Guild Wars 2

Please pubblic the formula of damage calculation, with your constants and parametres it woul be really usefull.

They intentionally don’t release all of the information to calculate damage, armor, etc to prevent the game from playing like a math test.

Do your research, it is around, find it on the wiki.
I know something like Power simple is every extra unit of power is and extra unit of damage, therefor if you are striking with a certain skill at 1000 with 800 power then getting 1000 power will let you strike 1200..
Simple example..dont be kitteh slacking, do research

I prefer to not go WoW nerd on MMOs anymore. Once you start calculating every little thing it’s no longer an enjoyable game. You turn elitist, make inspection related suggestions, and force people to play particular ways because the math shows it will provide the greatest amount of X. X being damage or w/e your looking for from that class.

I’m sure the formula is out there but I’d suggest just taking note from trial and error tests with equipment and traits.

Also know that they do hold back a lot I assume to prevent people from creating an Add on like Recount which ruins the enjoyment of the game.

Kaimick.5109:

Also know that they do hold back a lot I assume to prevent people from creating an Add on like Recount which ruins the enjoyment of the game.

Exactly! This game was designed for enjoyment, not e-sports.

Raine Akrune.8416:

I prefer to not go WoW nerd on MMOs anymore. Once you start calculating every little thing it’s no longer an enjoyable game. You turn elitist, make inspection related suggestions, and force people to play particular ways because the math shows it will provide the greatest amount of X. X being damage or w/e your looking for from that class.

I’m sure the formula is out there but I’d suggest just taking note from trial and error tests with equipment and traits.

I like how in 3 different threads we have agreed and said pretty much the same thing +1

<3 you to Kaimick! +1 for Tuesday afternoon buddies!

lol you too :P
well technically GW2 SPvP system is somewhat e-sport..not arguing with you
The fun part is still figuring out your own playing method and what suits your.
This is way better than also going to look for builds, which i for one have not done as i do not believe i will choose to play the most simple or easiest, damage/tank build.
I want to take them kitten slacking builds and make then oh kittenbutton smashing!
its fun

the exactly damage formula will get out someday.
If i have to do test and write in on wiki i will do it.
If you don’t want to do math just do not look that formula but i love do this tipe of things and i prefer to be sure on wich combination of stat is better

So what your saying is you want to get away form the original Idea that Arena Net had in “Play how you want” and start making cookie cutter specs so GW2 can be like wow and have 792 possible combination of builds but only 3 are ever used?

Personally I play a Guardian Mitigation Control build and most people look at my build and say that will never work, yet for me it works just fine. Lets not make this into another wow clone and have

Well if you don’t have X rune with X trait points with X weapon you can’t come along.

Psych.6527:

lol you too :P
well technically GW2 SPvP system is somewhat e-sport..not arguing with you
The fun part is still figuring out your own playing method and what suits your.
This is way better than also going to look for builds, which i for one have not done as i do not believe i will choose to play the most simple or easiest, damage/tank build.
I want to take them kitten slacking builds and make then oh kittenbutton smashing!
its fun

I wish it was e-sport. GW2, at least on my server, could do with some more activity especially on the PvP front. It’s sad to see only 60 something players in the ranked leaderboards for top 100 pvpers.

Yeah Arena Net has stated they are gong for the E-sport out look when it comes to PvP. this is also why they are keeping PvP separate form PvE.

True story Goggle your a god

to all the people trying to say they didn’t realease it so we wouldn’t go all math nerd? Well, people do that anyway, it just gets a bit trickier to determine. We know the damage scaling on certain stats, and we can figure out the rest.. some things are hidden.. But I prefer real numbers. Most of the traits are labled like “improves all herps” And most of the time, I don’t even know what the kitten akittenis, nor does it say how it improves it.. so I cannot make an informed decision whether improvingkittenis particularly useful or not.

Nesetalis.5293:

to all the people trying to say they didn’t realease it so we wouldn’t go all math nerd? Well, people do that anyway, it just gets a bit trickier to determine. We know the damage scaling on certain stats, and we can figure out the rest.. some things are hidden.. But I prefer real numbers. Most of the traits are labled like “improves all herps” And most of the time, I don’t even know what the kitten akittenis, nor does it say how it improves it.. so I cannot make an informed decision whether improvingkittenis particularly useful or not.

I am not sure as I do not know what the folks at Arena Net are thinking, but I believe that is the point. We can essentially sit down and figure out 85% of the statistical average of attack power and crit ect ect. but it is still in the end undefined or 0, with out the full equation there is no telling how far you are off or how close you are.

That is like me telling you

A + 7 * B = N – G / T
then asking you for the answer
Which is 0 BTW

I think they do this so people do not start saying well you need to be X, with X weapon, with X sigil, and X stats, with X Runes. If this is what they are trying to achieve I am glad. Number crunching/ Recount/ Gear score ruined wow and other MMO’s

munchkins are a part of life, they will exist.. it will just take longer for them to figure out the math.
I’m not a big munchkin but I do like to maximize my character.. though rarely do I min max. But this tends to kitten me, there are people min maxing, and doing 18,000 damage crits, where I rarely see 10k.
Not showing the numbers just means they keep doing 18k damage, ankittenep doing 10k unless I want to sit down and start working out the numbers for myself. Essentially the haves and the have nots.

who is doing a 18k crit in one hit ?

not that I am calling you a lair but I want to see a screen shot of that cause I call BS. I can do 18k in a spike combo on my warrior or mesmer or thieve sometimes more but never in one hit.

^this….. SO this!

Yeah, if I’m spiked through the roof with boons and the target is bust with stacks on him (or an extremely light target) then, yes. Maybe they don’t know the damage count in cumulative for multi hit skills?

The wiki has forumla but….

Ill work out the entire formula and give an extreme high crit example tomorrow so you can see how the whole thing works out. Huuuge edit then

the 18k crit in a single hit, generally from greatsword f1 or gun f1 on warrior.
Personally, like I said, I never hit more than around 10k (though I just respecced, so we shall see :p)

no no alone with no other factors I have never seen a 18k crit with a GS or Rifle. you want to add in out side factors sure I have seen 22k crits lol

Kaimick.5109:

no no alone with no other factors I have never seen a 18k crit with a GS or Rifle. you want to add in out side factors sure I have seen 22k crits lol

I hit a rabbit for 22.7k the other night. Do I win the kitten cookie?

yes yes you do Raine lol I hit a bug for 95k with my axes so I will give my self one to.

I’ll bake a fresh batch for everyone that has the 300k in one hit Master of Overkill achievement Don’t know when or how I got mine.

I think I got that lol with a trebutch on a rabbit in WvWvW lol alhtough I am not sure so I could be wrong

The highest Ive ever done is about 17k on the light training golem with killshot and eviscarate, fully traited equiped for crit damage with 13 stacks of might and 10% crit damage bonus from banner at the time. 14k in a pvp match against an engi.

Ill get that formula up in the next hour or two.