries and you have none, I can humbly assume that I know more about the process of farming/making/using them than you and that you are crying and not me

Well I have 4 (well 5 or 6 depending on how you want to count Eternity), whats your point…

aeneq.1760:

Cassius.4831:

Maileen.1065:

Cassius.4831:

Maileen.1065:

stop crying if you want to be able to change stats make a legendary……if you don’t want to put in the extra time/gold make the ascended weapons that fits your built.

I have two, Quip in my engineer and Bolt in my mesmer. How many do you have? So we can know how many are needed in order to express our opinion freely.

You can express your opinions, no one is stopping you, but it doesn’t mean you aren’t crying. Let me give you an example: its like the guy/girl who works at starbucks complaining how its unfair that the people he/she serve make $XX.XX and they only make $X.XX No one is stopping he/she from going to school etc. or even working harder to find a better paying job.

Oh and I have zero legendarys (working towards my first one).

Well, since I have 2 legendaries and you have none, I can humbly assume that I know more about the process of farming/making/using them than you and that you are crying and not me

Well I have 4 (well 5 or 6 depending on how you want to count Eternity), whats your point…

My point is that everyone should be able to express freely his opinion with respect , what’s yours?

Despite this, my thoughts about legendaries and ascended are expressed above and you are free to read them. Once you do that, feel free to ask any doubt you could have. I’ll be glad to answer any question.

Cassius.4831:

aeneq.1760:

Cassius.4831:

Maileen.1065:

Cassius.4831:

Maileen.1065:

stop crying if you want to be able to change stats make a legendary……if you don’t want to put in the extra time/gold make the ascended weapons that fits your built.

I have two, Quip in my engineer and Bolt in my mesmer. How many do you have? So we can know how many are needed in order to express our opinion freely.

You can express your opinions, no one is stopping you, but it doesn’t mean you aren’t crying. Let me give you an example: its like the guy/girl who works at starbucks complaining how its unfair that the people he/she serve make $XX.XX and they only make $X.XX No one is stopping he/she from going to school etc. or even working harder to find a better paying job.

Oh and I have zero legendarys (working towards my first one).

Well, since I have 2 legendaries and you have none, I can humbly assume that I know more about the process of farming/making/using them than you and that you are crying and not me

Well I have 4 (well 5 or 6 depending on how you want to count Eternity), whats your point…

My point is that everyone should be able to express freely his opinion with respect , what’s yours?

Despite this, my thoughts about legendaries and ascended are expressed above and you are free to read them. Once you do that, feel free to ask any doubt you could have. I’ll be glad to answer any question.

I applaud your statement, just dont see your logic… You asking how many legendaries are needed and then since you have two and the other has none you make assumptions and claim your opinion is worth more?

The original question just made your posts silly in my view and if I misunderstood your intent then I apologize but you need to spell it out… this is an online forum after all…

aeneq.1760:

Cassius.4831:

aeneq.1760:

Cassius.4831:

Maileen.1065:

Cassius.4831:

Maileen.1065:

stop crying if you want to be able to change stats make a legendary……if you don’t want to put in the extra time/gold make the ascended weapons that fits your built.

I have two, Quip in my engineer and Bolt in my mesmer. How many do you have? So we can know how many are needed in order to express our opinion freely.

You can express your opinions, no one is stopping you, but it doesn’t mean you aren’t crying. Let me give you an example: its like the guy/girl who works at starbucks complaining how its unfair that the people he/she serve make $XX.XX and they only make $X.XX No one is stopping he/she from going to school etc. or even working harder to find a better paying job.

Oh and I have zero legendarys (working towards my first one).

Well, since I have 2 legendaries and you have none, I can humbly assume that I know more about the process of farming/making/using them than you and that you are crying and not me

Well I have 4 (well 5 or 6 depending on how you want to count Eternity), whats your point…

My point is that everyone should be able to express freely his opinion with respect , what’s yours?

Despite this, my thoughts about legendaries and ascended are expressed above and you are free to read them. Once you do that, feel free to ask any doubt you could have. I’ll be glad to answer any question.

I applaud your statement, just dont see your logic… You asking how many legendaries are needed and then since you have two and the other has none you make assumptions and claim your opinion is worth more?

The original question just made your posts silly in my view and if I misunderstood your intent then I apologize but you need to spell it out… this is an online forum after all…

Ok, I’ll try to explain better mi position: Legendary weapons were intended as fashion items, only for visual exhibition. Until Sept 3rd they worked in this way and I think it was fine for everybody: some of us gathered materials to do them and none of us complained about this (You have crafted 5 legendaries, so I can assume you crafted some of them before and you agreed the way they were working, can I? )

Now, game rules has changed and Legendary weapons are a new top tier: not only ascended, they are even better because you can change their stats. Of course I like this change, because gives us – legendary weapon users – more diversity, but… why not the same with ascended weapons? They are expensive too (not as a legendary, but you must farm several hours yo get one with fixed stats).

And, what we get when we suggest that ascended should be as good as legendaries? Well, we get posts from some users telling us that we are whiniers and that we should work for legendaries instead of crying in the forum. This is pretty annoying, but it becomes ironic when you have them and this is told you by someone who hasn’t forged one yet.

So, in other words: everyone should be free to express his opinion but with respect. If anyone don’t do it in this way, he is exposed to be treated as he does.

Titan.3472:

defrule.7236:

The way I see it is that they made this really awesome feature, click-2-change-stats that improves quality of life. But rather than rolling it out to the masses then decided to limit it the 1% of the player base that has legendaries.

SERIOUSLY / People you need to think a little from every qualities tiers LEGENDARY was the only one that had only one stat available (soldier) that pushed everyone to transmute in order to get the stats they wanted. Anet fixed this issue now Legendary is a single skin per weapon set (GS has 3) with a choice in the stats. Every other sets has no issue you craft the combo stat you need.
IT WAS A FIX to the issue that legendaries owners were complaining for ages. Stop to be idiots and craft the combo stats ascended you need and if you want switch feature craft legendary, period.

And the problem you mention is hardly exclusive to legendaries. Skins like Mjolnir and Volcanus come in a useless stat when made in the mystic forge and have to be transmutated into another stat.

And the core issue is this, some players don’t just use one stat and end up having to stock multiple weapon and armour sets. But I’m guessing you don’t have that problem because you bring the same build to PvE as you do in WvW and get carried.

I mean what next? Sigil switching exclusive to legendaries?

Titan.3472:

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Stop to be idiots and craft the combo stats ascended you need and if you want switch feature craft legendary, period.
[…]
All crafting system would be also BROKEN.

Two things:

1.- Crafting system was broken before Sept 3rd (with items being cheaper purchased instead of crafted) and after (with insane grind needed in order to develop it)

2.- I’ve reported you because I’m tired of people insulting in the forums

Cassius.4831:

Titan.3472:

[…]
Stop to be idiots and craft the combo stats ascended you need and if you want switch feature craft legendary, period.
[…]
All crafting system would be also BROKEN.

Two things:

1.- Crafting system was broken before Sept 3rd (with items being cheaper purchased instead of crafted) and after (with insane grind needed in order to develop it)

2.- I’ve reported you because I’m tired of people insulting in the forums

Truth hurts XD

Legendary here totaly disagree with this idea, just think for a second the dificult to have a legendary compared with a crafted ascended weapon and you ask to be the same for a cheap price and fast to get. i will stop dedicating time to get the hardest things if they come up to make it easier for people who are lazy. Makes no sense to get a legendary if we could get an ascended to do same things ….

Wake up and smell the cofee :P

-.- what happened to the notion that legendaries was pure cosmetics and archievement ?!
legendaries was NEVER SUPPOSE TO BE BETTER IN ANY!!! WAY THEN OTHER WEAPONS!!.
the devs made this as clear as it can be from the very start. and now this bs…
if they are gonna make a difference just take the kitten out of their kitten and give legends better stats. if they are going for difference then the notion of “you dont need to ptw” is out the window and they might as well give the stats which a legendary weapon deserves

when that is said which moron came up with the idea that the ascendant weapons is crafted not gain by laural, guild commendation etc like EVERY OTHER ascendant item?…

these facts are just so moronic the subject is null

Cassius.4831:

aeneq.1760:

Cassius.4831:

aeneq.1760:

Cassius.4831:

Maileen.1065:

Cassius.4831:

Maileen.1065:

stop crying if you want to be able to change stats make a legendary……if you don’t want to put in the extra time/gold make the ascended weapons that fits your built.

I have two, Quip in my engineer and Bolt in my mesmer. How many do you have? So we can know how many are needed in order to express our opinion freely.

You can express your opinions, no one is stopping you, but it doesn’t mean you aren’t crying. Let me give you an example: its like the guy/girl who works at starbucks complaining how its unfair that the people he/she serve make $XX.XX and they only make $X.XX No one is stopping he/she from going to school etc. or even working harder to find a better paying job.

Oh and I have zero legendarys (working towards my first one).

Well, since I have 2 legendaries and you have none, I can humbly assume that I know more about the process of farming/making/using them than you and that you are crying and not me

Well I have 4 (well 5 or 6 depending on how you want to count Eternity), whats your point…

My point is that everyone should be able to express freely his opinion with respect , what’s yours?

Despite this, my thoughts about legendaries and ascended are expressed above and you are free to read them. Once you do that, feel free to ask any doubt you could have. I’ll be glad to answer any question.

I applaud your statement, just dont see your logic… You asking how many legendaries are needed and then since you have two and the other has none you make assumptions and claim your opinion is worth more?

The original question just made your posts silly in my view and if I misunderstood your intent then I apologize but you need to spell it out… this is an online forum after all…

Ok, I’ll try to explain better mi position: Legendary weapons were intended as fashion items, only for visual exhibition. Until Sept 3rd they worked in this way and I think it was fine for everybody: some of us gathered materials to do them and none of us complained about this (You have crafted 5 legendaries, so I can assume you crafted some of them before and you agreed the way they were working, can I? )

Now, game rules has changed and Legendary weapons are a new top tier: not only ascended, they are even better because you can change their stats. Of course I like this change, because gives us – legendary weapon users – more diversity, but… why not the same with ascended weapons? They are expensive too (not as a legendary, but you must farm several hours yo get one with fixed stats).

And, what we get when we suggest that ascended should be as good as legendaries? Well, we get posts from some users telling us that we are whiniers and that we should work for legendaries instead of crying in the forum. This is pretty annoying, but it becomes ironic when you have them and this is told you by someone who hasn’t forged one yet.

So, in other words: everyone should be free to express his opinion but with respect. If anyone don’t do it in this way, he is exposed to be treated as he does.

Ok gotcha, well to be frank I just crafted the legendaries because I was bored and thought I should get some atleast (being a warrior a GS was the first step) then I really liked the effects on the Jug.

But that aside I see your point however I dont mind the Legendaries being slightly more utilitarian, they still are equal in performance compared to the ascended but has that little extra incentive to them without being totally over the top.

That said I dont really mind either or but the negative side effect is that ascended crafting will eventually die out (earlier than later) if you change this behavior and thus reduce the temples etc to the earlier state. This side effect also blocks new players from getting the mats they need when they want to craft ascended…

This is actually a big issue with this way to ensure replayability of the temples, sure they are active now but that will die in time and then anyone new is basically deadlocked from crafting an ascended. Wouldnt be surprised if they added new sources for these resources at some point.