Guild Wars 2

Like, why not? I don’t think I can convince my friend to come back with SAB, but definitely can with FotM.

Any player that up and leaves because of one thing in the game probably isn’t that dedicated.

There are people that do Jade Maw at 62
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gPuwtuAWV4

there are even people that do Level 80 fractals ( all be it odds I assume )

Kaimick.5109:

Any player that up and leaves because of one thing in the game probably isn’t that dedicated.

There are people that do Jade Maw at 62
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gPuwtuAWV4

there are even people that do Level 80 fractals ( all be it odds I assume )

Please do research before you comment. The video is from last December well before the related patch, it only s hows phase 3, the actual problem is getting threw the phase transition agony, which wasn’t a problem before that patch anyway. And for the record, Maw was never considered as a hard part in any level.

We are level 56 right before the patch and having very few issues progressing, we actually consider ourselves quite dedicated, PvE wise, we were speed running every dungeon, ever paths, we got dungeon master within first 2 months of launch.

You probably have a different definition regarding dedication, and we aren’t the farming for skin type of dedication. My friends left the game because there is nothing challenging left in PvE for us to do together, hence the hiatus.

Not sure what your point is, that we can find someone higher level than us and do odd levels to progress? If so then I would suggest maybe just get around that and let us get past maw again, which is the point of the suggestion in the first place.

i have a friend who on 80 ^^

Taobella.6597:

i have a friend who on 80 ^^

that’s all good and great, now show me an even 50+ fractal he did since end of Jan

Jzl.8715:

Taobella.6597:

i have a friend who on 80 ^^

that’s all good and great, now show me an even 50+ fractal he did since end of Jan

Ummm I just linked a video showing you 62

Kaimick.5109:

Jzl.8715:

Taobella.6597:

i have a friend who on 80 ^^

that’s all good and great, now show me an even 50+ fractal he did since end of Jan

Ummm I just linked a video showing you 62

Unfortunately he’s right, that video was before they patched certain ways to get around Maws agony, since the fix you can no longer rez through agony levels that would normally wipe the team thus limiting us to 40-49 with current agony resistance available.

OH well then so be it, I have no issue with it. I am sure that they will increase the level cap soon enough. Till then, I will just keep doing odds and not worrying about the jade maw, I know plenty of people that are at 80 because of this.

I guess its technically possible to do that with the people who managed to skip ahead before the patch if you know them, if you don’t you can’t cheat like that

Though without doing jade maw you don’t really get the big rewards for doing the higher tiers.

though chances are the next AR item will come from sPvP or something silly like that

Dasorine.1964:

though chances are the next AR item will come from sPvP or something silly like that

The thing is someone recently on the Dungeons forum posted that 45ar won’t get you through level 50, which means it’s still hard gated and not working in accord with agony resistance prior to level 50, in theory according to http://dulfy.net/2013/01/07/gw2-fractal-of-the-mists-fotm-guide/#1, 45ar should be enough for level 50.

the agony doesn’t scale in the way that post uses it though. For example that site states for 40-49 fractals you’d need only 35 AR while if you did run 40-49 with that amount of AR you’d get hit for 30% of your health per agony tick (thus being defeated at maw) for 40-49 your really looking at 40 (24% hp a tick) as the bare minimum to really survive (even that would end up requiring a fair bit of healing).

Your meant to be locked to certain levels with certain amount of agony resistance (as stated by Anet) currently the max you can get is 45 which is enough for 40-49 but wont be enough for higher until we get a bit more (considering 45 in 40-49 range is still 18% of your health per tick which is still a very dangerous amount of damage during maw if your unlucky but not instant wipe)

Ok fair enough I see your point, but technically you’re main topic cited your friends therefore it was technically on topic.

As far as how you believe you should progress in accordance to your AR ratting is personal opinion. Although Arena Net has set up parameters for the AR system that deem you you take x amount of damage for x amount of ar at x level. Does it suck that you can’t go past 50 at this point yes, and I congratulate your on your level. But the rules of how AR works are set in stone and from what I can see are pretty fair.

I think like what kaimick said, they will release 50+ soon enough, along with more agony resist. From what I have done in research ( not the expert here ) but you can go beyond 50, just do all the odds and be really good at dodging the agony attacks from bosses. As far as jade maw goes till they come out with more AR 50+ jade maw just isn’t in the cards.

45 AR is not meant to be enough for past 40-49 though, that one sites rule of thumb only works for the first 3 tiers of agony (where it raises by 18% damage a tier) tier 3 to tier 4 (30-39 to 40-49) raises by 24% which means you need more AR than that sites rule states and to the next tier I wouldn’t be surprised if you needed even more.

Basically level 50-59 comes when they put in the next ascended item/upgrades for current ascended items. When this comes I don’t know but it would be nice if it was sooner rather than later.

Oh man, you know what would be so hot…..is if you guys just started making out right now!

Anyway, calm down Jzl, you’re not talking to devs….you’re arguing with other players. And their opinion shouldn’t even hold any weight with you about your “friends”.

And my opinion about the matter isn’t that anet should create a system where the current AR will allow you to progress past Frac 50; it’s that anet should have some content that allows you other ways to acquire ascended gear (which they have).

The problem with your arguement is that (in your opinion) content should be accessible at a speedy rate for the “dedicated” players, but you have to consider the amount of people that quit the game because they can’t “keep up” because they don’t have the time to dedicate to grinding the same dungeon over and over and over and over and over (you get the point). You see, there are people who are at each end of the spectrum and anet cannot cater to one side or the other, because they will lose the rest.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ANET, I APPLAUD YOU! (Now can I get 100g in the mail for my support?)

@ Corey, I don’t really get your point of people quitting because they can’t keep up. People do quit because there aren’t anymore meaningful things to do, are you saying keeping up is reaching that point? Besides, this goes back to the age old debate regarding GW2 that was there right from the genesis, what is there to keep up with? It’s not like reaching exotic is hard to do, it’s not everyone’s every char is decked out in ascended accessories, it’s not like every group is demanding them in every dungeons and WvW teams. Do you even hear people talking about the actual stats on ascended all that much anymore?

If you think that people in 50+ are because they are still caring about loot, and they are grinding in 50+ for some sort of peculiar reason, then you have a misunderstanding with people on what you define as the speedy end of the spectrum. The move of capping at 50 has nearly none existent effect on people who don’t care about high level fractals. Anything around 20 or even the dailies now are capable of getting people their ascended items that are oh so precious to them. The only thing capping at 50 does is cutting the sole source of challenge for the most dedicated people who are simply looking for a challenge.

Jzl.8715:

@ Corey, I don’t really get your point of people quitting because they can’t keep up. People do quit because there aren’t anymore meaningful things to do, are you saying keeping up is reaching that point? Besides, this goes back to the age old debate regarding GW2 that was there right from the genesis, what is there to keep up with? It’s not like reaching exotic is hard to do, it’s not everyone’s every char is decked out in ascended accessories, it’s not like every group is demanding them in every dungeons and WvW teams. Do you even hear people talking about the actual stats on ascended all that much anymore?

If you think that people in 50+ are because they are still caring about loot, and they are grinding in 50+ for some sort of peculiar reason, then you have a misunderstanding with people on what you define as the speedy end of the spectrum. The move of capping at 50 has nearly none existent effect on people who don’t care about high level fractals. Anything around 20 or even the dailies now are capable of getting people their ascended items that are oh so precious to them. The only thing capping at 50 does is cutting the sole source of challenge for the most dedicated people who are simply looking for a challenge.

Actually yes I have seen plenty of people demanding ascended gear for dungeons or no invite, I have seen plenty of players requiring gear pings. I have even seen some guilds that require you to be in full exotics and full ascended ( with infusion ) to participate with the in WvW. Not saying it happens with every player and guild but it does happen.

There are people just like your friends that have quit in due part to not being able to catch up to higher level fractals due to time restraints. Does it happen a lot, not really sure but if it has happened once I am sure it has happen a few times. Right now the fractals system is balanced to allow time restraint players to attempt to come close to the ones that achieved level 50 2 months ago. Like others have said they will add more when the time is right, either you accept that or you don’t. I am sure it will be soon though.