Guild Wars 2

Honestly , even without legendaries … it is a very positive way of seeing things to believe someone will then redirect their money to others.

Personally , i would simple keep getting more and more ,even if i never had any use to it.

A player should earn what they want/got , no point in giving money to others.

Time … well i agree with this one , without the eternal farms , i think more people would help their guildies for sure, but it is impossible to earn gold without spending time.

Fine, I and everyone in my guild help each other and in a month from now we all have 1 of each class , fully equiped in exotics, lvl 80 chars…now what?
Besides, not everyone is going for a legendary, I for once I’m not, for the moment at least. And I know a few other people like me too.

Btw, my knowledge in lore of this game is very limited, but I’m almost sure the name “guild wars” comes from a certain war called like that, that happened like 100 years before the date in game we are currently playing. And not from actual player guilds at war…
Also, somebody who disagrees with you isn’t insulting you, the same way you have your opinion about something, others have it too and this may or may not be the same. Just because someone thinks differently doesn’t mean he has something against you as a person…
And as a last thing, if you want to post something directed exclusively at devs and don’t wish anybody else to have an opinion or even read it, a public forum might not be the best place to put it…

Ron.4920:

So this game is called Guild wars 2. It is about guilds, its in the name. Legendary weapons work counter productively towards a guild, the way that I see it. If you see it a different way, I’m sorry but I don’t care this post is not for you it is for the developers to read. Its a suggestion for the game, not a chance for you to insult someone else’s ideas or thoughts.

And no. The game is called Guild Wars 2 because it’s the sequel to Guild Wars which was called Guild Wars because of a STORY aspect, not a gameplay aspect. Guilds have very little worth in this game compared to other games except when it comes to legendary weapons as the first slew of players who got them only got them because their guild helped them get them which was the biggest reason to be in a guild at start.

1) Game is named after The Guild Wars (a massive war between Kryta, Ascalon and Orr). You know The Battle of Khylo map? Well, that was a battle in the lore as well.

2) While the overall theme of the game might be about the Dragons, that’s not always the reason people play. Some log is specifically for the WvW and SPvP, and don’t touch PvE.

Legendary weapons aren’t the only expensive weapons in game. Look at Wintersbite, Foefire’s Essence and Infinite Light. Saying that Legendary weapons divide the community is like saying named exotics do. At the end of the day, they’re goals for people to aim at.

And while, yes, you will get some guilds that won’t work together, you’ll also get guilds that help each other achieve their desired goal.

Ron.4920:

People just can’t wait to judge and assume someone is wrong, most of the time about nothing. I don’t think even one of you understand what I am getting it, I truly think that you do though. Please don’t write anymore responses you are just muddying up my idea with pity little arguments.

If someone would like to send me a link, or tell me how to send my suggestions to the developers directly please do, I was under the assumption this was the best place for a suggestion about the game considering it is the suggestion forum. I would greatly prefer it if my ideas could just be sent to the devs, rather than checking back on them to see someone saying you’re wrong about this, you’re wrong about that, blah blah blah.

Try reading my sentence about guild wars 2 again, I didn’t say it was named that because it is only about guilds did I? I said its in the name, meaning it is part of the game, not what you guys are implying. I think you guys focus to much on your pity arguments to understand people.

1) There’s no such system of sending suggestions straight to the devs. That IS what this forum is for, until such a time they figure a way. Believe it or not, you aren’t the only person who thinks their idea is important.

2) And while you’re saying that ‘guilds is in the name, therefore it’s about guilds’, expect responses from people telling you that the title has nothing to do with guild’s in game. These are not pity arguments. These are merely us telling you WHY the game is named as such.

3) For all that writing, I didn’t see a single suggestion laid out plain and simple for the devs. You might want to consider re-wording your suggestion to ‘Make Legendary Weapons more of a Guild Task’, actually spelling out your suggestion clearly, and make it easier to read (paragraphs, for example). If you want the devs to read your suggestion, at least make it plain as day for them, since yours isn’t the only suggestion they’d read.

Ron.4920:

People just can’t wait to judge and assume someone is wrong, most of the time about nothing. I don’t think even one of you understand what I am getting it, I truly think that you do though. Please don’t write anymore responses you are just muddying up my idea with petty little arguments.

Lashes out at people for assuming he is wrong. Immediately assumes they are wrong. Good job. You want to know what is wrong? Telling people that their ideas don’t matter and shouldn’t be posted at all. That Arenanet should only listen to you and not also other people. It’s extremely arrogant.

I dont understand your point. You literally just pointed out how players EARN their money that is it worth that much to clothe 30 whatever people. They can spend their money however they want, i dont understand what u are trying to say.

Ron.4920:

This is why I hate forums, you just try to post your idea, but no someone always has to try to start a fight over nothing. This is the exact reason I asked no one to post at all. I said it very rudely so maybe you might just take a hint, but I guess not. Please stop responding to this post.

You really should re-write your suggestion, you know.

It’s sort of confusing to read. Get straight to the point, and people can critique that as opposed to anything else.

I think, to my own opinion, what ron is implying is the way people put the amount of effort/time/money into attaining a legendary is based on a personal achievement and does not in anyway contribute to the guild members. Therefore upsets the balance of ‘equal share’.

More of a ‘Every man for themselves’ concept I guess.

You see, not everyone is as caring and as giving to everybody else. That’s the main issue with people these days. So what else can they do? They grind for it themselves.

I think Legendary Weapons are fine for those players that play the game just a bit too much to show how much they’ve dedicated their time to the game.

He expects nobody to post here when he makes a PUBLIC THREAD… society. If you only want a certain person/people to see this then send a private message. If you want arenanet to see this send a ticket. Dont make a public thread then complain that ppl are responding.

Well Ron I would be very pissed if I worked this hard for a legendary, then some whiners suddenly made devs cave in and everyone got one.

Just because you do not have one doesn’t make it a great idea, and I’m sorry that you think you can outfit level 30s with gear and all that nonsense you posted…

Truth of the mater is, levels 30s can outfit themselves… so when you hit level 80 and accomplished everything financially you probably will have the fund to make a legendary…

Legendary weapons, brace yourself sweetheart, do not have stats better than your normal 80 weapon… it just makes you look boss.

Maybe looking boss is a motivation for some, maybe crying about helping 30s and not having money is motivation for others.

I am not convinced, and you only seek to demean others work for their legendary weapons for the simple truth that it isn’t about that tossing money in guilds nonsense… it’s as you stated before, you just do not have one.

Perhaps it would be better not to make Legendaries easy to get but maybe impliment something that guilds would have to work together for? I’m sure they’ll at some point add guild halls and that type of thing so maybe when they do make it cost influence to upgrade and move the guild hall so it would take 50+ people farming all the time to achieve these things in a small time frame. That way once all the people who just need that legendary get it they can jump in a guild and work on the next big upgrade or whatever. This aslo might make people have more of a sense of caring about the guild and it’s members because they would all have worked so hard together to achieve this.

I don’t even … I have a legendary and I worked hard for it, does this mean I don’t help the guild aspect? No.

In before a Mod locks

The basis for all mmorpgs I’ve played thus far has always been about joining a guild/clan/faction/corp. Everyone works together toward a similar goal. However, the guild system in this game, and the very game itself makes joining a guild less needed. There is no real incentive to really have a guild outside a shared bank and a few buffs no guild events, no guild base (for now), no guild ranking (i think) at the moment, they need to work on ways to give people a vested interest in investing in a guild. The weapons are not really hurting this game, it’s the lack of things to do at level 80, and lack for incentive for level 80 character to go back to low level zones. these are problems that A-Net will no doubt fix over time.

As for the poster in this thread, as it has been stated. This is a public forum where anyone can post their ideas. In another thread a mod clearly stated that “In a suggestion you either agree or not, and you can add feedback.”

As far as the naming argument goes, you have “So this game is called Guild wars 2. It is about guilds, its in the name.” Don’t blame posters because you worded your statement in such a way where it can be interpreted in more than one way. I’m almost 100% certain any devs that read that thought the same thing as everyone else in this thread. when posting a suggestion, the OP must be very clear. You stated yourself that you don’t think anyone who posted here understands what you are getting at……….shouldn’t that be something of a concern for you? after all, what if the devs read this and they have the same thing in mind as the ones who replied here?

Your conduct in this thread has effectively soaked it in gas and is now highly Prune to a flame war. While you were not rude, you made posts that made you come off as arrogant when no one was really being disrespectful to you as such. And then you contradict yourself a couple times. Coming into a suggestion forum with a closed mind almost always end badly. I’m honestly not trying to be a asshere, I’m just pointing this out so you can know better for next time.

Ron.4920:

To the person who is going to reply “lol someone is butt hurt because they don’t have a legendary” stop reading now and go away.

To the person who is going to reply " I love my legendary it is the best part of the game for me" I believe you, and I’m not arguing with you.

So most of the level 80 players are in the same zones day after day, grinding away towards a legendary weapon, so they can have those cool effects when they attack. Then when someone asks where are the rainbows coming from? He or she can reply back, I’m shooting the rainbows its me! Then they can tell everyone the story of how they got their legendary. So what is actually happening as a direct result of the legendary weapons is a split between level 80 players, and level 1-79 players. The whole theme of the game is to build a guild then go stop the dragons. What happens is the level 80 players have this goal to work towards, it takes up such a great deal of time and funds. That time and those funds could have been spent towards a guild. I know it is people’s time and gold to do what they want with. But just consider the cost of one of these weapons to make, around 300 gold right now. Consider how many skills points you need to get the weapon, and how much time that takes. Now consider how many other people could have benefited from all that gold, and just some of your time. It costs a player somewhere around 10 gold for all your level 1-80 gear if you do some crafting. The cost of one legendary weapon maybe enough to outfit 30 players from level 1-80. What do you think people do after they get their first legendary? I bet you anything a great deal of them start to work on their second legendary, or they help their friends who helped them, get their legendary. I am not suggesting that legendary items be removed as a solution. I am only asking the developers not the players reading this post to consider what a player who has logged in over 600 hours on your game is seeing.

So this game is called Guild wars 2. It is about guilds, its in the name. Legendary weapons work counter productively towards a guild, the way that I see it. If you see it a different way, I’m sorry but I don’t care this post is not for you it is for the developers to read. Its a suggestion for the game, not a chance for you to insult someone else’s ideas or thoughts.

I’m trying to read your post mate, but this is confusing. Please try to limit yourself. Most people don’t bother reading that much. It’s also hard to understand because it’s like you have multiple complaints and just talk about many things at once.

I love legendaries (though I will never get one). Its more an issue of how people aquire them. If you only could get legendaries by spending all of your time in zones everywhere else. to fill up the game world.. to keep all events everywhere occupied. That would help tremendously.

But alas, the rewards scaling for gold, loot and karma is not good enough.

Ron.4920:

Don’t tell me I need to change the way I write, and don’t tell me I need to change anything about myself, you don’t know me even slightly. It doesn’t seem to matter what you try to post, people are just narcissistic animals waiting to team up and prey on someone.

Yamcha gets the point I am trying to show to the devs.

If there was a way I could write a suggestion, and send it to the devs directly I would. I hate these forums, and I hate all the people who sit around all day and bash people’s ideas. No one deserves this kind of abuse, or trolling just because they wanted to post their ideas in the only place a dev can see them. Please just create your own thread that contains your own ideas, and stop posting on this one it is not meant for you.

For people giving me personal advice, I don’t need to be parented please go play with your kids, they probably miss you.

No offense, but you sound like someone who can’t take critisism.

I merely suggested you streamline your suggestion so that the devs could get straight to the point. You aren’t, by far, the only person who has a suggestion.

It’s exactly like writing a CV. You need to keep it to the point, otherwise they won’t bother.

I got your point. But I sat down and read it all. There’s no guarantee that the devs will if it’s a massive wall of text.

It’s just simple advice with the aim of you getting your suggestion read. Take it as you will.

Yes because acting so immature totally puts you in the right. As does the inability to take even the slightest bit of criticism. It’s amusing when someone becomes the very thing they hate oh so much. NO ONE was really insulting to you. like you everyone gave their opinions on what you wrote, which by the way is written in such a way that it’s hard to understand exactly what YOU want. I honestly was trying to be civil but really, you’re just utter childish plain and simple. Have a nice day sir. Just as i said, you effective set yourself up to be burned at the stake in this thread.

“Legendary” is just a skin difference.
It’s no must have to stay competitive.
Did you ever want to buy Ferrari?
Can you afford it?
A Fiat will bring you to your working place at the same speed (in town).

I’m fine with expensive skin.
What you really should complain about is Ascended Gear, since it gives power instead of just a new look.

Ron.4920:

It is just sad that this is what some of you do with your lives. Sit here day after day, and wait around to have an argument with someone about a video game. Then you try to escalate things to a point where you can get emotionally involved, so you can feel something. So much time has to go into your posts, and what are they really? Petty arguments, that do little more than bash an idea, and boost your own egos.

Fair enough. But there’s a difference between bashing a post, and critiquing it to help you develop your idea. Maybe someone sees an angle you haven’t.

I don’t think Legendary weapons should be made guild tasks.

1) Not everyone is in a guild, and the game shouldn’t force it so.

2) If the guild can help each other without the game forcing it, this will make for a stronger guild. Ultimately, the game should only hold your hand so far. Creating a strong community / guild is up to the players mostly.

3) Legendary weapons are more of a personal goal. If you want a guild goal within game, suggest something else. Maybe a title, guild ranking system, perks that need to be researched through guild tasks, guild achievements ect.

Correct me if I’ve missed the point, but that just goes to show that you need to make your suggestion clearer.